: P0441 Whats this caused by?



ShadowLvr400
05-31-04, 10:17 PM
P0441 - Evaporative Emission Control System Incorrect Purge Flow

What's broken now? Some small valve, should I run some high grade gas (104 or so?), run the car hard, etc?


And a bit of humor.

What do you call a man who smiles when he walks by a gas station?






Amish.

zonie77
05-31-04, 10:37 PM
Higrade gas won't fix anything. If the cap is on tight then there may be a vacuum hose in the purge system loose but more likely a valve may be bad. I don't have the manuals here so I can't give you any specifics. I just am in the typing mood. :bonkers:

JimD
05-31-04, 11:04 PM
The smile is irrelevant; he is a pedestrian.

Logandiagnostic
06-01-04, 08:00 PM
DTC P0441 Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System No Flow During Purge




Circuit Description
This diagnostic test is used to determine if the Evaporative Emission (EVAP) purge control solenoid is open when the PCM is commanding it open (energized). The PCM does this by monitoring the Evaporative Emission (EVAP) purge vacuum switch which is a normally closed switch mounted in the vacuum line between the EVAP canister and the EVAP purge solenoid. The switch opens when vacuum from the engine draws the evaporative emissions from the EVAP canister through the EVAP purge solenoid and into the throttle body. The PCM monitors the state of the EVAP purge vacuum switch to determine if the EVAP purge solenoid is open and passing vacuum. The PCM accomplishes this by monitoring the amount of time the EVAP purge vacuum switch is continuously open or closed during purge. When the test conditions are met the PCM starts a timer, which will be reset when the switch transitions open to closed or vice versa. If the switch remains closed for 9 seconds continuously, DTC P0441 is set. If the switch remains open for 2 seconds continuously, the test is passed.

Conditions for Setting the DTC
Test Conditions
DTCs P0101, P0102, P0103, P0107, P0108, P0122, P0123, P0401, P0506, P0507, P1441, P1508, P1509 and P1645 not set.
IAT at key ON is greater than -25C (-13F).
IAT remains below 99.5C.
ECT at key ON is at least 30C less than previous key OFF ECT reading.
ECT is less than 125C (257F).
MAP is between 29.9 and 60 kPa.
Throttle position between 0 and 81.6 degrees.
Engine speed between 500 and 6375 RPM.
EVAP purge solenoid duty cycle at least 60%.
BARO at least 72.
Engine vacuum at least 12 kPa.
Failure Condition
EVAP purge vacuum switch closed for 9 seconds and the EVAP purge vacuum switch has not been open for 2 seconds at any point during the test.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

The PCM will illuminate the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) when the diagnostic runs and fails.
The PCM will record operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. This information will be stored in the Freeze Frame and Failure Records.
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC

The PCM will turn the MIL OFF after three consecutive drive trips that the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
A Last Test Failed DTC will clear when the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
A History DTC will clear after forty consecutive warm-up cycles with no failures of any diagnostic test.
Use a scan tool to clear DTCs.
Interrupting PCM battery voltage may or may not clear DTCs. This practice is not recommended. Refer to Clearing Diagnostic Trouble Codes in PCM Description and Operation.
Diagnostic Aids

Notice
Do not apply voltage to the EVAP vacuum switch. The voltage supplied by the PCM is of a low current design. The EVAP vacuum switch may be damaged if jumpered to voltage without this current limiting feature.


EVAP System Charcoal Contamination Checking Procedure
Remove EVAP Purge solenoid and the EVAP vacuum switch. Refer to R&R Procedures .
Lightly tap both components on a hard surface.
Check for the release of charcoal from either component.
If charcoal contamination is present replace the EVAP Vapor canister, EVAP Purge solenoid, EVAP Vacuum switch and clean the EVAP purge hoses. Refer to the EVAP Purge Hose Cleaning Procedure .
Test Description
Number(s) below refer to the step number(s) on the Diagnostic Table.

Ensuring correct vacuum line connection and checking if fault conditions are present.

Checking if fault is vacuum or switch.

With a properly operating system the vacuum gauge can fluctuate rapidly while the solenoid is commanded On until 100% duty cycle is reached, at which point the vacuum should indicate the value specified. If the vacuum gauge indicates manifold vacuum immediately following 10% commanded On duty cycle then there is a restriction in the line or canister.


That should make it all perfectly clear! LOL!

Logan
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