: Gas Strike: Friday, May 2, 2008



DopeStar 156
04-30-08, 09:10 PM
Someone told me about it today, just passing the message along. No one buy gas on Friday, May 2, 2008. With that said, I will be participating, whether you all do or not is your own decision. Thank you.......

Rolex
04-30-08, 09:24 PM
What do you hope to accomplish here?

gary88
04-30-08, 09:30 PM
Supply and demand + economics > May 2, 2008

RightTurn
04-30-08, 09:31 PM
:lol: Not this again.

MauiV
04-30-08, 09:34 PM
So youll buy their gas on May 1st and May 3rd?

The ONLY hope of sending a message with actual results is the same unrealistic uniform boycott of the largest oil company Exxon/Mobile and dont buy ANY of their gas EVER. Problem is they are turning RECORD hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars in profits so in reality your sticking it to the independent gas station franchisee who is struggleing by on his own. The hope is the gas station owners would be forced to pressure the big boy execs into cutting into those profits and giving Americans a break at the pump.

Not buying on 1 particular day does NOTHING.

EcSTSatic
04-30-08, 09:40 PM
See Snopes thread
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-forums-lounge-member-introductions/138828-people-seriously-need-learn-about-snopes.html

eldorado99
04-30-08, 09:46 PM
See Snopes thread
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-forums-lounge-member-introductions/138828-people-seriously-need-learn-about-snopes.html

FTW!

AlBundy
04-30-08, 09:49 PM
So youll buy their gas on May 1st and May 3rd?

The ONLY hope of sending a message with actual results is the same unrealistic uniform boycott of the largest oil company Exxon/Mobile and dont buy ANY of their gas EVER. Problem is they are turning RECORD hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars in profits so in reality your sticking it to the independent gas station franchisee who is struggleing by on his own. The hope is the gas station owners would be forced to pressure the big boy execs into cutting into those profits and giving Americans a break at the pump.

Not buying on 1 particular day does NOTHING.

Make it a week. Take public transportation, don't buy gas, rided your bikes...etc. Chicago transit authority charges $2 1ride, $2.25 three rides to get around. Now I work 28miles from my job so my car gets 18 mpg. Gas $4 a gallon. I can take public transportation for $4.50 both ways instead of say $12 driving.:banghead: Not to mention that if you get a all day card, you ride all day for $5.:sneaky:

Lord Cadillac
04-30-08, 09:49 PM
I only buy gas from BP now... I used to use Mobil and Texaco - but I gave that up. I hope I'm doing my part... The one day gas strikes don't do anything, however...

DopeStar 156
04-30-08, 09:52 PM
I will be participating, whether you all do or not is your own decision.

In this sentence I covered myself from responding to this sort of objection.....

ewill3rd
04-30-08, 09:53 PM
I'll be participating too but not because I choose to, because I don't need gas. :lol:

I bought gas 2 days ago, I won't do it again for about 2 more weeks.
(maybe get gas in the bike tomorrow)
I buy it when I need it.
They still get my money. Doesn't matter the date.

I agree and I have said it before, the only way to effectively lower the price is not to use it.
Some good ideas above on how to do that.

DopeStar 156
04-30-08, 09:56 PM
I'll be participating too but not because I choose to, because I don't need gas. :lol:

I bought gas 2 days ago, I won't do it again for about 2 more weeks.
(maybe get gas in the bike tomorrow)
I buy it when I need it.
They still get my money. Doesn't matter the date.

I agree and I have said it before, the only way to effectively lower the price is not to use it.
Some good ideas above on how to do that.

That's my stance exactly. All my cars are filled and won't need to be until Sunday or Monday......

MauiV
04-30-08, 10:02 PM
I live 24 miles from work and there are ZERO options for public transportation between my house and my work. My wife goes to school 20 miles in the OTHER direction so this is about as central a location as I can get.

BTW, Im not bitching about gas prices. I need it, I buy it. I bought a car that eats gas but I also have a decent job so this isnt really a big squeeze on my household like it is on others and I do feel for those that it does. I do however have NO SYMPATHY for the ones bitching while holding a cigarette and a cup of Starbucks. Get your priorities in line.

Personally I find it amazing that they can drill multiple empty holes in the ground all over the planet, some miles under the ocean floor and retrieve raw oil from a few, transport it to a refinery, turn it into petrol, transport it to my station and sell it for $3.50 a gallon.

I have seen hotels sell a litre of WATER for $10. I have seen a gallon of milk for $7.50 (both in the US) and I know how easy it is to procure BOTH of those things. Fuel is one of the least inflated items in the market over the last 30-40 years.

Submariner409
04-30-08, 10:04 PM
Not the case.......in order to lower demand, stop using gasoline/petroleum altogether. Doesn't make one whit about Monday, Thursday, or Saturday. Every car in America won't stop fueling on 2 May, so any drop in the tankage rate doesn't show up anywhere. However, if the tankage rate went to zero nationwide for a week, then we're beginning to see a crack of sunlight in clouds of dawn. Americans will never buy into that: We're too selfish.

Bardstown, KY ???? Heck, you guys can run bourbon cheaper than gas !!!!! (....relatives in Fairfield)

DILLIGAF
04-30-08, 10:09 PM
Dopes alive and kicken!Well done.

MauiV
04-30-08, 10:09 PM
Not the case.......in order to lower demand, stop using gasoline/petroleum altogether. Doesn't make one whit about Monday, Thursday, or Saturday. Every car in America won't stop fueling on 2 May, so any drop in the tankage rate doesn't show up anywhere. However, if the tankage rate went to zero nationwide for a week, then we're beginning to see a crack of sunlight in clouds of dawn. Americans will never buy into that: We're too selfish.

I think the one company boycott (Exxon/Mobile being the biggest) would eventually force the hand of that company to lower their prices, which forces the rest to match to keep market share.

Probably not a permanant fix (until you have to do it again) but it is something. Oil companies understand one thing. MONEY. Taking it away from them is the ONLY thing they will understand.

DopeStar 156
04-30-08, 10:15 PM
Dopes alive and kicken!Well done.

Have I really been that vacant?

DILLIGAF
04-30-08, 10:24 PM
Have I really been that vacant?
Not so much,just not alot of i'm ok and haven some fun.Which you need:bouncy:

Us old farts hate drama and would like to trade places with you young bucks:highfive:

RightTurn
04-30-08, 10:31 PM
I think the one company boycott (Exxon/Mobile being the biggest) would eventually force the hand of that company to lower their prices, which forces the rest to match to keep market share.

Probably not a permanant fix (until you have to do it again) but it is something. Oil companies understand one thing. MONEY. Taking it away from them is the ONLY thing they will understand.

It's ExxonMobil. Good luck with that boycott.

MauiV
04-30-08, 10:36 PM
Like I said, unrealistic but really the only chance anyone has to impose their power as consumers to effect the marketplace.

Most oil companies are publicly traded so their stock can be purchased to get some return on your purchases.

DopeStar 156
04-30-08, 10:37 PM
Not so much,just not alot of i'm ok and haven some fun.Which you need:bouncy:

Us old farts hate drama and would like to trade places with you young bucks:highfive:

Eh, I'm ok...... I'd be lying if I said I was 100% fine.....

thebigjimsho
04-30-08, 10:39 PM
And the dumbing down of America continues. In the internet age, we just take dumbass emails and run. What the internet does provide is easy access to learn about simple economics.

DILLIGAF
04-30-08, 10:40 PM
Hard to out guess exactly whats going on with the gas shit here,around here for the first time ever,oil is being stored in pipelines.If you have sweet Kansas crude for sale your ****ed,no where to store it friend.

DILLIGAF
04-30-08, 10:42 PM
Eh, I'm ok...... I'd be lying if I said I was 100% fine.....
Good enough for me bro!:worship:

Keep on keepen on:thumbsup:

MauiV
04-30-08, 10:43 PM
Im just waiting to see a fuel truck hi-jacking on the news.

Its just a matter of time till some idiot goes Mad Max style.

RightTurn
04-30-08, 10:48 PM
Like I said, unrealistic but really the only chance anyone has to impose their power as consumers to effect the marketplace.

Most oil companies are publicly traded so their stock can be purchased to get some return on your purchases.

So you'd boycott their products to hurt their profits, then buy their plummeting stock? Good plan. :alchi: Economics major?

DopeStar 156
04-30-08, 10:53 PM
Im just waiting to see a fuel truck hi-jacking on the news.

Its just a matter of time till some idiot goes Mad Max style.

And that wouldn't be entertaining?

MauiV
04-30-08, 10:56 PM
I dont try to buy plummeting stock. I prefer PLUMMETED stock.

The oil execs answer to shareholders. The stock is publicly traded so pretty much anyone can become a shareholder and reap the rewards of record quarters.

RightTurn
04-30-08, 11:01 PM
Meh. Each disposable diaper tossed into the trash everyday required 1/2 pint of crude oil to produce. It would make more sense to get people to use cloth diapers for all those babies...do you think that would work??? :umno:

MauiV
04-30-08, 11:23 PM
But what about all the petrol based plastic needed to hold the detergents necessary to clean all those cloth diapers?

dkozloski
04-30-08, 11:33 PM
Meh. Each disposable diaper tossed into the trash everyday required 1/2 pint of crude oil to produce. It would make more sense to get people to use cloth diapers for all those babies...do you think that would work??? :umno:
Ain't no force in the world sufficient to make me go back to cloth diapers with the diaper buckets, stink, mess, and piss soaked everything.

CadiJeff
04-30-08, 11:34 PM
refinery capicity!
refinery capicity!
refinery capicity!
oil prices are less of a problem than most think, demand is up refinery capicity is down you do the math.
low domestic oil production(it really is down there)
oh then there is the totally broken oil futures system that has us paying for oil 15 years from now.
then it falls to opec (which we buy very little oil from anyway)
then the unwillingness of oil companies to lower their profit margin(and still get record profits)
then the unwillingness of federal and state governments to lower or suspend taxes on gas.
this is roughly how it breaks down, we are getting screwed at several levels
but you can blame the EPA for the main two.

Florian
04-30-08, 11:37 PM
Us old farts hate drama and would like to trade places with you young bucks:highfive:

no way Im tradin....Ill stick with my nightly scotch/cigar and relaxation while reading over chasing problematic poon in crappy overpriced bars.


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Florian
04-30-08, 11:38 PM
Ain't no force in the world sufficient to make me go back to cloth diapers with the diaper buckets, stink, mess, and piss soaked everything.

so youre still wearin the Depends then, Koz? :rolleyes:

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AlBundy
04-30-08, 11:43 PM
so youre still wearin the Depends then, Koz? :rolleyes:

F

Owwww no you didn't.:eek:

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
04-30-08, 11:49 PM
I have never bought gas from Exxon/Mobile or Shell. Have you heard the profits that Shell just released today. For the FIRST QUARTER of the year (3 months) they made over 7.5 BILLION dollars. They can shove my money up their Middle Eastern a**. I only buy gas from BP because they import the least amount of oil in the US.

I rarely buy gas though. A full tank of 18 gallons will last me 2 and a half weeks. My car gets crap mileage, 14-15 city, but I don't drive a lot. If I need to go to several places, I do it all in one trip. I also ride my bike almost more than I drive my car. Last week I covered a total of 32 miles on my bike and only 35 in my car.

dkozloski
05-01-08, 12:02 AM
so youre still wearin the Depends then, Koz? :rolleyes:

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My boy uses ATN disposables at about $150/month. I have them airmailed in from Chicago.

I piss in my pants.

How do you spot a Polack with bad kidneys? A rusty zipper and yellow sneakers.

93DevilleUSMC
05-01-08, 12:03 AM
Wow, people nenver learn. We've allready tried this! We'll buy gas the day before this so-called strike, buy nothing on one day, and be back to purchasing gas on the same day. OPEC is not going to miss one day`s worth of your money.

MauiV
05-01-08, 12:50 AM
I have never bought gas from Exxon/Mobile or Shell. Have you heard the profits that Shell just released today.

Problem is that at most stations its hard to tell who their actual provider is.

The gas coming out of the pump often isnt the same as the name on the sign.

AMGoff
05-01-08, 01:03 AM
Good lord... every year something like this comes up and most likely because some hippy-dippy college kid in California had some great epiphany between his second and third joints.

As has already been said... this is nothing more than a fruitless exercise - not buying gas on one day won't accomplish bo-diddly because it does nothing to address any of the reasons of why gas prices have gone as high as they have.

All sides of this argument and their respective solutions seem to do nothing but chase their own tails.

Yes... refining capacity is pretty much maxed out in this country - but that has nothing to do with the fact that the crude which gets refined is a speculative commodity. Yes... the government places a tax on gasoline, but suspending that tax will only do more harm than good because:

A. That 18 cent tax elimination won't be reflected as a drop in price at the pump and,
B. The last thing we need right now is the elimination of another tax because there won't be any cuts in federal spending to go along with it.

Massive deficit spending and subsequent debt is a contributing factor to the problem. If nothing else, the only thing the Federal government needs to cease (at least temporarily) is the stockpiling of crude in the Strategic Reserve... granted, it won't even put a dent in overall consumption, but we need to do things to lessen demand - not increase it like a suspension of the gas tax would do.

None of the solutions being presented currently will do a damn thing to two of the biggest contributing factors, those being the devaluation of the Dollar and global demand. Our dollar doesn't buy as much as it used to and it's not the demand of the US which is skyrocketing... demand in this country has risen at a steady, predictable clip... it's places like China and India where demand is increasing exponentially. There's only so much oil being produced and refined... and more and more people want it.

Is the rest of the world not going to buy gas on that day?

The only thing any of us can do to really make a difference is by personally giving up petroleum period... wanna make a difference? Go buy an old diesel and run it on veggie oil... or go buy a plug-in electric vehicle because sadly, at $3.50 a gallon - we haven't seen anything yet.

illumina
05-01-08, 02:25 AM
Solution #2000 -

Nuke India and have China blamed for it. China and India go to war and reduce remaining population. America will benefit from Eastern population reduction and thus oil will be abundant again here!

Or solution #1999 -

Deal with it until some things like tapping our own oil resources, E85, and boost refining capacity becomes reality.

Night Wolf
05-01-08, 08:13 AM
Im just waiting to see a fuel truck hi-jacking on the news.

Its just a matter of time till some idiot goes Mad Max style.

Not far from it. While watching the news in the breakroom at work, they are saying the amount of gas people are stealing is crazy... everything from pumping gas into their car with your pump when you walk away with it on, to filling up and driving off, but then even steal gas the old fashioned way... and don't even need locking gas cap, they drill right thru the tank, showed some truckers on the TV that had that happen and a small hospital that was delayed 6hrs in getting breathing oxygen to someone because somebody drilled thru the tank in the ambulance to steal the gas.

My company just did a fleetwide campaign to switch from BP 2197/2380 to Mobil JetOil II... they come in the quarts by the thousands, and that is just this one location.... guess that means we support the terrorists now :bigroll:

Personally for my car, I only go to Chevron, the whole techtron and top tier thing did it for me... if not Chevron, then any other top tier... Shell, I think Texaco, tho there are not many around here... I don't think BP is top tier, but their gas still seems to be good.

EcSTSatic
05-01-08, 11:11 AM
My plan is to use less. Keep the cars tuned and maintained and plan my trips. I even picked up a Ford Escort so I could garage the van. Americans are going to have to learn what the rest of the world already knows.

Here's an education in layman's terms.
How gas prices work (http://money.howstuffworks.com/gas-price.htm)

ewill3rd
05-01-08, 11:30 AM
We still pay half of what most countries residents pay at the pump.
All I can do is conserve... which I have been doing for years.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
05-01-08, 01:38 PM
Why does this keep coming up???

RightTurn
05-01-08, 02:03 PM
Probably because people like you keep posting to it. :alchi:

AlBundy
05-01-08, 03:33 PM
Nothing wrong with making an effort.....FIGHT THE POWER.:want:

EcSTSatic
05-01-08, 03:38 PM
Like the adage of peeing in your pants. You get a warm feeling but no one appreciates it.

http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/hope.jpg

Krashed989
05-01-08, 06:10 PM
I work at a gas station/garage... Currently the prices are $3.96 regular, $4.16 for plus, $4.26 for super.... I can tell you factually that boycotting gas for one day will not do a damned thing. The gas stations buy their fuel deliveries about once or twice a week. Before you even buy the gas, it has been paid for by the gas station. The petroleum companies have their money already. The only way you can do damage would be to boycott the gas for at least a week. I don't think that is very possible for most people.

The ONLY way to make this really work would be to boycott the use of gas for at least a day. If you boycott buying gas and you still use it during that day, you're just going to buy gas another day. The question is, How are you going to boycott the use of gas? It's nearly impossible for most. Better yet, How do you make it a habit to boycott the use of gas?

MauiV
05-01-08, 06:17 PM
$3.96 in Hawaii to the current $3.79 here is the least different I have ever seen it. Maui was usually $0.80 to $1.00 more.

I sold my F150 Supercrew 4X4 after about a year on Island because I got tired of the ridiculous cost.

Wow.

Krashed989
05-02-08, 01:24 PM
Alright... you guys have me on board with this gas strike thing. I put gas yesterday, $60 worth of it. Therefore I don't have the need to put gas today. So, I'm good.

:hide: :p

ewill3rd
05-02-08, 01:39 PM
I forgot and filled my bike up today.
I think it was $4.00.
:lol:
Turns out I wasn't as low as I thought.

The Tony Show
05-02-08, 01:47 PM
My Wife boycotted gas in my house a long time ago.

:rimshot:

CIWS
05-03-08, 05:44 PM
I haven't driven enough in the last week to justify buying gas. So I participated by default.

dkozloski
05-03-08, 06:08 PM
The plan worked. The price of gas went up another ten cents.

Night Wolf
05-03-08, 06:29 PM
the Lincoln didn't need gas..... I guess I did my part.

Sinister Angel
05-04-08, 03:46 PM
I let my M998 idle for about 2 hours so my ass could stay warm in the field, suckers.

gary88
05-04-08, 04:03 PM
$3.75 for regular here. $87 to fill up the Escalade today :mad2:

05cts-v
05-04-08, 04:43 PM
We had this same discusiion on another thread. IMO, you can boycott, let the oil companies drill in Alaska and you will still have the exact same prices and maybe a little higher. Anything short of big brother stepping will not reduce gas prices. Even if big brother does decide to play a role, it will only be short term and then prices will sky rocket again.