: 2009 CTS-V Confirmed Information



Cadillac Tony
04-29-08, 06:33 PM
Due to the (sometimes fun) off topic banter that's been going on in here, I thought it would be a good idea to consolidate all the "confirmed" information about the 2009 CTS-V into one thread.

Please keep the discussion and comparisons in the many other existing threads, as this one will be updated with new confirmed information as it is released, and I'd like it to be easy for everyone to find what they're looking for.

OFFICIAL SPECS, DIMENSIONS AND CAPACITIES

Check out Reed's excellent site at http://www.cadillacfaq.com/gi/09v.html, and drop him a donation while you're there to keep this invaluable resource up and running.

2009 CTS-V COLOR CHOICES

Exterior

-(17U) Radiant Silver
-(30U) Thunder Gray Chromaflair*
-(41U) Black Raven
-(89U) Crystal Red Tintcoat*
-(96U) Blue Diamond TriCoat*
-(98U) White Diamond TriCoat*

*Denotes an additional charge

Interior

-(195) Ebony with Ebony Accents (dash pad, upper door panels)
-(845) Light Titanium with Ebony Accents
-(315) Ebony/Light Cashmere Two Tone (Ebony seat edges with Cashmere inserts- Not available when equipped with Optional Recaro seats)

2009 CTS-V Packages and options (Prices TBA)

-(UAV): Audio system with Navigation
-(W2E): Recaro Heated/Ventilated Performance Seats
-(C3U): Ultraview Power Sunroof
-(P80): 19x9" front, 19x9.5" rear Polished Aluminum Wheels
-(K05): Engine Block Heater
-(MX0): Six Speed Automatic Transmission

-(RJE): CTS-V Performance Collection. Includes (UAV),(W2E),(P80),(N45) Sueded Steering Wheel and (KAE) Sueded Shift Knob. (N45) and (KAE) only available in this collection.


As of the time of this writing we are still awaiting Official SAE Certified HP and Torque numbers on the new LSA engine.

Production is scheduled to begin in September, with cars arriving in Dealers Q4 2008.

concorso
04-29-08, 06:45 PM
Good info, thanks Tony! But when will you get some info on colors? :)

*Edit* No optional 18's eh? They won't fit over the brakes? I haven't checked, butI always hear there are alot less selection of tires for 19's...

thebigjimsho
04-29-08, 09:08 PM
Good info, thanks Tony! But when will you get some info on colors? :)

*Edit* No optional 18's eh? They won't fit over the brakes? I haven't checked, butI always hear there are alot less selection of tires for 19's...Tire selection is just fine in 19". Most competition tires are available in 19"s now as well.

StealthV
04-29-08, 10:44 PM
What's the ETA on the AWD Stealth Edition?

Just say no to chrome. :norightturn:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41600&stc=1&d=1209522895

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41601&stc=1&d=1209523336

thebigjimsho
04-29-08, 10:49 PM
The more I think about it, the more I believe I'm going AWD on the next V. I guess I'll never own a car I can get a decent burnout in...

StealthV
04-29-08, 11:02 PM
CTS-V4 - It's like peanut butter to the roof of your mouth.


Thank you Porsche for the marketing one liner.

Jpjr
04-30-08, 05:04 AM
I am really glad to see the suede steering wheel and knob are options. They just don't seem to fit right with the interior in my opinion. Rather have leather.

thebigjimsho
04-30-08, 10:59 AM
I am really glad to see the suede steering wheel and knob are options. They just don't seem to fit right with the interior in my opinion. Rather have leather.It fits right with the track. Suede, FTW!

edsuski
04-30-08, 11:43 AM
I agree - I don't really get the "suede" option. Just seems like it is not likely to wear well and looks a little out of place.

As for 4WD - I don't think it is an option for the V - is it?

Ed

1fstkde
04-30-08, 12:08 PM
What's the ETA on the AWD Stealth Edition?

Just say no to chrome. :norightturn:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41600&stc=1&d=1209522895

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41601&stc=1&d=1209523336
forget snowmobiling!!! :bouncy::2thumbs:

StealthV
04-30-08, 12:58 PM
I agree - I don't really get the "suede" option. Just seems like it is not likely to wear well and looks a little out of place.

As for 4WD - I don't think it is an option for the V - is it?
Ed

4WD would be interesting with 4-Lo, 2-Hi and 4-Hi modes. :) Instead just make mine AWD; we've got two sold already in this thread.

If the new V is only ever offered RWD, I'm going the Z06 route and keep the BMW as the go anywhere, embarass most V1s to 100 mph, 30 mpg, daily beater car.

AWD weight penalty = 250 lbs
AWD price increase = $2500
Ability to actually use all the LSA's power* = Priceless.

Subie? Evo? No cheesy tinfoil econobox for me.

CTS-V4 The red, white and blue punch in the face in the world of AWD.

*Maggied V1 owners understand that a V is traction limited, not power limiited for maximum performance from zero to triple digit velocities. And the side benefit of having one machine that performs like no other over the four seasons of the rust belt.

concorso
04-30-08, 01:42 PM
Where it says 'sueded'...is it safe to assume they mean Alcantara?

3 awd's Stealth! :) If they release a Coupe AWD V, Ill have no need for 2 vehicles anymore...
The only reason I have 2 vehicles now is that the CTS just can't get everywhere I need to go all the time...
I can't afford to be late to work solely because there's 4 ft of snow on the ground and a layer of ice underneath.

urbanski
04-30-08, 01:53 PM
'vert coupe awd v ftw

thebigjimsho
04-30-08, 02:41 PM
I am really glad to see the suede steering wheel and knob are options. They just don't seem to fit right with the interior in my opinion. Rather have leather.


I agree - I don't really get the "suede" option. Just seems like it is not likely to wear well and looks a little out of place.

As for 4WD - I don't think it is an option for the V - is it?

EdThe track, the track, the track!!! Period. Suede, alcantra, fuzzy microfiber, I don't care what it's called. It's better for grip...

Cadillac Tony
04-30-08, 03:39 PM
Where it says 'sueded'...is it safe to assume they mean Alcantara?

Yes. There are many brands of synthetic suede- I don't know if they are actually using the Alcantara brand, but it is definitely synthetic to avoid the moisture sensitivity and wear associated with normal suede.

If Team Cadillac and Andy Pilgrim like a sueded steering wheel in the race car then it must be a good thing. Here's a quick pic I shot at Sebring last year:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/Cadillac_Tony/wheelsmall.jpg

Jpjr
04-30-08, 11:29 PM
I understand the suede is there for performance. It is very typical on Porsches. I just don't think it goes well with a performance luxary combination. I can't justify the look for the little time mine will spend at the track, that's all. Plus the suede wears extremely fast I am told and starts to look like crap.

StealthV
04-30-08, 11:53 PM
Here's my order...

Exterior

-(41U) Black Raven

Interior

-(195) Ebony with Ebony Accents (dash pad, upper door panels)

2009 CTS-V Packages and options (Prices TBA)

-(K05): Engine Block Heater
-(NR3): Transfer Case, AWD, Electronic Automatic System (Keep the PS2 tires, don't gimp it with all-season crap)
-(RJE): CTS-V Performance Collection. Includes (UAV) Audio system with Navigation, (W2E) Recaro Heated/Ventilated Performance Seats, (P80) 19x9" front, 19x9.5" rear Polished Aluminum Wheels, (N45) Sueded Steering Wheel and (KAE) Sueded Shift Knob.

JEM
05-01-08, 02:09 AM
The track, the track, the track!!! Period. Suede, alcantra, fuzzy microfiber, I don't care what it's called. It's better for grip...

It feels good, and I know guys who have Alcantara wheels in their M5s, but it's not a must-have.

Any pix of the Blue Diamond around anywhere?

Me still want wagon...

ewill3rd
05-01-08, 07:10 AM
We should have some pictures of a couple next week.
:D
A week and a day and GM will have two of them for us to look at.
I can hardly wait!

thebigjimsho
05-01-08, 09:02 AM
I can hardly wait!No, you can't.

urbanski
05-01-08, 12:31 PM
(Keep the PS2 tires, don't gimp it with all-season crap)


even with AWD, are you sure those PS2s will do you well in winter?

StealthV
05-01-08, 10:35 PM
Exactly why it needs to come with the PS2 tires. Big fat sticky rubber on nice stock wheels for summer and I'll go buy a cost effective set of wheels with real winter tires for the other half of the year.

Jpjr
05-02-08, 05:58 AM
Exactly why it needs to come with the PS2 tires. Big fat sticky rubber on nice stock wheels for summer and I'll go buy a cost effective set of wheels with real winter tires for the other half of the year.

I agree with Urbanski on this one. I've got PS2's on my Cobra... but coincidentally it never gets driven in the Winter. I think you need all season for a daily driver unless you live in a warm weather climate all year.

chris1268
05-02-08, 09:03 AM
I have a quick question......I just heard they may be changing the metal mesh grill to plastic. Anyone else heard of that yet?

Cadillac Tony
05-02-08, 09:38 AM
The grill on the '09 is made out of a composite material, not metal like the 04-07 Vs. It's difficult to explain without seeing it up close, but the new mesh is not flat when viewed in the profile like the current car- it now has raised points where the lines intersect to better funnel air into the engine bay.

Stamping a part like that out of metal would have been incredibly expensive AND heavy. Since the Supercharger and new interior already added some weight, a lightweight grill can only be considered a good thing.

chris1268
05-02-08, 09:44 AM
Thanks - I was concerned about a plastic having to be so thick that it would actually restrict the airflow.

Cadillac Tony
05-02-08, 11:28 AM
The openings in the mesh are a lot bigger on the 2009 than the current model- probably twice the size. Here's a quick comparison:

RightTurn
05-02-08, 12:26 PM
But...does it come in black? :coffee: I need confirmation.

lawfive
05-02-08, 12:38 PM
You said "come in black"

thebigjimsho
05-02-08, 03:20 PM
I agree with Urbanski on this one. I've got PS2's on my Cobra... but coincidentally it never gets driven in the Winter. I think you need all season for a daily driver unless you live in a warm weather climate all year.Did you read what you quoted? You do not make a 550+hp uber-sedan and equip it with all-seasons...

StealthV
05-02-08, 09:16 PM
Amen. And the sole purpose of bringing it up is make sure GM doesn't replicate the marketing intern move of making the CTS4 only available with all-season rubber (also known as JUNK).

Jpjr
05-03-08, 10:59 AM
Did you read what you quoted? You do not make a 550+hp uber-sedan and equip it with all-seasons...

Umm... yes, you do. If the car is meant to be driven all-season then the tires need to be up to the task. It is really that simple.

thebigjimsho
05-03-08, 02:44 PM
Umm... yes, you do. If the car is meant to be driven all-season then the tires need to be up to the task. It is really that simple.And it has 550+hp. AWD doesn't necessarily mean it was made just for snow. There are other reasons. And instead of getting some shitball all-seasons, you equip it with Max Summer and let the buyer purchase whatever winter tire and/or wheel combo.

V2 with all-seasons is teh ghey.

StealthV
05-03-08, 04:44 PM
All season tires on an AWD V = poop.

StealthV
05-03-08, 04:45 PM
- Ack.

urbanski
05-03-08, 08:23 PM
peup

RightTurn
05-03-08, 08:29 PM
My Spam Detector lead me here. :spam:

HiTechRV
05-03-08, 11:24 PM
You need all seasons as an option, and summer tires as an option as well. One size just does not fit all.

Jpjr
05-04-08, 12:06 AM
You need all seasons as an option, and summer tires as an option as well. One size just does not fit all.

Agree on that point, but standard would logically be all season. I personally would rather have an all season and pick my own performance tires for summer.

chris1268
05-04-08, 08:44 AM
Especially with a possible November ship date for those of us in Chicago

StealthV
05-04-08, 11:56 AM
All season tires should be against the law to manufacture and sell for cars. On second thought, they are very good at doing nothing extremely well.

thebigjimsho
05-04-08, 12:18 PM
On second thought, they are very good at doing nothing extremely well.Exactly. The V2 will be badass. They give you badass tires and you look for your own winter rubber.

Kidhummer
05-04-08, 12:22 PM
Spoke to my dealer yesterday. He told me that they were told the V will be around $75k. Hope they are wrong! Also, he said I can have the first one that comes in. Thinking about putting a deposit down on the #1 spot.

Dr Chill
05-04-08, 02:09 PM
For $75,000 I suspect a lot of people will be taking their deposits back.

chris1268
05-04-08, 04:37 PM
Did they say that was with all the options? I had heard base in the low 60's. That's a big difference

Kidhummer
05-04-08, 04:39 PM
All he said was that they were told its around $75k. He didnt mention if that was the fully loaded or base price.

chris1268
05-04-08, 04:41 PM
thanks

V-Love
05-04-08, 07:21 PM
For $75,000 I suspect a lot of people will be taking their deposits back.

Definetely.

v84life
05-04-08, 07:51 PM
For 75k I'll be moving on.........Heck for anything more than 65k I'll have to think real hard.

Kadonny
05-05-08, 01:12 PM
It won't be 75k.

Cadillac Tony
05-05-08, 02:13 PM
It won't be 75k.


We've both been posting it for years now Kadonny (you first, I think), and people still don't believe us. :lol:

RunningOnEMT
05-05-08, 02:21 PM
I'll take one in white, black interior, sport seats, glass roof, and auto with paddles

tedcmiller
05-08-08, 10:39 AM
StealthV specified the NR3 (AWD) option code for his "2009 CTS-V order." NR3 is a valid code for Escalades, but, as far as I have been abele to determine, is not available on CTSs or CTS-Vs. Right or wrong?

Cadillac Tony
05-08-08, 01:42 PM
I believe Stealth was speaking hypothetically considering the fact you can't order a CTS-V yet, nor is NR3 an option code on the '09 V. The RPOs I posted on the first page of this thread are the only options on the 09 CTS-V. All of 'em.

concorso
05-08-08, 08:12 PM
Will there be an option for a sexy womans voice on the NAV? :)

ylwjacket
05-09-08, 09:23 PM
will be some aftermarket options, like corsa exhaust, or stiffer springs, like the last time around? or is it like it is this time out, and other stuff would have to get done later someplace.

also - are enterprising people already working on aftermarket performance upgrades?

ewill3rd
05-09-08, 09:30 PM
From Summit Point... today.

Gorgeous!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/ewill3rd/vday/PICT5286.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/ewill3rd/vday/PICT5287.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/ewill3rd/vday/PICT5288.jpg

ewill3rd
05-09-08, 09:34 PM
Sorry about the rotation thing... not too good with photobucket. I don't use it much.

Here are some outside shots, in the rain.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/ewill3rd/vday/PICT5306.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/ewill3rd/vday/PICT5289.jpg

RightTurn
05-09-08, 09:38 PM
Wowser. :drool:

StealthV
05-09-08, 10:13 PM
Drool. :drool:

On the NR3 AWD, I'm just having fun along with voicing my customer opinion to Cadillac on the perfect V2 for my needs. Also forgot my other preferred option but I'm not sure yet what to use for a RPO as a no-chrome option probably sets a precedence at Cadillac. Being a brand management guy in the day job, I understand the delima with global nomenclature. :)

Possible new RPOs:

- VDR (Vader)
- BLK (Black Out!) Scream it Scorpion's style!
- RRM (Redrum)
- CSA (Chrome Sucks Ass)
- DKS (Dark Side)
- TTD (Take That Deutschland)
- SV2 (Stealth V2) My favorite. :D

noelvm
05-09-08, 10:46 PM
I ordered the bucket (sport) seats. I hope a 6'1", 220 lb guy can fit in them confortably.

Noelvm

thebigjimsho
05-09-08, 11:16 PM
And those pics don't do the interior justice. The light grey, black and piano lacquer look is sooooooooooooooooo HAWT!

StealthV
05-09-08, 11:36 PM
Nice to see the thigh extensions on the seats - Love the power adjustable ones on my current ride.

May actually deviate from the traditional dark leather - As TBJS would say, HAWT!

StealthV
05-10-08, 12:25 AM
Figured out the proper RPO code for the blacked-out, no chrome version.

A12

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/09/a12_1.jpg

Too bad A12 is already used on some mundane thing. :nono:

There are a few in the system that would work -

14Q : MOLDING COLOR, BLACK 4ET (91)
19Q : MOLDING COLOR (BLACK)
41L : SECONDARY COLOR, EXTERIOR, BLACK (91)
41Q : MOLDING COLOR, BLACK (91)
AA9 : WINDOW, REAR, BLACKOUT BANDED EDGE
B6A : APPEAR PKG, BLACK ACCENT EXT, EUROSPORT
B7C : ORNAMENTATION, EXTR BLACK
TL6 : GRILLE, BLACK
ZQ9 : APPEARANCE PACKAGE, EXTERIOR TRIM, BLACK OUT

ewill3rd
05-10-08, 11:58 AM
The Recaro seats are optional.
Those are the fancy ones. I didn't sit in it but a few guys did.

The two that ran on the track had 5 point harnesses and racing seats in them with TONS of electronics in the back.
I should have taken more photos I guess.

csp3000
05-14-08, 11:05 AM
For $75,000 I suspect a lot of people will be taking their deposits back.

If it is 75K Dr Chill I can I take your spot at the dealership for the V if you dont want it anymore...:D Cause even at 75K with what this car is competing with it is still a bargin...:yup:

Cadillac Tony
06-14-08, 01:24 PM
Black Ice has been added as a color choice.

The name is a little misleading, since the metallic makes it appear more of a Charcoal Gray, but it's still a nice color. If you want to see it in person, it was available for a short time on the 2008 DTS. A Dealer close to you might have one of those still.

Curious George
06-17-08, 12:29 AM
The openings in the mesh are a lot bigger on the 2009 than the current model- probably twice the size. Here's a quick comparison:

It will let bigger bugs reach the AC condenser. My '06 grille stops bees and like-sized creatures. Those that miss the '09 mesh will get right through.