: PBS Documentary: "Carrier," two thumbs up!

04-28-08, 02:22 PM
Seeing talk of documentaries in the other thread just reminded me of this... Last night on PBS, the began showing the new documentary, "Carrier." The documentary follows the day-to-day lives of the crew and officers of the USS Nimitz - all the way up from E-1s to the Command Master Chief to the Air Commanders to the Marine Air Battalion to the Captain. What's really neat about it all is that their more focused on the crew of the ship than the actual hardware... they showed the first two hours of it last night and it's on again at 9:00pm (right after Top Gear - so the timing's perfect!).

As I've mentioned before, while I never served myself I do come from a Naval family... so I find all of this to be inextricably fascinating. I wholeheartedly recommend to anyone who has any interest in the Navy (or the military et al) to tune in tonight (and if you can, make a contribution to your local station - they're having their Spring membership drive!). Even the wife was into it... and she normally hates watching stuff like the Military Channel.

If nothing else, one of the biggest eye openers for me was just how young many of the enlistees... some of whom even described the Nimitz as a "floating highschool." While it's certainly nothing new... it's just something one normally doesn't think about... especially given that they're all of the MTV/VH1 generation. Of course, that makes this documentary all the more interesting for me at least... they don't try to glorify the crew, but actually present them as the people they really are and the (self-admitting) kids many of them also are... and it brings a whole new level of respect for those who choose to do such (except for the one who thought "Candalizi Rice" was the Secretary of Defense... lol.). Plus... none of that includes the storyline following the few female fighter pilots on board... again, a whole new level of respect and kudos to them as well.

So yeah... be sure to check it out if you can.

04-28-08, 02:24 PM
I overheard my dad watching that last night as I was posting about the meet. I remember hearing about how some one my age met their girlfriend at a Wendys or something, got her pregnant and got shipped off to the carrier.

04-28-08, 03:16 PM
I agree with AMGoff this documentary is really well done and a must see for anyone with even the slightest interest in our armed forces. I really find it hard to believe the average age of the crew of the USS Nimitz is 18 years old ........ 20 years old I could believe given the number of Chiefs, officers and pilots. But once again this film gives testimony to the true abilities of our young people when given responsbility and properly trained. It also goes far in showing what so many of our young people have missed by not being obligated to serve their country as a right of passage to adulthood.

04-28-08, 07:04 PM
There are two types of ships: Submarines and Targets. (My son-in-law is a retired Bird Farm Nuke (what disgrace......))

04-29-08, 02:03 AM
There are two types of ships: Submarines and Targets. (My son-in-law is a retired Bird Farm Nuke (what disgrace......))

Now that is some funny shit.

On s a side note, I watched some it and it is pretty good. It really gives the crews perspective of everyday life while underway.
I can't believe they have pay phones. I must have missed them on my last submarine.

04-29-08, 06:28 AM
I don't know how you sub guys do it.
I'd lose my mind. Heck I can hardly stand to be on a boat at all!
Maybe watching machines break every day... well... you know.

Someone at my wife's job emailed us about that show. I was interested but I am afraid I don't have much time to take on the responsibility of watching a new show! :lol:
I would like to see it.
I am an Air Force brat myself, my dad did 20. Me and water don't get along.
I am going to JSOH this year in a couple weeks out at Andrews. Going to take EWill4th out there with me, he loves it almost as much as I do... a couple more years and I'll have him hooked!

Wonder if they will have any of the new KC-45s out there this year?

I hope I can catch a few episodes of this carrier show.

04-29-08, 09:17 AM
I watched some of that series this weekend. I found the parts about the whiney crew tedious. I was wanting to show my wife the dangers and intricacies of carrier ops and had to listen to this.
I was in one of those privileged Marine squadrons attached to carriers. We sailed on the USS Midway and a short stint on the USS Enterprise. Back then women weren't permitted on board.
Flight deck operations is dangerous duty. We got extra pay for working topside. My job was to keep the avionics working in order to complete our missions. It was dangerous, hard, and stressful work. At sea we worked 12 on, 12 off, 7 days a week. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. Like they said; we worked hard and played hard when we pulled into port.

My tour (http://pages.prodigy.net/fremin/Garage/marines.htm) if you are interested

04-29-08, 09:41 AM
Back in the dark ages when I was in the canoe club we had kiddy cruisers. They enlisted when they were 17 and discharged on their 21st birthday. Every one I knew in my rate, missile technician, made E-5 before they got out. Polaris field, sewer pipe sailors, had to enlist for six years on their first hitch to get the schools. It wasn't long before new enlisties in my rate had to signup for six years because so many were like me and got out as soon as they could. I was asked to extend for the cruise and I laughed at them so they took me to WESPAC anyway. They kept working on me but I woundup flying back from the South China sea for separation ahead of the ship. Sometimes I think about what might have been with a career but not for long. There was just too much BS military crap to suit me. I felt I was capable of making my own decisions for myself and didn't like the constant supervision. Some guys thrived on it because being on board ship was almost like being in prison with three hots and a flop. There wasn't much to worry about as far as where your next meal was coming from and what you'd be dong to support yourself tomorrow.

04-29-08, 02:01 PM
There are two types of ships: Submarines and Targets. (My son-in-law is a retired Bird Farm Nuke (what disgrace......))

The first one you listed is a boat.

Fly Navy!

04-29-08, 02:06 PM
If you ever miss your haze grey and underway days......

1. Sleep on the shelf in your closet.

2. Replace the closet door with a curtain.

3. Four hours after you go to sleep have your wife whip open the curtain, shine a flashlight in your eyes, and mumble, "Sorry, wrong rack."

4. Renovate your bathroom. Build a wall across the middle of your bathtub and move the shower head down to chest level.

5. When you take showers, make sure you shut off the water while soaping.

6. Every time there's a thunderstorm, go sit in a wobbly rocking chair and rock as hard as you can until you're nauseous.

7. Put lube oil in your humidifier instead of water and set it to "High."

8. Don't watch TV except movies in the middle of the night. Have your family vote on which movie to watch, then show a different one.

9. Leave lawn mower running in your living room 24 hours a day for proper noise level.

10. Have the paper boy give you a haircut with dull sheep sheers.

11. Once a week blow compressed air up through your chimney, making sure the wind carries the soot across and onto your neighbor's house. Laugh at him when he curses you.

12. Buy a trash compactor but only use it once a week. Store up garbage in your bathtub.

13. Wake up every night at midnight and have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on stale bread, if anything. (Optional: Canned ravioli or soup. Do not heat!)

14. Make up your family menu a week ahead of time without looking in your food cabinets or refrigerator.

15. Set your alarm clock to go off at random times during the night. When it goes off, jump out of bed and get dressed as fast as you can, then run out into your yard and break out the garden hose.

16. Once a month take every major kitchen and laundry appliance and electric garden tool you own completely apart and then put them back together. Do this every week with your lawnmower.

17. Use 18 scoops of coffee per pot and allow it to sit for 5 or 6 hours before drinking.

18. Invite at least 5000 people you don't really like to come and visit for about 6 months.

19. Have a fluorescent lamp installed on the bottom of your coffee table and lie under it to read books.

20. Raise the thresholds and lower the top sills on your front and back doors so that you either trip over the threshold or hit you head on the sill every time you pass through one of them.

21. Lockwire the lugnuts on your car.

22. Bake a cake. Prop up one side of the pan while it is baking. Then spread icing really thick on one side to level off the top.

23. Every so often, throw your cat into the swimming pool, shout "Man overboard, ship recovery!", run into the kitchen and sweep all the pots/pans/dishes/silverware off of the counter onto the floor, then yell at your wife for not having the place "stowed for sea."

24. Put on the headphones from your stereo (don't plug them in). Go and stand in front of your stove. Say (to nobody in particular) "Stove manned and ready." Stand there for 3 or 4 hours. Say (once again to nobody in particular) "Stove secured." Roll up the headphone cord and put them away.

25. Put a lamp shade on your head, tuck your levi trouser legs into the tops of your socks and sit on the floor of your closet with the light out until some one yells, "Secure from general quarters". (PS: no smoking either.)

26. Buy a dumpster, paint it gray and live in it for 6 months straight.

27. Run all of the piping and wires inside your house on the outside of the walls.

28. Pump 10 inches of nasty, crappy water into your basement, then pump it out, clean up, and paint the basement "deck gray."

29. Every couple of weeks, dress up in your best clothes and go the scummiest part of town, find the most run down, trashy bar you can, pay $10 per beer until you're hammered, then walk home in the freezing cold.

30. On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays turn your water temperature up to 200 degrees, then on Tuesday and Thursday turn it down to 10 degrees. On Saturdays and Sundays declare to your entire family that they used too much water during the week, so all showering is secured.

31. Raise your bed to within 6 inches of the ceiling, if you don't have a closet shelf.

32. Have your next door neighbor come over each day at 5 am, and blow a whistle so loud that Helen Keller could hear it and shout "Reveille, Reveille, all hands heave out and trice up."

33. Have your mother-in-law write down everything she's going to do the following day, then have her make you stand in the back yard at 6 am and read it to you.

34. Eat the raunchiest Mexican food you can find for three days straight, then lock the bathroom door for 12 hours, and hang a sign on it that reads "Secured - contact OA DIV at X-3053."

35. Submit a request form to your father-in-law, asking if it's ok for you to leave your house before 3 pm.

36. Make your family qualify to operate all the appliances in your home (i.e. Dishwasher operator, blender technician, etc.)

37. Walk around your car for 4 hours checking the tire pressure every 15 minutes.

38. Sit in your car and let it run for 4 hours before going anywhere. This is to ensure your engine is properly "lit off".

39. Empty all the garbage bins in your house, and sweep your driveway 3 times a day, whether they need it or not.

40. Repaint your entire house once a month. Gray.

41. Cook all of your food blindfolded, groping for any spice and seasoning you can get your hands on.

42. Have your neighbor collect all your mail for a month, randomly losing every 5th item.

43. Spend $20,000 on a satellite system for your TV, but only watch CNN and the Weather Channel.

44. Sew back pockets to the front of your pants.

45. Spend 2 weeks in the red-light districts of Europe, and call it "world travel."

46. Spend 5 years working at McDonalds, but do NOT get promoted.

47. Needle gun the aluminum siding on your house after your neighbors have gone to bed.

04-29-08, 02:48 PM
You forgot the part about keeping everything you own on earth in a tin box half the size of a GI footlocker. Anything that doesn't fit goes to the landfill.

Untuck your shirt tail and have somebody yell at you about it for a half hour.

Periodically have a friend secretly puke in your shoes so you can find it when you get up in the middle of the night for no good reason.

Every third night refuel your car in pitch dark and and a rainstorm just to be sure you don't run out.