Ok, as some of you know, I drive a lot of miles a year and with gas prices out of hand, I am thinking of selling my 80 Turbo T/A and my 94 Fleetwood and getting a 2000-2005 Deville, preferably a DHS, but the other car in mind is a 98-up Park Avenue/Park Ave Ultra.

Ok, stuck with a need for 6 pass seating (meaning 6 seat belts) Ranger mentioned the 2000-up cars are technically a 5 pass and don't have a seat belt for the middle front. Was that a DHS thing only and Devilles have it?

Is there a reason to go with the Buford over a Cadillac?

mpg is important, looking to get in the mid 20's combo, higher the better. My FW is a tow package car and never has got that good, 22 best. But 3.42's and the LT1 torque sure is fun....
6 pass seating is mandatory. No if ands and buts. Well, 6 butts....

Thoughts? Any other rides I should consider? I do have a strict budget and car payments are not an option...

No rice burners, might consider a beer burner, but that would be hard to accept too, I want my $$ supporting my country somehow...

Personally I would opt for the park avenue, the 3.8L engine is probably one of the best made by gm ever, and its suprisingly good on gas, even with the supercharger. Not to mention you can really mod it out if you get the urge. A park ave will also be alot cheaper to purchase and maintain than a deville.

Its a better idea to get the caddy instead of the PA. 6 asses in a Buick doesnt sound like a good idea. But I would think it a better idea to keep the fleetwood for when you need to seat six and tow.

Its a better idea to get the caddy instead of the PA. 6 asses in a Buick doesnt sound like a good idea. But I would think it a better idea to keep the fleetwood for when you need to seat six and tow.

Agreed.......the 3.8L may be pretty stout, but in a car the size of a PA, throwing in 6 people doesn't really sound all that good to me either.....

Don't sell the Turbo T/A! Their value has gone $$$$$ in the last 3 years!

If you're looking for comfort for 6 passengers, you'll need to give up on the car idea. Days of the huge boulevard cruisers are gone, and even the Caddies and Buicks and big Mercs are a cramp for 6 people. They're okay for kids and short jaunts, though.

Well, we have 4 kids, 6, 8, 12 and 13 and my wife and I. The FW is ok, but still only for short trips... Which is why it isn't he daily driver for all of us the 99 454 Burban is.... 8 with ease, we really wanted the front leather heated bench, but that is pretty rare.... If I thought I could do the mpg of a NBS truck with a 5.3L I would. But the whole idea is much improved mpg while still keeping a 6 pass in a crunch capability.

This is a real pain of a decision. Spending this much to get better mpg, and with my sort of a drive, having the smaller engine is more sensible, as well as a 1000 lb lighter car... They both add up to better mpg.

I have pondered keeping the FW and work on the TTA and get the 301 Turbo back up and running with a 200 4R and 3.42's and EFI it.... But alas, all costs money and time. Neither which I have much of with a 3 hour daily drive....

Got any picts of the wagon inside? How does it seat 8? Rear facing seat? Any cargo room with the rear seat used?

The wagon has a split bench seat in the front just like the Fleetwood. There are three seat belts in the second row and two seat belts in the last row.

There is minimal storage when all the seats up, there are plenty of cubbies and a locked box back there. Plenty of room available when only the second row is used and if all seats are down it can hold quite a bit.

I do not have any pics of all the seats up in my wagon (I drive with the seats down).

The Limited Roadmaster wagons ('95 & '96) had heated seats as an option. Mine has the premium sound with CD & Cassette, not bad for stock.


Here are some pics I found on the internet:

http://i14.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/ec/01/c8b9_3.JPG


http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/ec/01/c7e6_3.JPG

http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/ec/01/c37d_3.JPG

http://i17.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/ec/01/beee_3.JPG



This is my third Roadmaster wagon. My current one cost me the most (~$5,700 when all was said and done) because of the modifications but the 1996 woody Limited I had with 95k miles cost me only $3,500. I had a Caprice wagon as well, but it lacks the nicer interior and vista roof.

You are more than welcome to drive mine anytime. I am working up in Elgin until the end of May.

Take care,
Elias

I agree with 96Fleetwood. Go with a wagon if you can find one. I don't know how you feel about Dodge, but I really like the Magnums. They aren't all gas hogs either; you can get them with a 6 cylinder. My friend's dad has a '94 Taurus wagon. Its got nearly 220,000 miles but runs like a champ. You can fit 6 people comfortably and 7 if you squeeze 3 across in the middle seat.

But I am concerned that Dodge still doesn't have GM quality... Not when compared to a 3800 or LT1....And it is still a Dodge! :)

The other thing is I am wanting to lean tuning the 3800 and 3800 SC. I have got a lot of learning on the LT1. So doing the L67 would be a new learning experience....And I have all the tools to do it right now. The * I don't, and no one else commercially does. (ok, there is a way, but I am not ready for it...).

I just need better mpg (still 6 seats), and the 3800 has nearly if not better reliability as the LT1.

Where I sit...
I need tires (snows gotta come off....)
Rust fixing.... (over right rear tire, edge of hood and rear bumper)
Mufflers (they are stockkers....)
Fix turn signal arm (just broke, I musta kneed it...)
Got to fix a headlight bulb I messed with on a failed H4 conversion I was trying to do.
2 manifold bolts broken
Front control arm bushings and ball joints, probably steering damper too (shocks are new)
And I have 249800 miles....
I get 19-19.5 mpg on gas, 15.5-17.7 on E85. Not bad, but still expensive. 22 is tops.
But I have a tow package, which is a serious one....


So I am figuring I need a good $1K or more to drop in to it, maybe more like $1500. If I can get some Impala SS wheels, $2K easy.... But I do want them.

I just need to get the monthly costs down, fuel is kicking my pocket book to the tune of if it keeps up I am going to risk my job over it. This is just plain stupid at the pump.

Currently it costs me $0.1636 a mile on E85, and $0.1973 on 87 octane.
The estimated costs on the 3800 SC is $0.1463 a mile to drive on 93 octane, and if I drop in some 60 # injectors, and run E85, that would be around $0.1125 a mile to drive.
It adds up with me driving 35K a year or more. And if I can get mpg like a lot of these guys are on the 3800 SC's, I can do even better yet.

WBBM had a report from some bozo claiming $7 a gallon by 2011..... WTF? That would nearly double my daily driving costs. A car with better mpg would help, and if I could get more work from home, then even better savings.....

It is simply economics.... And It sucks.... If you know the area, I drive from Rockford (real close to the mall in Cherry Valley) to Libertyville (US45 and Winchester road, just south of 137, and just north of 176....) daily. If I drive I90, 75 miles each way. I get better mpg, if no traffic, easier drive. If I take back roads, I get less cruise time, I zig zag back and forth for 65 miles each way. I can narrow it down to 57 miles, but it takes me 2 hours to do it, 30-40 AVERAGE SPEED over that distance, aka, 176, it sucks bad that way.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DHS-DEVILLE-HEATED-LEATHER-84K-DTS-ONE-OWNER-LOADED-STS_W0QQitemZ200218902699QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6146QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I understand your position, but to really make a difference in your pocket book the Northstar and 3800 is pretty pointless and will not save you much. You will save maybe a $500 a year if that. To make a huge difference you need something that gets 30-35 mpg on the highway, none of those vehicles do that. Just add it up, I have done this myself a couple times and the savings were not that impressive.


I think your Fleetwood is tired. It has a quarter of a million miles and has probably paid for itself many times over. The tow package is great if you tow, but really hurts the fuel economy with that gear ratio.

Here is some estimated annual fuel costs (fueleconomy.gov):

Cadillac Fleetwood (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/12872.shtml)
8 cyl, 5.7 L, Automatic 4-spd, Regular 15 24 $2827


Cadillac DeVille (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/15987.shtml)
8 cyl, 4.6 L, Automatic 4-spd, Premium 15 25 $2848


Buick Park Avenue (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/15985.shtml)
6 cyl, 3.8 L, Automatic 4-spd, Regular 17 27 $2543


Buick Park Avenue (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/15986.shtml)
6 cyl, 3.8 L SC, Automatic 4-spd, Premium 16 25 $2848

Buick Roadmaster Wagon
8 cyl, 5.7 L, Automatic 4-spd, Regular 15 24 $2827


For 15,000 miles a year it adds up to virtually no difference between a LT1, 3800 SC, or Northstar. A normally aspirated 3800 will save you a couple hundred, but is that worth it?

Your Fleetwood is recording pretty bad gas mileage. I have the 2.93 rear in my wagon and I am getting around 4 mpg better than you on the highway with 87 octane. Is your driving style aggressive?


Is there a reason why you live so far away from work? That would be the best way to save money IMO.
Just my .02$

No ebay. Take a look around on craigslist. If only I had the $4500. http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/car/656569640.html

No ebay. Take a look around on craigslist. If only I had the $4500. http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/car/656569640.html

I looked at that Fleetwood on Sunday. It has two huge dents on the passenger side front door. The A/C does not work and it was not garage kept. Sad...

I actually have 3.08's in there now, the factory axle is in the backyard waiting to get rebuilt with a posi. I am not overly leadfooted, but I do keep up with traffic (probably enough of leadfooting for that...). So often I will drive on cruise @ 65 and still I don't see anything stellar. I drove from Darien, WI to the Dells, strict 65 mph (night, light traffic) and STILL only got high 21's.

So many of the 3800 SC owners are claiming they get 27-31 on the highway. It is pretty rare to get a LT1 owner to get over 25.

I agree, mine is probably tired (you wouldn't know by driving it, pulls like a freight train, 15.3 @ 93 on TTS Datamaster....)

I am still looking into the datalogs, The area it seems to level some before it comes back up is the injectors approaching 85% duty cycle, they are still too small, so I may still be on the lean side when on the loud pedal... No evidence of lean yet, but still I know it should be....

That was a soft launch, as TTS Datamaster is easily fooled by wheelspin so I had to baby it to not spin at ALL. Look at the power dropoff over 5000 rpm, which is why I don't like the LT1 B/D cam.... Too small. New springs might help, but not as much as it should.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/mompower/Tom/TTS-Dyno.png
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/mompower/Tom/TTS-QuarterMile.png

I'll be honest, the FW is a LOT more fun to drive and mod. The Buick, well, it is a FWD Buick....

I found some Edelbrock LT1 B/D headers for $250 on craigslist (Chicago or Rockford, might be Madison or Milwaukee) new. (keep looking ,I didn't buy them!) and if I could do the heads over with higher compression and some porting might prove a nice improvement in power and mpg. But it takes time, and money, and time is the hardest with my drive for me to get....

Attached is a SS of my cost analysis (I can send if anyone wants to play with it... It it just a spreadsheet) As you can see, my problem is megamiles.... It is like I drive city driving to St. Louis and back every week....

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/mompower/Tom/costanalysis.png

I could see you in a Park Avenue Ultra, not so much a deVille.

Ha! Funny, my wife said the opposite!

She still likes the FW a lot and that is the benchmark and it is hard to find any new car worthy of it... Buick PAU might be Buicks Flagship, but it ain't no Fleetwood! And neither is the Deville.... They, even today, are STILL a class apart, the FW slot is still sadly missing from Cadillac's lineup....

Well, there is the 2000-up S500....

I am only 41 now.... I am not that old now am I?? AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



I could see you in a Park Avenue Ultra, not so much a deVille.

Don't get a W220 (2000-05) S500.....loads of expensive problems, especially on the early ones.
And you can't seat six. :)

That is what I had figured, 5 computers, and they were problematic back in 1999 when they were at the VPC (Vehicle Processing Center) in Aberdeen....

I loved the car, but not sure about them..... Love how we have to pay for factory poor design....

Very interesting logs, neat stuff! We need to meet up and do some tuning on the Wagon.

I doubt any 3800 series will get 27-31 mpg in our traffic. That is the problem with where we live, despite it being highway driving it is more stop and go than anything else. That really hurts the LT1.

I can't think of any solution that will satisfy your needs without giving you a new car payment.. and that will just void any fuel savings.

Here are some interesting wagon finds. You will have the same problem with a wagon though, it is not a Cadillac.. :(

If those 6 door Cadillac Limos were not so bulky, that would be the best bet!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Cadillac-Fleetwood-Six-Door-Limousine-36-000-miles_W0QQitemZ300220350199QQihZ020QQcategoryZ6149 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This one is modded, so gas mileage won't be great:
http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=198388

Stock low miler:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/car/659315339.html

The post '03 W220s are a more reliable car, but they're still ~$30,000. So it's like either late W140, late W220 or a post '96 E38 7 Series.

Righto, that is the problem. I have a budget, no HIGHER than $8K to get something that does better than I have now. My concern too is I have sooo many miles that I am going to start upwards of $$ for repairs. It runs great really, I love it, and that is soooo hard to give up. Remember, I ran a SS Silverado from 0-105 mph uphill (prem gas run) and his front door was at my front bumper 0-70 and my rear bumper was at his front bumper by 105.... The LT1 is NOT a slouch!!!

I had my 3800 in my 91 Bonneville and it got me 25 consistently in the rat race of Rand daily from Darien, WI (got on 12 @ Elkhorn, WI) and got off at Lake Cook Rd. And got 25.... Calculated and consistent. That drive sucked. The car was good for 29-31 on the highway pretty consistently.

So now that I can tune, I can do more with it. And 27-31 is what a lot of people are reporting for highway SC 3800 mpg. So the car I drove, putzing all city, no highway was 20.3 (on the dash...). Cruising instant was showing in the mid to high 30's a lot. If that means much....

I have mentioned a 6 door to my wife as the economy car for the Suburban! We could take trips and such no problem! It would be great, but she doesn't wanna park it!

Why not another LT-1 B/D body? I'm sure you can find many for under $8,000. Or heck, even another 4.9L DeVille/Fleetwood?

... or make a brand switch to this! :eek:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Executive-2002-Lincoln-Town-Car-4-dr-Sedan-Automatic-4_W0QQitemZ290223547790QQihZ019QQcategoryZ31851QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Mercury-Grand-Marquis-GS_W0QQitemZ370044059097QQihZ024QQcategoryZ6340QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#mainimage

I should ban you for even suggesting that, ELIAS! :p

Ok, as some of you know, I drive a lot of miles a year and with gas prices out of hand, I am thinking of selling my 80 Turbo T/A and my 94 Fleetwood and getting a 2000-2005 Deville, preferably a DHS, but the other car in mind is a 98-up Park Avenue/Park Ave Ultra.

Ok, stuck with a need for 6 pass seating (meaning 6 seat belts) Ranger mentioned the 2000-up cars are technically a 5 pass and don't have a seat belt for the middle front. Was that a DHS thing only and Devilles have it?

Is there a reason to go with the Buford over a Cadillac?

mpg is important, looking to get in the mid 20's combo, higher the better. My FW is a tow package car and never has got that good, 22 best. But 3.42's and the LT1 torque sure is fun....
6 pass seating is mandatory. No if ands and buts. Well, 6 butts....

Thoughts? Any other rides I should consider? I do have a strict budget and car payments are not an option...

No rice burners, might consider a beer burner, but that would be hard to accept too, I want my $$ supporting my country somehow...

Only way to get 5 people in the 2000 & up DHS/DTS models is if the 5th person is a child.I`ve tried it in my aunts 2003 DHS.All carmakers have shrunk the interior space of their luxury rides compared to previous generations.

Have you ever considered a Panther chassis Ford? They really were great cars back in the day and I love the look of the 90's Town Cars. They are okay on gas, roughly 16-18 city and 24-27 highway, but are VERY roomy and comfortable. We can easily fit 6 adults, with an unprecedented amount of comfort, in my friend's '94 TC.

But it is a Ford....

The DHS and Deville can both seat 6, the middle front isn't the biggest seat in the world, but the kids are still small enough to fit. Nowdays they are having to put room in between the door and the seat for the airbags.

I am leaning towards the 3800 SC, it can make good power, with minor mods easily beat a N* or LT1 even. And being smaller engine, get potentially better mpg if driven (like I do often in my FWD!). I just hate the idea of going away from Cadillac.... Still GM at least. Still need to look more at the Cad....

Have the 3800 SC owners been able to tune for 87 octane or E85? I know most of those owners are more performance oriented so the gas mileage did not matter as much as modifications and 1/4 mile times. I know premium by me is almost $4.00/gallon!

I put 87 octane in a DTS rental and it did not like it. There was knocking at WOT and the power decreased dramatically. I am guessing it could be tuned for 87 or E85?

I know there is a certain amount of brand loyalty but sadly the Town Car, Grand Marquis, and Crown Vic are all that is left to fill the void after the demise of the B & D bodies.

Did you consider a Town Car Touring? There is a thread about them, seems interesting.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/02-Lincoln-Town-Car-Touring-RWD-Auto-Lthr-Homelink-TC_W0QQitemZ180237665884QQihZ008QQcategoryZ31851QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Can't beat that price for all the options.

Stop....listing.....Fords! :mad: :p

Very true. At the min, I could mix 50% E85/50% gas with larger injectors and still do very well. For under $400 I can get me a set of 60# injectors that would let me support a host of good SC mods....OR E85.... and maybe some of both....

The LTC is a thought, but I can't tune it so no E85. And no fun tuning!

But $ for $ that is a pretty good deal....


Have the 3800 SC owners been able to tune for 87 octane or E85? I know most of those owners are more performance oriented so the gas mileage did not matter as much as modifications and 1/4 mile times. I know premium by me is almost $4.00/gallon!

I put 87 octane in a DTS rental and it did not like it. There was knocking at WOT and the power decreased dramatically. I am guessing it could be tuned for 87 or E85?

I know there is a certain amount of brand loyalty but sadly the Town Car, Grand Marquis, and Crown Vic are all that is left to fill the void after the demise of the B & D bodies.

Stop....listing.....Fords! :mad: :p

This coming from a Mercedes owner. :bouncy:

No similarities. :yup:

Here is one I am going to look at today.

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=22&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=250&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7cE-ANY%7cM-_7_%7cH-%7cD-_57_%7cN-N%7cR-75%7cI-1%7cP-PRICE+descending%7cQ-descending%7cY-_2004-2003-2002-2001-2000_%7cX-popular%7cZ-61109&aff=national&paId=270985868&recnum=44&leadExists=true

Man, that one looks really nice! Go for it!:thumbsup:

You nearby and can take a look? We are going there later today.

It has sunroof, and I have always wanted sunroof! My wife wants red, but they aren't too common at all... She wants me to get a Red Deville, in the red that they did on the 96 STS..... Oh do I wish I could!

I have seen a few Ultra's, but not too many...

Hmmm, that is down South right? If it was a weekend I would be more than glad to meet you down there.


This one has high miles but is red with moonroof:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/car/658657541.html


This one is about 5 minutes from my house:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/car/658265203.html

A few mods on this one:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/car/655207034.html

What did you think of that PAU and how did it stand up against the LT-1 Brougham and the 4.9L deVille you had?

LT1, brute force, down the quarter, it is king... Gonna take a lot to topple that without a bunch of mods. $ for $, the LT1 is awesome.

4.9L, still have better low end torque than the L67. My best was 29.7 mpg on it on the gauge, 28ish calc'd.... I would think the L67 and the 4.9L in a drag race, the 4.9L 0-60 will win, quarter mile maybe not, the 4.9L doesn't have the upper end power....

3800 SC, smooth as butter, far smoother than the LT1 and the 4.9L. And 27-28 mpg for much of the way home, overall nearly 26 and a nice chunk of it city driving and construction traffic. And a couple WOT blasts by the wife.... She is saying I have to keep my Cad, the new car is hers.... NOT!

Well, we did buy the one we found. L67 SC engine, moonroof and HUD.... I am a happy camper....

Congrats!! Post some pictures!

I say sell the Suburban and keep the Fleetwood!! :thumbsup:

Yours has the Bose & Heated seats too?

I told her I wanna sell the Burb and get a 6 door 95-96 Limo for her.... She doesn't wanna park it and 4x4 Fleetwood Limo's are sorta rare....

Schweet, glad to hear it worked out well.

The LT-1 would annihiliate a 4.9L in a drag race. Brian's '94 FWB with the regular 2.93:1 rear end and 176k on it got a 15.33. I think Rick's '93 CDV ran a 15.9 once, but mainly he got low 16's with it.

I bet with your V4P, you would break into the 14's.

You have a choice of FW's here, limo's, 6 door's, even a coach!
http://www.funeralcars.com/LimoDeals.html

I would bet an exhaust and a tune and factory 3.42's would run mid to high 14's all day long. Intake isn't all that bad, but the exhaust is awful....

Schweet, glad to hear it worked out well.

The LT-1 would annihiliate a 4.9L in a drag race. Brian's '94 FWB with the regular 2.93:1 rear end and 176k on it got a 15.33. I think Rick's '93 CDV ran a 15.9 once, but mainly he got low 16's with it.

I bet with your V4P, you would break into the 14's.

So does this mean your getting rid of the FWB?

Probably, don't have much room for 5 cars.... Looking to sell the T/A and the Fleetwood :( I don't wanna at all... But I don't have time to work on them like I want.

The Fleetwood might be a tough sale because the mileage, depending on how much you want for it.

The T/A should be an easy sell, especially on eBay.

Let me know if you need any help.

Personally I would opt for the park avenue, the 3.8L engine is probably one of the best made by gm ever, and its suprisingly good on gas, even with the supercharger. Not to mention you can really mod it out if you get the urge. A park ave will also be alot cheaper to purchase and maintain than a deville.:yeah: 100%. The Park Avenue seems the better choice. Its got reliability, better gas mileage but doesn't look as good. Definatley more sensible.;)

Well, I did pick up a 00 Park Ave Ultra, L67 3800 SC, F41 handling package, Stabillitrak, HUD (Heads Up Display), power moonroof, chrome 16" wheels (and new tires...), leather, rain sensing wipers, heated front seats, memory seats (that do the mirrors, seats AND lumbar), OnStar (ancient Delco/Delphi Gen 2.0 Analog) Homelink, in dash cd and 12 disc trunk changer. So far I can't figure out what this car DOESN'T have. If anyone knows, let me know I am very curious.

So yes, overall I am pretty happy with it, it isn't a Cadillac, and the feel of the car and the smoothness and refinement shows, but in its own right, it is a fine car.

I am getting pretty much right at 25.0 mpg. Still got an occasional punch it, and still a bunch of time in the bumper to bumper traffic for at least 3-4 miles a day.

RPO Code Explanation/Description
AJ7 RESTRAINT SYSTEM SEAT, INFLATABLE, DRIVER & PASS, FRT & SIDE
AM6 SEAT FRT SPLIT BENCH
CF5 ROOF SUN, GLASS, SLIDING, ELEC
CJ2 HVAC SYSTEM AIR CONDITIONER FRT, AUTO TEMP CONT, AUX TEMP CONT
DR2 MIRROR O/S LH & RH, REMOTE CONTROL, ELECTRIC, HEATED, LT SENSITIVE, MANUAL FOLDING, COLOR
D85 STRIPE BODY SIDE LOWER ACCENT
FE9 CERTIFICATION EMISSION, FEDERAL
FR2 RATIO TRANSAXLE FINAL DRIVE 2.93
F41 SUSPENSION SYSTEM FRT, RR, FIRM RIDE, HANDLING
IQ2 TRIM INTERIOR DESIGN (Q2)
JL9 BRAKE SYSTEM PWR, FRT & RR DISC, ANTILOCK, FRT & RR WHL
KG7 GENERATOR 125 AMP
L67 ENGINE GAS, 6 CYL, 3.8L, MFI, V6, SUPERCHARGED
MN7 TRANSMISSION AUTO 4 SPD, HMD, 4T65-E, HEAVY DUTY
MX0 MERCHANDISED TRANS AUTO PROVISIONS, O/D
NF2 EMISSION SYSTEM FEDERAL, TIER 1
NP5 STEERING WHEEL LEATHER WRAPPED
ORN PLANT CODE ORION, MI, USA
P05 WHEEL CHROME, VAR 1
QNX TIRE ALL P225/60R16/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2
R6X OL SALES ITEM NO. 23
UA1 BATTERY HIGH CAPACITY, WET
UB7 CLUSTER INST, OIL, COOL TEMP, VOLTS, TRIP ODOM, TACH, DR INFO CTR
UE1 COMMUNICATION SYSTEM VEHICLE, G.P.S. 1
UN0 RADIO AM/FM STEREO, SEEK/SCAN, CD, AUTO TONE, CLOCK, ETR
UV6 DISPLAY HEADS UP
U1S R MULTIPLE COMPACT DISC
U77 ANTENNA RR WINDOW, RADIO
U99 SPEAKER SYSTEM 9, DUAL F/D 2 TWEET & 2 WOOF, DUAL EXTD RGE RR DRS, DUAL SUBWOOF PKG SHELF, CTR I/P, AMPLIFIER
VH9 OPE OWNER INFO MAN
VK3 LICENSE PLATE FRONT FRT MOUNTING PKG
VM3 LABEL INFORMATION CONSUMER, CONTAINS BPR IMP STANDARD FOR FRT 5 MPH & RR 5 MPH
V73 VEHICLE STATEMENT USA/CANADA
Y56 MERCHANDISED PKG GRAN TOURING
1AY MODIFICATION STOCK
1SE PACKAGE OPTION 05
12U PRIMARY COLOR EXTERIOR, SILVER MET (02)
12U PRIMARY COLOR EXTERIOR, LINEN WHITE (02)
12U PRIMARY COLOR EXTERIOR, GALAXY SILVER MET (02)
12U PRIMARY COLOR EXTERIOR, ARDEN BLUE MICA (02) OPEL
12U PRIMARY COLOR EXTERIOR, KEIZER SILVER (02) HOLDEN
12U PRIMARY COLOR EXTERIOR, SILKY SILVER (02) HOLDEN
171 No Match
172 TRIM COMBINATION LEATHER, CHARCOAL (2) (91)
172 TRIM COMBINATION LEATHER, MED GRAY (2) (97)
6PB COMPONENT FRT LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (6PB)
7PB COMPONENT FRT RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (7PB)
8CW COMPONENT RR LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (8CW)
87A STRIPE COLOR ACCENT, GUNMETAL MET (91)
87A STRIPE COLOR ACCENT, TWO TONE, GREEN/MUSTARD (96)
87A STRIPE COLOR ACCENT, TWO TONE, LT SILVER/MED RED (98)
9CW COMPONENT RR RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (9CW)