: Are There any Hot Rodder's here?



Thomas Carey
04-20-08, 09:28 AM
I am just curious if any of you taking part in this forum are hot rodders or custom car owners who have such cars powered by the Northstar? I have seen them used in a few over the years and I think they are great choice.

Best Regards,

Thomas Carey

JC316
04-20-08, 12:35 PM
AJ has a N* Fiero, but other than him, I don't think that there are many more.

eldorado1
04-20-08, 01:24 PM
My "hotrod": http://www.cardomain.com/ride/758704

IXSLR8
04-20-08, 06:55 PM
My ride is also a Pontiac Fiero, Black 1988 GT T-Top. I'm using a 1996 N* for the engine plant. I'm hoping to be done in the next couple of months.

CadillacSTS42005
04-20-08, 07:12 PM
i know someone also has a Monte Carlo on the board...

AJxtcman
04-20-08, 07:15 PM
My ride is also a Pontiac Fiero, Black 1988 GT T-Top. I'm using a 1996 N* for the engine plant. I'm hoping to be done in the next couple of months.

Working away on it. Boy I have some stories. :banghead:

The harness is very close. I grabbed the wrong terminals, but used some of them. I should have the rest done tonight, but the tune :banghead:

My PC is crashing "ever since" I started adjusting on mine. :crying2:

Submariner409
04-20-08, 09:22 PM
:sneaky:...:sneaky:...:sneaky:... All depends on your age and definition of "Hot Rod(der)". Hot Rod has always been more performance oriented, and covers the range from sleeper to an outrageous, obvious performance modification of a stock car.

.......a custom car would be something built from original and aftermarket parts such that it resembles nothing currently in production or commercially (mass production) obtainable. Custom cars seem to be primarily trailer queens or limited use (car show and home) vehicles.

Urban vehicles with 24" wheels, loud sound systems and neon lights are neither Hot Rods nor Custom Cars. :rolleyes:

Thomas, An engine choice rests in the desire of the builder: There are one heck of a lot more 1964-1972 OHV V-8's and their descendants from 3 or 4 manufacturers in custom use today than all Northstars combined. .....and those engines and parts are plentiful and cheap, not to mention that the aftermarket is absolutely mind-boggling.

If you want to cruise in luxury, clean up a late Cadillac, make it sound good, and enjoy the ride. If you want to scream with the eagles, build a blown 327 '34 Chevy 3-window coupe or a reproduction McLaren/Elva/Chevy. (All the commercial mass production fast cars do not qualify for either Hot Rod or Custom status: anybody can buy one.)

eldorado1
04-20-08, 10:26 PM
i know someone also has a Monte Carlo on the board...

Don't forget the grand prix.... http://www.cardomain.com/id/94customgtp

and the cavalier....
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=46&i=341617&t=336308&p=8

These motors are being stuck in everything. Wasn't there one in a plane???

dkozloski
04-20-08, 11:10 PM
Don't forget the grand prix.... http://www.cardomain.com/id/94customgtp

and the cavalier....
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=46&i=341617&t=336308&p=8

These motors are being stuck in everything. Wasn't there one in a plane???
Bbob gave several talks to the EAA and other groups about using a Northstar in a homebuilt. I've seen a couple of reports on the web that were written up by him on the subject.

Thomas Carey
04-21-08, 02:07 AM
For those of you that choose a Fiero. May ask what it is about that car that attracted you to do something like this?

Best Regards,

Thomas Carey

Highline Cady
04-21-08, 02:15 AM
All the FWD Caddy motors work well in Fieros. Mostly 4.9's and N*'s are popular swaps. Usually Caddy motors and trans.

Thomas Carey
04-21-08, 02:20 AM
:sneaky:...:sneaky:...:sneaky:... All depends on your age and definition of "Hot Rod(der)". Hot Rod has always been more performance oriented, and covers the range from sleeper to an outrageous, obvious performance modification of a stock car.

.......a custom car would be something built from original and aftermarket parts such that it resembles nothing currently in production or commercially (mass production) obtainable. Custom cars seem to be primarily trailer queens or limited use (car show and home) vehicles.

Urban vehicles with 24" wheels, loud sound systems and neon lights are neither Hot Rods nor Custom Cars. :rolleyes:

Thomas, An engine choice rests in the desire of the builder: There are one heck of a lot more 1964-1972 OHV V-8's and their descendants from 3 or 4 manufacturers in custom use today than all Northstars combined. .....and those engines and parts are plentiful and cheap, not to mention that the aftermarket is absolutely mind-boggling.

If you want to cruise in luxury, clean up a late Cadillac, make it sound good, and enjoy the ride. If you want to scream with the eagles, build a blown 327 '34 Chevy 3-window coupe or a reproduction McLaren/Elva/Chevy. (All the commercial mass production fast cars do not qualify for either Hot Rod or Custom status: anybody can buy one.)

My definition is the same as yours actually. =) Though I am only 36. I view a Hot Rod or Custom in the traditional manner. =)

Best Regards,

Thomas Carey

IXSLR8
04-21-08, 02:58 AM
I like the fiero because its a cheap way to get into exotic performance. I think they look nice too.

My first one was a 1987 GT Fastback with a 1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP supercharged motor with mild mods and Haltech Computer. 0-60 mph in 4.9 seconds. Fuel mileage I got was 29 mpg on the freeway.

IXSLR8
04-21-08, 03:00 AM
There's also the MR2 with a Northstar and theres a VW Rabbit or Golf in
Canada with one in it too I believe:

http://www.v8mr2.com/
http://www.cwstuning.com/gallery/coupe-degolf

Thomas Carey
04-21-08, 03:19 AM
There's also the MR2 with a Northstar and theres a VW Rabbit or Golf in
Canada with one in it too I believe:

http://www.v8mr2.com/
http://www.cwstuning.com/gallery/coupe-degolf

An MR2! That must have been one heck of a shoe horn job to get that to fit.

Best Regards,

Thomas Carey

Thomas Carey
04-21-08, 03:20 AM
I like the fiero because its a cheap way to get into exotic performance. I think they look nice too.

My first one was a 1987 GT Fastback with a 1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP supercharged motor with mild mods and Haltech Computer. 0-60 mph in 4.9 seconds. Fuel mileage I got was 29 mpg on the freeway.

Was that first car purchased that way or did you do all the mods? Also what does something like that cost to do?

Best Regards,

Thomas Carey

AJxtcman
04-21-08, 06:51 AM
For those of you that choose a Fiero. May ask what it is about that car that attracted you to do something like this?

Best Regards,

Thomas Carey

Fiero's are junk!
OK at least the ones I have been in. On the other hand I drive Cadillac's every day for the last 4 years and I have been working at dealerships for the last 15 years, so I have been driving newer cars for the last 15 years.
I don't mind driving a 12 second car to work everyday, but I wish that it drove better. From the first time I drove a Fiero (1984 4 cyl) back in 1987 I thought that they drove like crap. I hate a car that pushes. :rant2:

I think my 56 Triumph will drive great with the Northstar in it. I may just scrap the blower on the Fiero and just install it in the Triumph

AJxtcman
04-21-08, 07:18 AM
I think this would look great with a Northstar

Click on the image
http://www.speedway32.com/images/C2_roll_features_09.jpg (http://www.speedway32.com/32Roadster.pdf)

Thomas Carey
04-21-08, 07:26 AM
I think this would look great with a Northstar

Click on the image
http://www.speedway32.com/images/C2_roll_features_09.jpg (http://www.speedway32.com/32Roadster.pdf)

That is exactly what I had in mind. =)

Best Regards,

Thomas Carey

Destroyer
04-21-08, 08:27 AM
That old Ford would look great with this Northstar in it: http://www.chrfab.com/projects.htm

IXSLR8
04-21-08, 10:13 PM
I bought the Fiero in stock condition and did the engine swap. Got the motor from a wrecking yard back east and fabricated brackets and such. I've had about 10 different Fieros and like them a lot. Once you get the hang of the mid engine with regard to the way it handles and steers its a lot of fun. A lot of the problems that the fiero first had have been addressed with aftermarket parts and upgrades.

There are a lot of Fieros out there with many different kind of motors in the engine bay including the Northstar as you already know.

IMSAnorthstar
04-21-08, 10:39 PM
For those of you that choose a Fiero. May ask what it is about that car that attracted you to do something like this?

Best Regards,

Thomas Carey

The challenge I suppose. that, and I was looking for a more "exotic" powerplant for the car than it's previous swap, which was a 4.3 v-6 Chev. (The car started life as an 88 4 cyl coupe). I've also installed a full IMSA body kit, Corvette rotors, built a custom dash, etc. I'm using a basicly stock 98' vin 9 N* along with my own design ITB injection, and controled by a modified GM 7730 ecm. trans is a Fiero 5 speed.
I also have a long term project in the "back yard" which will also be N* powered (inline with 5 speed). it's a 36 Ford slantback which I've shortened ~22", channeled, and will chop. picture one of the Fiat Topolino fuel altereds from the late 50s and you'll pretty much have the concept.

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Submariner409
04-21-08, 10:57 PM
IMSA.......You, Joe Mondello, Al Marcellus, and Matsubara, all in a 1948 AA/Fuel Altered Fiat in 1968. 'Twas fun. Over 200 in less than 7. Most of the 1923 bucket Ford Altereds were nitromethane blown Chryslers, but Mondello did it with Chevy 427's in a Topolino (little mouse). I think the Altereds were just about gone by '73.

RunningOnEMT
04-21-08, 11:11 PM
does this count?

its not a northstar, but it is a chevy engine

http://www.zerorotormotorsports.com/images/570_fc_etfronts1.jpg

IMSAnorthstar
04-21-08, 11:56 PM
Learning this forums method of inserting pics. let's see if this works :thumbsup:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL827/1543635/7976538/112797619.jpg

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well that pic link seems to work fine.... cool.
this is an older photo of the N* in my Fiero, still using the stock injection.

IMSAnorthstar
04-22-08, 12:17 AM
IMSA.......You, Joe Mondello, Al Marcellus, and Matsubara, all in a 1948 AA/Fuel Altered Fiat in 1968. 'Twas fun. Over 200 in less than 7. Most of the 1923 bucket Ford Altereds were nitromethane blown Chryslers, but Mondello did it with Chevy 427's in a Topolino (little mouse). I think the Altereds were just about gone by '73.

You have some good memories there Sub. "IMSA" was still dreaming from the sidelines in 68' and racing go carts on the weekends, but those AA/FA cars were one WILD sight to see go down the track for sure. it took real kahonas to get one of those things down the lane, shiny side up :) .

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