: Any Mercedes buffs here? 1994 C280 question



Blackout
03-24-08, 08:45 PM
My gf's friend is looking to buy a car and she said she found a guy who is selling a 1994 C280 for $3800. I know nothing about these cars so I figured maybe someone on here might know something about them. But are they any good? I see 1994 was the first year for it so I figured that since it's the first year for the body style that there might be issues with it. So if anybody knows anything about them any and all info would be greatly appreciated:thumbsup:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-24-08, 09:16 PM
I've heard from Jesda that that style C Class is superior to the following one (W202?) on all levels. I believe they were the last C Class that had that classic Benz bank vault feel. Other than that, I don't know much about 'em, aside from the C220 was an I-4 and the C280 was V-6. I'll have to ask over on Benzworld for you.

hueterm
03-24-08, 10:33 PM
That version of the C is much better as it's pre-DaimlerChrysler. The C43 AMG from that era is HOT.

EcSTSatic
03-24-08, 10:41 PM
I've owned 2 Mercedes. I would probably drive one today if I could afford one. Parts are expensive. More so than a Caddy.

orconn
03-24-08, 11:30 PM
I take it, from the year and price, that your girl friend is looking for inexpensive transportation. Tell to run ...don't walk away from this Mercedes ...... or any other Mercedes that may cross her path. They are extremely expensive to repair should a little thing or a big thing go bad. They are not good choices for those on tight or limited budgets!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-25-08, 12:09 AM
I simply adore my Benz, but it can get real scary if you're on a tight/limited budget. Trust me.

Jesda
03-25-08, 04:57 AM
The C-class from that era is a very nice, very quiet car. Not quite an E-class, but much closer than its predecessor. The interior is tiny but the build quality is outstanding.

The engine noise can be a tiresome drone and routine maintenance/repair costs are very high. Buy it to fix and enjoy if you have the resources, otherwise get her a first-generation Lexus ES300 instead.

caddycruiser
03-25-08, 09:26 AM
The C-class from that era is a very nice, very quiet car. Not quite an E-class, but much closer than its predecessor. The interior is tiny but the build quality is outstanding.

The engine noise can be a tiresome drone and routine maintenance/repair costs are very high. Buy it to fix and enjoy if you have the resources, otherwise get her a first-generation Lexus ES300 instead.

And there I think we have it, very succinctly:thumbsup:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-25-08, 03:02 PM
Here's what they say over on Benzworld.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w202-c-class/1368649-friend-looking-94-c280.html

Blackout
03-25-08, 04:07 PM
Here's what they say over on Benzworld.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w202-c-class/1368649-friend-looking-94-c280.html

Sweet man! Thanks for your help

concorso
03-25-08, 04:31 PM
So the late 80's to early 90's are the older Mercedes you want? Is this true for C, E and S classes?

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-25-08, 04:40 PM
To sum it up, the pre Chrysler Benzes are the ones you want to buy if you want the most reliable, durable, solid model.

Jesda
03-25-08, 04:49 PM
DaimlerChrysler MBs are also the least satisfying to drive and own.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-25-08, 05:05 PM
But the DC Benzes do have more electronic goodies to play around with.

danbuc
03-25-08, 06:37 PM
I fit has over 50k miles on it, it's probably gonna give you trouble. Coils like to go bad on them, as do front lower ball joints, and the steering shock. Plenty of oil leaks to go around usually too. If you picked it up, I would replace the fuel filter asap. Not many people like to do so, and a lot of tech neglect to sell them. They are grossly underpowered but if your willing to spend the money, they can last 150k miles.

On a side note, I've got a set of h&r lowering springs for the 202 chassis that I pulled off some guy's C43 who wanted his original springs re-installed. Never asked for them back. They do require the use of front camber adjustment bolt in the lover control arms though.

They're really hit and miss. Some last forever, and others last 50k miles....regardless of maintenance or driving style. I would recommend staying far away from any older 'low end' Mercedes. They're just a ticking time bomb waiting to go ff in your wallet.

Night Wolf
03-26-08, 07:21 AM
I've still got a thing for turbo diesel W126...

96Fleetwood
03-26-08, 09:49 AM
So the late 80's to early 90's are the older Mercedes you want? Is this true for C, E and S classes?

Not exactly... my '89 560 SEL was a money pit. The 560 was ahead of its time and as they get older that technology goes bad and it is not cheap.

The other models seem to be fairly reliable.. especially the 300E and its 2.6 liter counterpart.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-26-08, 01:15 PM
Not exactly... my '89 560 SEL was a money pit. The 560 was ahead of its time and as they get older that technology goes bad and it is not cheap.

You had a 560SEL?? Wow, cool!


I've still got a thing for turbo diesel W126...


Buy one.....!!

96Fleetwood
03-26-08, 03:41 PM
You had a 560SEL?? Wow, cool!


Yep, it was a little over 4 years ago.. I bought it from a physician I was working with in Norfolk. It was Midnight blue with Palomino & the chrome wheels, I will try to dig up a picture.

I sold it to a guy in upstate NY and he blew the motor up by not changing the thermostat :thepan:

I have a love for those cars, probably because I grew up around them. My Dad purchased a '84 500 SEL, '86 420 SEL, and 1991 560 SEL all new before he bought a '93 750iL. They are amazing cars and some heads of state still swear by them.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-26-08, 03:43 PM
They're amazing cars....some would say the last of the true Benzes. The build quality and durability is insane....we got an '88 420SEL traded in at work a few months ago, and I sat in it, and even after twenty years, it still feels new. I don't think any 1988 Cadillac or Lincoln would feel like that.

Beautifiul, beautifiul cars. Maybe better looking than the 140?

Cadillacboy
03-26-08, 04:01 PM
Nope, W140 is the best looking MB following by W220 ,
W140FTW ;)

Cadillacboy
03-26-08, 04:07 PM
Hey Elias, whenever you have some time I would like to see some pics of your '96 Fleetwood next to Jaguar XJ8 ,screw W126 pics lol

hueterm
03-27-08, 01:19 AM
Chad, what's the story on the Benz forum about the W126 SEC? Nightmare? Holy Grail?

96Fleetwood
03-27-08, 09:28 AM
Hey Elias, whenever you have some time I would like to see some pics of your '96 Fleetwood next to Jaguar XJ8 ,screw W126 pics lol

Here you go... this is when I lived in Miami (I can't wait to move back):

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Image125.jpg

Cadillacboy
03-27-08, 02:55 PM
Here you go... this is when I lived in Miami (I can't wait to move back):

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Image125.jpg

Thanks :highfive:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-27-08, 04:35 PM
That Jag looks rather small parked next to the Brougham.

Destroyer
03-28-08, 06:27 PM
Chad, what's the story on the Benz forum about the W126 SEC? Nightmare? Holy Grail?
I've owned both a W126 and a W140. The W140 is the nicer of the two IMO but I really like the 560 SEC. Anyway reliability-wise the W126 is solid. It is an old car though and will break, when it does you will be reminded that this is a flagship Benz you have and not the $5k car you paid for. Between the W140 and the W126 it is said that the W126 is less prone to give problems. I never had issues with either, not substantial anyway but I didn't own either all that long.

hueterm
03-28-08, 09:03 PM
I'd like one of both, but I'd be more inclined to have the W126 as a low miles/yr toy and a W140 as a 10K/year semi daily driver.... The problem is that I don't have the space now for a "toy" and a W140 that I could reliably dump 10K/year on would still be a mint...

Blackout
03-28-08, 10:22 PM
Well after trying my best to talk her out of buying it she went ahead anyways and bought it. So I can't wait for the first thing to break on it so I can lulz in her face

Night Wolf
03-29-08, 05:19 AM
300SDL ..... just the way I'd like one :)

I've got a thing for the turbo diesels (well, diesels in general too) it stinks tho that their price is inflated just because they are diesel, tho with diesel being more then gasoline now maybe thats changed. The gas versions are cheaper, but being a diesel is part of the reason I like them so much.... and they just look darn good!

Just stinks the interior is as bad as it is. Probably something that growns on you over time tho.

http://www.jwfloormercedesclassics.com/Cars/image.php?productid=58

I just like the big bold boxy look, sorta like my Town Car, they share very similar lines IMO. The later years of the W126 (with the better headlights) look pretty amazing... tail lights and the back end in general are quite bland, but it seems like most all older European (and Japanese) cars are like that.

96Fleetwood
03-29-08, 09:32 AM
What about a 1991 350 SDL? Much more powerful and you get the better updated interior :thumbsup:

http://www.jaimekop.com/240D/scans/350SDL.jpg

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-29-08, 10:23 AM
The W126 has that low, long lean look that the 77-92 Broughams have, and to an extent, the 90-97 Town Cars. Like the 93-96 Brougham and 98+ Town Car, the W140 got bigger, taller and fatter than it's predecessors.

Rick, the W126 got a nice interior update in '89 or '90 and it looked a lot less sterile and a lot more plush and "American".

Night Wolf
03-29-08, 03:37 PM
Yeah, I remembered about the interior update towards the very end.... I'll have to look into it more again.... Heh, this time about 2 years ago I was going crazy over these things as I was sure I was going to get one, so I was doing all my research on them.

the 350SDL is more powerful, but I remember asking about that ont he MB forum, and for some reason everyone said the 300 version is more relible, something with the 350 and EGR and if not taken care of by previous owners, it'll give lots of trouble.

Chad, I'll have to agree with that statement about the cars, I think thats pretty much the same view point I have... maybe sorta why all 3 of those cars really appeal to me? sorta like a tank on wheels :)

Heh, just as I was filling up with gas before I left for my parents place last weekend a W126 pulls up next to me, I guess thats sorta what rekindled my passion for them... car was in real nice shape except for some door dings ont he passenger side :( I asked if it was a diesel, but then I realized there was no diesel at this particular pump :o It was an older guy, seemed English sorta, I was like thats a really nice car, he goes the Jag...errr....Mercedes-Benz? I said yeah, I've always like them. He said it was 17 years old and he bought it new, it was beige. He said he also has a Jaguar at home that is 25 years old and British Racing Green that is in mint condition, then said that he is an older guy and has an older taste in cars, but I assured him I have a similar taste in cars as well :).... guess he likes the older European cars. I wonder if he lives here or not, this particular town isn't very big, but I don't think I've seen the car before, would have been cool to talk to him more about it and the Jag, he seemed really interested in them.