: Best Line to Piss off a RICER



cruzajc1
05-23-04, 09:37 AM
This jack@ss in a small CRX with a tin trash can exhaust keeps zipping in and out of traffic and cut me off so I finally get side by side with this guy (His license plate in Valdosta, GA is "COOL" can you believe that! Anyways, I get side by side with him and of course we are in city traffic so he floors it and thinks he is beating me because I don't punch it do to the heavy traffic in front of me. Anyway, I finally get side by side with him and I tell him my ricer line.... I say ...."Nice Car (pause) he says thanks and I say "My little sister has one" hehehe, I know its inmature, but me and a friend of mine just laughed as he did his ricer flyby after he knew we were making fun of him. Stupid CRX, I would have used his lawnmowere engine to trim my grass:):devil: :want: I'll never grow up at this rate:)

speedyman_2
05-23-04, 12:45 PM
hahah I hate the ricers too. I'm usually at anti-rice.com
That site is hilarious. Post pics of ricers, point, and laugh.:rolleyes2
I've had plenty of ricer fly-bys. I also had one attempt a fly by. But, I left him before he could "fly by".

PhillyCaddy
05-23-04, 08:37 PM
I understand what you mean about ricers. they are nothing but a pain if a young kid is behind the wheel. I belong to a all Jeep forum also and man you should see what they say about ricers also. 90% of them would like to make the ricer's car some good 4wheeling road track and that includes me. it is a jeep thing. now caddy also.

cruzajc1
05-23-04, 09:51 PM
Yea, they piss me off and are usually unsafe. Still, I like to make fun of them any chance i get:)


Gus


I understand what you mean about ricers. they are nothing but a pain if a young kid is behind the wheel. I belong to a all Jeep forum also and man you should see what they say about ricers also. 90% of them would like to make the ricer's car some good 4wheeling road track and that includes me. it is a jeep thing. now caddy also.

86Barritz
05-23-04, 10:06 PM
Ricers are funny they hate it when u roll up in your caddy on Daytons all the girls love it :worship: hahahaha

caddyshack24
05-23-04, 10:59 PM
Add one for the "Anti-Rice" movement..
Can't stand these damn things.

Saw a Ford Mustang with "I Rape Ricers" on the back window.
Another was "My Mt. Dew has more cubic inchs than your honda"
or something to that effect.

And yes, the ladies love the caddie :D

Swangin-&-Bangin
05-23-04, 11:01 PM
Stop hating on the ricers.. Different strokes for different folks... I am a member or both communities.. I own a 03 DTS as well as a souped up Acura... I love both of them and I have fun in both of them.. They both have their good and bad points.

speedyman_2
05-23-04, 11:03 PM
Yes, most people are impressed with the Caddy. Some are not. Like the arrogant ricers. They have no concept of "torque". Until I leave em at the line. Or if they do jump the line I end up catching them very quickly going :tisk:.

BoostMasterK
05-23-04, 11:42 PM
A friend got me a shirt, something like "my lug nuts have more torque than your Honda".

Bangin you dangled it out there so I have to ask, what is "souped up" in your Acura? :D


All in good fun,

Mike

Sandy
05-23-04, 11:49 PM
" ... You say your car's got 1.8 liters? Ha ha ha, my Coke is 2 liters ! :bouncy:

gust_1980
05-24-04, 04:34 PM
ricers do suck! but, its the ricers who are irresponsible drivers and make their cars look like ass. when somebody makes fun of ricers i think we all know who we are talking about. some imports are pretty baddass..........just dont put super-gay wings on them or exhausts that were made my Folgers or some shit. peace.

D148L0
05-24-04, 06:05 PM
just dont put super-gay wings on them.
How can a wing be "super-gay"??

I think of them as useless, tasteless, ridiculous, and quite some more adjectives, but, "super-gay"? would you be kind enough to explain it to me?

K2K
05-24-04, 06:28 PM
They *really* enjoy the company of other spoilers?

K2K
05-24-04, 06:32 PM
Stop hating on the ricers.. Different strokes for different folks... I am a member or both communities.. I own a 03 DTS as well as a souped up Acura... I love both of them and I have fun in both of them.. They both have their good and bad points.

And we aren't insulting stock Hondas or Acuras, or Hondas or Acuras (or other imports) that are actually fast, however rare that is.

The definition of a ricer is some one who "puts the advertisement of speed and racing quality before the actual installation of performance enhancing parts."

If your car actually has the double camshaft and owns more Mustangs in the 0-60 then you should be talking here, because you have a very formidable and cool car. We're just insulting people who put on a 3 foot spoiler, straight shooter mufflers (or lack there of) on a car without the VTec or a single cammy engine - the cars that just look and sound fast, but really suck in reality.

Swangin-&-Bangin
05-25-04, 12:05 AM
A friend got me a shirt, something like "my lug nuts have more torque than your Honda".

Bangin you dangled it out there so I have to ask, what is "souped up" in your Acura? :D


All in good fun,

Mike
My "Souped Up" 95 Acura Legend Coupe
Some of the mods are....
9006 6000K HID Conversion
Weapon R Cold Air Intake
Weapon R Cold Air Box
Weapon R Ram Air
Brembro Cross Drilled Brake Rotors
Ground Control Coil Over Kit
Eibach Race Springs
Koni Red Shocks
SPC Performance Adjustable Ball Joint (Camber Correction)
18" Katana Destiny Rims
215/40/18 Pirelli P7000 Tires
Remus Exhaust
MLS Strut Tower Bar
Bayou Stage II Performance Chip

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/518000-518999/518184_20_full.jpg

IXLR8se-r
05-25-04, 02:43 AM
This thread is becoming quite interesting. well i might as well throw in my 2 cents, we own a 1998 STS, I have a 1997 nissan 200sx se-r, very clean no stickers no loud exhaust however underneath lurks the ever famous SR20DE, which is sporting 266 degree cams which barely allow it to idle at a redlight. anyway, not all imports are bad, not all import car drivers are immature and stupid behind the wheel.


http://www.jdmintegra.com/featured/0503/mike1.jpg

http://cs.widener.edu/~epanek/MikesGSRDyno.mpg



http://www.boosted-hybrid.com/dynos/mikegsr515.jpg



Above is a 2001 Acura Integra GSR, very clean looking car, well that integra has 515whp. approx. 600 crank horsepower. My friend owns this car, and this car was built for strict track purposes. So watch who you pick on, more and more of these are showing up on the streets every day

More info on this car here:

http://http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=646620&page=1

Randy_W
05-25-04, 07:52 AM
Some of these cars and engines have a very high specific output, however pound for pound and dollar for dollar, if you spend the same amount on an LS-1 Firebird or equivilent, the V/8 will ALWAYS,ALWAYS be faster. Some highly modified or factory turbo or supercharged imports will run with the LS-1's, but they cost a lot more. If you bolt a supercharger kit on the LS-1, along with a little head work and a good cam, it will make more h.p. than your friends Acura for a lot less money! It will also sound like a real car!!!:lildevil:

cruzajc1
05-25-04, 08:37 AM
I hate to say it, but I am not impressed with your chart. Many of these ricers are called DYNO QUEENS because they register well on a machine, but when they get on the street or track, they don't hook well and usually get stomped on by a slightly modified V8.


Gus
agustin.cruz@moody.af.mil
cruzajc1@aol.com

K2K
05-25-04, 10:50 AM
This thread is becoming quite interesting. well i might as well throw in my 2 cents, we own a 1998 STS, I have a 1997 nissan 200sx se-r, very clean no stickers no loud exhaust however underneath lurks the ever famous SR20DE, which is sporting 266 degree cams which barely allow it to idle at a redlight. anyway, not all imports are bad, not all import car drivers are immature and stupid behind the wheel.


http://www.jdmintegra.com/featured/0503/mike1.jpg

http://cs.widener.edu/~epanek/MikesGSRDyno.mpg



http://www.boosted-hybrid.com/dynos/mikegsr515.jpg



Above is a 2001 Acura Integra GSR, very clean looking car, well that integra has 515whp. approx. 600 crank horsepower. My friend owns this car, and this car was built for strict track purposes. So watch who you pick on, more and more of these are showing up on the streets every day

More info on this car here:

http://http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=646620&page=1


If his car is actually that fast on the street, then it's not really a rice car, 'cept for that giant ass spoiler which adds no performance whatsoever. The chart however, does not really prove as much as vids or 0-60 times or race receipts, and even then, it can still definitely be called rice. Only way for someone to declare a car truely fast is to pull up next to it at a stop light - no charts or graphs, just flat out racing.

K2K
05-25-04, 10:58 AM
Traits of a ricer :)

You have more exhaust decibels than your engine has horsepower.

You have aftermarket FRONT wheels for racing but stock rear wheels.

Your engine makes twice as much horsepower as torque.

17" rims up front, 13" out back on your FWD.

You ever painted your wheels to match the same color of your car.

You put your automatic car in neutral at every stoplight in order to roll it back and try to fool other people into thinking you have a manual transmission

DuPont gave up trying to figure out the shade you were asking for.

Your mod list includes stereo equipment, shifter handle, MOMO steering wheel, PIA driving lights, exhaust tip, but no REAL engine parts.

A chameleon lizard undergoes fewer shade changes than your custom paint scheme.

Your rims and tires are so large, that you have to install the tire / wheel from underneath the car because it simply won't fit in the wheel well going in from the side.

The dealer laughs when you bring your car back in for service under warranty, and you've only had it 6 months...

Your tires / rims stick out from the lip of your car by more than 1."

Your paint job is from the WRONG end of the color spectrum.

You installed spacers on your STOCK wheels and tires to get them to stick out past the fender.

You see cars like yours in a Shriner's Parade for Children and clowns are driving them.

You bring an empty Maxwell House coffee can with you to compare size when you shop for an aftermarket exhaust system.

Your Eclipse GS-T hardtop has a "SPYDER" emblem on the rear...

Your sum knowledge of suspension is: "the more negative camber, the better the handling."

You push your car through the staging lanes.* That way, maybe you can break into the 16s by keeping the motor cool between runs.

You add a super tall rear wing, and a hundred pounds of aftermarket ground effects, neon and stereo yet you gut the interior and yank out the rear seat for weight savings.

Your rear wing AND your rear window have a third mount brake light...

The back lighting in the gauges in your A-pillar gauge pod work long before the actual gauges are hooked up.

You cut 4 coil springs and scrape the chassis on the ground. Sparks are cool when you corner at normal traffic speeds!

You have to find a way to drive AROUND speed bumps in a parking lot.

You install clear corner and brake lights.

You install colored bulbs in your aftermarket clear lenses.

You ever put neon on the bottom of your car, and then busted it on the first speed bump you went over.

You painted the UNDERBODY of your car to match

If your rear spoiler is taller then you are.

if you can fit fist **** your exhaust tip

You have more stereo WATTS than engine TORQUE!

If your tailpipe extension is the most expensive mod you’ve done to your engine yet.

Your tailpipe extension fell off during a quarter mile race and you went three tenths of a second faster due to weight savings.

EVERY car in your class has a turbo pushing double digits worth of boost.

You spent $5,000 on the engine and you can not out run a stock Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang

You want the 'wastegate' sound, but don't want to install a turbocharger system.

You think Nitrous Oxide on your Hyundai Sonata puts you in the same performance league as the Chevy Corvette.

The automatic version of your car runs 2 seconds slower in the 1/4mile.

If the 1970 Plymouth Daytona Superbird has a smaller spoiler than your car does.

You think the Del Sol is a sports car...

A torque converter does NOTHING for your car.

You think a deep farty noise = the sound of high performance

If you think that horsepower is far more important than torque

If you have ever claimed that switching to a cone filter has given you more than 5 HP.

If you have ever considered installing more than one set of fog / driving lights.

If you claim that the aftermarket cold air intake system you just installed doubled your horsepower or took 2 or more seconds off of your E/T.

Your baseball cap is always on backwards when you drive (the first sign of mental retardation, wearing your clothes backwards... BE).

You spent all night on the Internet trying to find a company that makes a turbocharger system for your Hyundai...

If you removed your side view mirrors and put them at the TOP of the door / window frame.

If you think the Fugees are 'speed' music.

MOMO is 'absolutely required' to go fast.

Your four cylinder has a dual exhaust system installed.

Your four cylinder has four exhaust pipes ("Hey, one for each cylinder!")

The color of your interior upholstery hurts the cones and rods in other people's eyes.

If you cannot drive your car in snow as the ground effects create a plow effect.

If you have installed driving lights to compensate for headlight blackouts / tape.

If you think that 180 horsepower and 185 lb/ft of torque are impressive for a ‘mildly’ modified engine.

If you have stickers on your car for parts that you could not point out if asked where those parts are installed.

You think pushrods are a bad thing…

Your car has more decals than you do the quarter in seconds.

Every Honda you EVER owned, all the way back to your 1978 Accord was either a V-Tec or a TYPE-R.

You took your rear seat out and gutted your interior for weight savings but you installed 400 pounds of electronics, neon, DVD, Sony, etc.

If you gutted the interior to save weight on a car that you will never take to the track…

You lean your seat so far back when you are driving, that every time you hit a bump, its your back and not your butt that hurts.

You have hydraulics and sixteen switches on a car you claim runs low 10s on the street and corners better than a Porsche.

If you can estimate that your car makes more than 250 HP without ever running it at the track or getting a dyno reading.

You claim that you can get a titanium block for your engine.

If you have ever thought Hyundai and "performance" went hand in hand

If you've ever gone to a parts shop or speed warehouse and asked for a 1" to 6" exhaust adapter...

If you've ever contemplated adding "TYPE-R" stickers to your Sonata…

If you've removed more than 1/2 of the coils from your springs by cutting them yourself ...

If you have more neon lights on your car than a strip club...

You put Kanji on your Ford ZX2, Ford Probe, or Mercury Cougar ...

You own a "TYPE-R" Hyundai or Mazda.

You couldn't afford headlight masking, so you just painted them with flat black Krylon and it's peeling.* Badly.

You claim that polishing your intake gave you 5hp.

You own a V-TEC Hyundai or Mazda (especially a V-TEC rotary engined Mazda RX-7)

You have neon INSIDE your car or in your ENGINE compartment

You ever claimed that high gas mileage made your car superior in performance to V8s.

If it takes you 8000rpm to reach 30mph from a dead stop at WOT.

You think yellow plastic interior trim makes your car cool

You spend $500 for a giant hand welded tube for a muffler with the weld marks extremely visible

If you paint your drum brakes to simulate Hi-po calipers

If you install fake hi-po caliper / disc simulators

You have a front wing.

If you lower your car and add ground effects but retain the stock 14inch wheels with disc style wheel covers

If you equate the sound of performance with the sound of a Weed Eater™

If you think bolting a fake muffler to one side to simulate dual exhaust is cool

If you think colored head lights work better

Clear tail lights and turn signals. They’re colored for a REASON!

If you take mom's 4 door Honda accord and do any kind of mod to it

You drive a Ford Escort station wagon with Kanji, wide tires, and Limp Bizkit stickers on the rear hatch

You claim you lost the race because you had a passenger in the car.

You claim how if you went from a roll you would have beat him.

You claim you lost because you missed a shift... and your car is an automatic.

You claim you lost because he must have been on the juice..

Flying past the person who is 10 car lengths in front of you after they have put on their brakes.. and claim a victory.

after losing you flip your opponent off... rev your motor and fail to break the wheels loose even around a corner.
Tell everyone about how you lost the cop because of your "driving skills."
you are a white kid driving an import.. wear baggy pants/hat turned around, walk with a fake limp and end every sentence with "yew know wha I'm sayin?* Relate."
Your idea of aiming a handgun is raising your arm over your head, pointing the gun away from you, and then just letting your wrist fall to the side to where the gun is almost sideways ...
drive around in a $20,000 import with $10,000 in mods.. and still live with your parents.
You can relate to every line of the song "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" by the Offspring
you take offense when I say.. "your sister is like your car.. small, tight and hard to get into."
You are a skinny, backwards hat wearing, dog chain wallet, 2 ft wide pants leg, Limp Bizkit looking white boy *** with a badly applied peroxide hair color treatment *and temporary rub-on tattoos!
You've spent more on graphics and decals than you have in gas, for the whole year
You sound like you're going 90, but you're creeping past 25
You upgraded to the "big bore" 2 inch exhaust
You lose 2 mpg by installing a body kit
Your wing is so large that if you go faster than 65, your bumper drags
You think "displacement" is something that happens to homeless people
Yugo's give you a run for the money
You continuously run red lights because they are invisible thru your red window tint
15's are considered HUGE rims
You can reach back and defrost the rear window by hand
You will race anyone, anytime, and already know that you will lose
You think Moby is one of the greatest composers of our time
You spend all your money pimping it out because spending money to make it faster is a waste
Your little sister is the only one impressed with your car
When you win a race, you don't really win, it's just that the other guy felt soooo sorry for you
You think your mom's Corolla is fast
The cross section of your exhaust tip is bigger than the contact patch of your tires
Your aftermarket tach is bigger than your fist
You bought the big ass tach to try to scare off the fast cars
But all it does is let people know how hard you have to push it to exceed the legal speed limit
You rev on school busses
Hell, you rev on people in electric wheelchairs
You buy and install custom rims a pair at a time
YOU REALIZE THAT ALL OF THE ABOVE IS TRUE AND YOU STILL THINK YOU'RE COOL!!!
You've entered a 12 step program called "How to come to terms with your limitations"
The bill of your hat gets caught when you roll the window up
You really want to kick my ass right now
You cut 2" holes in your rear bumper and don't know what they're for
You cut 2" holes in your rear bumper and DO know what they're for
You go to the auto paint store and pick out the most retina burning color you can find
You buy race gas to drop you from 17.02 to 16.9 in the quarter, and then tell all your friends how fast you went
You add a second battery to power all the neon, and the mini disco ball
You add a wing on TOP of your car, 'cause wagons need down force too
You've ever painted bare, raw fiberglass black and said "Look! It's just like carbon fiber!"
You get pimped out props from the mini truck crowd
You still only get dates from high school girls
You actually own a pair of light up glasses from Checker Auto
When you install your super phat wing, you put the pointy ends up
You purchase and install a body kit, one piece at a time
You saw the "Rice Boy" magazine in the back of Sport Compact, and inquired about a subscription
Your brother is pissed cause you stole the muffler off his dirt bike (it was a direct fit!)
Your dad is worried cause you bought a car with less displacement than his lawnmower

gust_1980
05-25-04, 12:09 PM
wow, i cant believe i just read all of that. looks like we have a true-blue rice hater here.

Swangin-&-Bangin
05-25-04, 12:55 PM
Me personally... I have more fun driving my Acura Legend than I do my DTS.. If you have never experienced the feel of driving a stiffened & tuned suspension you would not understand. My Acura turns as if it was on rails. The DTS damn near drives itself, and I don’t really feel the road, nor will it turn on a dime. But that is why I bought a Cadillac, for the “luxury feel” not the “performance feel”. Sometimes I want that disconnected luxury feel, sometimes I want the hard stiff suspension. I wouldn’t give one for the other.. I love my Ricer (95 Acura Legend) and my American Land Yacht (03 DTS), I wouldn’t trade them for the world.

Diefer
05-25-04, 01:46 PM
K2K I can't thank you enough for giving me the best laugh in a long time

:crying: <----with laughter
We have exactly the same here in the UK, lil kiddies in their Vauxhall Nova's ( tiny euro box..creation) that's got more body mods than Lolo Ferarri. There's a well known High Street Auto store in the UK called Halfords that have recently bought out another vehicle mod' company called RipSpeed, we see these ricers and say that they ramraided the store and drove thru and what ever stuck to the car is there. Even with my 95 SLS with the ABS and Traction not working......putting the vehicle into 'limp home mode' I still have these guys at the lights....I do slow down a quarter of mile on to let them catch up...that's if they haven't turned off somewhere in embarresment.

it's all good fun thou:devil:

BeelzeBob
05-25-04, 02:26 PM
I usually don't pay too much attention to the ricers but since I've been driving a Saturn Ion Red Line the last few days (supercharged EcoTec) I keep looking for ricers to race..... None of the weenies will ever race the Ion. What a disappointment. I think most of them shot their wad on the wheels and tires and wing and stereo and have no motor.... At least guys with jacked up Camaros will race you. LOL

STS 310
05-25-04, 03:02 PM
Some of that was actually funny.

Dubya
05-25-04, 06:08 PM
that legend isn't rice, unless its got a coffe can and goes BUZZZZZZZZZ BUZZZZZZZ WUSHHHHH BUZZZZZZZZ, i think its tasteful. doesn't have a ton of mods, but id doesn't advertise that it does

stick a huge wing, stickers, drop the rims for some hubcabs w/spinners, get rid of the HID for some blue bulbs and you'll have rice

STS 310
05-25-04, 07:01 PM
Hubcaps with spinners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I almost died when i saw those the other day. I then actually felt real bad for the guy, as he really thought his ride was smooth. Oh well, they say ignorance is bliss!!!!!!!!!! That scene definately supported the theory.

caddydaddy
05-25-04, 09:37 PM
The funniest car I saw with spinner hubcaps was a brick red 1985 Volvo 240 Wagon! It had the big 4 in it with 114 HP! Oh yeah!!!!!!
Then on the other side, I've seen quite a few on Escalades that were at least 22 inches!! They probably paid more for them than I did for several of my Caddys put together!

capn
05-25-04, 10:06 PM
well look at it this way guys i drive a cadillac eldorado N* and its real fast

BUT i also drive a honda, which i like more cause of its "rail like suspension" and its better gas mileage. its just preference really and the fact that hondas and stuff get beat by V8s and all these other HUGE diplacement cars is that very reason, DISPLACEMENT, thats why they are beaten.

my definition of rice: one who steps out of his/her class of vehicle and power range thinking that they can beat the higher class one with mods that wont equate to same power.

so i mean my 180hp civic prolly will NEVER beat a heafty V8 and never be able to have the same potential. but i mean i can still kick my caddys ass in accel but thats because the civic is only 2300lbs and it has the high revving motor.

Also i dont remember who said that the single cam Vtecs are harmless or whatever think again man. how many cams do ohv V8s have? ONE but the reason they get more power is displacement. and i have some buddies that the SOHC Vtec engines will do a pleasant 9 in the 1/4. so dont dismiss them just yet.

But also another for the V8s there is a limit to the streatable power of FWD hondas and such i have a video of a HIGHLY and i do mean HIGHLY modded CRX that was keeping up with a pretty much stock Z28 so yes there is a limit to small displacement HP and so on but V8s and rwd will ALWAYS rule the road.. BUT THE TRACK IS OURS ! hahahahhah

BoostMasterK
05-25-04, 10:31 PM
My "Souped Up" 95 Acura Legend Coupe
Some of the mods are....
9006 6000K HID Conversion

Swangin I'll give you credit, there's some performance stuff on that list and it doesn't look ridiculous like most rice. What does it run compared to a stock Legend?


Mike

lowscola
05-26-04, 05:06 PM
Me personally... I have more fun driving my Acura Legend than I do my DTS.. If you have never experienced the feel of driving a stiffened & tuned suspension you would not understand. My Acura turns as if it was on rails. The DTS damn near drives itself, and I don’t really feel the road, nor will it turn on a dime. But that is why I bought a Cadillac, for the “luxury feel” not the “performance feel”. Sometimes I want that disconnected luxury feel, sometimes I want the hard stiff suspension. I wouldn’t give one for the other.. I love my Ricer (95 Acura Legend) and my American Land Yacht (03 DTS), I wouldn’t trade them for the world.

When you first said a riced out acura I assumed you had an integra or something... That Legend is no were near being riced out. When I think of riced out cars I usually think of small cars.

But you all better look out, some of those little cars are doing big numbers though. How embarrassing would it be to get your doors blown off by a Dodge Neon SRT4. That neon will take a few performance sedans and some sports cars to

Swangin-&-Bangin
05-26-04, 07:14 PM
I guess I had the definition of "Rice" misunderstood. I thought that when a person spoke of "Ricers" I thought they were talking about any Japanese made automobile with aftermarket performance parts on it.

I haven’t raced my Acura on the strip in over 5 years. Honestly I don’t know what I run in the quarter mile. But the speed isn't what I like most about my Acura, it's the handling that I love!!! It's great to be able to take turns at +75Mph with out using the brakes. I also believe that I have avoided many accidents and mishaps while driving the Acura instead of the Cadillac due to the enhanced braking power and high speed maneuverability that the Acura has over the Cadillac..

K2K
05-26-04, 08:19 PM
I guess I had the definition of "Rice" misunderstood. I thought that when a person spoke of "Ricers" I thought they were talking about any Japanese made automobile with aftermarket performance parts on it.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ricer&f=1


Just to clear things up for everyone :)

etcCanuck
05-26-04, 09:53 PM
and i have some buddies that the SOHC Vtec engines will do a pleasant 9 in the 1/4. so dont dismiss them just yet.

What the hell kind of fuel are your "buddies" running... nitro? (not nitrous)

Stoneage_Caddy
05-26-04, 10:42 PM
a single cam vtec in the 9s ?

when i was involoved with imports it was very hard to break into the 9s with anything front drive because of halfshaft issues

and single cam vetc in the 9s alone ? not doubting , ive been out for 2 years now , so do tell

Im still thinking of getting another SR20 to play with , all these DET parts laying around in the garage are killing me . Wish i never took the G20 to work that day .......

67SupRFlyCoupe
05-27-04, 03:08 AM
Well Im an Ex Ricer, I had a 94 Honda Civic, riced out, though I knew it wasnt fast, I was into the more show than go phase. heres a link to that car you'll see what I mean http://members.cardomain.com/lavoyspd (http://members.cardomain.com/lavoyspd)
And I own a 90 Crx Si as well, I got it a couple years ago. If it was me you said that line to I would reply your sister must be the smart one. However only because you stated a smart ass comment first and I would definately have to reply this way. heres a link to that notice its not rice anymore this is my go fast great handling project car http://members.cardomain.com/lavoyspeed (http://members.cardomain.com/lavoyspeed)

I was planning on a B16a1 engine swap (160hp) and in a 2100 pound car it will rock. I have been beating the piss out of it with the mind set of hey Im gonna swap out the engine anyway. Well the headgasket finally went at 160,000 miles (gotta love hondas for reliability) no biggie Im thinking because hey swap time, but then I see this kick ass looking 67 Caddy Coupe DeVille for sale at last Sundays Car show and It clicked, I want a Classic cruiser, Ive never had one. So now looks like the crx is on the back burner, I will still do a swap this winter mind you, for when Im in the mood to whoop some ass and drive like a "ricer" and a caddy to roll in best of both worlds I say.

Randy_W
05-27-04, 07:56 AM
"Im gonna swap out the engine anyway. Well the headgasket finally went at 160,000 miles (gotta love hondas for reliability) "


Wow!! A whole 160k! A Vortec 350 will easily go 250-300k with no major work if it is properly serviced, mine has 171k now and runs perfectly with no measurable oil consumption. It will still run 0-60 in the mid 7's in a 5800 lb. Tahoe! A go cart with a big Briggs and Straton will be fast and handle well, but who the hell wants to drive it every day?:rolleyes2

67SupRFlyCoupe
05-27-04, 12:19 PM
I got buddies who have their engines in Hondas running well over 250k as well, did you miss the part where it said I pounded the piss out of it? I got another buddy who pounded the piss out of his 95 Z28 and the head gasket went at 60,000 miles that was the point I was trying to make. And I dont drive my "go kart" everyday its a Florida car in WIsconsin, never seen salt, I got a beater TOYOTA wagon for that. BTW do your 250k-300k engines last that long beaten on?

67SupRFlyCoupe
05-27-04, 12:27 PM
a single cam vtec in the 9s ?
Im gonna have to raise an eyebrow to this one myself. They make stronger shafts now, but a single cam? In the 9s, Never seen it yet, sure its not the 1/8th mile? Hondas do make 9s 1/4 but thats alot of money in a full race car.

Randy_W
05-27-04, 09:53 PM
My point was, Hondas are NOT more reliable than GM or Ford, just more hyped!;)

Stoneage_Caddy
05-27-04, 10:26 PM
anyone who say a GM isnt reliable needs to go look at any gm with a 305

gimme a 2 barrel 305 with a th350 tranny in a b body , i bet i can go many more miles than any honda with half the mantince costs and no timing belt swaps at 75k intervals . May not be fast but it will outlive just about anything , late 70s caprices are the cockroaches of the world , we may be dead and gone but the damned cars will still happlily run for many more years . Ive worked with many cars but outside a diesel the carbrated chevy 305 is the longest living engine i have ever seen

and with half the money it takes to break a 96-2000 civic dx into the 12s i could get the b body into the 10s

capn
05-27-04, 11:11 PM
anyone who say a GM isnt reliable needs to go look at any gm with a 305

gimme a 2 barrel 305 with a th350 tranny in a b body , i bet i can go many more miles than any honda with half the mantince costs and no timing belt swaps at 75k intervals . May not be fast but it will outlive just about anything , late 70s caprices are the cockroaches of the world , we may be dead and gone but the damned cars will still happlily run for many more years . Ive worked with many cars but outside a diesel the carbrated chevy 305 is the longest living engine i have ever seen

and with half the money it takes to break a 96-2000 civic dx into the 12s i could get the b body into the 10s
well what is the longest lasting 305 that you have seen? i personally havent had the pleasure of seeing any 305 so please enlighten me

capn
05-27-04, 11:15 PM
a single cam vtec in the 9s ?

when i was involoved with imports it was very hard to break into the 9s with anything front drive because of halfshaft issues

and single cam vetc in the 9s alone ? not doubting , ive been out for 2 years now , so do tell

Im still thinking of getting another SR20 to play with , all these DET parts laying around in the garage are killing me . Wish i never took the G20 to work that day .......
yeah on another forum (superhonda) BiSi i believe has a SOHC d series that runs consistant 9s and being out for 2 years?!?!?!? you have misssed A LOT in the honda happenings and such

Stoneage_Caddy
05-28-04, 01:03 AM
had a couple 305s in our airforce fleet with over 250k , and paperwork verified lack of issues , but these were tbi 305s , not carbed . come across many caprice classic taxicabs in my life that have spun the whole odometer over more than twice .Granfather old 83 bonneville we got rid of last week had close to 200,000 on it , would still pull a bass boat with no trouble at 75-80 mph (scary in a car with a very worn steering box). Dealer gave us a good deal on it when the grandmother fell in love with a focus , 500 bucks and the bonnie was gone

in its lifetime it went thru 3 waterpumps , each costing 15 bucks and one 20 dollar starter .

like i say they arent fast , but in the line of work i was in (airforce fleet matinece) ive come to know what lives long and what doesnt . we didnt have honda , and ive only owned one but from what ive seen they do last a long time but in the long run (gas milage out of the equation) the 305 is cheaper . Look at parts cost if something does go wrong. at the very least your into the honda for timing belts at regular intervals , the 305 can be treated like a bastardchild for 200,000 and still not care. a very simple 50 year old design (sbc 350) , de tuned to get decent milage and a chaper window sticker price

2 years i guess is a long time for those guys , how did they overcome the cv joint issues , namely at the wheel hub end ? they used the sheer the splined end right off the rezeppa cup like it was a bad cookie

67SupRFlyCoupe
05-28-04, 04:40 AM
My point was, Hondas are NOT more reliable than GM or Ford, just more hyped!;)
Well it was a silly point to make to me, because I never said they were or werent, I stated how reliable Hondas are :p

Randy_W
05-28-04, 07:56 AM
Well it was a silly point to make to me, because I never said they were or werent, I stated how reliable Hondas are :p
You sure implied as much with your comparison to the Z/28! You didn't happen to say which engine or what year Z/28 it was, but head gasket failure on LT-1's is extremely rare, and virtually unheard of with LS-1's! By the way the very last LS-1 F-bodies built had 6liter cams and LS-6 intakes and would run heads up the supercharged Mustang Cobras! In fact on the dyno there was only 11 h.p. difference and the Stang weighs quite a bit more! That's funny since there was a 50 h.p. diff in the factory ratings! The best part is niether one is a Nip ship!!!;)

caddydaddy
05-28-04, 08:06 AM
250,000 is what you call a lot?? How about 2 Million on a 67 Volvo?? Now, that's a lot! So far I think it's still the world record holder.
The most I know of on a Cadillac was a 79 Deville with over 600,000 on the orignal 425.

capn
05-28-04, 10:04 AM
had a couple 305s in our airforce fleet with over 250k , and paperwork verified lack of issues , but these were tbi 305s , not carbed . come across many caprice classic taxicabs in my life that have spun the whole odometer over more than twice .Granfather old 83 bonneville we got rid of last week had close to 200,000 on it , would still pull a bass boat with no trouble at 75-80 mph (scary in a car with a very worn steering box). Dealer gave us a good deal on it when the grandmother fell in love with a focus , 500 bucks and the bonnie was gone

in its lifetime it went thru 3 waterpumps , each costing 15 bucks and one 20 dollar starter .

like i say they arent fast , but in the line of work i was in (airforce fleet matinece) ive come to know what lives long and what doesnt . we didnt have honda , and ive only owned one but from what ive seen they do last a long time but in the long run (gas milage out of the equation) the 305 is cheaper . Look at parts cost if something does go wrong. at the very least your into the honda for timing belts at regular intervals , the 305 can be treated like a bastardchild for 200,000 and still not care. a very simple 50 year old design (sbc 350) , de tuned to get decent milage and a chaper window sticker price

2 years i guess is a long time for those guys , how did they overcome the cv joint issues , namely at the wheel hub end ? they used the sheer the splined end right off the rezeppa cup like it was a bad cookie

there have been many more companies that have come out with better racing axels, i believe some of them run straight axels with no half shafts. others just use much more beefier stuff. and i havent really delved into the cv issues that much im an engine builder on the side :)

BUT gas mileage is a big part when younger people are deciding on cars because its what they can afford.

and heres another reason AGE groups how many 17 year olds do you see driviing cadillacs......cough me cough and how many do you see driving hondas....shit guilty as charged. but its also what a kid can afford, i mean its hard for me to keep up with expensive repair cost on my caddy, rather than my honda, on my honda replacing the timing belt is cheap and eacy to do. and on gm ford alot of the repairs are SO hard compared to my honda, i mean doing my water pump on my jeep is a bitch compared to my honda.

but yeah money is a big part of car choice

67SupRFlyCoupe
05-28-04, 01:40 PM
I got buddies who have their engines in Hondas running well over 250k as well, did you miss the part where it said I pounded the piss out of it? I got another buddy who pounded the piss out of his 95 Z28 and the head gasket went at 60,000 miles that was the point I was trying to make. And I dont drive my "go kart" everyday its a Florida car in WIsconsin, never seen salt, I got a beater TOYOTA wagon for that. BTW do your 250k-300k engines last that long beaten on? Hey I just quoted my earlier satement, RANDY W; Do you happen to see the 95 in front of the Z28? Um yeah that would be the year! Lt-1 and if you dont believe that his happened I'll send you some pics of the tore up engine as well as his new parts. And Ive talked along with my buddy to other Z28 owners that have had similiar problems with theirs at local car shows. So as far as Im concerned its not all that rare or unheard of, thanks for the useless info on Mustangs a topic I never even came up with.

Randy_W
05-28-04, 10:11 PM
Hey I just quoted my earlier satement, RANDY W; Do you happen to see the 95 in front of the Z28? Um yeah that would be the year! Lt-1 and if you dont believe that his happened I'll send you some pics of the tore up engine as well as his new parts. And Ive talked along with my buddy to other Z28 owners that have had similiar problems with theirs at local car shows. So as far as Im concerned its not all that rare or unheard of, thanks for the useless info on Mustangs a topic I never even came up with.
Sorry, I missed the '95 in the post. The info on the Mustangs was just for anyone who might care. By the way head gasket failure on LT-1's is extremely rare and anyone who tells you differently is full of shit! You must have an unlucky group of friends! But then they are your friends, so I guess I'm being redundunt, huh!:rolleyes:

67SupRFlyCoupe
05-29-04, 04:36 AM
Well once again you fail to read well, I have A friend who has a head gasket problem in his 95 Z28, we talked to others at car shows (not friends) who have had the same issue, I go by what I hear from actual drivers, not some clown online who makes insulting remarks on my "friends"

Stoneage_Caddy
05-29-04, 12:50 PM
"250,000 is what you call a lot?? How about 2 Million on a 67 Volvo?? Now, that's a lot! So far I think it's still the world record holder. "

yup the million mile volvo is the record holder , good ol p1800 , im just saying gm does make cars that are very reliable

I dont know about hondas being easy to work on , but when GM made the classic american car (rear drive v8 in a good size) it was easier to work on than anything honda ever produced . Comparing front drive to front drive honda susualy always comes out on top when it comes to ease of maintence . When the domestic automakers went front drive the japanese sat on there laurels and watched our mistakes and made (and still do make) the best front drive cars out there

But to drive a 90 civic and a 90 caprice classic 250k they will come out the same money wise if they go thru the same parts , gas will be more for chebby but the honda will loose out on parts costs .

I still dont think the modern chevy v8 is a long living as the old 75-85 small block. I dont remeber too many bulletins for 305s levaing the factory with "piston slap" but the modern chevy is still way ahead of the ford mod motor when it comes to longevity .

Another thing honda does best is high redlines off lightweight internals , there late 60s F1 cars were some of the scaryest soundin scars out there , the fords of the day couldnt pull near the revs honda could , this all came from hondas long history of motorcycles . Its the nature of the honda have not have lots of torque , honda found a way to use smaller engines to cut costs and weight by running them at insane rpm bands like thye learned from bike devlopment

one more thing to chew on , how many late 70s cvcc's do you see comapred to box chevys ?

RBraczyk
05-29-04, 01:12 PM
GM cars and trucks with the tbi 350 are easy to work on because the engine compartment is huge.

Randy_W
05-29-04, 02:48 PM
Well once again you fail to read well, I have A friend who has a head gasket problem in his 95 Z28, we talked to others at car shows (not friends) who have had the same issue, I go by what I hear from actual drivers, not some clown online who makes insulting remarks on my "friends"I wasn't insulting your 'friends', I guess you don't read so well either!;) I own an lt-1, do you? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/toppop52/images/P4210095.JPG
I always trust first hand knowlege above hear say. Now if you run N20 or a blower or you don't keep the cooling system clean and fresh, you can have a problem, but that is true with any engine.

DaveSmed
05-29-04, 09:32 PM
Dunno a thing about the Honda motors, but I do know a 4 cyl can be pretty damn quick. I've been doing a bunch of work to a friends Thunderbird Turbo Coupe (2.3L 4 cyl Turbo 5 spd) and for as heavy as that car is, it moves along very nicely. His is a mismatch of parts that work together pretty well, when the Ford EEC-IV isn't throwing a fit...

Elvis
05-29-04, 09:58 PM
My point was, Hondas are NOT more reliable than GM or Ford, just more hyped!;)

That's the first untruth I've read in this thread. If you take precautions, you can make a GM as reliable as a Honda. Most people don't, which is why their GM starts giving them fits at 60,000 miles. As far as fit and finish there's no comparison, Hondas and Acuras hold together better with fewer rattles and squeaks, and less rust. (That doesn't stop me from wanting a Caddy.)

I'll agree with everyone else, though. It's the person, not the car.

67SupRFlyCoupe
05-29-04, 10:03 PM
All I know is what Ive talked about with owners, when I talk to three people with identical cars have the same issues it makes it not as rare and certainly not unheard of. Is that in a caddy? What year? anymore pics??

Stoneage_Caddy
05-30-04, 03:24 PM
"I've been doing a bunch of work to a friends Thunderbird Turbo Coupe (2.3L 4 cyl Turbo 5 spd) and for as heavy as that car is, it moves along very nicely."

you think those are good , you should see what the 85.5 Mustang SVO was capable of , there were a little faster than the 5.0 GT but the price was so much higher that people never really warmed up to the Euro Stang . Its probably one of the best mustangs ever made

Randy_W
05-30-04, 06:22 PM
All I know is what Ive talked about with owners, when I talk to three people with identical cars have the same issues it makes it not as rare and certainly not unheard of. Is that in a caddy? What year? anymore pics??
It's in a '67 Impala SS, here are pics of it and other

stuff; http://mywebpages.comcast.net/toppop52/

Randy_W
05-30-04, 06:30 PM
That's the first untruth I've read in this thread. If you take precautions, you can make a GM as reliable as a Honda. Most people don't, which is why their GM starts giving them fits at 60,000 miles. As far as fit and finish there's no comparison, Hondas and Acuras hold together better with fewer rattles and squeaks, and less rust. (That doesn't stop me from wanting a Caddy.)

I'll agree with everyone else, though. It's the person, not the car.
Show me a mid '90's Honda or Acura that has better fit and finish than my Seville and I'll agree with you, but I haven't seen it yet. Hondas have as much rust as other cars, and the interiors are junk! The seat covers fall apart and God help them if the sun shines on them, I've seen dozens of Hondas (as well as other Asian brands) with the back seat back rest rotted from the sun when they were only a couple of years old. I've been in the upholstery business for thirty years, and I've seen them all, Japanese and Korean cars have the worst quality interiors, followed closely by Italian cars! Even the cars assembled here use Asian materials and that's where the problem is.;)

Stoneage_Caddy
05-30-04, 06:39 PM
NICE 67 !

man those have a good shape to them , how much do those wiegh ?

Dead Sled
05-30-04, 08:15 PM
so what do the last 50 or so post have to do with best line to piss off a ricer?

can we say off topic? :kick:

Randy_W
05-30-04, 08:16 PM
NICE 67 !

man those have a good shape to them , how much do those wiegh ?
Thanks, I've owned it for over four years. It was a one owner, 57k mile car with 327/ powerglide, we did the LT-1/4L60E swap in Dec. of '02. It may surprise some to find, as equipped it weighs about 3950 lbs. Some later big block Chevelles weighed more!

Stoneage_Caddy
05-30-04, 08:22 PM
3950? shoot thats 150 lbs from a nascar cup car ....

yet another car too keep my eyes peeled for , whenever i get into the classic car market seriously

DaveSmed
05-30-04, 08:38 PM
That 67 Impala is beautiful! Well done on the engine swap!



you think those are good , you should see what the 85.5 Mustang SVO was capable of , there were a little faster than the 5.0 GT but the price was so much higher that people never really warmed up to the Euro Stang . Its probably one of the best mustangs ever made
That's partially why it's so much fun... it's frankencar. SVO turbo/intercooler/computer, later model functional ram air hood, and all kinds of other random stuff.

And yes, this thread is about as off topic as it gets......

Elvis
05-30-04, 09:10 PM
Most Sevilles are garaged. Most Hondas aren't. If I had a choice I'd take a Seville any day, but most people don't. I agree with you about the materials, but not on squeaks and rattles.

Resale value is the key. A Cadillac is barely worth 50% of its original retail value after three years. A Honda is usually still worth 60% and sometimes more.

Vesicant
05-30-04, 09:35 PM
We'd all like to think that the imports from Honda etc.. are bad for quallity but the problem is... SOO many people mod them soo much , the parts they are replacing with are crap themselfs... it thereby causes the car to break down a bunch because of those parts failing. Plus the companys that make those parts are say.. indonesian, taiwanese etc. not the best known for automotive items.

Honda's vastly improved on their quallity, its the ricers that destroy it. Voiding the car basically.

Hondas can last long, knew a guy who had a 1978 Civic that still ran great, no oil smoke no nothing... only problem was that the dash lights went out... probably because of how it was for japenese electrics in the early days.

But then again, isnt it like that for any car? if you take care of it, it will last forever?

etcCanuck
05-31-04, 01:33 AM
Resale value is the key. A Cadillac is barely worth 50% of its original retail value after three years. A Honda is usually still worth 60% and sometimes more.
Any high-end vehicle, be it a cadillac, a benz, or a rolls, drops its value heavily in the first 3 years. Lower-end vehicles (hondas, acuras, toyotas) retain value better because someone shopping for a $10000 dollar car sometimes can't afford the extra $4000 to buy a new one. Anyone who can afford to drop $50000 dollars on a luxury car can afford the extra 5 grand to buy a new one, hence the heavy depreciation. The honda will hit $500 bucks WAY before the caddy. A caddy has to be really destroyed to be worthless...

Ralph
05-31-04, 03:15 AM
Man, back on the depreciation issue again. :rolleyes2 Check the classifieds in your local paper. American luxury cars depreciate rapidly in the first few years or so. Japanese cars hold during that time. After the initial 3 years something happens, the Japanese cars start to lose more value and the Caddies, etc hold better. This seems true, and also acceptable if one is willing to keep their car for more than the warrenty period, which is what we do in our family. If you trade in every few years (which contributes to depreciation because it puts too many Caddies on the market) then it doesn't really matter because you don't lose much money on the trade or sale. :bonkers:

p.s. my Dad bought a 1979 Nova new with the 305 2bbl. It has approximately 85,000 miles (not km) and has NEVER, repeat NEVER broke down! He still owns it and it has never needed anything other than oil changes, shocks, tires and various fluids. There is a tiny rattle at the back window at -25 C. It has got to be the most reliable car on the planet! Back then what did HONDA make??? JUNK that's what. Funny, I see dozens of 1970's American cars on the road, and I'm still trying to figure out what happened to all the Datsun B210's, 260/80 z's, and late '70's early '80's Civics. :hmm: Ease of maintenance and availiability of parts goes a long way for those American cars also IMO. A Cadillac will be worth more in the end because of the historical lineage it has, ever increasing quality (only second to Lexus), unbeatable styling, and a better selection of options. Lexus, Acura, Infinity, they are just following in the footsteps of a legend. :farting:

67SupRFlyCoupe
06-01-04, 04:25 AM
It's in a '67 Impala SS, here are pics of it and other

stuff; http://mywebpages.comcast.net/toppop52/

Hats off man that Impala is cool.

Randy_W
06-01-04, 10:35 AM
Hats off man that Impala is cool.
Thank you!!:D

lowscola
06-01-04, 01:29 PM
American luxury vehicles do depriciate faster than the Japanese & German brands. Lexus resale values are crazy, you can almost make money on them.

...and what does this have do with pissing off ricers?

RBraczyk
06-01-04, 01:42 PM
i dunno...

Pimpin_Whity
06-01-04, 02:24 PM
i know the best way :rant2:

you give him a rice citation :worship:

lowscola
06-01-04, 02:54 PM
i know the best way :rant2:

you give him a rice citation :worship:

It would be funny as I don't know what to leave this on the windsheild of a car and record the owners expression as they came back and read it...

...I'm saving it now.

Dead Sled
06-01-04, 03:58 PM
bwahaha i saved it :D

Pimpin_Whity
06-01-04, 04:06 PM
me and my friends gave it to two cars already, a riced out civic si (and i mean riced out to the max) and a 3000gt :bouncy:

davesdeville
06-01-04, 04:33 PM
I made my own smaller and more efficient rice ticket in web publishing. Gave 10 out, 3 right in front of their owners. Only got yelled at once.

capn
06-03-04, 10:34 PM
yeah about depreciation my 94 cadillac is about the same price as a brand new 98 civic which kinda suprised me.


yeah honda and toyota and nissan never really made good products to begin with but they did increase thier reliability and such. and all the older 240s Z cars and such are very few i have been in the import world for a while and have only seen about 3 vintage jap cars so there are not many also i think theres like a law or something in japan that if a car is X number of miles and X amount of dollars to fix every year it has to be scraped or somthing.

raymondk
06-03-04, 11:35 PM
Hey K2K you're wasting your talent pissing of Ricers, you should be on Letterman.

Dead Sled
06-04-04, 12:00 AM
not quite ricer but this happened to me today

this LARGE black girl pulled up next to me at a stop light play some rap music louder than nessicary for what she was driving. I leaned out the window and said excuse me,... thats a minivan. light turned green and she sped off and i laughed :lildevil:

Ralph
06-04-04, 01:43 AM
not quite ricer but this happened to me today

this LARGE black girl pulled up next to me at a stop light play some rap music louder than nessicary for what she was driving. I leaned out the window and said excuse me,... thats a minivan. light turned green and she sped off and i laughed :lildevil:

DOOOH!.....she probably just wanted to get to know ya?! :rant2:

Slick Black Cadillac
06-07-04, 02:29 AM
To Ricer: "Lets pretend for a second that you are a wise man, so please, just TRY to follow this Northstar!"

T_Dogg8
06-07-04, 09:45 AM
just be careful. the things you describe a ricer to be might have a surprise for you. if you would have looked at my old car, you have called me a ricer, but i would have blown away most anyone. the most fun i had was when some guys in their mid 80s mustangs pulled up beside me and started to taunt me and my car. (of course it was hard to hear them over their v8s and no mufflers) but when the light turned green, all they saw were my clear taillights.

Dead Sled
06-07-04, 08:43 PM
I dont even waste my time racing or taunting ricers I just laugh at them and shake my head. I dont care how fast they think they are there is always some one faster

T_Dogg8
06-08-04, 07:54 AM
it's ok.....you can admit you're afraid to get beat by a ricer. many people felt that way when they pulled up beside me. and felt a lot worse after i smoked them :)

just kidding man :)

inmycadillac
06-08-04, 10:16 AM
the fastest ricer-Supra-i loved that car, i also love my caddies

Stoneage_Caddy
06-08-04, 12:53 PM
its the ricers that dont provoke a race that one has to worry about , there ususly the more serious cars . its the circa 92 accords that have a chip on there shoulder and always rev there engine at aything with wheels at lights . the kid in the 92 last week learned the hard way not to mess with a caddy , esp one driven by someone who needed to find a tranny leak under high line pressure , just gave me a reason to stomp his little arse .....

not only did a stomp it i found and fixed the leak , well worth the time ....

When i had the G20 i hardly raced people , and was the biggest surpirse at the strip ....god only knows how much of a surpise at the strip they would have gotten if the turbo made it onto the car

Pimpin_Whity
06-08-04, 06:05 PM
i love my friends "new" 70's Z28 :devil:, it's sort of a primer rod. the paint is stock now, but he's going to get it done soon. but the real deal the the 750bhp big-block :worship:. and for some reason all thoe clear tail-light, tin-can exhaust and big for no reason spoilers ricers want to race :hmm: (did i forget they always run out of paint fot the carbonfiber hood), and then they get all that tire smoke in their cheap interiors, then do a rice-by when he slows down.

Dead Sled
06-08-04, 07:12 PM
I only admit to 150 horses under the hood of my cutlass :D

unpetitdanseur
06-09-04, 05:17 AM
just for kicks, here were the rides that came before the lade...

1993 3000gt vr-4 - southeastern guys, if you ever see this car on the road... run like a scared little girl.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/181000-181999/181005_50_full.jpg

2004 acura tsx - future sleeper
http://e-clipse.net/tsx/apr03.jpg

http://e-clipse.net/tsx/apr05.jpg

thank gawd the acura is still in the family. ;)

my first ride was a 1969 chevy c-10 truck.

i don't discriminate. and after all these years in both scenes, i don't even listen to the import vs. domestic bs. the import scene has it's primered bodykits with tin can exhausts, and the domestic scene has it's redneck dukes of hazzard wannabees with no exhaust. but the import scene also has cars putting well over 1000hp to the wheels as does the domestic crowd. every car niche has its pros and cons. it's a rotten, dead, stinky horse that seriously really doesn't need anymore beating.

i have to agree that underestimating a ricer can get you embarrassed. since i'm a girl, i got to embarrass people even worse. :D

limousine rider
06-09-04, 09:42 AM
this always works for me with the rice crap---- Hey nice fart can :canttalk:

Dead Sled
06-09-04, 02:19 PM
this always works for me with the rice crap---- Hey nice fart can :canttalk:

jam a grapefruit in one and see what happens when they start it. :D not that in know this from experiance or anything like that :drinker :lildevil:

etcCanuck
06-12-04, 01:15 PM
Dont ever mess with one of these either....
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/images/attach/jpg.gif

Stoneage_Caddy
06-12-04, 02:25 PM
got one of those stuck in my grille the other day , took a hour to get it out

Pimpin_Whity
06-13-04, 09:42 PM
can an admin please remove unpetitdanseur's pics, that doodoo-brown pearlesant rice pattie is hurting my eyes :rant2:

D148L0
06-13-04, 11:42 PM
can an admin please remove unpetitdanseur's pics, that doodoo-brown pearlesant rice pattie is hurting my eyes :rant2:I can't see any ricer in those pics... not that I like the color, but they look pretty cool to me...

DopeStar 156
06-14-04, 12:54 AM
All the ricers at my school actually respect the Caddy. They all come up to me in the halls and say something like, "Is that your Caddy? It's f*ckin' pimp." I just smile and thank them, everyone knows the Caddy's mine because I wear a hood orniment emblem cut just below the wreath as a pendant on a thick chain around my neck. There's another kid at my school whom I'm friends with who owns a 90-something Eldorado Clairmont Edition in a forest green and he and I are the two "Pimps." However not all the ricers have the respect.

At a red light in my town there was a DopeStar sitting comfotrably in his cherry red Fleetwood Brougham listening to his favorite CD, Mechanical Animals when a "Chock Full o Nuts Edition" 80's CRX shows up in banana yellow with a goofy pink stripe going down the front with reflective tints and rims so big his tires were rubber bands. The exhaust pipe was so big there were prolly homeless people living in it. I recognized the kid as a fellow student at my high school and he was taunting me in my "Grandpa Car" so I replied, "Grandpa's gonna have to shut that smart mouth sonny."

The light turned green and he took off leaving me behind laughing. I knew he was laughing because not two seconds later my 4 barrel opened up all the way and my 5.0 pushed my mighty d'Elegance with hood orniment crest/wreath glistening in the sunshine past his 2 foot hood with a mighty roar. As my tailfins cruised past his front bumper I'm pretty sure the bright sunlight glared off my "5.0 LITER" emblem as I left him behind.

The lesson here? Respect your elders, because one day you'll get schooled by, "Grandpa." :cool:

Adam
06-14-04, 05:28 AM
There are a couple of ricers out here and they hate cadillacs, muscle cars, and lowriders. all of their cars sound like bees. a friend of mine pulled alongside of one in his '68 Chevelle and started hitting this guys car with a fly swatter it was hilarious. he got pissed and speeded up but that Chevelle was just to much for him. we smoked him by like 4 or 5 car lengths. :histeric:

limousine rider
06-14-04, 12:53 PM
:histeric: :histeric: :histeric: :histeric: :bling: :kick: hahahahaah this topic is killin me , :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:

Vesicant
06-14-04, 01:22 PM
The best line to piss off a Ricer huh...

"Hey, nice engine... too bad its only half of a V8... (Smirk) :coolgleam "



Aww dang, i have a V6... love' V8's though...

Pimpin_Whity
06-14-04, 02:23 PM
I can't see any ricer in those pics... not that I like the color, but they look pretty cool to me...
i used the wrong word, sorry. ricers have large wings and decals. that's a lawn mower :rolleyes2

Aeain
06-16-04, 01:50 AM
I usually don't pay too much attention to the ricers but since I've been driving a Saturn Ion Red Line the last few days (supercharged EcoTec) I keep looking for ricers to race..... None of the weenies will ever race the Ion. What a disappointment. I think most of them shot their wad on the wheels and tires and wing and stereo and have no motor.... At least guys with jacked up Camaros will race you. LOLI know this is off topic but since I found this site while Searching for the ION Red Line I'd like to extend a welcome to you to join us Saturn ION Red Line owners and other owners of various Saturn models at www.saturnfans.com (http://www.saturnfans.com)


I'd guess I should be on topic a little but.

Look over at em and give the a thumbs down.

T_Dogg8
06-16-04, 07:50 AM
i had a fat kid in a mustang look over and give me the thumbs down while revving his engine. all his friends were laughing at my car. about 2 blocks later his friends were laughing at him and asking me about my car :coolgleam

fire_beast
06-17-04, 07:36 PM
Lol, my friend has a 2001 Chevrolet S-10 Extreme (that he didn't even buy by the way, his daddy bought it for him) and it has a Xenon body kit, clear tails, aftermarket rims, recently installed Ractive muffler that looks like a coffee can, and he's ordered a CAI. Sad thing is, some Extremes have the 4.3 engine, but his has the cruddy GM 2.2l that probably came out of a John Deere rider mower. I think that thing has like 100hp.....My stock grand am GT wasted him down the road......(now that's a sad story). I might have some respect for it if he paid for any of it....thing is he doesn't even pay for his own gas much less the truck, exhaust, CAI..........

ben72227
06-20-04, 03:32 AM
look at this ricer video i found:

http://www.ftlauderdaleracing.com/downloads/videos/AntiRicerCompilation.wmv

hilarious!!!!!

caddyshack24
06-20-04, 05:53 AM
"alright man, see you later.. literally" {burn out}
HAAH yo man, that video is some funny ass shit.. dude got busted by the cops, fell outta his truck.. lol lost his bumper

67SupRFlyCoupe
06-20-04, 02:37 PM
look at this ricer video i found:

http://www.ftlauderdaleracing.com/downloads/videos/AntiRicerCompilation.wmv

hilarious!!!!!
Yeah makes me ashamed to be a honda lover.

T_Dogg8
06-21-04, 10:02 AM
look at this ricer video i found:

http://www.ftlauderdaleracing.com/downloads/videos/AntiRicerCompilation.wmv

hilarious!!!!!
that was hilarious. i'd seen some of them before. the full movie of the kid getting his bumper pulled off is really funny. i like the import scene and i like what some people do to their cars (even if they are a little extreme sometimes) but some people have no clue what to do. you can go really extreme but you have to make it 'flow' and work with the rest of your car to work. that's true with anything. you can't just bolt on a bunch of parts, you have to have a plan and make things work together.

cadillacdeville
06-26-04, 03:02 AM
best line hem.....letem hear what american muscle V8s sound like maby a flowmaster or a dynomax highflow muffler. the muffler and pipes rusted out on my 77 sedan deville so insted of a OEM replace ment I went with a dynomax muffler and it realy made the car sound healthy and strong but not real loud like some flowmasters just deep and healthy but it gets loud when you let the hammer down.

JohnnyO
06-26-04, 11:08 PM
:coolgleam And don't forget, your 77 DeVille has 16 valves too. :D
About 2 years ago I raced one of my students (who says economics professors aren't fun?) from light to light. My 4x4 Ranger smoked his riced Honda complete with primered body kit and fart can. :burn:

93 Lac
07-12-04, 10:23 AM
Hm, seems as though the only thing you all call ricers are Hondas, and Hondas in general. The STS is actually my dads ride, but I am very much into the car as I am into imports. I think its a little biased on you alls part to think Honda as a whole is a "ricer". The term itself is usually based on someones opinion. Like heres mine, a distasteful modification done to any vehicle i.e., 18+" chrome rims on a Honda/Acura, wings, GTR emblems on cars that never came in GTR form (Skyline), cheap quality parts (APC, ractive), and anything else in between. A from a few of you guys, It seemed as though you were talking about Japanese cars as a whole as being "Ricers" which is, in my opinion, very ignorant of you to think that way. Heres a few pictures that I think, in my opinion, are not "rice"
http://www.sgcmotorsports.com/hatch/images/spoon%2520civics2.jpg tastefully modified honda
Nissan Cima (JDM Y33 Q45)
http://www.evolution.co.jp/autocouture/infiniti/fgy33/fgy33.jpg
Tommy Kaira Z33
http://tommykaira.com/tkcars/z/ztakao.jpg
Im not going to add anything else to this thread for it has been beaten to death on other forums that I frequent.
Just because some of us have the "uber cool" Northstar, doesnt mean we can't be beat. I have been owned by a Honda (EK9) with a B18C1 and many other mods. Another one of my opinions, I personally think, an RB25DET with an HKS ball bearing GT3037 turbocharger sounds way better than any V8 any day. It is a well known fact though, ALL Hondas, with the exception of the C30A and the like sound horrible. Meh, just b/c we have a V8 doesnt mean its the coolest thing since cd players. A 3.0L Inline 6 2JZ-GTE will own any of us any day, once the modifactions start coming we don't stand a chance, same as the RB26DETT. Big whoop, we have a V8 :rolleyes2 Whoa we have more displacement than most japanese engines, we're hot sh!t now :yawn:

Dead Sled
07-12-04, 05:48 PM
:deadhorse

LacSeville
07-12-04, 09:05 PM
:deadhorse

:deadhorse

Stoneage_Caddy
07-12-04, 11:20 PM
mom says if we dont quit beating this we will go blind !

RBraczyk
07-13-04, 12:07 AM
That video of that guy wrecking the front end of his truck makes me sad...

Vesicant
07-13-04, 12:44 AM
That video of that guy wrecking the front end of his truck makes me sad...
Yeah.. we have a 98 K1500 Ext Cab w/ Z71 and that good ol 350 Vortec

That was so stupid it was funny.. i did smirk once or twice.. our trucks are pretty safe though! (if your inside and not hanging off the door) :coolgleam

DopeStar 156
07-13-04, 01:13 AM
I've seen too many of those morons wreck their own cars in sheer acts of stupidity and arrogance not to mention other people's cars. I've shown many rice burners that no matter how much crap you bolt on, the only way to beat me is to get a different car with a real engine in it.

Randy_W
07-13-04, 07:44 AM
Hm, seems as though the only thing you all call ricers are Hondas, and Hondas in general. The STS is actually my dads ride, but I am very much into the car as I am into imports. I think its a little biased on you alls part to think Honda as a whole is a "ricer". The term itself is usually based on someones opinion. Like heres mine, a distasteful modification done to any vehicle i.e., 18+" chrome rims on a Honda/Acura, wings, GTR emblems on cars that never came in GTR form (Skyline), cheap quality parts (APC, ractive), and anything else in between. A from a few of you guys, It seemed as though you were talking about Japanese cars as a whole as being "Ricers" which is, in my opinion, very ignorant of you to think that way. Heres a few pictures that I think, in my opinion, are not "rice"
http://www.sgcmotorsports.com/hatch/images/spoon%2520civics2.jpg tastefully modified honda
Nissan Cima (JDM Y33 Q45)
http://www.evolution.co.jp/autocouture/infiniti/fgy33/fgy33.jpg
Tommy Kaira Z33
http://tommykaira.com/tkcars/z/ztakao.jpg
Im not going to add anything else to this thread for it has been beaten to death on other forums that I frequent.
Just because some of us have the "uber cool" Northstar, doesnt mean we can't be beat. I have been owned by a Honda (EK9) with a B18C1 and many other mods. Another one of my opinions, I personally think, an RB25DET with an HKS ball bearing GT3037 turbocharger sounds way better than any V8 any day. It is a well known fact though, ALL Hondas, with the exception of the C30A and the like sound horrible. Meh, just b/c we have a V8 doesnt mean its the coolest thing since cd players. A 3.0L Inline 6 2JZ-GTE will own any of us any day, once the modifactions start coming we don't stand a chance, same as the RB26DETT. Big whoop, we have a V8 :rolleyes2 Whoa we have more displacement than most japanese engines, we're hot sh!t now :yawn:
There will NEVER, EVER, be an inline engine that sounds as good as a performance V/8!!!!!!! ;)

DopeStar 156
07-13-04, 10:12 AM
There will NEVER, EVER, be an inline engine that sounds as good as a performance V/8!!!!!!! ;)Amen brotha. :worship: I love the "chugging" sound my Fleetwood's 5.0 makes when I'm moving from 0. I wish I had the money to have it converted to a dual exhaust system, then it would sound much hotter.

carguy16
07-13-04, 09:02 PM
there have been many more companies that have come out with better racing axels, i believe some of them run straight axels with no half shafts. others just use much more beefier stuff. and i havent really delved into the cv issues that much im an engine builder on the side :)

BUT gas mileage is a big part when younger people are deciding on cars because its what they can afford.

and heres another reason AGE groups how many 17 year olds do you see driviing cadillacs......cough me cough and how many do you see driving hondas....shit guilty as charged. but its also what a kid can afford, i mean its hard for me to keep up with expensive repair cost on my caddy, rather than my honda, on my honda replacing the timing belt is cheap and eacy to do. and on gm ford alot of the repairs are SO hard compared to my honda, i mean doing my water pump on my jeep is a bitch compared to my honda.

but yeah money is a big part of car choice
I can relate here to Fords. My sister has a 1999 Ford Escort sedan, my dad replaced the upper radiator hose with some trouble, he couldnt get to the lower radiator hose, so she had to take it to the Ford dealer to change it, it was just impossible to get to. The timing belt, well she is going to go back to Ford to get that replaced, I think she just hit 90,000 miles on the car. But, they are very cramped cars under the hood. I have seen Saturn's that seem to have a bit of room to work in.

About 17 year olds owning Cadillacs, I am trying to buy a used Cadillac now, with high mileage to get a good price, it will be my first car. Maybe in a year or two I will trade it in for another Cadillac. But, searching for a job is not going well right now, I can only get the car when I get a job.

-Byron

Ellis1
07-13-04, 09:09 PM
Best line I have heard FROM a ricer personaly was "How about you remove two plug wires and we try that again?" :histeric: