: 09 CTS V Performance Rating



Rich H
02-12-08, 10:29 PM
Since we seem to have some difference of opinion:

What is the most important performance characteristic for the 09 CTS V that can be measured in a commonly available test ?

Possible answers:

straight line acceleration time
braking distance
skid pad g force
slalom time
lap time

BowenCT
02-13-08, 10:03 AM
How cool I look in it.

The Tony Show
02-13-08, 11:50 AM
:lol: BowenCT has the best posts on these topics.

Looks like slalom speed isn't faring so well against lap times, eh?

atdeneve
02-13-08, 12:03 PM
It shouldn't. Lap times are easily a better indicator of performance. No question. That would be my pick.

But even lap times are gonna have qualifications. One car may dominate on a particular course and get handed it's ass to on another. An autocross lap is gonna be very different than a road course lap. Lap times are still only a part of the equation, if you will. But, certainly, the best indicator or benchmark of em all.

thebigjimsho
02-13-08, 12:04 PM
What does anything matter? Lap times are the ultimate gauge...

atdeneve
02-13-08, 12:06 PM
Yesitis.

RightTurn
02-13-08, 12:16 PM
:effort:

The Tony Show
02-13-08, 12:20 PM
It shouldn't. Lap times are easily a better indicator of performance. No question. That would be my pick.

I agree with you- I'm not the 1 vote for slalom.

atdeneve
02-13-08, 12:31 PM
No, that was me. Haha.

Jus playin. I didn't even vote. I don't count.

I actually never even knew where the results were until now. Never really looked before.

urbanski
02-13-08, 12:39 PM
will it hold my big gulp

RightTurn
02-13-08, 12:47 PM
Srsly?

urbanski
02-13-08, 12:57 PM
rly.

BowenCT
02-13-08, 02:06 PM
Someone post the owl........do it, do it!!!

thebigjimsho
02-13-08, 03:06 PM
http://www.mayantimes.com/pictires/animal%20pictures/owl$.jpg

BowenCT
02-13-08, 05:40 PM
Hahaha..........amazing, I love it! It's the little things.......

RightTurn
02-13-08, 06:06 PM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachments/eldorado-room/32538d1183427236-rt-l5-wellmayberlyfn7.jpg

CVP33
02-13-08, 07:13 PM
Lap times damnit! My SRT-8 is plenty fast in a straight line, but I miss the confidence of entering a turn in the V. I can run 12.9 quarter mile times all day long, but I miss the g's. Even with better tires, better shocks, strut tower brace and bigger sways; when I first enter the turn I always get that feeling in my stomach. The aw-shit moment between she's going to take the turn and nope the ass end's washing out.

My favorite V story was a guy in an AWD Volvo tailgating me on a twisty road in the rain. I had the GSD3's on and knew exactly how fast I could take the next corner, enter at 58mph and let off the throttle. I look in the rear view mirror as the Volvo performs a tail-slapper around the corner and barely regains control on exit. I wouldn't wish that on anybody, but what were you thinking tailgating me?

HiTechRV
02-13-08, 09:04 PM
Lmao

Katshot
02-14-08, 08:57 AM
While I agree that lap times are a good gauge for a vehicle's overall capabilities (probably the best), the most attention seems be paid to the car's power which would point to acceleration being most important to people here. So although you guys might SAY overall performance is most important, your posts tell a different story.

CIWS
02-14-08, 10:06 AM
While I agree that lap times are a good gauge for a vehicle's overall capabilities (probably the best), the most attention seems be paid to the car's power which would point to acceleration being most important to people here. So although you guys might SAY overall performance is most important, your posts tell a different story.


Maybe that's because GM hasn't released any real data yet on the car's actual performance on the track. So all we're left with is specs and guessing at this point. Once we have some REAL information about the car and not just a spec sheet the topics of conversation can shift.

I'm still hoping / waiting for Top Gear to get one of these and run it against the likes of the M3/M5, various AMGs, and Audis. They will test it in the straights and on the lap with The Stig. :D

thebigjimsho
02-14-08, 10:32 AM
Maybe that's because GM hasn't released any real data yet on the car's actual performance on the track. So all we're left with is specs and guessing at this point. Once we have some REAL information about the car and not just a spec sheet the topics of conversation can shift.

I'm still hoping / waiting for Top Gear to get one of these and run it against the likes of the M3/M5, various AMGs, and Audis. They will test it in the straights and on the lap with The Stig. :DThank you. I love how Katshot the Magnificent knows all...

Katshot
02-14-08, 10:42 AM
Maybe that's because GM hasn't released any real data yet on the car's actual performance on the track. So all we're left with is specs and guessing at this point. Once we have some REAL information about the car and not just a spec sheet the topics of conversation can shift.

I'm still hoping / waiting for Top Gear to get one of these and run it against the likes of the M3/M5, various AMGs, and Audis. They will test it in the straights and on the lap with The Stig. :D

Yeah, a Top Gear test would be fun. Like to see what they can whine about, or mis-state like they did about the GT 500 Mustang.
You may be right about the shifting of the conversation at some point. We'll see.

thebigjimsho
02-14-08, 10:43 AM
Yeah, a Top Gear test would be fun. Like to see what they can whine about, or mis-state like they did about the GT 500 Mustang.
You may be right about the shifting of the conversation at some point. We'll see.What did they say about the GT500?

Katshot
02-14-08, 10:45 AM
Thank you. I love how Katshot the Magnificent knows all...

You just can't resist making things personal can you? Obviously easier for you to open your mouth than your mind.:rolleyes:

Katshot
02-14-08, 10:54 AM
What did they say about the GT500?

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/top-gear-ford-shelby-mustang-gt500/2993235963

Rich H
02-14-08, 07:53 PM
Only a few hours left before this poll expires. Get your votes in now!

Looks like it's the Laplanders vs the burn-outs.

gothicaleigh
02-14-08, 08:22 PM
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/top-gear-ford-shelby-mustang-gt500/2993235963

I guess I missed the inaccuracy...

Live axle? Check.
No LSD? Check.
For guys who find their sisters attractive? Check.

Care to point out what they "mis-stated"?



I wish they would have reviewed the V1 that way. No objective comments about door bongs or styling. Just a pure performance review.

Katshot
02-15-08, 09:17 AM
After looking the video over again, I guess the only issue was the statement about horsepower being low. I could've sworn there was more to it but the horsepower statement was stupid enough IMO. Still love the show, and LOVED that his car was so low on power. Bet it really pissed him off when he first saw it.

thebigjimsho
02-15-08, 03:32 PM
The hp does seem low on almost every GT500. At least the ones I've seen tested. I mean, a 400hp Vette spanked one at Grattan...

Katshot
02-19-08, 10:17 AM
The hp does seem low on almost every GT500. At least the ones I've seen tested. I mean, a 400hp Vette spanked one at Grattan...

Every dyno test I've seen suggests that the advertised HP is actually under-rated. This was the case in point on the Top Gear story as well. The moron was making a big deal that the car didn't pull 500hp at the wheels, but after figuring the drivetrain loss, the engine was actually making MORE than the advertised figure.

thebigjimsho
02-19-08, 02:18 PM
Well, that's it! There's the perfect argument against the V2! Look at what excessive weight, with bad weight distribution, can do. It makes the GT500 a big, fat, understeering pig...

Katshot
02-19-08, 02:44 PM
Well, that's it! There's the perfect argument against the V2! Look at what excessive weight, with bad weight distribution, can do. It makes the GT500 a big, fat, understeering pig...

What the hell are you on?:hmm:

thebigjimsho
02-19-08, 02:54 PM
I am on the Truth and the Light...

StealthV
02-20-08, 09:37 PM
bigjim...

thebigjimsho
02-20-08, 10:16 PM
bigjim...HAHAHAHAHA awesome!!