: HID Fog DIY/FAQ (BiXenons)



CateraMV6
01-19-08, 04:31 PM
This thread will focus on how to install HID kit in your fog lights, where to get it and what to do to complete your transformation.

For the job you will need an HID kit, I recommend you go to eBay and search for "H3 HID 5000K" and you will find a couple kits from $70-$80 which is not too bad.

Now with an HID you have two options you can install a relay kit or you can just go the direct hook up which will work as well because our cars have Fog Relays so you wont have too much of a problem if you just hook it up directly.

I would recommend 5000K only as it gives you around 3100lumens of light per bulb and it has pure white with slight purple/bluish hint but you can only tell it appart when you compare them to halogen lights.
The 4300 would be nice but its too yellow looking for an HID kit, I assume you are going to want a little color out of your lamps...
6000K on the other hand you start getting too much blue light, too much glare and not enough light down where it matters... so just stay away from those.

I have experienced with all three and the 5000K is the best one with optimal light output and color.

I got my kit from Great Outdoors Equipment and its an H3 HID kit with 5000K color. All mounting brackets etc... we got a couple of these kits at work for some test and they are pretty good and cheap in case you ever need to replace any of its components. The ballasts come without any labels, go figure, but you can see many of the more expensive units being just like this particular one but they have a sticker... no biggie.

Here are some of the pictures of the kit.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/DSC00442.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/DSC00443.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/DSC00444.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/DSC00445.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/DSC00447.jpg


Next up will be info on the installation procedure and also pictures of before and after as a result of the installation.

CateraMV6
01-19-08, 04:43 PM
Here is a link from Ford focus install which goes through a lot of detail which may be helpfull to some of you...
http://www.focusfanatics.com/howtos/hid_install/

And another one.. http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=212200

...and another one.. http://www.bmwe36blog.com/2007/04/10/how-to-install-hid-inside-your-bmw-e36-diy/

...also http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2007/12/saab-900-hid-xenon-lamps-installation.html

MyOpel
01-20-08, 03:37 AM
here is a picture of the 5000k and 6000k H3 bulbs i have, they are from the same manufacturer and are mounted in the same aftermarket fog light housings using the same ballast, only difference is the colour rating.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e294/75Stingray/IMG_0148.jpg
When i bought my car i was living in a small town and drove a lot of country roads. When i had the fog lights on people would constantly flash me thinking i had my high beams on because the fogs were so yellow in comparison. so i bought the 5000k hid kit thinking this would match closest to the factory driving lights (4300k d2s) well i discovered that the aftermarket 5000k was still more yellow then the driving lights, only slightly but still enough for people to think my highs were on. Now i have the 6000k and couldn't be happier.
Although the 5000k light is brighter the 6000k light is still plenty enough for the fogs and it lights up reflective paint better.

CateraMV6
01-20-08, 12:18 PM
Wow thats a great picture, it clearly shows the difference and how much bluer the 6K kit is compared to 5K, I wish we had the 4300 to compare to the two other ones...
The temperatures here are around -5 so it wont be until next weekend for the installations and comparison pictures between stock and HIDs...

MyOpel
01-20-08, 04:12 PM
I found it! When i replaced the 5000k with 6000k i took a picture to try and compare... unfortunately my old camera doesn’t capture it the way a human eye does so a slight difference in this pic is actually more obvious when looking at it. if you look closely you can see the drivers side is 5000k also look at the light on the ground.
The driving lights are factory 4300k D2S Philips 85122 bulbs
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e294/75Stingray/My%20Catera/IMG_4046-2-1.jpg

CateraMV6
01-20-08, 04:24 PM
O wow this is some great material, BTW i wonder if you had any tips for removal of the fog lights cuz I need to take mine off and fix one of the mounts...
That way i will be able to easily remove the old bulbs and throw in the new HID bulbs... from the look of it I will need to bend the anti glare shield out of the way in order to fit the HID bulb as I think the HID bulb is actually taller then the OEM H3 bulbs...

Cadi Cat
01-21-08, 11:59 PM
I have d2s bulbs in my factoy headlights. I need to get new ones. But I see these are way more expensive than the whole kits I find on ebay. What's the diffenence? Why are my factory bulbs so expensive? They go for about $200 a pair. I believe in getting what you pay for. And if these bulbs are much better than lets say the HID h7s I would much rather pay the 200. But my question is would I even be able to get the h7s or any other bulb to fit in my projectors?

Cadi Cat
01-22-08, 12:01 AM
This is the website I'm looking to purchase these bulbs. http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=5

Cadi Cat
01-22-08, 12:12 AM
or here. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6000K-Hyper-White-D2S-HID-XENON-BULBS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ011QQit emZ320197025143QQtcZphoto I'm just confused as to what to get and where to buy. I'm also misled buy the differences in the color of the light put put by the Kelvin rating. 6000k at this store is hyper white where some place else it's blue. Any help would be great

CateraMV6
01-23-08, 08:43 AM
Hey guys I hope this clears up any confusion about color temperature and light output, I hope this comparison that I have put together helps you see the difference in the HID kits that they sell on eBay etc... ...
4300 is even more yellow but about the same as light down the road...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/untitled.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/XentecKit.jpg

MyOpel
01-23-08, 03:35 PM
Cadi Cat: replace your bulbs with proper ones, the china kits don't have the same quality and will probably die sooner. Search ebay for Osram (division of hella) 66040 or philips 85122 you should find a pair for $50-100

Catera MV6: Tips...
-Remove the headlights that way you have plenty of access and can see where to mount the ballast.
-remove the fog light housings drivers side through the front of the bumper and passengers side can simply pop out the back.
-I mounted the ballast on the bumper where it connects to the shock absorber, remove the nut slide ballast onto the stud and reinstall the nut.
-bend the light deflector just enough to clear the bulb you don't want to remove this or bend it too far forward because you will blind everyone.
-for the wiring i did a proper install, i cut the factory wires and soldered the power wires from the kit to the car wires then heat shrink and protective wrap around the wires.

Cadi Cat
01-23-08, 07:39 PM
Cadi Cat: replace your bulbs with proper ones, the china kits don't have the same quality and will probably die sooner. Search ebay for Osram (division of hella) 66040 or philips 85122 you should find a pair for $50-100

Catera MV6: Tips...
-Remove the headlights that way you have plenty of access and can see where to mount the ballast.
-remove the fog light housings drivers side through the front of the bumper and passengers side can simply pop out the back.
-I mounted the ballast on the bumper where it connects to the shock absorber, remove the nut slide ballast onto the stud and reinstall the nut.
-bend the light deflector just enough to clear the bulb you don't want to remove this or bend it too far forward because you will blind everyone.
-for the wiring i did a proper install, i cut the factory wires and soldered the power wires from the kit to the car wires then heat shrink and protective wrap around the wires.

Thank you. That's what I want to go with. I don't want anything cheap on my car. I like to keep it oem but personalized to my taste. By the chart on the previous post I think I'm going to go with either a 6000k or 8000K. I really like the blue hue. The brightness really doesn't look all that much different. And since I have projectors it might look really sweet. And I'm sure my factory bulbs have dimmed quite so, it would probably be much brighter anyway with what ever kelvin I go with. I've seen hids with out the projector lamp and the higher kelvins do look fake and dim. But projected gives it that concentrated beam. In my opinion hids only look good if it's projected.

eastsidercaddy
01-24-08, 11:29 PM
HID's look GREAT when projected. It just adds style to it, but for me i don't have the dough to get projectors, but i am getting the HID conversion for my '97. I do have one question tho, if i do get HID's lets say 10000k, a deep bluish purple, would it be sufficient light if i smoked out my headlights? 2 coats of niteshades is all i want. I'm thinking it will be fine but i dont know.

CateraMV6
01-25-08, 07:31 AM
Well you will get just a little bit more light then your current lamps by using the 10K kit but then the night shades will reduce the overal light output quite a bit so you will probalby end up with even less light then before... maybe if you do the 4300K then that might produce slightly more light... or try the 50W HID kits.. they produce about double the amount of the 35W kits...

Cadi Cat
01-26-08, 03:09 AM
Well you will get just a little bit more light then your current lamps by using the 10K kit but then the night shades will reduce the overal light output quite a bit so you will probalby end up with even less light then before... maybe if you do the 4300K then that might produce slightly more light... or try the 50W HID kits.. they produce about double the amount of the 35W kits...

Would that even be legal? I would go for that, and just aim the headlights down a little.

elvin315
01-26-08, 12:25 PM
Hey guys I hope this clears up any confusion about color temperature and light output, I hope this comparison that I have put together helps you see the difference in the HID kits that they sell on eBay etc... ...
4300 is even more yellow but about the same as light down the road...
That chart is great. The bottom row, the driver's view, says it all. That garage is lit from floor to ceiling with the 5000K bulbs. Not that I want to brighten the night sky but that kind of output translates into more range. The farther you can see the safer you are. And mounted under the bumper puts them low and hopefully not glaring into oncoming traffic. When the time comes I'm converting my fogs to 5000K HIDs.

Any installation tips? Did you have to bend that shield?

Elvin

eastsidercaddy
01-27-08, 02:47 AM
I think 2 layers of the shades and a 6000k conversion kit will be fine for headlights. I will post probably in less than 2 weeks. Thanks for the info.

CateraMV6
02-05-08, 08:51 AM
Well I havent had a chance to throw in the HIDs yet but that will be soon...

In a mean time I think we should make this thread a STICKY... as it has quite a bit of info on HID stuff...

Also here are some more comparison photos of the HID colors in projector set ups...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/DodgeNeonGTS/HID%20Xenon/d4s_4500k_d4c_6000k_d4r_8000kp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/DodgeNeonGTS/HID%20Xenon/light-compare-1.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/DodgeNeonGTS/HID%20Xenon/47b7ce33b3127ccebdf0ca4693e90000002.jpg

Here are the guts of the ballasts...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/DodgeNeonGTS/HID%20Xenon/mekit-5.jpg
And a typical Kit...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/DodgeNeonGTS/HID%20Xenon/kit623.jpg

cateraowner
02-06-08, 10:16 PM
hey guys,

I just got a new HID kit. never installed one before, but looks pretty strat forward. do I dave to do anything to make the bulb fit properly? (like drill out the housing a bit)

also I'm not sure where to mount the ballast. if it would be possible can you guys tell me where you mounted yours, or pictures would be even better... thanks guys...

eastsidercaddy
02-06-08, 10:41 PM
I received my HID kit about a week ago, installed and noticed that one of the bulbs was greenish on one side, but blindingly perfect on the other. That bulb blew the fuse and I ordered a replacement set immediately, but never checked the fuse until 2 days ago and found that the bulb still works.

Nevertheless, I got the new bulbs today and made a quality install, made a nickel size hole in the rubber caps for the housings so that little rubber gromet will create a good seal without having wires all over the place. Putting in the bulb is easy, but had to take out the headlights in order to put the metal retainer over them for the secure fit. I placed my ballasts in a location where it's easy to reach, doesn't get affected by elements and fits secure. I DID NOT MOUNT THEM, JUST SECURED THEM IN A TIGHT SPOT. I'll quit my blabbing an post what it looks like. :yup:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/2984000-2984999/2984810_35_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/2984000-2984999/2984810_37_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/2984000-2984999/2984810_38_full.jpg

CateraMV6
02-07-08, 07:20 AM
Geezzzeee you got the 6000K didnt you.... Oh my goodness how is the light pattern did it change at all? Usually it gets distorted after the HID install but maybe you were lucky with the H7 Setups....

I hope I can get a chance to install mine this weekend, and I will post pictures with a nice how-to... so if you hold tight more info will be on the way soon.

eastsidercaddy
02-07-08, 05:52 PM
Yeah, 6000K. It's actually less blue than you think it's just the camera. Road lights up pretty well- ESPECIALLY signs! Just need to aim them up a bit but the light pattern only changes slightly. There's more light concentrated in certain spots but nothing that looks ugly.

CateraMV6
02-10-08, 03:51 PM
Well I am happy to report that the installation went just fine and I am extremely pleased with the results... However I think I may have got a 6K kit instead of a 5K because those suckers are real bright and they have a slight hint of blue... in fact they look more blue then the OEM HIDs...
And now the fogs are actually useful, I never thought they put so much light to the sides where it actually matters... I will post some pictures but my camera was dead during the installations... so no install pictures, but I will post some of the difference in light output...
I did bend the light shield back just slightly because I didn't want it touching the return wire on the HID bulb, but if you don't want to you don't have to bend it back...
Also in order to install it you will have to remove the front bumper which is rather easy, takes all 7 screws and its off... I would not recommend you installing it without removing the bumper as its super tight in terms of space down there... :highfive:

:worship: to Bi HIDs...

CateraMV6
02-11-08, 07:57 PM
The kit is a 5000K HID H3, kit from eBay. Paid $72.49 for the entire thing.

Here are a few pictures of the kit...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00444.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00447.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00443.jpg
Install Location.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00518-1.jpg

And finally Light output...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00500.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00499.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00495.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00501.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00505.jpg
Initial Start up...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00509.jpg
Warmed up...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00511.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/Night%20Pictures/DSC00514.jpg

MyOpel
02-13-08, 01:49 AM
all i see is red x's

CateraMV6
02-13-08, 06:50 AM
The kit is a 5000K HID H3, kit from eBay. Paid $72.49 for the entire thing.

Here are a few pictures of the kit...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00444.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00447.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00443.jpg
Install Location.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00518-1.jpg

And finally Light output...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00500.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00499.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00495.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00501.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00505.jpg
Initial Start up...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00509.jpg
Warmed up...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00511.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00514.jpg

Here we go this should fix the issue...

CateraMV6
02-13-08, 09:43 AM
Ok for whatever reason they keep braking the link... Lets try this again...

Here are some pictures of my new HID kit, that I just installed this past weekend, I am extremely happy with it and its probably the best 70$ that I have spent on the car so far... The frontal lighting has improved dramatically and now the Fogs can actually be considered useful in most driving conditions.

The kit is a 5000K HID H3, kit from eBay. Paid $72.49 for the entire thing.

Here are a few pictures of the kit...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00444.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00447.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00443.jpg

Install Location.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00518-1.jpg

And finally Light output...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00502.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00503.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00501-1.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00494-1.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00495.jpg

Fogs Only..
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00504-1.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00505-1.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00500-1.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00496-1.jpg

Initial Start up...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00509.jpg
Warmed up...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Xenon/DSC00511-1.jpg

eastsidercaddy
02-13-08, 05:05 PM
wow that looks great! that's the same install technique I used but for the headlights (gromet and original cap). Good job!

Cadi Cat
02-13-08, 09:39 PM
That looks awesome!! I'm really getting excited for warm weather to come. I've been gathering add ons and new parts for my car and can't wait to get them on. Including HID fogs. Its just too darn cold out right now.

MyOpel
02-14-08, 04:36 AM
how old are your d2s bulbs?

CateraMV6
02-14-08, 07:25 AM
how old are your d2s bulbs?

I assume they are as old as the car, In fact I was thinking about getting some D2S 85122+ Bulbs as those are supposed to be 5k color but as of now they are a bit much in price and probably not worht the upgrade...

When I park them against the garage, the OEM Hids look whiteish with some warm yellowish tones... and the fogs look just bright white with blue hue, and I am thinking that they may have sent me a 6K kit instead but I dont know I will have to compare to find out... also the camera might be lying too, as when you look at them in real life, they look almost the same color, with the Fogs being just slightly more blue then the headlights...
I have a 5K kit on another car and when I compare the colors the 5K looks less blue compared to these... I guess thats one of the problems with cheap kits... THeir tolerances are not qutie where they should be....

MyOpel
02-15-08, 10:18 PM
I'm wondering if new bulbs would match better. it does indeed look like you got the 6000k kit, what color is the ceramic covering the return wire on the bulb?

CateraMV6
02-16-08, 07:05 AM
I'm wondering if new bulbs would match better. it does indeed look like you got the 6000k kit, what color is the ceramic covering the return wire on the bulb?

I think it was like dark brown, but I am not sure because it didnt look any different then any other HID bulbs that I have seen out there.
Well it could be the camera as well because when I drive sometimes i can see the reflection of the headlights in some of the store windows and they look exactly the same color but for whatever reason the camera shows the fogs as more blue...

MyOpel
02-16-08, 08:18 AM
The 5000k bulbs I have are brown ceramic and the two sets of 6000k i have, have white ceramic.

CateraMV6
08-12-08, 10:54 AM
To bring this tread from the dead, I decided on another upgrade....

I never seem to happy with the amount of light i have on my car for night driving, so now I am looking into upgrading the bulbs on it.

I have ordered a set of:
D2S 5000k CM bulbs. NEW ~3150lm (150$/Set)
D2S 4300k 85122. NEW ~3200lm (55$.set)
D2S 4300k 85122+ ~3400lm (75$/set)

The first set should have the whitest light, but not the most light,
second set should start off yellow and switch to bluer color after a few hundred hours, probably like OEMs,
third set should stay bright whtie, with a yellow tint to it, and give the most light with no color shift.

ANother option I am looking at is possibly going to a 50W HID as those run in the neighborhood of 4500lm, which will be around 50% more light... but I am affraid that this can burn my housings... and overload the electrical system.

Also looking to get an H7 HID for the high beams to use for the DRLs...


I will take as many pics as I can and compare the difference in light output, hopefully they get here soon, so I can try them all out...

CateraMV6
08-13-08, 10:40 AM
Here are the 85122+ Bulbs
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/Czar654321/retrofit/5000kphilips.jpg
http://www.hidexpert.com/gallery/philips_d2rd2s/DSCN3950.JPG

85122 OEM 4300k
http://syaoron.dip.jp/kinomuku/car/picture/hid20/IMG_0393_l.jpg

and the 5000k
http://www.pmw.com.sg/product_images/d2c%20bulbs.jpg

CateraMV6
08-15-08, 10:36 PM
Today I got around to installing the bubls but I think they sent me the wrong ones, because the light is more yellow then before, and it looks as if there are no Xenons in there so I think I just got a regular set of 4300k bulbs...

The difference however is still amazing... just look at the pictures to see for yourself...

The new bulb on the left the old one on the right.. http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01548.jpg

Here is a better comparison pic to show you the difference in brightness.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01549.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/moded.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01564.jpg
HIDS only
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01577.jpg
HIDs with HID FOG

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01576.jpg

FOGS only http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01579.jpg


I got my bulbs from RETROFIT SOURCE. THey shipped them super fast, the quality is OEM LIKE, and the results are clear.
I will have to talk to them and see if they sent me a 4300k instead of 5000k and if that is so then I will install the new bulbs and take more pictures.

Next upgrade might be a bixenon with nice TL projectors....

drummer07
08-17-08, 07:44 PM
at cateramv6, are those the stock d2s projectors? or did you get d2s bulbs with h7 adapters?

CateraMV6
08-18-08, 08:46 AM
Nope the stock headlights in the car had the D2S bulbs in the low beam (HID) and H7 in the high beam. I only upgraded to a newer style OEM D2S bulbs as the original ones had too many hours on them and they had lost quite a bit of the light output... The upgrade was worth the money IMO, more light on the road, safer etc...

drummer07
08-18-08, 12:22 PM
yes, definitely i did an s2000 retro in my last car and used philips 85122+ bulbs. the output was rediculous. i would to do a retro, after i opened up the headlights i realized how hard it is going to be to mount the new projectors.

CateraMV6
08-18-08, 03:37 PM
Have you tried this on the Catera headlights? I was looking at the projector and its either hella or bosch... so you can probably get a BiXenon and mount it there. Seems to have a ton of room around. and its already built for projector..

S2000 or TL projector would be kick ass but for now its just a bulb upgrade to get a bit more light...
FOr whatever reason the stock headlights have no cutoff at all, and no blue hue either which blows monkey ass, cuz people always ask me if I have HIDs.. sux... iknow...

CateraMV6
08-19-08, 06:05 PM
Here is a 6000k Bulbs in the headlights, and I think 5000k in the fogs but I may be wrong they look way too blue so they may be some sort of higher K value... they were some unknown brand so its porbably +/- 2000k...

Here are the new pics...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01581.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01583.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01588.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01592.jpg
These are the new 5000k bulbs but they were more white/yellow then the OEM D2S...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01587.jpg

CateraMV6
08-23-08, 02:09 AM
More info on the bulbs etc...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/D2S85122.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01609.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01610.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01616.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01617.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01619.jpg

CateraMV6
08-27-08, 07:31 AM
THis last attempt was with new OEM bulbs and also a New 6000k Bulb installed in one of the headlights...

The facts are facts, the 4300 puts out the most usable light but its in such a color spectrum that it looks like you are lighting up the road with candles,
In the case of the 6000k bulbs you get so much more whiter light, not blue but white, and the headlight looks different as well but you can tell there isnt as much light to the side, and the intensity of it is not quite like that of the 4300k.

So if you like a bit more exotic color and you dont mind the slightly less light output then you will love the 6000k, the 5000k almost doesnt show color, IMO it looks better in a reflective housing, but when it comes to projectors, there is no point.
You stick with either 4300 or 6000.

Here are some pictures that I captured last night, so you tell me if you like them and lets hear some comments on them.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01682.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01681.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01683.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01648.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01650.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01652.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01658.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01667.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01679.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01684.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01686.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01687.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01680.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n50/CateraMV6/HID%20Upgrade/DSC01649.jpg