: 97 Black Catera new grill



eastsidercaddy
01-09-08, 10:05 AM
I've got some stainless steel mesh for grill inserts for the front bumper and plan on making a mesh grill. I want to know what would look best, pain my OEM grill black and place the mesh behind it, or secure the mesh in front of the grill for an 'expensive' mesh look or the ladder and paint the mesh black? I plan on getting a newer gold emblem for the front and putting the chrome molding on the lower bumper like the catera-v. Let me know, I'll post some pics before i paint the grille tho- it's my only one and there not cheap. Thanks:cool2:

elvin315
01-09-08, 11:43 AM
I've got some stainless steel mesh for grill inserts for the front bumper and plan on making a mesh grill. I want to know what would look best, pain my OEM grill black and place the mesh behind it, or secure the mesh in front of the grill for an 'expensive' mesh look or the ladder and paint the mesh black? I plan on getting a newer gold emblem for the front and putting the chrome molding on the lower bumper like the catera-v. Let me know, I'll post some pics before i paint the grille tho- it's my only one and there not cheap. Thanks:cool2:


Is this what you mean (except for the grill not being painted black)? You don't say what color your car is. I think the stainless steel mesh behind a black Catera grille might look nice if the car is black or dark green. It might not have enough "pop" on a silver or white car.http://i.pbase.com/o6/69/14969/1/84049557.TpgkgMw9.2654665_7_full.jpg

If you can pull it off, a Catera V style grille might look nicer regardless of color. http://i.pbase.com/o6/69/14969/1/72707658.pezbjGKT.CateraVb.jpg

Me, I went with the aftermarket black Sport Grille with a Cadillac wreath & crest like Rinverso. My car is Platinum but the effect is the same. I even bought my badge from him.
http://i.pbase.com/o6/69/14969/1/84477441.PHA5uwWQ.cateragrille4.jpg

I realize that your car is a '97 and mine, Rinverso's, and the Catera V are later models but you get the idea. Good luck. What ever style you choose to go with, I'm sure it will look great.

Elvin

elvin315
01-09-08, 12:08 PM
I found another picture that might help you decide which way to go. This Catera has a Steinmetz bumper cover but he painted his grille black and used stainless steel mesh in the lower opening. with a little imagination you can see what your car might look like with the mesh behind the grille and below the bumper. You might even consider removing the bar in the lower opening entirely and just using the mesh.

http://k43.pbase.com/o6/69/14969/1/72882662.xg46sH72.2167230_19_full.jpg

Elvin

yellowxhoodie
01-09-08, 01:28 PM
i also painted my grill black.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b373/redlineracer9086/DSC03349.jpg
i think it would look pretty sharp if you painted the grill black and put the chrome mesh behind it.

eastsidercaddy
01-10-08, 12:16 AM
Thanks guys...I didn't expect the reply to be quite detailed! :eek: Well, I've made a template for eyelids and I'm going to paint them black, however, these eyelids are true, as I'm painting the headlight itself. I do like the mesh behind the grill Elvin315 and love the look of a black glossy grill like the one with the kit. It's funny because that exact car is for sale on eBay right now. I absolutely love what that guy has done to the Catera.

Anyways my car is black and I will have a couple of pics up in a few days. I will also show the available options as to what looks better. I have to see it to believe it, as I can't make the decision in my head.:rant2: Thanks for the help!!

cateraowner
01-10-08, 02:24 PM
just wondering? the mesh behind the grill... would it be noticable at all? from what I can see (haven't really looked at it carefully yet) the grill looks like it's pretty thick, so the mesh will be set pretty far back. does anyone have pics of someone doing this, cause I'd like to do it if it actually is noticable.

and eastsidercaddy, I assume you got the mesh sheet from ebay, how does it look and how much did it cost you?

yellowxhoodie
01-10-08, 03:43 PM
dont waste money on mesh from ebay or autozone. go to menards or home depot and get gutter gaurd for a couple bucks then cut it.

cateraowner
01-10-08, 04:17 PM
dont waste money on mesh from ebay or autozone. go to menards or home depot and get gutter gaurd for a couple bucks then cut it.

Thanks, will do.. I'm always up for some cheap mods.... how are those gutter gaurds for rust?

elvin315
01-10-08, 05:48 PM
just wondering? the mesh behind the grill... would it be noticable at all? from what I can see (haven't really looked at it carefully yet) the grill looks like it's pretty thick, so the mesh will be set pretty far back. does anyone have pics of someone doing this, cause I'd like to do it if it actually is noticable.

and eastsidercaddy, I assume you got the mesh sheet from ebay, how does it look and how much did it cost you?

For some reason the pictures I posted in my first reply are gone but this one shows the mesh behind a grille. Now, picture it on a black grille.
http://i.pbase.com/o6/69/14969/1/84049557.TpgkgMw9.2654665_7_full.jpg

Regarding the gutter guard: It's not made to be on display or look pretty. I wouldn't put it on my car's "face". Go to custom car or truck shop where they sell stereos and trim accessories. They should have the good stuff. Now go to Lowes or Home Depot and compare. Nuff Said.

Elvin

yellowxhoodie
01-10-08, 08:22 PM
Thanks, will do.. I'm always up for some cheap mods.... how are those gutter gaurds for rust?

not to sure about the ruse but id say their pretty good. just get some chrome spraypaint or any color you want and some clearcoat and go nuts. and hey you cant really complain when your spendin under $10...

eastsidercaddy
01-10-08, 09:06 PM
Well, actually no i haven't recieved the mesh yet... i hate First Class Mail. Regardless here's some pics of my car with the newly painted 'eyelid'.

I have already painted both lights and they look pretty good IMO. Just have to take some paint thinner and clean the headlights up a little and it will look professional. Also, on a black catera with a the mesh behind the grill- will be slightly noticable, but if you spray it metallic silver and clear coat it, it will not dissapoint. Enjoy! :thumbsup:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-10-08_1722.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-10-08_1721.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-10-08_1720.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-10-08_1719.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-10-08_1718.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-10-08_1717.jpg

elvin315
01-10-08, 09:35 PM
Not sure I like it but it's not my car. I bought a set of "eyelids" from ebay but after a trial fitting I gave them to a friend. To my eye they don't add to the looks and end up limiting the headlight output. But like I said, it's not my car.

Elvin

todd2fst4u
01-10-08, 09:40 PM
uhh......
there are some replacement headlamps on ebay fortunately
:rolleyes:

jrhartman
01-10-08, 09:48 PM
that poor catera

eastsidercaddy
01-10-08, 10:56 PM
I can understand your point of views, but to me this make the car look a little better. The fist pic you can see the paint drops and it seems unprofessional, yet that was after the first coat. I sprayed 3 coats for protection and long life. It will look good in execution, but some people will not like the styling.

That was just something i thought i should add to the car, but this is a thread for a new grill. Thought i would throw that in here just to give an idea to the styling. Thanks for your insights anyway. :bigroll:

yellowxhoodie
01-11-08, 12:17 AM
i was gonna do that to my catera before i decided to sell it. now im kinda glad i didnt. i dont like the look of it. but hey if you like it then thats all that counts man. to each his own. i put side skirts on my catera and no one really like it but i did so i didnt really give a F.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b373/redlineracer9086/DSC03352.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b373/redlineracer9086/DSC03348.jpg

eastsidercaddy
01-11-08, 01:44 AM
car looks great! sadly, if i were going to do that i would lower the car another 1" to 1 3/4" before adding side skirts. It doesn't look bad but it doesn't catch my eyes either. At least it looks like it's on there pretty good! BTW are your tailights tinted? That's the next thing i want to do after the grill, beautiful tinted tailights!!:stirpot:

yellowxhoodie
01-11-08, 11:14 AM
yea, i wish i couldve lowered the car, it was just to much of a hassle. and yea the tailights and sidemarkers are tinted using VHT Nightshades and Colorcraft clearcoat.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b373/redlineracer9086/2479078_44_full.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b373/redlineracer9086/2479078_36_full.jpg
If you dont already know how to do it and you want a DIY, PM and ill give you the info.

yellowxhoodie
01-11-08, 11:15 AM
that bottom pic looks kinda crappy, cuz when the sun catches the lights at certain angles the red shines through. and mine were dark....really dark. i think i did about 4 or 5 heavy coats of VHT and 2 or 3 coats of clearcoat.

eastsidercaddy
01-12-08, 02:07 PM
Hey man that is beautiful. I'm looking around my place for people that carry the nightshades tint, but to no avail. That looks great, but i already know how to do it i just need the tint!!!!

yellowxhoodie
01-12-08, 02:42 PM
yea, its not to easy to come by. I got mine from Rays Electronics which is a local stereo store. I dont think you can get it through their website. I know it was $25 a can, and i went through almost 2. Luckily my buddies got a hookup there so i got it for a little cheaper.

you can get it for $13.20 a can from this place.
http://www.caswellplating.com/vht/vht_spec.htm

eastsidercaddy
01-12-08, 07:07 PM
Finally got the mesh today in the mail..Here's a couple pics of what i may go with. Going to have to play around with it some more tomorrow and get the lower air dam grilled. This is only one layer, playing around with 3 or 4 layers tho for the best look.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-12-08_1438.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-12-08_1451.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-12-08_1452.jpg

elvin315
01-12-08, 08:53 PM
I don't want you to think I'm putting you down but that screen over the grill is plain ugly. Even if the grill were painted black the effect looks cheap. Maybe behind a black grill but definitely not in front. And don't cover the Cadillac Crest. Remove it? OK, but never cover it. I do however have to admit that the headlight treatment is growing on me. Seeing them both finished makes the difference.

Elvin

eastsidercaddy
01-12-08, 10:27 PM
Yeah the wreath and crest is going to be on the mesh grill but i ordered these --> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290197079619&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=019 nice wreath and crest that are reletively inexpensive compared to OEM newer cadillacs. The headlights do look nice after i've cleaned them up, but you have to make sure you spend about and hour prepping and taping-off areas you don't want sprayed and partilcles to float on. I'm going to take off the sides where i've painted because it takes away from the full effect (turn signals). The grill is going to be mesh and i'm going to have the wiring support in order to take out the oem grill to provide the best look possible. I should've clarified but this was just to see what it looked like. THX

eastsidercaddy
01-14-08, 08:05 PM
Here's what we've been waiting for! I really love the look, but with those emblems i mentioned above, gold emblems will go great with the mesh grill. As you can see there's some space between the hood chrome and the grill I still have to trim up, but was too anxious to get the grill on the car!! Tell me what you guys think! :D:D:D
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-14-08_1852.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-14-08_1853.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-14-08_1854.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-14-08_1913.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-14-08_1914.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-14-08_1915.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-14-08_1916.jpg

cateraowner
01-14-08, 08:26 PM
sweet, I think it's turning out good.. if you tighten up all the gaps, it'll be sweet. but what do you have behind the grill. I think it would be good if you just use the new grill

eastsidercaddy
01-14-08, 10:54 PM
I have the original grill behind it blacked out with vinyl electrical tape. You can see where i took off the wreath and crest behind it in one pic but when i get my new gold wreath and crest you won't see anything but the nice grill staring at you. It really shines nice tho. Thanks for the appreciation!!

eastsidercaddy
01-15-08, 11:26 PM
Here's the revised look. Front air dams are going to get done tomorrow. :rolleyes:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-15-08_2125.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-15-08_2124.jpg

eastsidercaddy
01-18-08, 07:41 PM
Here's the final look! Emblem and all!

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-18-08_1744.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-18-08_1713.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-18-08_1719.jpg

rinverso
01-18-08, 11:31 PM
in my humble opinion, it looks like a twenty footer to me........as in, it looks fine from twenty feet!!! don't mean to be critical, if i sqwint my eyes, it actually looks very sharp as a whole. if i got up close i don't think it looks very professional though. the thing that sets it off the worst is the mesh. it looks cheap, and by the pictures looks wavey. more like a bug screen.
i really hate to be critical, i know you must love your cat. but sometimes we go overboard with cheap mods.
i think a stock rear wing would set it off nice though. and maybe some new wheels, since you have the factory standard wheels.
sorry to be so critical!!!
best of luck, robert:crying:

yellowxhoodie
01-19-08, 11:03 AM
im going to have to semi agree.
only im not gonna bash you, just maybe try to give you a little constructive critisicm.
now i know everyone likes things there own way, but here it goes...
those 2 little fog lights are kind of overkill, you already have foglights, at least try and mount them more secretlly, like actually in the bumper, so that they dont stick out as much. push them back into the lower gap in the bumper and mount them to the top of that. Also try re-doing the grill. Id suggest actually taking the whole stock grill out. Its not that hard, its only held in place by 4 screws. If you take it out, i think youll be able to trim the mesh a little closer to the actual shape and size of the grill. And lastly, i think it would look badass if you painted that caddilac emblem black....but thats just me.

Anyways, hope i can help, and i dont mean to put you down, just tryin to help you give your caddy some nice looks.

yellowxhoodie
01-19-08, 11:05 AM
o yea....and if your not gonna have a front license plate on put your cover on to fill up the ugly gap. if you dont have a cover look on ebay, or try to find a member on here who is selling one. i sold mine to a member on here for $20. If not, you can always go to the stealership and order one but that gonna cost ya.

todd2fst4u
01-19-08, 01:50 PM
totally agree with everything yellowhoodie said. but also the grill you made doesnt appear to follow the gap it is in. there is a large gap between it and the top of the bumper. you have it cut straight across when it should be curved. also what are you doing missing the vertical bars in the bumper? it doesnt look better like that.
your car needs some work.

rinverso
01-19-08, 02:01 PM
im going to have to semi agree.
only im not gonna bash you, just maybe try to give you a little constructive critisicm.
now i know everyone likes things there own way, but here it goes...
those 2 little fog lights are kind of overkill, you already have foglights, at least try and mount them more secretlly, like actually in the bumper, so that they dont stick out as much. push them back into the lower gap in the bumper and mount them to the top of that. Also try re-doing the grill. Id suggest actually taking the whole stock grill out. Its not that hard, its only held in place by 4 screws. If you take it out, i think youll be able to trim the mesh a little closer to the actual shape and size of the grill. And lastly, i think it would look badass if you painted that caddilac emblem black....but thats just me.

Anyways, hope i can help, and i dont mean to put you down, just tryin to help you give your caddy some nice looks.


no bashing here!! just my humble opinion here.....i thought i was gentle actually. best of luck on your future mods:bigroll:
btw yel hood aren't you selling yours for a rice burner?

eastsidercaddy
01-19-08, 05:13 PM
Well you guys are all actually right on everything except the fog lights. I just took those out [factory] because they never worked ever since i purchased the car so i bought new ones. the grill does look great from 20 feet away and not so good up close. I've seen this, and I'm going to correct it as soon as i get some money. I had $100 that was stolen from me at school- so mods are going to wait until then. I did however see some very good looking mesh grill inserts at advance auto in town and it was $30 for an 8" by 3' package. It looked like miniature fence, high quality. I may get that later. Thanks for all the constructive criticism.

rinverso
01-19-08, 09:54 PM
east side caddy, i got to hand it to you!!! its not easy for most people to take alittle honest critisim. but its refreshing to see it in an 18 year old man. kudos to you buddy!! i'm sure you have limited resources at this point and can't afford expensive mods to your cat. it is a sharp car and has some great possiblities. check out elvins picture posting some time, you can get some great ideas of things to work on for the look you want.
all the best, robert
ps make sure your timing belt is up to date....i learned the hard way!!:eek:

yellowxhoodie
01-21-08, 01:39 AM
no bashing here!! just my humble opinion here.....i thought i was gentle actually. best of luck on your future mods:bigroll:
btw yel hood aren't you selling yours for a rice burner?

selling it yes...
for a rice burner...no

im selling it because im sick of dumping endless money into it.
i bough the car for $5,000.
and am now $8000 in debt.
now how the hell does that happen.
o wait, i know, cuz the cateras a damn money pit.
i already bought an 08 Scion tC.
way more reliable engine.

say what you want about ricers, and rice burners.
i dont really care.

yellowxhoodie
01-21-08, 01:41 AM
and rivernso i didnt mean to make it sound like you were bashing him.
my bad.
just wanted to make it clear that were just trying to help him keep the caddy classy and not trashy.
so yea, again sorry it came off the wrong way.

rinverso
01-21-08, 09:09 AM
selling it yes...
for a rice burner...no

im selling it because im sick of dumping endless money into it.
i bough the car for $5,000.
and am now $8000 in debt.
now how the hell does that happen.
o wait, i know, cuz the cateras a damn money pit.
i already bought an 08 Scion tC.
way more reliable engine.

say what you want about ricers, and rice burners.
i dont really care.

did i miss something?? isn't a japanese scion tc a rice burner?? unless the term has changed meaning.
btw the scion tc is very sharp, i must admit.....drive safe!
robert:bouncy:

Cadi Cat
01-21-08, 11:59 AM
Not sure I like it but it's not my car. I bought a set of "eyelids" from ebay but after a trial fitting I gave them to a friend. To my eye they don't add to the looks and end up limiting the headlight output. But like I said, it's not my car.

Elvin



You say you bought a pair? On ebay? I tried to get them but all the listings were from overseas and they won't ship because it costs too much. I really want them!!

yellowxhoodie
01-21-08, 07:12 PM
did i miss something?? isn't a japanese scion tc a rice burner?? unless the term has changed meaning.
btw the scion tc is very sharp, i must admit.....drive safe!
robert:bouncy:

1.rice burner
What every 16-20 year old who's seen "The Fast and the Furious", or "2 Fast 2 Furious" is likely to drive. Usually running a ridiculous amount of negative wheel camber due to the car being lowered without getting an alignment done, wheels larger than can reasonably fit in the wheelwells (giving lots of tire rub), a 3 foot tall aluminum wing, under car neon tubing, "Type R" decals, a boost gauge (esp in a normally aspirated car), and has the overall appearance of an automobile onto which every advertiser in Super Street has barfed a part.
Required equipment includes a 5 inch exhaust tip on an otherwise stock exhaust system, a 4 million watt stereo system that, from outside the car, seems to do mothing other than vibrate the rear hatch glass, and every aftermarket gauge that the local Pep Boys carries (not necessarily connected to anything).
Not to be confused with a "tuner car", which may be quite a bit faster than anything you've seen away from a racetrack.

thats the definition off of urban dictionary.
its only a rice burner or a ricer if you make it one.
RICE stands for Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancments...aka...stickers.
haha.
dont worry, i know how to take care of cars and not make them look stupid.

eastsidercaddy
01-21-08, 08:42 PM
wow, you guys have been going at it with the rice thing. Where i used to live there were nothing BUT rice burners. All these Honda Preludes that looked like a 7 year old had been going over it with a sander and nothing but bondo to fill all the gaps of nothingness. Not to mention the cherry bomb mufflers that were louder than a harley davidson screaming in your ear. SOME of those cars were actually customized properly. None of the cracked body kits with the mesh hanging out. Anyway i've decided to paint the mesh black, seeing as the original look is cheap, i think i like the black better. It just doesn't show the bug screen look that was previously there and looks professional. Going to see if i can set it up without the oem grill behind it. If not then i'll just wait till I can get the REAL mesh and have at it. Until then I'm waiting for my angel eyes and nite shades in the mail.

rinverso
01-22-08, 12:11 AM
you go east side caddy!! and btw rice burner always had to do with a jap vechicle, be it a honda cycle or a toyota scion. a car produced in japan. you can call it whatever acrynom you'd like. the rice stands for only one thing. so go hang out at the local kmart after school or whatever you'd need to do in your riceburner!!:bighead:
if you'd like to discuss a catera, great!! otherwise go to your average scion forum. enjoy and good night!!
robert:)

Cadi Cat
01-22-08, 12:35 AM
lol, well I'm just gonna put in my two cents of foreign crap that continues to flood our market. I dont know what the hype is with those honda civics with the fart pipes, but let me just say those really suck!!! I had this kid try to race me on the highway. I was just crusing along in the left lane with this civic on my ass. So like the true respectful citizen I am I merged into the center lane. Apparently he wanted to race because he swing in right behind me. So I pushed my sport button and gunned it. The image of that sorry "car" gradually got smaller and smaller in my rear view mirror as I went from 75 to 130 in a matter of seconds. Haha, that was fun!!!

cateraowner
01-22-08, 10:51 AM
lol, well I'm just gonna put in my two cents of foreign crap that continues to flood our market. I dont know what the hype is with those honda civics with the fart pipes, but let me just say those really suck!!! I had this kid try to race me on the highway. I was just crusing along in the left lane with this civic on my ass. So like the true respectful citizen I am I merged into the center lane. Apparently he wanted to race because he swing in right behind me. So I pushed my sport button and gunned it. The image of that sorry "car" gradually got smaller and smaller in my rear view mirror as I went from 75 to 130 in a matter of seconds. Haha, that was fun!!!

sounds to me like that civic didn't have enough stickers on it... cause if he did .... ohh .... you would have been sorry .. hahahah

yellowxhoodie
01-22-08, 11:44 AM
ive killed a million civics in the catera. its not even fun anymore. And again i dont really care what anyone says, i love the scion, its manual, has a slew of aftermarket performance parts, and is way more reliable than the catera. and im not on here to bash on the catera and try to promote a scion.

yes rinverso, i already belong to the scion forums, the only reason i still really come on here is becuase i have nothing to do at work and i like to help ppl out if they are having problems with their Catera. If you guys dont want my help and are all gonna sterotypical people who just hate on "ricers' just because everyone else does, then fine, ill leave, i just dont think you should trash something until you try it.

rinverso
01-22-08, 10:13 PM
ive killed a million civics in the catera. its not even fun anymore. And again i dont really care what anyone says, i love the scion, its manual, has a slew of aftermarket performance parts, and is way more reliable than the catera. and im not on here to bash on the catera and try to promote a scion.

yes rinverso, i already belong to the scion forums, the only reason i still really come on here is becuase i have nothing to do at work and i like to help ppl out if they are having problems with their Catera. If you guys dont want my help and are all gonna sterotypical people who just hate on "ricers' just because everyone else does, then fine, ill leave, i just dont think you should trash something until you try it.

gee yellow hood, i thought i complemented the scion tc, just go back a couple days on this thread. it seems to me, you were trashing the catera. so i wasn't sure why you were here, since you were getting rid of yours.
live long and prosper young man!!
robert:cool2:
btw... the scion tc always seemed kinda like a chick car. imho

yellowxhoodie
01-23-08, 11:06 AM
gee yellow hood, i thought i complemented the scion tc, just go back a couple days on this thread. it seems to me, you were trashing the catera. so i wasn't sure why you were here, since you were getting rid of yours.
live long and prosper young man!!
robert:cool2:
btw... the scion tc always seemed kinda like a chick car. imho

idk, you called it a rice burner so i thought you were talking crap, im not here to start fights. And you know, everyone actually says they think its a chick car, do me a favor, go down to your local Scion dealer, test drive a manual one, then get back to me. Most of my friends said the same thing as you, they kept talking trash and as soon as i took them for a ride, they shut up.

rinverso
01-23-08, 11:23 AM
yellow hood, peace little brother!! stay safe and don't become a statistic in your scion. you fall right into the demographics of fast and furious wannabes. check cnn front webpage today of dudes in your age group dying at record numbers in tuned rice burners. be careful!!
oh and have fun!
robert:halo:

eastsidercaddy
01-23-08, 06:42 PM
Grill is on hold. No money right now. Oh well. I learned some things from you guys and that's great so now i know what i need to do next time. Anyways newest mods are smoked out taillights and angel eyes soon. THX

rinverso
01-23-08, 09:49 PM
Grill is on hold. No money right now. Oh well. I learned some things from you guys and that's great so now i know what i need to do next time. Anyways newest mods are smoked out taillights and angel eyes soon. THX

sounds great! imho i think the rear trunk spoiler oem or otherwise would look very fine on your car. there is a guy on ebay who sells them already painted to your car specs. i seem to remember it was about $145+ s/h..
btw since you've been such a sport east side c. i bought a set of M3 fender vents which i don't have the balls to cut in. send me your address privately and i'll ship them to you free. just reimburse me the shipping when you can.
robert:yup:
here is a sharp picture of a black cat with the m3 vents

eastsidercaddy
01-24-08, 11:49 PM
Yeah, well I should be getting my angel eyes in about 1 week, hopefully less than that. Probably going to take off the front bumper, take out the headlights, wire the 10,000K HID kit, shave the complex patterns on the inside of the lens so everything is clear. Just got my niteshades and plan on doing that tomorrow. WANT to smoke out my headlights, but don't know if the HID light will be sufficient enough thru the darkend headlights. Thanks for your above post!

yellowxhoodie
01-25-08, 12:50 AM
i saw a mustang at a show that had his headlights tinted with the GTO stuff. i think those are actually shields not spray, but nonetheless, he had to always drive with his brights on at night, and he said it still wasnt as bright as it was driving with the regualr lights on and no tint.

eastsidercaddy
01-25-08, 09:50 AM
yeah that's what i thought but i'm probably going to put one coat on, maybe 2 if i can see good enough at night. Did he have HID's? They're brighter than halogens and with the tint, it should be good. May have to do what he does and drive with Highbeams on.

yellowxhoodie
01-25-08, 11:14 AM
no, he just had regualr bulbs, but his were daaaark. If you only do 1 or 2 coats you should be fine. I was gonna smoke out my foglights at one point in time, but never got around to it...

eastsidercaddy
01-25-08, 05:03 PM
FOGLIGHTS??? Genius...I never thought of that! If i have enough left after all the tinting (doubt it) i will do that too! THANKS!!!

elvin315
01-26-08, 12:02 PM
Probably going to take off the front bumper, take out the headlights, wire the 10,000K HID kit, shave the complex patterns on the inside of the lens so everything is clear.
Shave the lenses? All you'll end up doing is ruin them. Besides, that pattern is necessary. They are in essence little lenses that collect and focus the light from the bulb and reflector. With out them all you'll be projecting is glare, regardless of what kind of bulb you install. Clear headlights do away with the pattern by using specially shaped reflectors.


Just got my niteshades and plan on doing that tomorrow. WANT to smoke out my headlights, but don't know if the HID light will be sufficient enough thru the darkend headlights.
Why not just spray the headlights with Rustoleum? What's the sense of darkening the lenses and then increasing the power of the bulbs? It makes no sense. If you want the dark headlight look but preserve your lighting then install black headlights. They have clear lenses (maybe lightly tinted) but the interior is painted flat black (the surrounds not the reflector). It gives the illusion you want but doesn't compromise the lighting.

click
http://i15.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/ce/13/9705_2.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CADILLAC-CATERA-BLACK-PROJECTOR-HEADLIGHT-96-99-NEW_W0QQitemZ120212847796QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 20212847796)

Here's a picture of them on a Catera
http://www.pbase.com/elvin315/image/72813958

I know you want to make you cars stand out and all but don't mess with the headlights. They will save your life one day.

Elvin

yellowxhoodie
01-26-08, 05:02 PM
yea, the tinted headlights are probably extremely illegal, as it interferes with your ability to see and other cars ability to see you. If you really know what your doing and you dont want to buy new headlight asseblies, you can pop your headlights assemblies out, throw them in the oven and bake them open, then custom paint the inside yourself, put them back into the oven to seal them, then put them back onto your car.
however, i wouldnt recommend it unless your really sure and confident of what your doing.

eastsidercaddy
01-26-08, 07:02 PM
I know this, but was considering doing this. Just now thought that you guys are right, that would be dumb but instead just going to open up the headlights and see what the projection patter looks like. I can save up to get the tinted projecters you're talking of, but anyway this is all tentative...
I have painted the grill black and epoxied the new emblem on so this is final, no mesh or anything. That's just too expensive and painting is easier. I think it looks 100% better. I don't know why i was afraid to paint the grill...first time painting a major part of the car i guess.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-26-08_1551.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-26-08_1552.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-26-08_1553.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-26-08_1554.jpg

rinverso
01-26-08, 07:46 PM
looks much nicer....clean and professional! i got your address, i'll ship the vents. just send me a check for the s/h. i'll enclose the amount with the M3 VENTS. you have to promise to install them within 3 months and post pictures thats my only request.....you agree?
stay safe, robert

yellowxhoodie
01-27-08, 01:37 AM
yea man, props, thats looks 100X better, i really like how u left the top part and the lil trim piece around the outside chrome, it really makes it pop out. did u sand it first so the paint will stick better? and did you clear coat it? cuz i sanded mine before and clear coated it afterwards and im startin to get lil chips where you can see the original chrome through the spray paint.

eastsidercaddy
01-27-08, 01:58 AM
Thanks guys, and those fender vents will be done within ONE month! I sanded, primed, painted [3 coats black], clear coated [2-3 coats] for mine. It looks great, i used 320 grit for sanding. You have to make sure that you spray a good 10-12 inches from what your spraying, because it supposed to be thin "wet" layers. In other words you must exercise extreme perfection to get a perfect paint job.

Nothing is perfect if you paint it yourself, but it's damn close.
I love the newer gold emblem as well. I am going to smoke out the taillights tomorrow for sure, and take off the CADILLAC lettering and replace it with a second newer emblem and put the lettering like the 00 and 01 models under the emblem closer together.

I originally got the outer chrome trim and border idea [along with the smoked headlights] from THIS Cadillac Deville (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2983092)

yellowxhoodie
01-27-08, 05:16 PM
congrats on the new grill again, and i hope moving the badges goes well for you. I always wanted to debadge the trunk of the catera so that it was just flat, i though it would look nice and clean, the only problem is that the letters arent on the surface, they actually dented into the trunk a little bit and i didnt want to use any bondo anywhere so i decided just to skip that mod and live with it the way it is.

eastsidercaddy
01-27-08, 08:00 PM
Well, if you use clear epoxy, non hazing, it will harden clear and leave you with a flat surface. Then you can sand it and clear coat and it looks like nothing was ever there. Thinking of that i will put off smoking out taillights until that is done first. Don't need any big engraved letters with nothing in them being tinted.

yellowxhoodie
01-28-08, 10:58 AM
o yea, you have a 97, so yours is a little bit different then mine cuz i got a 2000. So your letters are actually in the light while mine are on the trunk itself. Well best of luck to you on that, and def post pics when you done! i wanna see how it turns out.

cateraowner
01-28-08, 05:03 PM
prop to ya... your grill looks really good..

just wondering.. have you tried putting your mesh behind the newly painted grill. don't know how that would look, but it might give a nicelook. I mean since you have the mesh

eastsidercaddy
01-28-08, 11:34 PM
Good Idea, I'll paint it silver and see what it looks like along with the freshly tinted taillights and new rear emblem.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-27-08_1551.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/PSM_1/01-27-08_1829.jpg

yellowxhoodie
01-29-08, 12:29 AM
did u shave some paint off those eyelids? didnt they come around the top of the lights and then go down to the tip of the bumber? cuz they look really good now. And while your at it, you should also pop out those side markers and tint them, imo it makes the car look realll sharp. check it out.http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b373/redlineracer9086/DSC03348.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b373/redlineracer9086/DSC03352.jpg

eastsidercaddy
01-29-08, 09:10 AM
heh, did that while the clear coat was drying on the taillights! I mangaged to find a easy way to clean up the accidental overspray of my clear coat on my headlights cause I sanded the tip going down and the tips on the sides away. Now it looks nice without the hazy look around everything. Posting pics within an hour.

eastsidercaddy
01-29-08, 08:52 PM
Sorry to bumb the thread but I cannot edit my previous one...here's my link on cardomain.com -> "bLACkout" (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2984810/2). That saves from uploading them to photobucket and copy paste them here and there. Goto page 2 for updates and just mounted my fogs in the bumper with leftover grill mesh to fill in gap. Tell me what you think. OH BTW, cateraowner, your tips just sets my grill off so much! THANKS for the tip man, hope you win the lotto!!

yellowxhoodie
01-30-08, 10:49 AM
damn, cardomain doesnt show pics on any of the computers here at my work. Guess i have to wait till i get home, at least i got something to look forward to now, sounds like youve made alot of progress.