: specific gun question for the experts



EcSTSatic
01-02-08, 12:20 PM
This is for my sis-in-law and her husband: I'm looking for a place to buy a Mossberg 500 or Maverick 12ga pump combo like the two I already own - not the pistol grip versions like the Cruiser or Persuader. I've Googled but I can't seem to find the black synthetic model package that comes with the 18.5" and the longer 28" ribbed/choked barrels. I bought mine at Wal-Mart many years ago but they don't carry it anymore.

Do they have buy the one and order the other barrel separately now? This is supposed to be cheap home security for them that they could take out for a bit of skeet shooting if they wanted to. Thanks.

Spyder
01-02-08, 12:41 PM
Yea, you can order the long barreled skeet version at just about any gunshop and then buy the short 18.5" barrel to swap out for home use. Lots of times you can find them with both barrels as a package deal. Either way, the barrel can be found for well under a hundred bucks.
The 500 and 590 are my personal favorite pump action shotguns. SUPER reliable, cheap, easy to work on, take down, clean and put back together without any tools, will fire and feed just about anything you could ever want to shoot out of them.

Check these links...
A cool little "JIC" Just in case package. Not what you want because of the pistol grip, but cool that it comes set up like this. http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88889532

This one is perfect for you, based on what you said you want. Long barrel for skeet, short barrel for home defense. I don't like the pistol grip on this one and would just leave the regular stock on it all the time if it was mine. Barrel swaps on these things take no tools and about 45 seconds. I don't like the synthetic stocks, but most people nowadays do. I'm kinda old fashioned and liek the look and feel of wood.
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88836835

20" barreled 500. http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88829524
The barrel I run on one of my hunting guns. http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88420202

Very nice stainless 590 w/ 20" barrel. http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88755213 I don't know if long barrels are available for the 590...but this same gun can be found in the 500, which is nearly identical, and if you go without the stainless they're WAY affordable.

Good luck and remember that most of this stuff you can order through your local dealer instead of buying online. Which keeps the money local and helps out the little guy who's trying to be stomped out of existence by the gun-grabbers and big companies.

Spyder
01-02-08, 12:42 PM
Also, if you're having trouble finding a local dealer, the sight all of those are being sold on has an FFL locater, by zip code. Find it, enter your zip code and it'll tell you most of the firearms dealers name, address, phone number and distance from your house.

EcSTSatic
01-02-08, 01:46 PM
Thanks for the feedback Spyder. I'm glad one of our pros approves of this choice. The JIC gun looks cool. If I didn't have two others already, I'd get one of these for the sailboat. We sleep over on it during the summer. Sometimes you get some weirdos around the marina.
We were all planning to go to the gun show this weekend so they could buy one from a local dealer but we couldn't work out a time together. It looks like I'll be going alone. I may just offer to get it for them and let them pay me back.

http://www.kansascoliseum.com/event.php?id=224

Spyder
01-02-08, 04:56 PM
Damn you for being able to take it home with you on the same day!

I hate California.

:D

EcSTSatic
01-02-08, 05:06 PM
LOL, at least there's some advantage to living in Oz
http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/KSSL.pdf

saintenick
01-02-08, 06:09 PM
Although you might want to consider the Remington Magnum 870 series if you want a good piece that can interchange parts well. 870 parts are easy enough to find so you can switch between recreational and home defense. I prefer the Remington, and I know more about it than the Mossbergs.

Spyder
01-02-08, 06:45 PM
The Mossberg 500-590 series is the Mossberg version of the Remington 870. Slightly cheaper and, in my experience, more reliable. The 870 is an incredible shotgun, I agree. The options and abilities are about equal and the price is about the same. The main thing about the Mossberg I really like over the Remington is the safety. The 870 has a safety on the trigger guard. I believe it is in front of the trigger and is the ever-popular little button that you push in with your trigger finger to take the safety off. Good, reliable, well-known and easy to use.
The Mossberg, on the other hand, is a thumb safety on the tang which I really REALLY like for ease of use while gloved in the field, cold, half asleep (home invasion scenario) and that it is quicker when practiced. All you have to do is flick your thumb up and the safety is off. If you're one handed for whatever reason, you can rub it against your jacket, pants, etc etc etc... I grew up shooting Mossbergs and fell in love with them. In thousands and thousands and thousands of rounds I've never ever had a ftf, fte or any other sort of jam. My 870 I got rid of because with certain types of ammo it wouldn't cycle without excessive force.

Mossbergs are made in the USA. Not sure on Remington? Probably, but not entirely sure...and if they're not, that's a selling point for me as well.

Haven't read this article yet...but a comparison of the two.
http://www.tacticalshotgun.ca/content_nonsub/shotguns/compare_870_590.html

Spyder
01-02-08, 06:46 PM
The Winchester 1300 is also a good one...but alas, I sold mine off because I didn't need four short barrel high capacity twelve gauge guns. :)

dkozloski
01-02-08, 07:13 PM
My choice is the Winchester model 97 pump. When they can see that hammer back they know you mean business.

DILLIGAF
01-02-08, 07:26 PM
I'm going to the gun show too!

EcSTSatic
01-02-08, 09:04 PM
My choice is the Winchester model 97 pump. When they can see that hammer back they know you mean business.

I don't think any intruder is going to pick up on a hammer when the gun is pointed at them. The sound of a pump locking and loading should be enough. If it's not and I'm still being threatened, then well you know the rest of the story.

EcSTSatic
01-02-08, 09:06 PM
I'm going to the gun show too!

It should be a good one. I'm planning on picking up some possum jerky too! (just kidding...about the jerky)

DILLIGAF
01-02-08, 09:12 PM
I need a new scope,I might trade something.

It's trash day here.

My dog is scared shitless of bubble wrap,what the ****?

I've been drinking