: I am addicted to LT1 powered B/D bodies!



96Fleetwood
12-31-07, 07:08 PM
I am ADDICTED!

I just bought a 1996 Roadmaster Limited Wagon last week:

http://i3.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/cd/2d/b303_3.JPG

Today, I bought a 1995 Roadmaster wagon with 80,000 miles from a neighbor of mine. He just got a Dodge Magnum SRT8 and was going to trade it in for next to nothing, that is where I stepped in!

So.. now I will have the 1996 Fleetwood, the 1994 Roadmaster Limited Sedan, the 1996 & 1995 Roadmaster wagons!

If anyone wants this wagon, I might put it up for sale. It is excellent shape, DCM, 2 owner, 80,000 miles with factory tow package (no hitch) with 2.93 gears and Posi.

A few pics:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/cadillaclover/BuickPic.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/cadillaclover/rmshouse.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/cadillaclover/rmw1.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/cadillaclover/rmw2.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/cadillaclover/rmw3.jpg

CadillacSTS42005
12-31-07, 08:19 PM
damn
time to change the sig

Cadillacboy
12-31-07, 08:30 PM
I kinda expected this thiread !
:thumbsup: :highfive:

c5 rv
12-31-07, 08:57 PM
I'll forward the link to a buddy of mine in Grand Rapids, MI. He's a dyed-in-the-wool Buick guy and has talked about getting another RM.

(I'll have to send it Weds. I don't have his current email address on my home computer.)

JTraik
12-31-07, 09:14 PM
While the gen II blocks are great, I still love the gen I blocks the most, mainly for their simplicity and reliability... Oh and thats one heck of a fleet you have man, I envy you!

Wheelman322
12-31-07, 09:25 PM
Beautiful additions to A beautiful fleet. I think I have the same prob with 78-92 FWB's.

96Fleetwood
12-31-07, 09:40 PM
Thanks! Happy New Year to everyone!

If anyone is interested in my '94 Roadmaster Limited sedan with 59,000 original miles, I would sell it for $3,000 :D

I would rather keep both wagons and sell the sedan!

caddycruiser
12-31-07, 11:18 PM
Elias...Elias...okay, NOW I think it's an issue:bonkers:...maybe:cool2:

You, uh, wouldn't be interested in a nicely kept Marble/Neutral '95 FWB...would ya (seriously);)

Destroyer
01-01-08, 12:22 AM
Elias you need help. Your situation has been getting worse as the years go by. Fine cars but why?. :cookoo::D

96Fleetwood
01-01-08, 01:54 AM
You, uh, wouldn't be interested in a nicely kept Marble/Neutral '95 FWB...would ya (seriously);)


Sure! Want to trade for one of the wagons? ;)

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-01-08, 04:03 AM
What LT-1 B/D body haven't you had?
IIRC, the only one you haven't had is the Caprice Classic Sedan.

96Fleetwood
01-01-08, 10:02 AM
What LT-1 B/D body haven't you had?
IIRC, the only one you haven't had is the Caprice Classic Sedan.

I still have to own a Impala SS and Caprice Sedan. I also need to buy a Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser and that will complete the set.

:cool2: I love these cars. I have a limited budget, so these cars work in my book!

AMGoff
01-01-08, 01:48 PM
Personally, I'd rather have the sedan than the wagon... put some pics up of it... who knows, you might pique my interest!

96Fleetwood
01-01-08, 01:55 PM
Personally, I'd rather have the sedan than the wagon... put some pics up of it... who knows, you might pique my interest!


I love the sedan, but I needed a tow vehicle for the Fleetwood that could also be a daily driver.

I am going to pick one of the wagons and build it for a class IV hitch to pull the Fleetwood around this show season.

I will post pics of the sedan soon with the eBay link.

Regards,
Elias

Lord Cadillac
01-01-08, 02:30 PM
I love the sedan, but I needed a tow vehicle for the Fleetwood that could also be a daily driver.

I am going to pick one of the wagons and build it for a class IV hitch to pull the Fleetwood around this show season.

I will post pics of the sedan soon with the eBay link.

Regards,
Elias
I hope you don't forget to give the guys on Buick Forums (http://www.buickforums.com) a shot at the Roadmaster! If I lived closer to you, I might even have taken a look..

96Fleetwood
01-01-08, 02:40 PM
http://www.buickforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6517


Already did ;)

My_favorite_Brougham
01-01-08, 05:49 PM
If you want a CC wagon, you can have mine for 3K... I've put 3k into it in addition to the purchase price, and she runs like a top... but as you can see, she needs a paint job. She fine other than that. Does need a headliner. Got a whole new A/c system... I call her "The Rolling Ice Box"

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x141/Shutterbug668/DSC00380.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x141/Shutterbug668/DSC00381.jpg

hueterm
01-01-08, 05:51 PM
I love the sedan, but I needed a tow vehicle for the Fleetwood that could also be a daily driver.

I am going to pick one of the wagons and build it for a class IV hitch to pull the Fleetwood around this show season.

I will post pics of the sedan soon with the eBay link.

Regards,
Elias


Does the sedan not have the tow package, or is the wagon able to tow more?

96Fleetwood
01-01-08, 06:15 PM
If you want a CC wagon, you can have mine for 3K... I've put 3k into it in addition to the purchase price, and she runs like a top... but as you can see, she needs a paint job. She fine other than that. Does need a headliner. Got a whole new A/c system... I call her "The Rolling Ice Box"


Thanks, but I am looking for the '91-92 Custom Cruiser, preferably one with the L05 350 :cool:



Does the sedan not have the tow package, or is the wagon able to tow more?

My sedan is not equipped with the tow package. They can tow the same if they are equipped with the factory tow package.

N0DIH
01-01-08, 10:36 PM
I have detailed out the tow package on this forum somewhere (look up Making a V4P).

But in a nutshell, it is a 3.42 geared FW with appropriate accumulators, special PCM tune (high line pressure and modified shift points), FE2 suspension, Eagle GA tires and towing wiring harness to the rear.

Nothing too special, but needed stuff to make it live long. Yes, it can be made.

My_favorite_Brougham
01-02-08, 01:51 AM
Hmm... now that you bring up the "whale body" Olds wagon, I'm really intrigued. I didn't even know Olds made the wagon with that design, but google proves otherwise. But I hear it was unpopular because of the engine options. Still, it sounds interesting. I don't even know what the interior would look like, since I've only seen Chevy, Buick, and Caddy "whale bodies." Was there ever a "whale body" Olds sedan to be the wagon's counterpart? Probably not, right? (has somebody ever made one?) As far as that goes, there's probably not a Pontiac Safari wagon in the whale body, since there's no Parisseane whale body.......darn! Why'd GM have to go and quit out on us? :crying: I suppose it's like looking for a '96 Fleetwood Wagon......... oh that WOULD be cool!! If only.....

96Fleetwood
01-02-08, 08:25 AM
I suppose it's like looking for a '96 Fleetwood Wagon......... oh that WOULD be cool!! If only.....

Don't worry, if I find the right 1996 Fleetwood Hearse, I am going to buy it and make it a Fleetwood wagon! :eek:

Destroyer
01-02-08, 09:19 AM
Don't worry, if I find the right 1996 Fleetwood Hearse, I am going to buy it and make it a Fleetwood wagon! :eek:Yeah but then you would have the ugly Hearse roofline. Would a Fleetwood front end fit on the Buick?. I'm talking bumper/hood/fenders, etc.

caddycruiser
01-03-08, 12:11 AM
Hmm... now that you bring up the "whale body" Olds wagon, I'm really intrigued. I didn't even know Olds made the wagon with that design, but google proves otherwise. But I hear it was unpopular because of the engine options. Still, it sounds interesting. I don't even know what the interior would look like, since I've only seen Chevy, Buick, and Caddy "whale bodies." Was there ever a "whale body" Olds sedan to be the wagon's counterpart? Probably not, right? (has somebody ever made one?) As far as that goes, there's probably not a Pontiac Safari wagon in the whale body, since there's no Parisseane whale body.......darn! Why'd GM have to go and quit out on us? :crying: I suppose it's like looking for a '96 Fleetwood Wagon......... oh that WOULD be cool!! If only.....

REALLY? It was just a Roadmaster wagon, inside and out, with Olds specific grille and fascia, wheels, and lower cladding. Then inside got Olds specific seat patterns, a different faux wood grain, gauges, steering wheel, and that was about it.

Only made them in 1991 (5.0L V8 only) and 1992 (5.0L & 5.7L). Quite rare, and identical to a '91-92 Roadmaster wagon (rear sunroof included), except for visually.

http://images.autotrader.com/images/2007/12/4/234/661/3515228208.234661965.IM1.08.565x421_A.565x419.jpg
http://images.autotrader.com/images/2007/12/4/234/661/3515228202.234661965.IM1.02.565x421_A.565x370.jpg
http://images.autotrader.com/images/2007/12/4/234/661/3515228203.234661965.IM1.03.565x421_A.562x421.jpg
http://images.autotrader.com/images/2007/12/4/234/661/3515228204.234661965.IM1.04.565x421_A.565x420.jpg
http://images.autotrader.com/images/2007/12/4/234/661/3515228206.234661965.IM1.06.565x421_A.565x408.jpg
http://images.autotrader.com/images/2007/8/30/228/880/2776703509.228880197.IM1.08.565x421_A.562x421.jpg
http://images.autotrader.com/images/2007/8/30/228/880/2776703510.228880197.IM1.09.565x421_A.562x421.jpg

I'd like one too...just for the rarity factor. An older local lady, who I see at church, has a FLAWLESS dark blue over dark blue '91 (can tell by the C-pillar shape, unique to the year) that looks & runs like a new car. I've always wanted to ask her about it...not sure, what, though. Think I'd most want a white '92 with the 5.7L and a tan interior.

There was never a "new" sedan, only the wagon and only for 2 years. And, unlike before, never anything Pontiac.

As for a Fleetwood wagon...people have played with it, including a guy I bought all the parts to repair my '95 off of. His friend has a '92 Caprice wagon and after he found a '93 Fleetwood for cheap, the friend took the front end to use in a transplant...and the rest was parted & sold. And I've seen another one, float around the Impala SS forum a long while back...partially done.

hueterm
01-03-08, 12:19 AM
I'd like the RM sedan Grill/Headlights on the wagon body.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-03-08, 01:10 AM
I love how the early Roadmasters and Custom Cruisers had full guages...you didn't see that enough in the '90s in full size cars.

I think it'd be awesome to make a Custom Cruiser Sedan....don't know what you'd call it though. Ninety Eight was already taken, and that was always the premier sedan. Starfire perhaps?

N0DIH
01-03-08, 01:57 AM
I always though the Olds variant was the best looking, was disappointed it never made it to the 94-96 models and got an LT1....

Olds always had a nice gauge package with bright needles and a good layout.

aamusls06
01-03-08, 04:24 AM
Man you've got one of the sickest Fleetwoods I've seen in my life. You've got an army of cars....lol. If finding the Impala works out for me I will be joining the B-Body family....haha

96Fleetwood
01-03-08, 08:27 AM
Thanks!

I have big plans for the Fleetwood. 383, forced induction, T56, 4.10s... but it is still a solid high 13 second sedan as it sits right now.

N0DIH
01-03-08, 12:47 PM
What is the list of mods as is?

96Fleetwood
01-03-08, 02:03 PM
3.73 gears with Eaton Posi, CIA Tubular headers with Borla cat-back exhaust, airpump delete, EGR delete, rear 02 delete, RAISS ram air intake, TB bypass, MSD spark plug wires & AC Delco Platinum plugs, 160 degree tstat, Hotchkis Front and Rear Sways, all polyurethane bushings, Moog upgraded bits, UMI upper and lower control arms, SS springs front 9C1 rear, Bilstein sports front, Bilstein HD rears, Slotted front rotors & ceramic pads, PCM tuning by PCM performance. 18X8.5 OZ Nova wheels with 235/50/18 Dunlop Sport MAXX A2 tires. That's all I can think of right now..... plus all the cosmetic mods.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/angelatruck/th_dynorun2.jpg (http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/angelatruck/?action=view&current=dynorun2.flv)

They went up to 138 mph on the dyno :yup:

N0DIH
01-03-08, 02:06 PM
And that got you to high 13's? Not bad! Stock cam/long block then? What seems to hold it back the most? The exhaust seems worst, the bends around the trans are pretty bad. My 80 T/A has a ton more room underneath....

96Fleetwood
01-03-08, 03:36 PM
In the spring she dyno'd 241 hp 289 ft/lbs torque to the rear wheels but was on a bad tune and the radiator busted so she was running hot.

In the fall she dyno'd at 287 hp 325 ft/lbs torque to the rear wheels on another dyno. I wanted to follow up at that same dyno I went to in the Spring, but they moved.

All together that list is roughly around $7,000 in modifications. I was going to put a cam, but I am saving to do the 383/T56 all at one time. I might just buy a Golen 383 next year and sell my current motor. We will see...

N0DIH
01-03-08, 04:22 PM
The headers are something I'd like to do, but my concern is reliability due to the miles I put on a year. Even tossed around the idea of a cheap set of generic headers to see how I liked headers, but again, reliability... I like the Doug Thorley's, but $$$. Clear Image are probably best choice....

What do you think of the RAISS, worth it? How does it work on a Fleetwood, need any mods?

96Fleetwood
01-03-08, 04:24 PM
The RAISS is awesome. It is completely bolt on, but will not work on your Fleetwood because the Mechanical Fan :(

The RAISS works better on the Fleetwood than any Bbody because it has a larger grill opening that shoots the air directly into the filter... real ram air.

My_favorite_Brougham
01-03-08, 04:32 PM
Whoa! Thanks Caddy Cruiser! That's really cool. And I really do like that interior, especially with the full gauges. And I'm diggin' those full-size alloys. It was about time they got rid of that dash they'd used since '77, which is the case, I guess for all the GM RWDs for that those eras. (still love the Caddy one, though ;)) I agree the CC was the best variant (unless a good Caddy one appears ;)), but the grill seems little too much like Hitler's mustache to me...lol...so early 90s, I guess.

N0DIH
01-03-08, 05:03 PM
Bummmmmer.... I have the dual fans in shed, but need the rest of the parts (shroud and such) to put them on. I do like the temp stability of the mech fan, but working on it (which is rare) is a pain. I am mixed about messing with it. I might have to work on something else, but I do want a straight shot ram air.....


The RAISS is awesome. It is completely bolt on, but will not work on your Fleetwood because the Mechanical Fan :(

The RAISS works better on the Fleetwood than any Bbody because it has a larger grill opening that shoots the air directly into the filter... real ram air.

96Fleetwood
01-14-08, 06:55 PM
The shipper delivered my 1996 RMW on Friday night! It runs great and looks great too. Only issue is this damn pass key light that stays on, I will have to replace the VATs box.

I took off the Roadmaster alloy wheels and put on a set of 2wd Suburban Rally wheels with Michelin snow tires. I added some Buick centercaps to the wheels. I have a set of Impala SS wheels to put on it this spring ;)

Here are a few pics:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/cadillaclover/Picture310.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/cadillaclover/Picture311.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/cadillaclover/Picture313.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/cadillaclover/Picture314.jpg

I have some good plans for this wagon, mainly setting it up for towing. We will see how that pans out.

Take care,
Elias

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-14-08, 07:04 PM
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/cadillaclover/Picture314.jpg




So that's where I get to park when I'm in Chicago.... cool! :)


Elias, I like the Suburban wheels on the RMW. Gives it a unique, "industrial" look, but it doesn't look cheap or tacky.

On a related note, today was a good day at work. I wrote up a CLS500 that we got in from the auction, and I got to drive a '92 Roadmaster Sedan.

L05 350 + Roadmaster Sedan = awesome.

96Fleetwood
01-15-08, 11:07 PM
Michelin snow tires rock. This Roadmaster wagon is a tank with them on!

I am trying to work a deal on a '96 BBB Impala SS... so this wagon might be up for sale :stirpot:

Destroyer
01-15-08, 11:30 PM
Michelin snow tires rock. This Roadmaster wagon is a tank with them on!

I am trying to work a deal on a '96 BBB Impala SS... so this wagon might be up for sale :stirpot:
What is a BBB Impala?:hmm:

N0DIH
01-16-08, 01:15 AM
Big Black and Beautiful!

Triple Black IIRC....

I~LUV~Caddys8792
01-16-08, 01:36 AM
Is there seriously no snow in Downer's Grove? That's so cool.

N0DIH
01-16-08, 01:58 AM
Not this week! At least not here in Rockford, but up 50 miles into Wisconsin, there is plenty....