: Fixed my turntable.... lots of home audio pictures...



Night Wolf
12-19-07, 06:41 PM
So before my hobby of cars...wayyy back when, I was into home audio equipment... more specifically, vintage home audio gear, mostly 70's solid state stuff as I haven't gotten into tubes yet. I like older things that stand the test of time, cars, airplanes.... home audio gear etc... :)

So I'll admit, once I got my car I really wasn't into the hobby much anymore, I'd have everything set up, but I woudln't enjoy it like I used to. See, at the time I had gotten the exact receiver and speakers I had wanted (took a long time to get there though) so once I got them and had my fun, which shortly after I got the Coupe, I was pretty much done with it at that point.

I dragged everything to Florida, where I had the system setup in my apartment, and aside from the occasional listen, it never got used, then it all came to Georgia, where it was again quickly setup but never used.... until last week :)

See I started helping out with the audio/video stuff at my church, its a small church that started eariler this year, we rent the building for the morning, so everything is setup then torn down and loaded into a small enclosed trailer... but some how the mix of amp, speakers, sound board and cables really sparked my intrest in audio again.

So I started tinkering with my gear. My main receiver (the one I worked up to get) is a Sansui 9090DB, it is an awesome receiver, but I also have an Onkyo TX-2500 MKII, which is close to bottom of the line (while the Sansui was top of the line) Something that has bugged me since I got the Onkyo for either $25 or $35 at Salvation Army in NY, was that... it sounds alot better then my 9090DB.... and that should not be the case at all... My 9090DB needs to be recapped and restored to bring it back to its origanal glory, and thats why I've held onto it despite it not sounding as good as it should, because one day I want to send it out and get it refurbished so I can really enjoy it.

I was talking with my friend who lives in Hawaii, we first met on an audio forum years and years ago, he was happy to know I was getting back in the hobby, and when I mentioned (again) that my little Onkyo has a better sound to it then the 9090DB... he offered to send me a 2nd Sansui AU-517 integrated amp that he had, but really didn't have a use for... it was broke and left at the shop at his tech school when he was in college, so he took it and fixed it... the entire amp has been recapped (pretty much what my 9090DB needs) So he sent it out... I got it... and... man it's really gotten me back into the hobby! It is an awesome amp, I am really enjoying it.

So anyway, about my turbtable, its been broke for about a year now, See, its not like most tt's in that it is direct or belt drive, it uses an idler pully, simialr to a snow blower. The spring that keeps tension on the pully against the motor shaft was very weak, and finally broke, since then I've left it and haven't fixed it.... but today I got inspiration, so I took it apart and looked at it.... I fixed it using the spring from a clickly ball point pen.... man it works great! I am so happy to have my turntable working again... nothing like listening to good quality vinyl :)

My turntable is a BSR 810 Transcription with a Shure M91ED cartridge. I got this for $6 at Goodwill. The cart was on it already too, but I've replaced the stylus. BSR mostly made junk, but this was their top line turn table, and built super well, it is very solid. It was built in the UK IIRC. The whole thing is mechanical, which is pretty neat. It's not the best out there, but it gets the job done... I like it.

Here is the platter removed, under the idler pully is the spring I replaced to make it work again...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07206.jpg

The platter is solid and very heavy, it has a rubber mat on it, but I got a nice little turntable mat that is alot better on the records for letting it slide when removing and putting them on.... this was one of my favorite stores when I lived in Clearwater...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07207.jpg

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dust cover on:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07209.jpg

The end result:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07181.jpg

Night Wolf
12-19-07, 07:01 PM
So the rest of the gear...

here is my new Sansui AU-517. Made in 1978, it is 65watts per channel (wpc) Which is plenty. See my 9090DB is 125wpc, that thing is a beast, but my little Onkyo is only 35wpc, yet that would push my speakers to levels higher then I'd normally listen to, and sound very good doing it. The 65wpc of the AU-517 is nearly perfect, because it does keep me from pushing it too loud, as I have done in the past.

The AU-517 is the smaller brother to the AU-717, they were marketed and sold side by side. The main difference is the 717 is 85wpc, and has a few extra features on the pre-amp side.... most of which I wouldn't need and the extra power, while nice, isn't needed as my speakers are very efficent. I've had huge monster receivers in the past, but somehow I really like the simple, no-nonsense design of the AU-517.

It is a Direct Coupled amp, and it is a dual mono design, which is very cool. It's got seperate power supplies and amps for each channel, very neat.... removing the cover is the equivlent of looking at audio porn. Despite my 9090DB being a top line model and what many consider the pinnacle of Sansui solid state, taking a look inside leaves alot to be desired, it's built very well, it just dosn't show it off nearly as well as the AU-517.

The matching tuner to the AU-517 is the TU-517, but I've already got a vintage Sony and JVC tuner, so I think I'll be set for now.

Mine also has the neat rack handles, they can be removed, but I think they are pretty cool, so on they stay :)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07180.jpg

A peak inside revels stright up vintage home audio porn....

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07187.jpg

Here is the Onkyo TX-2500 MKII. Very awesome little receiver, 35wpc. I don't plan on selling this.... I'll always have a use for it either as a bedroom system or garage system or something, it's got a very nice sound to it.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07192.jpg

Here is my Sansui 9090DB, 125wpc. Very awesome receiver, when I wanted my "top of the line" receiver, it was between this, a Kenwood KR-9600 or a Pioneer SX-1280 (or 1250) but I ultimately decided on the 9090DB.... I've been very happy with it, its just disapointing that the sound isn't anywhere it should be, so i've been holding onto it planning on having it resotred one day. I could sell it, but I like having it around.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07193.jpg

My CD player is a Nakamichi CD Player2 Limited. Built in 1991, its a very high end player with specs that match new pricey players. This is cdp is very cool for a few reasons, first is, it has a variable output, with volume control on the remote. One of the worst things about running vintage gear is, no remote. Well, when listening to CD's it's really nice to be able to control the volume via remote.

On top of that, the CD player has Nakamichi's Music Bank system. Basically, its a single disc drawer CD player, but it can store 6+1 CD's, 1-6 in store mode, plus "single" basically you load the CDs in it, and once in, it can change between all the discs internally and via remote... so I can literally spend hours just sitting in the recliner listening to CD's, and thats where the volume control via remote control comes in really handy :)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07198.jpg

Somehow though, despite the convience and features of the cdp, its just not as fun and rewarding as the turn table, plus, IMO vinyl sounds better then CD anyway. But I dunno, its easy to plop a CD in and hit play.... but the joy isn't there... its kinda like driving an automatic vs. manual trans car.... yeah, one is more convienent, but there is a certain level of connection involved with the other.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07213.jpg

dkozloski
12-19-07, 07:11 PM
I just gave my whole setup away: Empire turntable, Marantz pre-amp and amp, Teac reel to reel tape drive, the cassette player was produced by some Boeing engineers, tuner was high end, Wharfdale W90 speakers and about 300lbs. of vinyl records. It was all just collecting dust.

ejguillot
12-19-07, 07:17 PM
Very nice collection Rick! I have vintage gear also, some of which is running and some of which needs work.

Need work:

Pioneer SX-1080 (120wpc, not running, blows fuses)
Marantz 4400: (quad receiver, 50wx4 or 125wx2, scope, needs a recap and a reworked light section)
Marantz 2230: (30wpc, weak channel)

Running:
Marantz 2275 (75wpc, could use a cleaning, will be recapped in the future)
Marantz TA-165 (Mid 80's receiver, 165wpc, looks kind of cheesy but the build quality went into the amp section - reports are that this can hang with most 70's receivers of the same wpc)
Thorens TD-165 turntable (belt drive, Grado Black cartridge)
Pioneer CLD-703 CD/LD player (one of the best laserdisc players eer sold in the US)

The 2275 is my current main receiver, with the Turntable, LD player, and my main computer (Power Mac G4 MDD) hooked into it, driving 2 Infinity RSb speakers (10" woofer, 5" midrange, EMIT tweeter).

The TD-165 is hooked to a second set of Infinity RSb's.

What speakers do you use with your system?

Edwin

Night Wolf
12-19-07, 07:24 PM
Ah yes... speakers... My choice of speakers years ago, which are still personal favorites, are the JBL L100's. Basically the consumer version of the 4311 studio monitors. I really like these speakers alot, being able to stand the test of time and continue to flat out crank and sound darn good doing it is just cool IMO.

I bought these quite a while ago. The guy was parting them out, but I managed to catch him before anything sold (they are worth more parted out then whole) Mine, while sonically sound great, are not in the best cosmetic shape. The cabinates are somewhat rough. When I got them I sanded them down, stained them and polyurethaned them, I also repainted the front face black. I have home made speaker grilles for them that I recovered with nice speaker grille fabric, but I never use them.

This is an origanal pair, never split up, the tweeters in it are not origanal, they are actually my 3rd set, I used to be crazy with the volume control (when I had them bi-amped with 2 Kenwood KR-8010 150wpc reveivers!) I still have the origanal tweeters though, one is blown, but I'd like to get them reconned some day. The midrange in this speaker has a small hole poked thru it, by me, with a screw driver... I glued it up, no sonic difference, so it stays. The speakers have been internally rewired, as the origanal stuff wasn't that good, and the woofer in this speaker pictured had to have the spider wires replaced. But they are awesome, and I really enjoy them. My particular models are the latest of the late versions, 1978, as they have the 123A-3 woofer (eariler versions had the 123A-1) and the JBL logo on the front is orange, but also the presence and brilliance controls are scaled from 0-10, not -3 to +3 like all the others.

JBL considerd them a "book shelf" speaker.... but they are quite big. 3-way 12" woofer, around 45lbs each. All 3 drivers have AlNiCo magnets, which are twice as strong as normal magnets... these things are built well. Subwoofers aren't needed as these have amazing bass response, literally shakes the house. Of course I listen to music with tone controls defeated and no loudness or anything, it's just an awesome sound.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07182.jpg

The L100's were quite popular in the 70's, more recording studios used the L100/4311 then all other speakers conbined too. So naturally when Maxell started their ad compaign for their cassette tapes in their "blown away" poster... their only choice was to use L100's as speakers :) For a while if you wrote to Maxell they were sending these posters out for free, there was no way I could let something like that pass me by...

L100's in the Blown Away ad:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07194.jpg

Here is a picture of the whole system. Everything is a huge mess, like I said, before last week I wasn't even using everything, so it was just roughly setup and left alone. I was going to move the music gear into the room that is currently my bedroom (alot bigger) and move my bedroom into this room, but eh, I am not in the mood to do that right now, plus I don't know how much longer I'll be in this house right now. Like I said, its a big mess, but when I put my favorite record or CD in and close my eyes... none of that matters :) I built the rack myself, its a very sturdy design, I can sit on the top of it and it dosn't even feel stressed at all. I made a 4th shelf for it, but at the time didn't need it and I haven't seen it since I left NY :( oh well, it was only about $80 in supplied and a weekend of my time... I'd like to build another one some day.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07200.jpg

Heh, I have little external power meters hooked up to it... I've kinda got a thing for power meters... its like a tachometer on a car... my 9090DB has built in power meters (much more responsive then these) but these are still cool, so I have them hooked up... fun to watch, not exactly accurate though. The little black line before the numbers is the "50" mark, just goes to show how the louder you go the more power you need, at a much higher rate.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07205.jpg

My small collection of vinyl... in NY there was a store that sold used records (in good shape) and Vinyl Fever was flat out awesome, I gotta find a place around here that has them... I know Hot Topic sells new vinyl, but their selection is very limited.

No I don't have a Parasound 5ch power amp... thats the (double) box my friend sent the AU-517 in... all the way from Hawaii :)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07201.jpg

This is for Chad :) :

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Still sounds great:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/audio/12-19-07/12-19-07204.jpg

Ranger
12-19-07, 07:26 PM
Hey Nightwolf, since you seem to be well versed in this, maybe you can help me. I too have an old Marrantz 2245 that I love. Also have a couple of big, beautiful Sansui SP1000 speakers. One of the speakers sounds as though it has a blown speaker in it (I haven't checked yet). Any idea where to start looking for a replacement if that is what I need?

Night Wolf
12-19-07, 07:33 PM
I just gave my whole setup away: Empire turntable, Marantz pre-amp and amp, Teac reel to reel tape drive, the cassette player was produced by some Boeing engineers, tuner was high end, Wharfdale W90 speakers and about 300lbs. of vinyl records. It was all just collecting dust.

:( *sniffles*

Night Wolf
12-19-07, 07:37 PM
Hey Nightwolf, since you seem to be well versed in this, maybe you can help me. I too have an old Marrantz 2245 that I love. Also have a couple of big, beautiful Sansui SP1000 speakers. One of the speakers sounds as though it has a blown speaker in it (I haven't checked yet). Any idea where to start looking for a replacement if that is what I need?

Is the driver actually blown?

If its a woofer, and it has foam surround, chances are the foam is shot, you can get new surround put on a driver for pretty cheap, just gotta find out who does it in your area.

If the speaker itself is blown, you can get it re-coned, which can be expensive, otherwise the best bet would be to check ebay, thats where I got my extra L100 tweeters. Other then that, I'm not too sure.

I've always been a fan of the vintae Marrantz, the blue lights are cool :) Though I've never had any of their gear.

ejguillot
12-19-07, 07:38 PM
To all the readers of this thread: If audio advice is what you're looking for, go to audiokarma.org for all you can use. It's a forum like this one, but dedicated to all things audio. Ranger, they have a fairly big Marantz section, and the Sansui section is even bigger.

Ranger
12-19-07, 07:40 PM
Thanks, I'll check it out.

Night Wolf
12-19-07, 07:55 PM
Very nice collection Rick! I have vintage gear also, some of which is running and some of which needs work.

Need work:

Pioneer SX-1080 (120wpc, not running, blows fuses)
Marantz 4400: (quad receiver, 50wx4 or 125wx2, scope, needs a recap and a reworked light section)
Marantz 2230: (30wpc, weak channel)

Running:
Marantz 2275 (75wpc, could use a cleaning, will be recapped in the future)
Marantz TA-165 (Mid 80's receiver, 165wpc, looks kind of cheesy but the build quality went into the amp section - reports are that this can hang with most 70's receivers of the same wpc)
Thorens TD-165 turntable (belt drive, Grado Black cartridge)
Pioneer CLD-703 CD/LD player (one of the best laserdisc players eer sold in the US)

The 2275 is my current main receiver, with the Turntable, LD player, and my main computer (Power Mac G4 MDD) hooked into it, driving 2 Infinity RSb speakers (10" woofer, 5" midrange, EMIT tweeter).

The TD-165 is hooked to a second set of Infinity RSb's.

What speakers do you use with your system?

Edwin

Nice gear!

Man this still is like a drug.... I used to buy and sell soo many, then I got out of it, now I am getting into it again.

Besides the gear I mentioned, I still have a Sony TA-2650 integrated amp and an ST-5650 (IIRC tuner) this Sony integrated amp is what started me in vintage home audio gear in the first place... 45wpc, not as good comapred to the Sansui's but I still like it. I've also got a vintage JVC tuner that looks pretty good, I don't remember the model number.

Other gear I've had in the past.... a 2nd 9090DB that was in alot worse shape (physically) then mine, I also had a 2nd Sony TA-2650.

I had a sansui G-7700 receiver, which was very cool it was right before everything went tot he 80's black plastic, it was still a well built silver faced metal knob receiver, but instead of VU power meters, it had LED meters, and it had a full scale analog tuner, but it also had a digital tuning display and digital tuning/signal strength meters, that was cool. Another neat thing was how the Sansui logo was kinda like frosted into the glass, and the glass was lit from the edges, so the logo glowed. Thatg receiver, like my AU-517 was also DC, it was cool how it said PURE POWER right on the front. 120wpc, very cool receiver, but it had a lot of issues with it, and it was in the way of getting what I wanted at the time, the 9090DB, so I had to let it go... I'd like to find a G-9700 someday though, the top of the G-series lineup.

I also had teo Kenwood KR-8010's.... again... I let them go because they were not top of the line, but they were 2nd from top of the line, but no power meters, which is something I wanted. one had the really rare full wood case, one was mint and worked great the other was pretty rough and the preamp was bad, but I used it as a power amp... these things were monsters, IIRC Kenwood said 150wpc, but they were tested to actually put out near 180wpc at the rated THD etc.... either way when I was alot younger and in NY... I decided it would be a great idea to bi-amp the L100's using those two receivers.... it wasn't until I had them flat out cranking and decided it would be cool to turn loudness on, that I blew out my tweeters.... I didn't learn the first time either, cause I did that a 2nd time too.... man, I don't know what the heck I was thinking, all I know is that it was soo loud, things were falling off the walls from upstairs.... No more of that for me at all... I'm very, very content with my 65wpc Sansui AU-517 now :) man it goes plenty loud as it is too.

I think I had a few other pieces too, but those are what I remember.... quite a fun hobby. I know I've thought about selling everything in the past as I could get a nice chunk of change for it on ebay, but I always held myself back knowing one day I would regret it.... man, I am glad I've still got it all now :)

I was watching Fast and the Furoius Toyko Drift on the laptop with sound output to the sound system..... man it sounds awesome, movies in 2ch is awesome, because this whole home theater thing is crazy, its like computers now, every year there are more channels and more formats, I could never see spending the money on an expensive HT system... atleast 2ch will always be around.

Speaker of HT, I do have a very basic HT system in the living room, the same one I've had for the last 4 years, just something to watch movies and play Playstation with.... a JVC RX-6010 receiver, the all magical "100watts x5" Dolby Digital/dts/Pro-Logic 5.1. For mains I have JBL N24's and a JBL N-center, and rear speakers are KLH 970A (the $20.pair 3-way 4" woofer indoor/door special at best Buy 4 years ago) and my sub was once a passive Optimus sub that now has a 150watt amp in and the driver has been replaced by some generic subwoofer from ebay... basically its nothing special, but manages to actually sound somewhat decent durring a movie... oh well, it gets the job done.... its nice having a remote and sleep timer tho :)

Cadillacboy
12-19-07, 08:02 PM
That's a nice collection . I didn't know you've such a cool collection

Night Wolf
12-19-07, 08:09 PM
To all the readers of this thread: If audio advice is what you're looking for, go to audiokarma.org for all you can use. It's a forum like this one, but dedicated to all things audio. Ranger, they have a fairly big Marantz section, and the Sansui section is even bigger.

Heh, you must have posted this at the same time I sent you a PM about the same thing.... Tho I told you my disclaimer in the PM :)

Lotta knowladge at AK... I will say that.

Jesda
12-19-07, 08:20 PM
I had that EXACT Pioneer receiver! I gave mine away because the speaker output was crackling. As a headphone amp it sounded amazing.

I wish I kept it.

Playdrv4me
12-20-07, 02:28 AM
I have a few posts in the TV Wanted section of Audiokarma. Neat forum, you have to get approved by the mod before you can post.

Night Wolf
12-20-07, 04:32 AM
I had that EXACT Pioneer receiver! I gave mine away because the speaker output was crackling. As a headphone amp it sounded amazing.

I wish I kept it.

The SX-1050?

Nice receiver.... crackling speaker output could have been a number of things.

I guess giving it away is alot better then throwing it away, sadly as alot of people do because they are "heavy old stereos"

The build quality of any of these mentioned units puts new gear to shame, until you start to really spend the mega bucks.... back then it wasn't all mass-market, that started in the 80's when quality took a dive.... it was still prestigous to go into a stereo shop and walk out with one of these things.

DaveSmed
12-20-07, 05:01 AM
To all the readers of this thread: If audio advice is what you're looking for, go to audiokarma.org for all you can use. It's a forum like this one, but dedicated to all things audio. Ranger, they have a fairly big Marantz section, and the Sansui section is even bigger.

I'll have to check it out, see if I can find anything on this pair of speakers I have. Ever hear of a Seeburg DDS1? I know there very loud, and also very heavy. Beyond that, not so much.

EcSTSatic
12-20-07, 09:12 AM
"Vintage 70's"?? I resemble that remark!
The only original piece of equipment I have left from my tour is SE Asia is my Pioneer PL550 quartz lock turntable. I don't have pictures of mine but this is what it looks like. I plan to convert some of my LPs to digital over the Christmas break
http://saturdayaudio.com/picturepages/pioneer_pl550_turntable.htm


Does anyone remember "quad" stereo? Everyone in my squadron was buying quad equipment but I stuck to 2Ch stereo. I got the last laugh.

Submariner409
12-20-07, 10:19 AM
All my gear, except for a Marchand crossover and Dynalab tuner, is tube, including the output section of the CD player. Luckily, I have collected 8 Hickok, EICO, and B&K tube testers over the years, so I can test and match to my heart's content. Got thousands of tubes.. With over 4,200 LP's, I use an Oracle Delphi IV turntable with a Lyra Helikon MC cartridge. Been collecting LP's since the '60's.

For info and grins, try www.audioasylum.com (http://www.audioasylum.com) , and www.musicdirect.com (http://www.musicdirect.com) sells a LOT of new and reissue vinyl as well as electronics, both tube and s/s.

Night Wolf
12-20-07, 02:03 PM
My forum days all started with AudioReview, where I met my friend from Hawaii, Over the years I've been on AudioAsylum, AudioKarma, AudioCircle and even had my own forums going for a year or so, AudioPost, There were probably others too... I think around 2000 is when I started getting into audio and going on the forums and stuff? Then in 2003 I got the car and pretty much got out of the audio stuff. Now I am enjoying it again, though I don't think I'll be buying anything new for a long time.

heavymetals
12-20-07, 02:52 PM
I still have my Thorens (td125 mkII)with a RABCO arm.

That is/was just the beginning.

I have a tri amped JBL system, McIntosh amplifiers, Teac elect crossover,
REVOX reel to reels, JBL amplifiers (very rare).

All this stuff has been storage.

I used to be an audio nut, and worked for a manufacture in service.

Ranger
12-20-07, 03:51 PM
All this talk about Sansui brings back memories. As I said, I still have the Sansui SP1000 speakers. I had a Sansui tuner/amp that I bought at the same time, but sold it to upgrade to the Marrantz 2270. Cant even remember the model of the tuner or what it looked like.

Yeah, I remember the quad channel. Never really took off.

Submariner409
12-20-07, 04:36 PM
Hey, Heavymetals............RABCO sure upset the audio world when they marketed the straight line arm. Started a small revolution. Had 2 of the newer REVOX 10 1/2" decks, not the G36, after that (A77 ??). Great decks with gray/silver front and wood case. Tons of old Scotch 203. (models......does K&B35, Fox35, Ringmaster, Half Fast, Testors, butyrate, amyl acetate, Silkspan, Ambroid bring back memories ???)

Sansui SP1000's, with the wood grille???? Holy Cow.....we sold those and the SP2000 at the Audio Club in Naples in the late '60's !!! (The foam woofer surrounds must be gonzo, though.......) Sansui was still making tube gear then.......The hot "turntable" was a Dual 1019, right along with the (real) AR, and the Shure M75E cartridge. Moving coils were exotic, rare, and screechy.

EcSTSatic
12-20-07, 04:40 PM
My old Sansui 881. It's long gone now. My "newer" receiver manages all of my audio and video inputs to the speakers and/or 40" screen

http://www.sansui.us/images/881_Series/881_2.jpg

Ranger
12-20-07, 10:30 PM
Hey, Heavymetals............RABCO sure upset the audio world when they marketed the straight line arm. Started a small revolution. Had 2 of the newer REVOX 10 1/2" decks, not the G36, after that (A77 ??). Great decks with gray/silver front and wood case. Tons of old Scotch 203. (models......does K&B35, Fox35, Ringmaster, Half Fast, Testors, butyrate, amyl acetate, Silkspan, Ambroid bring back memories ???)

Sansui SP1000's, with the wood grille???? Holy Cow.....we sold those and the SP2000 at the Audio Club in Naples in the late '60's !!! (The foam woofer surrounds must be gonzo, though.......) Sansui was still making tube gear then.......The hot "turntable" was a Dual 1019, right along with the (real) AR, and the Shure M75E cartridge. Moving coils were exotic, rare, and screechy.
Yup. They have the wood latice grill. Look just like the day they came out of the box. Still sounds great. I was going to post a picture that I found yesterday, but I can't remember where I saw it.

I think the turntable I have is a Dual 1212.

All this talk got me to crank it up this morning. One speaker was out (phono only). Could get it back by pressing the left speaker "mono" button. Worked OK in FM. Figured it must be turntable assossiated so I started twisting phono plugs and got it working. I guess they were a little oxidized.

I noticed that the station indicator is "off" a bit on the Marrantz 2270 and the dial seems to slip a bit. Does anyone know if that is an easy fix or do I have to take it in somewhere? Seems to me that it should be a fairly easy DIY job.

eldorado99
12-20-07, 10:35 PM
Does anyone remember "quad" stereo? Everyone in my squadron was buying quad equipment but I stuck to 2Ch stereo. I got the last laugh.

Yes I do my friend! I use this one as a stereo amp only actually and it works pretty well in that respect, it was made in 1971 and has a wood grille, my dad bought it brand new back then so I don't ever want to part with it. Although it is not too terribly popular anyway:http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/eldorado99/amp002.jpg

This is my main stereo amp Onkyo Integra A-8087 made in the early 80s, very nice amp, currently needs a few fixes done which I plan to do sometime:http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/eldorado99/amp003.jpg

This is my home theatre amp, nothing special here, just a nice well-rounded Denon: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/eldorado99/amp005.jpg


Here are my favourite speakers Paradigm 9SE, far from the best speakers in the world, but nice speakers nonetheless: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/eldorado99/amp004.jpg

77CDV
12-21-07, 12:33 AM
It's been a while since I've seen equipment like that. I'll really be impressed, though, when Rick acquires a hand-cranked Victrola. One of the Magnavox consoles from the 50's or 60's would be nice, too.

eldorado99
12-21-07, 12:36 AM
I meant to add to my previous post that one of the reasons I like that Quadraphonic Sansui is that it looks like a mid-late seventies Lincoln dash. :D

ejguillot
12-21-07, 01:02 AM
eldorado99, nice Paradigms. Those look like very nice speakers. I remember the Onkyo, my dad had the A-8067 (next model down).

Reading this thread inspired me to drag my Marantz 2230 out of the closet and see what was wrong with it. So far: a balance control in dire need of cleaning.

Treated it with Caig DeOxit FaderLube (read about it at www.deoxit.com, I got my can at Guitar Center), waiting for it to dry out before powering on.

Ranger, that tuning string can be adjusted, the service manual has the procedure. In a nutshell, you can adjust the pointer location on the string, an d there is a tension spring pulling the string taut. If you do go in, try using some FaderLube on the front panel controls.

I had recapped the 2230 recently. I replaced all the electrolytic caps with Panasonic FM caps, FC caps where the FM's weren't available in the values needed, and Nichicon PW where the panasonics weren't available. The power supply cap and speaker caps (the 2230 is capacitor coupled) were Panasonic TSHA's.

Only issue I have to fix is that the stereo light isn't coming on in FM mode. That was going on before the recap.

Service manuals are a requirement! (Just as they're needed by us who work on our Cadillacs.) I have the service manuals for the 2230, 2275, and the SX-1080.

Night Wolf
12-21-07, 01:31 AM
See, now everyone is getting interested in their old gear and pulling them out and trying them again... its contagious :)

ejguillot
12-21-07, 02:04 AM
Yes it is contagious! Wonder if dkoz is getting a twinge of regret at having given away his gear. Hope it went to someone who is using it today.

Anyhow, the 2230 is back together and singing away through a set of Pioneer CS-R500 speakers. This will be the bedroom system.

Pics coming soon!

Ranger
12-21-07, 01:45 PM
Ranger, that tuning string can be adjusted, the service manual has the procedure. In a nutshell, you can adjust the pointer location on the string, an d there is a tension spring pulling the string taut. If you do go in, try using some FaderLube on the front panel controls.
Thanks, I'll look into it. As Nightwolf said. I'm getting the bug again. Where would be a good place to look for a service manual? I'll check into the faderlube. Wouldn't Brakleen or CRC electrical parts cleaner work?

Cadillacboy
12-21-07, 01:53 PM
Since we have a audio thread this is what happened today .So, I have a Sony Collosseum with a tape deck stuck .No matter how hard I press the eject button I couldn't get to the cassette lol . I left it untouched for a month or so and guess what happened .I gave it a try and pried open so the eject button worked this time lol

Night Wolf
12-21-07, 03:20 PM
Thanks, I'll look into it. As Nightwolf said. I'm getting the bug again. Where would be a good place to look for a service manual? I'll check into the faderlube. Wouldn't Brakleen or CRC electrical parts cleaner work?

I got mine off ebay (copies) but if you do Google searches, there are some companies that sell copies too.

Audio Advisor sells the Caig Pro Gold deoxit stuff, it works really good, but it isn't the be-all end-all cure to every problem that some fourms make it out to be... still tho, its not too expensive does a great job.

ejguillot
12-21-07, 06:14 PM
Thanks, I'll look into it. As Nightwolf said. I'm getting the bug again. Where would be a good place to look for a service manual? I'll check into the faderlube. Wouldn't Brakleen or CRC electrical parts cleaner work?

Brakleen? :eek: NNOOOOOO!!!!!!! :tisk: CRC contact cleaner? Maybe, but I wouldn't risk it.

The risk is that the chemicals in some of those cleaners may damage the plastic bits inside the switches/pots. And the only replacements for some of those is a parts unit.

I've used DeOxit (and now FaderLube) on the volume & balance pots (and all the other switches/pots) before. The advantage of FaderLube is that is has a little bit of lubricant mixed in the cleaner spray, so the pots will stay noise free for a longer period of time.

Ranger
12-21-07, 07:23 PM
Roger that. Thanks again.

Ranger
12-21-07, 09:58 PM
Well, did some searching and found a free download PDF manual online. I am smart enough to know that is WAAAAY over my head. I will get some cleaner and try to clean sone connections just for the hell of it and try to adjust the freq. pointer. I think I can handle that, but anything else I think is best left to the pro's.

ejguillot
12-22-07, 12:23 AM
Ranger, sounds like a plan. Good luck, and remember to unplug the unit before you spray the cleaner (and let the cleaner evaporate away before restoring power).

To clean a volume pot (for example):

1) Unplug unit
2) Take off all the covers
3) Find a gap in the pot big enough to squirt some cleaner in (with the little tube that goes on the can)
4) Squirt a little bit in the pot, then turn the pot back and forth all the way about 50 times or so to clean the track the contacts ride on

Repeat for the other pots.

Switches are a little different, you don't want to pull the button caps off the switches, as there's a risk that you'll break the switch shaft. To get the cleaner in, stand the unit on its back and squirt some of the cleaner so it dribbles down the shaft into the switch mechanism.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Ranger
12-22-07, 07:14 PM
Thanks ejguillot. By "pot" I assume you mean whatever is on the backside of the rotating knobs? Now the ssearch starts for Deoxit or Faderlube. Radio Shack perhaps?

Night Wolf
12-22-07, 07:58 PM
pot = potentiometer (sp) Yes, any of the rotating knobs, volume controls, tone, balance, input etc... same with the switches... basically the process he said above is what you do to clean them.

Rat-Shack is a big N-O, they don't have the good stuff, and the stuff they do carry isn't good.... AudioAdvisor (.com) has the ProGold, not sure on the other stuff.

ejguillot
12-22-07, 09:21 PM
Ranger, any stores for musicians (Guitar Center, Sam Ash, etc.) near you? If not, Parts Express (www.partsexpress.com) carries FaderLube (brand: Caig Chemicals).

I'm now working on my Marantz 2275 (replace burned out bulbs, clean pots/switches, do amplfier DC bias/offset check).

Ranger
12-22-07, 09:36 PM
pot = potentiometer :duh:

Must be a music store around here somewhere. Never had a need to look before. I'll find one. I think there is on on the way to work as a last resort.

Night Wolf
12-22-07, 10:29 PM
It's good to see everyone getting back in the hobby :)

Submariner409
12-22-07, 11:40 PM
For all sorts of new and old fixit stuff, go to www.antiqueelectronicsupply.com (http://www.antiqueelectronicsupply.com) in Tempe, AZ. They have all the above cleaners and replacements, PLUS. Give one of your children or grandchildren one of their crystal or DIY audio radio kits. Instant knowledge.

Ranger
12-29-07, 10:37 PM
Well, I found a music store near by, but they did not have Fader Lube. They did have Deoxit D5. It is intended for just what we are talking about so I bought that. Got ambitious today and took the Marantz apart. Sprayed all the Pots & jacks. Everything seems to work and sound perfect. The tuner indicator was off and the dial was slipping. I managed to tighten up the pulley string so there is no more slippage and even reset the string so that the indicator is now in sync with the actual frequency. It was a rather productive afternoon.

ejguillot
12-30-07, 02:07 AM
:highfive: Well done, Ranger! How's the Marantz singing now? The Deoxit D5 is good and won't hurt the pots, but you will have to redo the job in a year or 2. The lack of lubricant is the culprit.

Here are some pics of my Marantz units. First 2 are of my 2230 with the LED lighting behind the dial (note the dark blue), and the next 2 are of the 2275 with traditional fuse lamps. I ran out of spare fuse lamps and will likely go the LED route.

Night Wolf
12-30-07, 04:25 AM
:highfive: Well done, Ranger! How's the Marantz singing now? The Deoxit D5 is good and won't hurt the pots, but you will have to redo the job in a year or 2. The lack of lubricant is the culprit.

Here are some pics of my Marantz units. First 2 are of my 2230 with the LED lighting behind the dial (note the dark blue), and the next 2 are of the 2275 with traditional fuse lamps. I ran out of spare fuse lamps and will likely go the LED route.

WOW, I like the blue LED alot!

I thought about the same thing with my 9090DB, the backlights for the tuner are sorta tealish color and a nice deep blue would be awesome..... what did you do for the conversion?

Ranger
12-30-07, 05:19 PM
Well done, Ranger! How's the Marantz singing now? The Deoxit D5 is good and won't hurt the pots, but you will have to redo the job in a year or 2. The lack of lubricant is the culprit.
It sounds great. Funny you should mention lubricant, because when I asked about it at the store I bought the Deoxit D5 from, he said he did not think there was any lube in the pots.

My 2270 looks closer to the 2230 you show than the 2275. Not sure what the differences are though. Hope none of my lights go out. It did not look like a fun job getting at them and I'm not sure I would know how to convert to LED.

Submariner409
12-30-07, 07:06 PM
Some pots have a silicone gel on the shaft, isolated by 2 O-rings, which gives the pot a smooth, resistant feel. The "lube" referred to in DeOxit and Cramolin products is actually a dry silicone carried in the electronic cleaner spray, whether a fluorocarbon (ozone nasty) or solvent. It's used to lube the resistor slider fingers in the pot.

LED's are pretty easy to substitute for either cartridge or socket type bulbs. Takes a bit of dropping resistor calculation and soldering, but it can be done. BUT, the light pattern of a LED is pretty focused, while the panel lights in Marantz, McIntosh, Sansui, and a lot of others use a 6.3v or 9v cartridge or bayonet base bulb with a blue or green sleeve because of the greater light diffusion. Edge-lit dial faces, like ejguillot's, respond really well to 2 or 3 LED's on each end.

Go back up 5 posts and look at Antique Electronic Supply.

ejguillot
12-30-07, 10:38 PM
WOW, I like the blue LED alot!

I thought about the same thing with my 9090DB, the backlights for the tuner are sorta tealish color and a nice deep blue would be awesome..... what did you do for the conversion?

Rick, this is how I did the LED lamp conversion:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110209008038&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001

Those are the lamps installed in the 2230, and they are preassembled, so it's just a remove and replace deal. Plus it's reversible, there are no modifications needed to the unit.

The seller is also an AK forum member, but his AK ID is slightly different from his eBay one.

ejguillot
12-30-07, 10:43 PM
It sounds great. Funny you should mention lubricant, because when I asked about it at the store I bought the Deoxit D5 from, he said he did not think there was any lube in the pots.

My 2270 looks closer to the 2230 you show than the 2275. Not sure what the differences are though. Hope none of my lights go out. It did not look like a fun job getting at them and I'm not sure I would know how to convert to LED.

That's because the 2230 and your 2270 are from the same generation. The 2230 is the 2270's smaller brother, with the 2245 in between and the 2215 as the little one. The 2275 is the 2270's replacement and is a model generation newer.

For all the Marantz model info (and pics!) you'll need, go to www.classic-audio.com and go to the Marantz section. (Pioneer and Technics are covered too.) I believe that every single Marantz ever made (until Phillips bought the company) is listed there.

Ranger, go look at http://www.classic-audio.com/marantz/mfire.html for an example of just how tough a Marantz of this era can be. :)

Night Wolf
12-31-07, 06:11 AM
Rick, this is how I did the LED lamp conversion:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110209008038&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001

Those are the lamps installed in the 2230, and they are preassembled, so it's just a remove and replace deal. Plus it's reversible, there are no modifications needed to the unit.

The seller is also an AK forum member, but his AK ID is slightly different from his eBay one.

WOW, that is awesome! I always wondered if there was something like that... honestly, the biggest drawback to my 9090DB is the tealish lights, I really don't like that, but from what I understand they were blue when new.... those blue LED's are going to be the perfect add to my 9090DB, in his picturs there was a 9090DB relamped, but it was tough to see the difference.

Since you seem to know about Marantz, which I know nothing about, maybe you could give me some info about them.... which would be a good receiver to get? I notice alot of them have a very simple look and no power meters, which were top of the line and which were regarded as the better models?

ejguillot
01-01-08, 01:17 PM
WOW, that is awesome! I always wondered if there was something like that... honestly, the biggest drawback to my 9090DB is the tealish lights, I really don't like that, but from what I understand they were blue when new.... those blue LED's are going to be the perfect add to my 9090DB, in his picturs there was a 9090DB relamped, but it was tough to see the difference.

Since you seem to know about Marantz, which I know nothing about, maybe you could give me some info about them.... which would be a good receiver to get? I notice alot of them have a very simple look and no power meters, which were top of the line and which were regarded as the better models?

Rick, read up on the Marantz section of www.classic-audio.com for the entire lineup of Marantz.

That said, some of the better regarded Marantz receivers on AK are as follows:

2220B (20 WPC),
2230 (30 WPC, said to sound much like a tube amplifier),
2270 (70 WPC, some AK'ers don't like it as it doesn't handle 4 ohm loads well, TOTL at the time of intro),
2285B (85 WPC, considered by some to be one of the best Marantz receivers ever),
2325 (125WPC, equivalent to your 9090DB and my SX-1080, also TOTL at intro)
19 (50 WPC, rare, TOTL in 1968 with a price of $1000!)

In general the 22xx receiver line is good, i'm not sure i've heard anything bad about any particular model. The Marantz sound has been described as the "three martini sound", meaning warm, laid back, and relaxed.

Try one and see. A 2230 sold locally here for $80.

Night Wolf
01-01-08, 03:36 PM
Nice, I'll keep my eye out :)

ejguillot
01-01-08, 06:48 PM
Remember that local pickup is the best way to go, and I'm sure that the Atlanta area has plenty of Marantz units listed in craigslist and eBay. I'm not that familiar with Macon's location on the map... Are you closer to Atlanta, or Tampa/St. Pete? (I figure Jacksonville is the closest). In any case, I imagine that Atlanta would have the biggest selection.

JC316
01-01-08, 07:15 PM
Nice, I used to deal heavily in vintage receivers. I have found that the best sound comes from a Yamaha Natural Sound, or anything Harman Kardon.

Night Wolf
01-01-08, 07:52 PM
Remember that local pickup is the best way to go, and I'm sure that the Atlanta area has plenty of Marantz units listed in craigslist and eBay. I'm not that familiar with Macon's location on the map... Are you closer to Atlanta, or Tampa/St. Pete? (I figure Jacksonville is the closest). In any case, I imagine that Atlanta would have the biggest selection.

I am pretty much right in the middle of GA. 1.5-2hrs I am in Atlanta, 3hrs to Savanah, 3.5hrs to Gainesville, FL, 6.5hrs to Tampa.

Atlanta isn't all that far to pick something up tho.

I want to get a better cartidge for my tt though, I am using the Shure M91ED that came with it, its got alot of use though, I replaced the stylus when I first got it, but its time for something new... so I am seeing whats out there.... I dunno if I want to get something used, like a Shure V15 (so many versions tho) or something new in the $80 range.... I dunno tho.

Submariner409
01-01-08, 08:55 PM
Try Jerry Raskin's www.needledoctor.com (http://www.needledoctor.com) for MM cartridges. I run a Lyra Helikon MC in an Oracle Delphi IV/SME IV/V mod t/t.

ejguillot
01-01-08, 11:17 PM
Try Jerry Raskin's www.needledoctor.com (http://www.needledoctor.com) for MM cartridges. I run a Lyra Helikon MC in an Oracle Delphi IV/SME IV/V mod t/t.

I second the needledoctor.com recommendation. That's where I got my Grado Black cartridge from.

Rick, why don't you try a Grado? US made, and the Black is only $40 (replacement stylus only $20!) yet has excellent reviews. Only issue is a possible hum issue with certain turntables, do a search on the various audio forums for "Grado Hum" and see if yours is listed as a problem turntable. Mine does hum, but it's only audible toward the end of the record, and then only if it's between tracks at loud volume levels.

For $80 you can step up to a Grado Blue.

Night Wolf
01-02-08, 04:41 PM
My turntable is quite rare, so I doubt it'll be on any list.

It uses an idler pully to spin the platter, the pully is against the motor shaft (that is the tension spring thatg was broke) and in turn also rides against the platter..... Because of the design, thereis quite a bit of hum/noise from the motor to the platter, on low passages or between tracks you can hear it alot, but around a little louder then lower-mid volume level you don't notice it.

I have thought about getting a new tt, but don't want to spend the money right now, and mine is in great shape, and it works, so I was thinking a new cart would be in order, I also want to get a tracking weight scale thingy, I had it set a long time ago but I know its off now.

The BSR 810 Transcription is probably one of the most complicated turn tables made... it's got an overhead camshaft design to operate the all the automatic features.... if it ever breaks and fails to work in manual mode, then I'd get a new one, but I do like the thing quite a bit. It was only $6 too :)

I have heard about the Grado Black... so my question is, is the Grado Blue with the extra money over the Black?

I've been out of the vinyl loop for some time now, I don't know is my tt uses a MC or MM cart? it has 2 screws holding it to the headshell and then 4 or 5 wires going to the headshell.

ejguillot
01-02-08, 06:16 PM
My turntable is quite rare, so I doubt it'll be on any list.

It uses an idler pully to spin the platter, the pully is against the motor shaft (that is the tension spring thatg was broke) and in turn also rides against the platter..... Because of the design, thereis quite a bit of hum/noise from the motor to the platter, on low passages or between tracks you can hear it alot, but around a little louder then lower-mid volume level you don't notice it.

I have thought about getting a new tt, but don't want to spend the money right now, and mine is in great shape, and it works, so I was thinking a new cart would be in order, I also want to get a tracking weight scale thingy, I had it set a long time ago but I know its off now.

The BSR 810 Transcription is probably one of the most complicated turn tables made... it's got an overhead camshaft design to operate the all the automatic features.... if it ever breaks and fails to work in manual mode, then I'd get a new one, but I do like the thing quite a bit. It was only $6 too :)

I have heard about the Grado Black... so my question is, is the Grado Blue with the extra money over the Black?

I've been out of the vinyl loop for some time now, I don't know is my tt uses a MC or MM cart? it has 2 screws holding it to the headshell and then 4 or 5 wires going to the headshell.

Is the Grado Blue twice as good as the Black? Doubt it, try the Black first and make sure that hum isn't an issue (it's AC motor tables that hum, DC ones don't). The hum I'm talking about can be heard from the speakers when the turntable is on, even if the cart is just hovering above the platter, and gets worse the closer the cart gets to the motor.

The Grado Black is an MM cart, and the mount you describe sounds like a standard mount, so any standard mount cart should fit. Does your tonearm have a detachable headshell?

Needledoctor has the tracking weight scales, I bought the Thorens one from them for $10.

Submariner409
01-02-08, 06:20 PM
If you have a semi-automatic t/t with stock arm, stick to the Grado or Shure m/m cartridges. I don't know if your preamp section has a m/c headamp or transformer, but most m/c's are finicky about loading and precise setup. Unless you're really audio obsessive, Grado is guaranteed to provide consistently GOOD sound with great tracking, and Joe's cartridges have plenty of output to drive a m/m input. If you have the ability to set VTA, dial in the recommended tracking force and set the arm so the top of the cartridge is parallel to the record surface.

heavymetals
01-02-08, 07:53 PM
Here is mine.

Dug it out to take this pic.

Night Wolf
01-02-08, 07:58 PM
Yeah, the tt has a detatchable headshell. I'll have to try the Grado Black when things settle down and I start to mess with the sound system again, I remember hearing good things about it a while back too. I am not sure if the motor is AC or DC though.

Parts Express has a Shure tacking weight scale for $25, but one for $10 from Needle Doctor? Cool, I'll have to check that out :)

ejguillot
01-10-08, 10:56 PM
Rick, you ever order the cart?

BTW, I did a search on AK and found that BSR turntables are poorly regarded - except yours. You have the highest rated one of the bunch!

Ranger
01-10-08, 11:30 PM
After cleaning the Marantz and tightening the indicator cable, I really did not use it. I was talking about copying some old albums to CD's (JimmyH told me it is doable). Anyway, a coworker said she could download them (most are pretty old) if I made a list. In the process of doing this, I put a few of the albums on. WOW! I had forgotten how great it sounds. Crisp, clear and the separation was amazing. Spent all afternoon just listening to some great music. I know a lot of you will not even recognize some of these. Some of you older guys will. See if you remember any of them.

Bill Blacks Combo
Bill Justis - Raunchy
Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass - Tijuana Taxi
Santo & Johnny - Sleep Walk (steel guitar)
Ray Conniff
Sandy Nelson - Let There Be Drums
Al Ciola - Golden Guitars
Boots Randolf - Yakety Sax

Those of you who don't know any of these artists or groups (and have DSL), give 'em a try and see what you think.

Haoleb
02-04-08, 01:38 AM
So the rest of the gear...

here is my new Sansui AU-517. Made in 1978, it is 65watts per channel (wpc) Which is plenty. See my 9090DB is 125wpc, that thing is a beast, but my little Onkyo is only 35wpc, yet that would push my speakers to levels higher then I'd normally listen to, and sound very good doing it. The 65wpc of the AU-517 is nearly perfect, because it does keep me from pushing it too loud, as I have done in the past.

The AU-517 is the smaller brother to the AU-717, they were marketed and sold side by side. The main difference is the 717 is 85wpc, and has a few extra features on the pre-amp side.... most of which I wouldn't need and the extra power, while nice, isn't needed as my speakers are very efficent. I've had huge monster receivers in the past, but somehow I really like the simple, no-nonsense design of the AU-517.

It is a Direct Coupled amp, and it is a dual mono design, which is very cool. It's got seperate power supplies and amps for each channel, very neat.... removing the cover is the equivlent of looking at audio porn. Despite my 9090DB being a top line model and what many consider the pinnacle of Sansui solid state, taking a look inside leaves alot to be desired, it's built very well, it just dosn't show it off nearly as well as the AU-517.

The matching tuner to the AU-517 is the TU-517, but I've already got a vintage Sony and JVC tuner, so I think I'll be set for now.

Mine also has the neat rack handles, they can be removed, but I think they are pretty cool, so on they stay :)



Hey you even opened her up :) For everyone else here I am the friend in hawaii Rick speaks of ;)

You never showed me the pics of the amp all setup once you got it. Guess Im going to have to come here more often to catch up on stuff :D

Haoleb
02-04-08, 01:47 AM
Want to add in as well that you can infact get Caig products at radioshack now. They sell a little package that has Deoxit and Progold in a mini spray can for about 17 bucks. They also used to have pens but My local one doesnt carry them anymore. I bought them all when they were on clearance for like 3 bucks a peice :) Also, You can use a MC or MM cart on any arm, Its just the Phono preamp that needs to be set for the one your using.

For everyone else I am the friend in Hawaii Rick is talking about. You didnt even tell me you opened her up and never even showed me the pics with the amp all setup either! Guess im gonna have to come here to find out whats going on around there ;)

Submariner409
02-04-08, 07:08 PM
:thumbsup: Ranger, It's amazing just how good LP's sound when cleaned and played on a decent sound system. Way better than on CD or electronic credit cards.

Here's a few shots of my analog/CD setup in the living room, a cathedral ceiling 18x27 affair built for sound.

The t/t is an Oracle Delphi III mod to IV with a SME IV-iv arm and Lyra Helikon m/c cartridge. A Marchand crossover is fed from a Klyne SK-5A(e) preamp and NjoeTjoeb 4000 tube output CD player, a Harman/Kardon CD491 cassette deck, and a Magnum Dynalab FT101-(a) analog tuner, and drives a VAC PA-100/100 100wpc tube amp for mid-high, and a Fosgate FA500 235wpc solid state amp for bass < 100Hz. The bass speakers are NHT 1249 12" units in my own reflex cabinets, and the mid-high units are EPOS M5's.

The Nitty Gritty vacuum record cleaning machine sits on the smaller of the 5 record cabinets in the room.

The system will reproduce Dave Brubeck, the Boston Symphony, Alan Jackson, or Dire Straits with impressive authority. I like good music.

I just sold a pair of 30 watt Sansui mono tube amps, made in 1966, for $1250. 8x what I paid for them in Naples, Italy at the Audio Club in '67!

Click on a pic and scoll in.

eldorado99
02-04-08, 07:14 PM
Very, very cool system. I am thoroughly impressed. I wish I could experience the sound that thing must make.


:thumbsup: Ranger, It's amazing just how good LP's sound when cleaned and played on a decent sound system. Way better than on CD or electronic credit cards.

Here's a few shots of my analog/CD setup in the living room, a cathedral ceiling 18x27 affair built for sound.

The t/t is an Oracle Delphi III mod to IV with a SME IV-iv arm and Lyra Helikon m/c cartridge. A Marchand crossover is fed from a Klyne SK-5A(e) preamp and NjoeTjoeb 4000 tube output CD player, a Harman/Kardon CD491 cassette deck, and a Magnum Dynalab FT101-(a) analog tuner, and drives a VAC PA-100/100 100wpc tube amp for mid-high, and a Fosgate FA500 235wpc solid state amp for bass < 100Hz. The bass speakers are NHT 1249 12" units in my own reflex cabinets, and the mid-high units are EPOS M5's.

The Nitty Gritty vacuum record cleaning machine sits on the smaller of the 5 record cabinets in the room.

The system will reproduce Dave Brubeck, the Boston Symphony, Alan Jackson, or Dire Straits with impressive authority. I like good music.

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Submariner409
02-10-08, 11:58 PM
Dragging this to the top for a couple of members who didn't search..............sitting here listening to 90.5FM, a U. PA station playing 1st generation R&R. ........Eddie, My Love,,,,,please Eddie don' make me wait too long......Eddie, my love, I'm sinkin' fast.......