: Freakishly smart, How dumb is our generation?



Crown Vic Owner
12-16-07, 01:59 AM
Many of you guys know who i am here, and my maturity level i will admit is not on the high side, but i will raise the question, how dumb is our generation?

My friend today called me freakishly smart for knowing what linux is, and a few other things. I am not the smartest egg in the basket, but i know i am a semi diagnosed autistic, so i will not argue that.


This generation gets textbooks shoved down there throats, and guess what, do you honestly believe we remember it, hell no, we remember it for a week so we can pass the test on friday. Teachers today do not pride themselves in teaching anymore. Many teachers do not understand the concepts and theories they are teaching nowdays, so i find it hard to believe that they can get away with teaching the stuff, expect people in our generation to understand it, yet they do not.



I have a rotten feeling that the so called "Kids of the future" are not going to turn out well, me included. I was told i had ADHD, Aspergers, Bipolar disorder, when i was finally diagnosed with autisim. I found out later that the only reason i was dignosed with all of these first most likely was because my school got almost 20k a year more for having me there compared to a non ADHD / Aspergers child.


I start to think with how dumb people my age are, that we are not going to last that much longer as a species. We rely on technology too much to do our thinking for us. When was the last time you honestly saw a child do math on paper without a calculator?

Krashed989
12-16-07, 02:36 AM
Many teachers do not understand the concepts and theories they are teaching nowdays, so i find it hard to believe that they can get away with teaching the stuff, expect people in our generation to understand it, yet they do not.

Wait till you get to college. The instructors live and breathe their subjects; it's pretty intense. The problem with high school teachers is that they've been through college thus they have advanced far beyond what they are teaching. There comes a point where you go so in depth with a subject that you start forgetting small parts of it.


As for your question about math, I haven't seen that in a while. Although, my college calculus instructor wouldn't let us use calculators. We had to do everything by hand. It gets pretty time consuming but you learn the material better.

Crown Vic Owner
12-16-07, 02:45 AM
Wait till you get to college. The instructors live and breathe their subjects; it's pretty intense. The problem with high school teachers is that they've been through college thus they have advanced far beyond what they are teaching. There comes a point where you go so in depth with a subject that you start forgetting small parts of it.


As for your question about math, I haven't seen that in a while. Although, my college calculus instructor wouldn't let us use calculators. We had to do everything by hand. It gets pretty time consuming but you learn the material better.
I agree


On the other hand, i could do my uncles college calculus when i was in 6th grade after him roughly explaining it to me.

At this point, i dont know what i am supposed to do with life because of how in depth i think.


I have alot of controversial projects to say the least that i have caused trouble with.

At 16, i have managed to do a few things that are quite astonishing now that i look back



I made a goped engine e85 compatable, thing ran cool as hell too.
Built a 30 ford engine from the ground up at 12
And my favorite, i know how to port 2 stroke engines. I can get a normally revving to 7k up to 15k with some tweaking, porting, polishing, and grinding off some of the piston skirt as well as increase the port and transfer port size.
And last, i know how to manage a linux server and set one up as well as do alot of other shit.

When i get into stuff, i research it WAY too deep.

When i first got a goped, i remember my grandpa got it for me (motorized scooter), first thing i did that night was tear the head off, and when he saw me in the garage doing this, i thought he was going to have a stroke, while somehow we got it put back together. I remember after doing this, doing research online about it, and i just got addicted. I am the same way with the northstar, i just want to learn more.


Ugh, did i mention that i spend most of my nights online researching shit.

dkozloski
12-16-07, 02:46 AM
Times change. As long as you know what you want to do with the numbers it's a waste of time to do it on paper. Use the technology as a springboard to bigger and better things. Remember that with computers you can make mistakes bigger and faster than any other way with the possible exception of tequilla and firearms. You'll amaze yourself years from now when you find yourself remembering a very large percentage of what you learned in school. Besides, there's no law preventing you from going back over the stuff you think you need to know and learning it on your own. People who work in technical fields never stop reading and learning.

Crown Vic Owner
12-16-07, 02:53 AM
i know, its just the amount utilized within common sense today is redicliously low. Maybe thats a better way to put it.

Krashed989
12-16-07, 02:55 AM
Ooooo Grinding the piston would make the counterweight vibe depending on how much you grind off. Not to mention the higher the rpms the more balanced you would need all the shafts to be. Otherwise, it would all just vibe itself to pieces. Then again, small engines can handle a lot, and they're fun to play with.


At this point, i dont know what i am supposed to do with life because of how in depth i think.
Knowledge is meant for one thing and one thing only. That is to be put to use.

Crown Vic Owner
12-16-07, 03:07 AM
Ooooo Grinding the piston would make the counterweight vibe depending on how much you grind off. Not to mention the higher the rpms the more balanced you would need all the shafts to be. Otherwise, it would all just vibe itself to pieces. Then again, small engines can handle a lot, and they're fun to play with.


Knowledge is meant for one thing and one thing only. That is to be put to use.

We are talking 2 strokes here.


I DID NOT grind off that much, enough considered safe, than went at it a bit more pushing the limits.


I tore down my engine every month to see if it was working for me or not.


Everything seemed balanced, ran smooth, but i ran my motors hard as hell and they saw more abuse than race engines.

Because of the high revving qualites of that lil bugger motor i got for 25 bucks, i ran 15:1 oil ratio. Manu. specs call for 40:1. there was another motor out there that ran up to 15000 stock, i played with it, but it did nothing for me, it just was too picky with gasoline. The only thing i do find weird with the thing is gaining alot of power by running a open pipe from the exhaust

Florian
12-16-07, 10:57 AM
dumb as a bag of hammers...


F

AMGoff
12-16-07, 01:24 PM
Incredibly...

Jesda
12-16-07, 01:26 PM
My generation never made any big sacrifices and never understood the value of hard work.

Some of us get it, but most of us are slacker idiots.

Keep buying textbooks! Make my wallet fatter.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-16-07, 01:28 PM
I remember when I was in high school, I could honestly see that the younger the kids were, the dumber they were. I graduated in '05, and I remember hearing that roughly 1/3 of the '08 class had failed their written driver's tests. That's how stupid they were.

I wish I had some sort of a way to go back and see what the average GPA was, at my high school, year by year, from '05 to now.

Spyder
12-16-07, 01:50 PM
GPA probably stayed the same. You'd have to look at the standards required to get an "A" in comparison to the GPA to see a difference.

malcolm
12-16-07, 02:32 PM
I believe it is true. In the old school real competition took place there was a winner and a loser. Today everybody needs to feel good about themselves and the playing field has been leveled and dumbed down. Kids are medicated by the thousands and everybody is equal. BS. I see the results every day in Corporate America. We have executive level people who can't write a coherant email or speak English properly. How the feck can you earn a degree in America if you can't write and speak properly. No I am not talking about someone who is not a native English speaker, These are people born and raised in the country. And everybody wonders why the economy has problems. These dopes are running it.

AMGoff
12-16-07, 04:07 PM
For the most part, all of us are born with the same capacity to learn... it's then only a question of how that capacity is nurtured and used. With that said, while there are the rare exceptions, the current crop of youngsters in this country are pretty damned stupid.... especially when it comes to things like problem solving. The worst part of it is that these kids think they know everything, of course that's not a problem specific to this particular generation - the only real difference with the one in question is the decreased number of genuinely bright apples. Believe me, there were plenty of idiots back when I was in school... but those were different times. As Malcolm eluded to, for some reason it isn't "PC" for there to be "winners" and "losers" these days... and that's hogwash. Competition is an inherent part of the capitalistic society in which we live, but we seem to have lost sight of that in this age of "feel good equality." I'm sorry, but everyone shouldn't get a gold star and a pat on the back just for showing up... all that serves to accomplish is to dilute the population-at-large. And don't even get me started on all of the medications for this "disorder" and that "disorder," it's nothing but a quick, superficial fix... just because you sweep something under the rug doesn't mean it's not there. "Equality" should only be extended with regard to the means we give kids - everyone should have the chance to start from a level playing field, but beyond that all bets are off. We should reward those who show initiative and a certain level of aptitude with extra attention, not the other way around. I feel bad for the bright ones, for the ones who show real promise, because it seems being such is almost to their detriment these days. In our current system, they are damn-near being inadvertently handicapped due to so much time, attention, and resources being (mis)spent on the not-so-bright ones... it should be the exact opposite. I am by no means saying that the others should left "high and dry," but we should be spending a good majority of our resources on those who exhibit the most potential because it is those who will most likely (and hopefully) be our future doctors, scientists, teachers, law-makers, engineers, and artists... if for nothing else but the greater benefit of mankind. Some people wonder why test scores and the like in this country are slipping behind those of other nations... it's not necessarily because our population is getting less intelligent with each passing generation, but instead it's because we simply don't properly identify and encourage the best and the brightest anymore... and that's a damned shame.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-16-07, 04:33 PM
It's a shame that in this country, the "cool" ones aren't the smartest or the most capable, but usually the dumb, the rich and the most aggressive. This is especially prevalent in my generation..where the popular kids in my high school were all well off stoners or alcoholics of some sort..that's not to say some of them weren't smart...a lot were, but they all partied and did drugs and shit like that. While there are the hard workers, the smart kids and the overall capable ones that were never "popular" or well known.

I'd like to blame MTV for this..them and their stupid, shallow stereotypes of what "cool" should be.

ewill3rd
12-16-07, 05:07 PM
My 5 year old son is smarter than most teenagers/20ish year old people I know.
He can almost tell time on a clock with hands, he can read, write, and answer simple questions with real answers. He knows right from wrong, he knows if he misbehaves he will be punished and if he does what he is asked he will be rewarded.
He is not trying to solve his problems with cheat codes, more money, and drugs.

There is hope for this country in my house, too bad more parents can't teach their kids these simple lessons.
It is up to the parents to make sure their kids are learning, not the teachers. Teachers are not subsitutes for parents, nobody seems to know that either. I don't want some stranger teaching my kid how to think, they can teach him how to do math and what happened in 1776... I'll handle the rest.

MTV, video games, television in general, drugs, whatever cop out you want to use to blame kids for being stupid... the issue is who is letting them do all that stuff?

I am amazed sometimes at some of the stupid people I run into.... utterly amazed.

Kev
12-16-07, 06:05 PM
It's not so much about intelligence as it is about communication. It's not for lack of intelligence, rather, our youth in general are ignorant. Add to that a plethora of multimedia distractions, misinformation from the entertainment sector, a large dose of selfishness and you have a recipe for disaster.

Education is all about communication whether it is verbal, audio, video or experiential.

malcolm
12-16-07, 06:48 PM
There are way too many fat lazy kids with all kinds of health problems who got that way eating fast food and sitting on their asses playing video games. If another world power wants to take over the US all they need to do is wait 15 or 20 years then walk in and take it. No one will be in any shape to resist.

Cadillacboy
12-16-07, 06:57 PM
There are way too many fat lazy kids with all kinds of health problems who got that way eating fast food and sitting on their asses playing video games.


That's very true indeed
:rofl: :lol:

Crown Vic Owner
12-16-07, 09:11 PM
There are way too many fat lazy kids with all kinds of health problems who got that way eating fast food and sitting on their asses playing video games. If another world power wants to take over the US all they need to do is wait 15 or 20 years then walk in and take it. No one will be in any shape to resist.

Im a huge guy myself, and i partially take offense to that, but bigg whoop, your probobly right.


I will willfully admit i eat when im depressed, mainly because i was one of the only non mexican or polish kids at my school and got depressed.

I got made fun of when i did anything, and eventually lost it because of that. I got thrown in a catholic school where i learned more about sex than porn would tell me and just, uugh.


Either way, theres no good place i believe anymore to get a decent education. I sit here and get denied any decent education all though i scored a 98/100 on my SATs for the HS entrance exam, yet because the scholarship to that highschool can only be given for the highest test takers and not athletes, i lost the scholarship to some dumbass, back when i was in a catholic school (FYI, im not catholic).


In public school, i would never last more than a min, yes i fight well, but kids have guns now days.


I am not a gang member nor a goody two shoes whos mommy or daddy sent me through school, but its redicilious.


I blame the schools personally.

dkozloski
12-16-07, 09:24 PM
Go to a junior college and get the background you need to succeed in a university. There's nothing stopping you but the lead in your butt.

Crown Vic Owner
12-16-07, 09:37 PM
i go to school online currently for high school, im 16.

I am comptia A+ certified already, so i dont know anymore what to do.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-16-07, 09:43 PM
Is it just me, or does Crown Vic Owner remind anyone else of Jonas McFeely? :) :cool2:

And that's a compliment sir! :thumbsup:

Kev
12-16-07, 10:37 PM
.... Either way, theres no good place i believe anymore to get a decent education. ......No whining. There are plenty of opportunities to get a good education. You can get a degree from many accredited community and other colleges with online classes. OK, maybe you'll have to wait until you have graduated high school so man up and keep you grades as high as you can get them and get ready for either further education or find a good paying trade.

There are plenty of opportunities for those who are willing to pay the price in order to take advantage of them. I don't know where you live but I can tell you that my little girl is attending public school and doing well even though they went on lock down just this week. You make due with what you have until you can improve the situation.

Improvise, adapt and overcome. No more sob stories, no more excuses.

Crown Vic Owner
12-16-07, 10:42 PM
There are plenty of opportunities for those who are willing to pay the price in order to take advantage of them. I don't know where you live but I can tell you that my little girl is attending public school and doing well even though they went on lock down just this week. You make due with what you have until you can improve the situation.


I am currently, but i am trying to state that there is major room for improvent, they should be moving manpower from teaching immigrant children english to teaching the kids that already know english and willing to learn.

Kev
12-16-07, 11:02 PM
You're right about that, you keep that in mind when you are old enough to vote. This is not new though and you'll have to compete all your life to do well, that's just the way it is unless you inherit gobs of someone else's money.

You're a smart young man. If you make good choices you'll do well.

Crown Vic Owner
12-16-07, 11:06 PM
You're right about that, you keep that in mind when you are old enough to vote. This is not new though and you'll have to compete all your life to do well, that's just the way it is unless you inherit gobs of someone else's money.

You're a smart young man. If you make good choices you'll do well.

Lets hope, some bullies back at my old school stole my SS number and name and messed that up, thank god my name is getting changed to my dads last name soon, and my SS number cant be changed unfortunately.

If you google my name, i supposedly ripped people off, am into weird sex crap, i am gay, i am the numa kids brother, yeah.


Im only scared to search for my myspace.

I honestly make the best of what i have and hope for the best. I mean, i dont cry to people about shit, i lie a bit, i will admit, just about small shit like ****ing around with jesda and that really hot girl with the big boobs being my mom :p .

AMGoff
12-17-07, 01:06 AM
Yes, there is room for improvement in our educational system - public and private... but to blame such is a BS excuse. I'm a product of the public education system and I in no way feel disadvantaged because of it. There are still opportunities there, it's only a matter of whether you take advantage of them or not. No one is going to, nor should they have to "tailor-make" an education for you, especially secondary education - your only responsibility is to make the most of what's available. I'm still trying to figure two things though... why one would have to take the SAT to get into a high school and also how one can get a 98 out of 100 on it....? As far as online courses go... I don't like the idea of them as a primary method of learning. They may be fine when used as a supplement to the curriculum like those offered in the "hybrid" courses many colleges are implementing, but that's about it. However, relying solely on them provides an incomplete education... you can only learn so much from a book.. interaction with other human beings is essential to becoming a well rounded person. I also don't mean to burst anyone's bubble with regard to an A+ certification, but take it from someone in the field - it doesn't mean jack-squat... while it may show a very basic understanding of the fundamentals, it's really not worth much more than that... you can use it as a foundation from which to further learn from, but you can by no means rest your laurels upon it. Honestly, if someone came into my office looking for a job with only an A+, they wouldn't get a call back - and I'm dead serious about that. Bottom line is I have no patience for anyone crying and balking and making excuses... most opportunities in this life are ones we make for ourselves and when one presents itself you better take full advantage of it... if not you're just wasting space.

dkozloski
12-17-07, 01:34 AM
If you want a real eye opener you need to have a look at what the young people in today's military can do. I taught at a junior college where we were helping Army helicopter mechanics get their civilian A&P license. These guys worked at their Army job from 6:00AM until 4:30Pm and then were in my classroom from 6-10PM. You never saw a more dedicated bunch of guys trying to get ahead. I learned as much from them about their areas of expertise as they learned from me. The safety record of their outfit was outstanding and they had a tremendous amount of pride in what they could do.

eldorado99
12-17-07, 02:15 AM
If you want a real eye opener you need to have a look at what the young people in today's military can do. I taught at a junior college where we were helping Army helicopter mechanics get their civilian A&P license. These guys worked at their Army job from 6:00AM until 4:30Pm and then were in my classroom from 6-10PM. You never saw a more dedicated bunch of guys trying to get ahead. I learned as much from them about their areas of expertise as they learned from me. The safety record of their outfit was outstanding and they had a tremendous amount of pride in what they could do.

That is really nice to hear. These types of stories do seem to be heard less and less nowadays. People seem to be willing to sacrifice less and many don't seem to learn the value of hard work early enough. I suppose in today's society however, it is not always needed.

Then again there probably were just as many of these people 80 years ago (proportionally), but they would simply have not been able to survive.

Who knows, I honestly have not thought about this subject enough to give a proper well thought out response, but it is an interesting thing to analyze.

dkozloski
12-17-07, 12:58 PM
You aren't going to find the smartest kids of any generation hanging around on street corners or at the video game controller. They're just like the generations gone by. They're helping Dad in the garage overhaul the old pickup, in the basement building a project, at the library researching. The go-getters and acheivers are still around but are hardly noticed for all the attention the thugs, vandals, and psychopaths get.

Crown Vic Owner
12-17-07, 01:04 PM
Yes, there is room for improvement in our educational system - public and private... but to blame such is a BS excuse. I'm a product of the public education system and I in no way feel disadvantaged because of it. There are still opportunities there, it's only a matter of whether you take advantage of them or not. No one is going to, nor should they have to "tailor-make" an education for you, especially secondary education - your only responsibility is to make the most of what's available. I'm still trying to figure two things though... why one would have to take the SAT to get into a high school and also how one can get a 98 out of 100 on it....? As far as online courses go... I don't like the idea of them as a primary method of learning. They may be fine when used as a supplement to the curriculum like those offered in the "hybrid" courses many colleges are implementing, but that's about it. However, relying solely on them provides an incomplete education... you can only learn so much from a book.. interaction with other human beings is essential to becoming a well rounded person. I also don't mean to burst anyone's bubble with regard to an A+ certification, but take it from someone in the field - it doesn't mean jack-squat... while it may show a very basic understanding of the fundamentals, it's really not worth much more than that... you can use it as a foundation from which to further learn from, but you can by no means rest your laurels upon it. Honestly, if someone came into my office looking for a job with only an A+, they wouldn't get a call back - and I'm dead serious about that. Bottom line is I have no patience for anyone crying and balking and making excuses... most opportunities in this life are ones we make for ourselves and when one presents itself you better take full advantage of it... if not you're just wasting space.
I understand that, but its more than most people have at my age. Its a start.
Also, i went to a private high school in the beginning, so i had to be accepted.

AMGoff
12-17-07, 05:53 PM
Are you sure you took the SAT and not just some entrance exam? Not only do I find it hard to believe that a school would make an incoming freshman take it, but it is impossible to score a "98/100" on it, the test is not even scored in that fashion.

Kev
12-17-07, 10:39 PM
Yes, there is room for improvement in our educational system - public and private... but to blame such is a BS excuse. I'm a product of the public education system and I in no way feel disadvantaged because of it. There are still opportunities there, it's only a matter of whether you take advantage of them or not.

No one is going to, nor should they have to "tailor-make" an education for you, especially secondary education - your only responsibility is to make the most of what's available. I'm still trying to figure two things though... why one would have to take the SAT to get into a high school and also how one can get a 98 out of 100 on it....?

As far as online courses go... I don't like the idea of them as a primary method of learning. They may be fine when used as a supplement to the curriculum like those offered in the "hybrid" courses many colleges are implementing, but that's about it. However, relying solely on them provides an incomplete education... you can only learn so much from a book.. interaction with other human beings is essential to becoming a well rounded person.

I also don't mean to burst anyone's bubble with regard to an A+ certification, but take it from someone in the field - it doesn't mean jack-squat... while it may show a very basic understanding of the fundamentals, it's really not worth much more than that... you can use it as a foundation from which to further learn from, but you can by no means rest your laurels upon it. Honestly, if someone came into my office looking for a job with only an A+, they wouldn't get a call back - and I'm dead serious about that.

Bottom line is I have no patience for anyone crying and balking and making excuses... most opportunities in this life are ones we make for ourselves and when one presents itself you better take full advantage of it... if not you're just wasting space.(Paragraphs are wonderful things, they help one to organize thoughts and arrange them in a more interesting format, one that is exponentially easier to read, not to mention more appealing.)

In regards to items such as grades, degrees and resumes their primary value is helping you get in the door (land the job) but they are no guarantee you will keep it. You have to do that yourself.

Crown Vic Owner
12-17-07, 10:41 PM
Are you sure you took the SAT and not just some entrance exam? Not only do I find it hard to believe that a school would make an incoming freshman take it, but it is impossible to score a "98/100" on it, the test is not even scored in that fashion.

A FORM of the SATs

Terra novas, still a standardized test as far as i am concerned, maybe i used a wrong choice of words.

dkozloski
12-17-07, 11:06 PM
Terra Nova is an achievement test. It's not held in high regard because there is no writing requirement. Much more common is Iowa Tests of Basic Skills. Most of this type of testing has been discontinued because it is highly embarrassing to the school systems to find out that the kids aren't learning anything.

Kev
12-17-07, 11:08 PM
Terra Nova is an achievement test. It's not held in high regard because there is no writing requirement. Much more common is Iowa Tests of Basic Skills. Most of this type of testing has been discontinued because it is highly embarrassing to the school systems to find out that the kids aren't learning anything.Man, I hate when that happens!

Crown Vic Owner
12-17-07, 11:14 PM
Terra Nova is an achievement test. It's not held in high regard because there is no writing requirement. Much more common is Iowa Tests of Basic Skills. Most of this type of testing has been discontinued because it is highly embarrassing to the school systems to find out that the kids aren't learning anything.
Id fail to hell in the writing requirement as well, mainly because if my autisim and my handwriting is unreadable. I carried around a laptop in school because i would fail my classes if i didnt print my shit.


Of course, i was around 1 in 50 kids in the school that did this, and its not anything fancy or anything, some old 800Mhz POS HP pavillion.


Of course, i will be the first to admit that i was guilty of browsing the net on the damn thing during class.

AMGoff
12-17-07, 11:31 PM
(Paragraphs are wonderful things, they help one to organize thoughts and arrange them in a more interesting format, one that is exponentially easier to read, not to mention more appealing.)

In regards to items such as grades, degrees and resumes their primary value is helping you get in the door (land the job) but they are no guarantee you will keep it. You have to do that yourself.

My thoughts flow just fine, thanks... I'm not overly concerned about breaking things down in order for others to follow more clearly.

Kev
12-17-07, 11:33 PM
That's no surprise.

Crown Vic Owner
12-17-07, 11:35 PM
Why do i have the rotten feeling AMGoff is a person in real life that keeps to himself, but is somehow extremely intelligent.


Damnit, if i didnt know better, id say he has ...............



Nah, nevermind

AMGoff
12-17-07, 11:40 PM
A FORM of the SATs

Terra novas, still a standardized test as far as i am concerned, maybe i used a wrong choice of words.

The SAT is not some synonym for a standardized tests, it's a specific test unto itself with a specific purpose... the Terra Nova test has nothing to do with the SAT. Every so often koz and I are actually in agreement, the Terra Nova/CAT is nothing more than an achievement and a piss poor one at that - being much less comprehensive than the Iowa Skills test. Writing is an essential part of gauging ones development... if you have some sort of medical reason as to why you couldn't submit a hand-written test then special arrangements would/could be made.

Crown Vic Owner
12-17-07, 11:48 PM
The SAT is not some synonym for a standardized tests, it's a specific test unto itself with a specific purpose... the Terra Nova test has nothing to do with the SAT. Every so often koz and I are actually in agreement, the Terra Nova/CAT is nothing more than an achievement and a piss poor one at that - being much less comprehensive than the Iowa Skills test. Writing is an essential part of gauging ones development... if you have some sort of medical reason as to why you couldn't submit a hand-written test then special arrangements would/could be made.
I have no offical medical reason for that actually, but my handwriting is horrible, and most people cant read it.

For the most part, its blamed on when i was diagnosed with ADHD, but was just left alone.



I used the wrong choice of words as the SAT is commonly used as a substituted word for standardized testing nowdays within highschools, so i apolgize for that.


I also scored a 96 on the scholastic test i took a few years before that.

AMGoff
12-17-07, 11:58 PM
Why do i have the rotten feeling AMGoff is a person in real life that keeps to himself, but is somehow extremely intelligent.


Damnit, if i didnt know better, id say he has ...............



Nah, nevermind

That I have what??

To the contrary, in real life AMGoff never has any time to himself. I'm fairly extroverted, I enjoy being around people... just not stupid ones.

Crown Vic Owner
12-18-07, 12:14 AM
nothing, i have the odd feeling that you have a social disorder, i dont know why either.

AMGoff
12-18-07, 12:19 AM
HA! And I have the feeling that you like to reflect your own problems onto others. You keep thinking that there bucko, but being a jack-ass hardly qualifies as a social disorder...

dkozloski
12-18-07, 12:23 AM
Most of these achievement tests are scored on a percentile system. A 96 means that you score in the top 4 percent of those that take the test. I generally scored in the 99.9th percential. You can take your achievement test scores to the high IQ society internet sites like Mensa and Tripple Nines and you can convert them to IQ scores if you are curious. Mine converted to 150+.

Crown Vic Owner
12-18-07, 12:56 AM
HA! And I have the feeling that you like to reflect your own problems onto others. You keep thinking that there bucko, but being a jack-ass hardly qualifies as a social disorder...

It was a feeling, i wasnt saying you had one, nor was i implying it.


It was nothing more than a thought.

dkozloski
12-18-07, 01:01 AM
AMGoff is a simple stuffed shirt and he knows it. It doesn't make him a bad guy.

gary88
12-18-07, 01:37 AM
I remember getting a 97 on my terra nova. What did that do for me? Nothing really.

I didn't have to take the SAT, but I got a modest 25 on my ACT. I did get a 34 on the English part though :highfive:

Spyder
12-18-07, 01:45 AM
Kev, give the kid a huuuuuuggggg! :D

dkozloski
12-18-07, 01:54 AM
Kev, give the kid a huuuuuuggggg! :D
Amen! He could do a hell of a lot worse with his time than hang around here listening to all the BS advice. He's pretty perceptive as well.

Crown Vic Owner
12-18-07, 01:57 AM
I remember getting a 97 on my terra nova. What did that do for me? Nothing really

It did something for me, more of something personal, but proved all the teachers that said i was a dumbass and would never get into that school because i was so stupid WRONG.

On the other hand, i DID get kicked out for defending a dead man, but i wont get into that.

Spyder
12-18-07, 02:23 AM
Please do...

Crown Vic Owner
12-18-07, 02:54 AM
Meh,

My grandpa died a few weeks before the incident, kid said he was gay because he was in the marines, deserved to die, and was a *******, i shoved him against a wall after he threw a punch at me right after this and a few seniors in was friends with pounced on him with me and beat the crap out of him after that. I got kicked out because the kids dad donated a shitload to the school in actuality, but the reason i was kicked out was because i started a major fight (over 10 people)

AMGoff
12-18-07, 01:49 PM
AMGoff is a simple stuffed shirt and he knows it. It doesn't make him a bad guy.

Flattery will get you nowhere, my friend...


I remember getting a 97 on my terra nova. What did that do for me? Nothing really.

I didn't have to take the SAT, but I got a modest 25 on my ACT. I did get a 34 on the English part though :highfive:

All those K-12 standardized tests do is give a vague picture as to where a kid is along in his learning development... it isn't worth a hill of beans though simply because most schools fail to take a proper course of action after the results.

A 34 is pretty spiffy on your ACT verbal... I take it you applied to a school out in the midwest? It's mainly on the coasts that the SAT is preferred. I never took the ACT, simply because I didn't have to. Took the SAT twice though, once in seventh grade and then again (for real) in the eleventh grade.


Meh,

My grandpa died a few weeks before the incident, kid said he was gay because he was in the marines, deserved to die, and was a *******, i shoved him against a wall after he threw a punch at me right after this and a few seniors in was friends with pounced on him with me and beat the crap out of him after that. I got kicked out because the kids dad donated a shitload to the school in actuality, but the reason i was kicked out was because i started a major fight (over 10 people)

So then you're saying that you were indeed the reason as to why you were thrown out of that school?

gary88
12-18-07, 02:35 PM
A 34 is pretty spiffy on your ACT verbal... I take it you applied to a school out in the midwest? It's mainly on the coasts that the SAT is preferred. I never took the ACT, simply because I didn't have to. Took the SAT twice though, once in seventh grade and then again (for real) in the eleventh grade.


Yeah, I go to DePaul University. Management major, Marketing minor. I applied to Marquette too when I looked at colleges, but Milwaukee just seems boring.

AMGoff
12-18-07, 03:01 PM
Yeah, I go to DePaul University. Management major, Marketing minor. I applied to Marquette too when I looked at colleges, but Milwaukee just seems boring.

DePaul's a private Catholic school, right? I'm pretty sure I had a friend go there for their post-grad work. Congrats on getting accepted, from what I know they're a fairly selective school. The only thing I can recommend to you is to get a minor (or hell, even a double maj. - that's what I ended up doing) in something completely unrelated to your (main) major, not only will it give you a different field to fall back on if need be, but it will make you much more marketable... I know I actually ended up doing something completely unrelated to what I went to college for!

I know I'm about knee-deep in all of this pre-admissions stuff right now. My oldest nephew is a junior this year so the wife and I are really trying to help get all of his stuff together. Both of his parents didn't go to college, while they're helping with what they can, they're really in the dark with regard to all of the little details involved. I'm just shocked at how much the tuition and all of the various fees have gone up across the board in the past 17 years... While you young guys have it a lot easier in many respects, that's one thing I feel a little sorry about for you all - the price of a decent education is just astounding.

dkozloski
12-18-07, 03:13 PM
DePaul's a private Catholic school, right? I'm pretty sure I had a friend go there for their post-grad work. Congrats on getting accepted, from what I know they're a fairly selective school.

I know I'm about knee-deep in all of this pre-admissions stuff right now. My oldest nephew is a junior this year so the wife and I are really trying to help get all of his stuff together. Both of his parents didn't go to college, while they're helping with what they can, they're really in the dark with regard to all of the little details involved. I'm just shocked at how much the tuition and all of the various fees have gone up across the board in the past 17 years... While you young guys have it a lot easier in many respects, that's one thing I feel a little sorry about for you all - the price of a decent education is just astounding.
Back in the day, anybody could earn enough money with a summer job to pay for a years schooling at a state college. $1000 a semester would pay for books, fees, and room and board in the dorm. You didn't pay tuition unless you were a non-resident. There was no cheaper way to spend the winter months. Along came federal student loans, the money supply for education exploded, and so did the cost of a college education. One of the unintended consequences of free government money.