: sold the v for a 300c srt-8



nunii
12-10-07, 11:54 PM
just could not take all the rattles and a stick in Brooklyn NY is hell!!! ...anyway when i had the v i would look at posts about people beating srt8 and getting hyped now i love story's about srt8 beating V's

we are all crazy people whatever car we have it has to be the best !!!!!

nunii
12-10-07, 11:57 PM
gonna be back soon god willing !!!2009 cts-v looks bad ass

jimbo1320
12-11-07, 02:00 AM
Is it really the car the "V" is? My 04 was tight , don't understand the rattle stuff. I have heard guys complaining about them. I took a SRT for a test ride and didn't like it at all, handling, ride, breaks and so on. I will say the SRT-8 is a faster car though. Good luck with in any case.

Naf
12-11-07, 07:11 AM
the 300c is nice if you wanna slap on some massive wheels, and cruise the town...But if and when you wanna whip around town in style, you will be more than welcomed to the group.

I have some friends here that have the 300c and even the charger. Both are HEAVY...the poor little hemi doesnt stand a chance in hell...

Enjoy your Automatic tranny and private windows...

sy1172
12-11-07, 08:00 AM
Good for you. I too bought an SRT-8, just the Jeep, not the 300. The whole Jeep/Chyrsler (never thought I would say it) is great. What a car, tight as can be, not a rattle of any kind, build quality and materials is FAR better, the features blow the V out of the water, the power is more (Jeep is quicker too IMHO). I can't say enough. Now granted, the SRT-8 (2008 model) has three years of innovations in it over the V but it is just such a better car. I would have to imagine that the 300 SRT-8 is the same way. Personally, I am done with Cadillac. My V went from love to dislike in a 2-3 month period as so many little things kept going wrong. It's in the dealer now for the third time in two months for another laundry list of stupid things.

Good for you, enjoy it!!!

cbloveday
12-11-07, 08:11 AM
I'd be very interested in knowing how you like the SRT8 compared to the cts-v. What year cts-v did you own and what year/model srt8 did you buy.
I own a 2006 300c srt8 and am l waiting for the 2009 cts-v to come out. I also have a 07 ESV. Thanks Curtis

CIWS
12-11-07, 08:40 AM
Jeremy's take.

l8maP4CB1Nk

cbloveday
12-11-07, 09:48 AM
I am interested in Jeremy's comments of the cts-v vs srt8, not the m5 vs srt8v.

onebadcad
12-11-07, 10:56 AM
On the bright side, you can always make some spare change on your way home for those looking for a cab:).
JMWY, enjoy the new ride, thanks for buying American!

odla
12-11-07, 11:48 AM
Jeremy's take Is the same as mine. thats why i got a v. even he said the v drives you around the bend.

Ferny
12-11-07, 01:52 PM
wow! i thought different. i sold my 300C to get the V. i know it aint a SRT-8 but it still had the hemi. i wanted to get the V before the 300 but they had sold it when i went to buy it. i test drove the C and i jumped on it. i should have just waited because after a year i traded it and got my V. now im not going to lie, i do miss my 300 with the big chrome wheels, lowered, nice exhaust! just cruisin. it turned alot of heads. it was very roomy. BUT, my V is just so much funer to drive. last year i rode my bike all winter, i never really drove my 300. this year the bike comes out once a week. i really enjoy drivin the V. i guess it all really depends on the person!

CIWS
12-11-07, 01:58 PM
I am interested in Jeremy's comments of the cts-v vs srt8, not the m5 vs srt8v.

Then simply stop listening when he brings the M5 into the clip and you only get his take on the SRT8. :) Referencing the CTSV he looked at it back in 04 when it first came out, like most american cars he dogged it. However his issues were around the bells that sound because the doors is open, keys in the ignition, etc not how it performed or drove. They put it up againt an S4 at the track.

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Silver Dollar
12-11-07, 02:05 PM
just could not take all the rattles and a stick in Brooklyn NY is hell!!! ...anyway when i had the v i would look at posts about people beating srt8 and getting hyped now i love story's about srt8 beating V's

we are all crazy people whatever car we have it has to be the best !!!!!

Hummm :rolleyes:

I guy with 14 total post comes in to rag the V and brag about the 300.

Get lost troll.

nunii
12-11-07, 02:22 PM
maybe u should read my post all over again i did not say anything negative about my v experience ....but now i will i had the car for 4-5 months and i only DROVE 800 miles on it most of the miles have been driven to the dealership i could not stand to drive it i had to take my girls Lexus for that reason !!!!! now with the SRt-8 its a whole new story i drive the car all day long !!!!! sorry to bother all of you but just telling the truth !!!

as for the V looks the car is beautiful ,fast ,but just to much problems

sorry i only MADE 14 post does that not give me the right to an opinion!!


like i said god willing i will be back here when the 09 comes out

Gordy Petrovski
12-11-07, 02:40 PM
Great car,enjoy :cheers:

DarkKnight
12-11-07, 02:43 PM
maybe u should read my post all over again i did not say anything negative about my v experience ....but now i will i had the car for 4-5 months and i only DROVE 800 miles on it most of the miles have been driven to the dealership i could not stand to drive it i had to take my girls Lexus for that reason !!!!! now with the SRt-8 its a whole new story i drive the car all day long !!!!! sorry to bother all of you but just telling the truth !!!

as for the V looks the car is beautiful ,fast ,but just to much problems

sorry i only MADE 14 post does that not give me the right to an opinion!!


like i said god willing i will be back here when the 09 comes out

Then just leave, why tell us. If you had nothing to offer or gain here then why even inform us of your new car unless it was to poke at us and the V. Be happy with your new car and leave us with ours.
When you trade your SRT in for the new V will you inform the 300 forums on that as well?

nunii
12-11-07, 02:47 PM
Some People Are Just So Senseitive Sorry !!!!!!!!!!


Is Cvp33 Still Allowed Here

nunii
12-11-07, 02:49 PM
Sensitive

Silver Dollar
12-11-07, 03:04 PM
Some People Are Just So Senseitive Sorry !!!!!!!!!!


No, just a low tolerance for douche bags today, and you pegged the meter.

Piss off.

Ferny
12-11-07, 03:49 PM
:abuse: lol

try this forum, its pretty cool over their. i check up every now and then!

300cforums.com

urbanski
12-11-07, 04:19 PM
i prefer 342cforums.com

joshdctsv
12-11-07, 05:04 PM
8 months later, I'm happy with the SRT8 trade. The V is more fun on twisties and those that track would never certainly make the switch because the 300 really is a boat, but for a daily driver with the ability to occasionally floor it and scare yourself, the SRT does a great job. I miss the stick and the nimbleness, but I'm glad to be (mostly) worry free on the maintenance issues.

I'll still be watching for the 09 V though...

(and this is still the best car forum I've ever been to, hands down)

nunii
12-11-07, 05:06 PM
maybe i was wrong !!! again sorry

rand49er
12-11-07, 05:09 PM
Who we talkin' about?

onebadcad
12-11-07, 05:12 PM
i prefer 342cforums.com

CVP33angrybastardw/300Cbarge&bannedfrombuttwipeforums.com is the very best forum out there, well except for ours!!!

cbloveday
12-11-07, 05:38 PM
:abuse: lol

try this forum, its pretty cool over their. i check up every now and then!

300cforums.com


Also are srtconnection.com and srt8oc.com

Great group on both sites to help you with troubles or mods and you'll be

welcome.

sy1172
12-11-07, 06:10 PM
Hummm :rolleyes:

I guy with 14 total post comes in to rag the V and brag about the 300.

Get lost troll.

Troll, real nice. It's a Cadillac forum, what do you expect. Lighten up!:thehand:

Silver Dollar
12-11-07, 06:26 PM
.....It's a Cadillac forum, what do you expect.....

You're damn right it is.

What do I expect?

I expect people who trade their caddy for something else also take a course in reading comprehension. It says it right at the top of the page:

CadillacOwners.com
Cadillac Owners and Enthusiasts

If it said Ex-Cadillac owners who have sore pu$$ies I'd leave it to him and go post somewhere else.

onebadcad
12-11-07, 06:35 PM
SD,
You are on fire bro',,, I guess I will wait to announce I traded my V today for a Magnum 4-cylinder.

Silver Dollar
12-11-07, 06:39 PM
It's like clubbin' baby seals. Not really much sport in it.

nunii
12-11-07, 06:41 PM
silver dollar you are a psychotic man i feel very sorry for you ...call me when you come to Brooklyn !!!! iam sorry i got rid of the v i will buy another when i come around to it

1QUICKV
12-11-07, 06:45 PM
Thats good that you got rid of the crapy CTS-V, because as it stands now, i'm the only only one in Brooklyn that i know of with a silver/black V! And now your the 10th srt8 owner. Be happy everyone has the same car as you.

nunii
12-11-07, 06:52 PM
1quickv did u not lose to a srt8 on streetfire !!!

CIWS
12-11-07, 07:00 PM
Needed a Slushie because of traffic, don't like rattles, enjoys comfort and improved technology with more horsepower, that's all understandable. But I chose to go to the STS-V instead. :thumbsup:

nunii
12-11-07, 07:01 PM
nice car !!!

trukk
12-11-07, 07:05 PM
LOL, SD maka-me-laf.

-Chris

WTF is up with rep? I'd give SD points, but no love on the rep :confused:

CIWS
12-11-07, 07:07 PM
Big King Mystical Sal killed the reps.

trukk
12-11-07, 07:27 PM
Big King Mystical Sal killed the reps.

I summon Big King Mystical Sal, by calling him a ***ula, and asking him to explain himself! :lildevil:

-Chris

96Fleetwood
12-11-07, 07:30 PM
Good choice IMO. My Dad (an avid Caddy enthusiast) just got his second SRT8. His first was a Brilliant Black SRT8 Charger. The new one is a Superbee SRT8 Charger. He has driven both the STS-V and CTS-V... if the CTS-V came in an auto, he would have bought it (he has a bad knee), but the SRT8 makes up for it in other categories.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/leloz/Picture001.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/leloz/Picture075.jpg

:cool:

trukk
12-11-07, 07:46 PM
Good choice IMO. My Dad (an avid Caddy enthusiast) just got his second SRT8. His first was a Brilliant Black SRT8 Charger. The new one is a Superbee SRT8 Charger. He has driven both the STS-V and CTS-V... if the CTS-V came in an auto, he would have bought it (he has a bad knee), but the SRT8 makes up for it in other categories.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/leloz/Picture001.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/leloz/Picture075.jpg

:cool:


If those came in a stick, were 400 lbs lighter, wasn't ugly as hell, and wasn't a Dodge, I'd be all over that!

Seriously though, My dad had a 383 '68 Charger. That was a Charger! That think up there, is not.:thehand:

-Chris

CIWS
12-11-07, 07:57 PM
nice car !!!

Thanks, I'm enjoying it quite a lot. A great combination of real luxury, handling and performance.

nunii
12-11-07, 08:02 PM
if the v did not have issues like rear diff ,rattles, i would keep it!!!

96Fleetwood
12-11-07, 08:35 PM
If those came in a stick, were 400 lbs lighter, wasn't ugly as hell, and wasn't a Dodge, I'd be all over that!

Seriously though, My dad had a 383 '68 Charger. That was a Charger! That think up there, is not.:thehand:

-Chris


You are right, it is not a '68 Charger. However, it does make a nice daily driver with Bluetooth, front and rear DVD, Navi, etc etc.. even though my Dad has a SL55 AMG and 760Li in the garage, he prefers to take the SuperBee :thumbsup:

RightTurn
12-11-07, 08:41 PM
nunii--congrats on the new ride!

96fleetwood--the superbee is kewl. :yup:

nunii
12-11-07, 08:45 PM
thanx buddy

cbloveday
12-11-07, 08:46 PM
Dudes,

Just mod it. I can't do anything about the weight of my 300 srt8 Curb weight is 4100. I can however add a brembo cross drilled rotors, hotchkis sways, KWs coilovers and the braided lines and a strut bar.
Would you guys then be nice to the pig?
I did mod all of the above except the KWs. They are next on the mod list.

CIWS
12-11-07, 09:57 PM
thanx buddy


:D :histeric:

CVP33
12-11-07, 11:09 PM
1) Congrats on the SRT-8 purchase. Great car and will serve you well.
2) I'm only banned on the 300C forums and damned proud of it!
3) Curtis, what the hell are you doing swimming with the sharks over here. Ballsy man, ballsy.
4) I'm back in 2010 with a Chesrown executive car. Once the bugs are worked out completely.
5) A souped up SRT-8 will still have a VERY hard time keeping up with the V's on a road course.

On the fast portions of the track I was able to keep up with John's CTS-V and frankly most everything else. But once he hit the uphill essess at VIR I was toast. I didn't dare enter that portion of the track higher than 100mph. I believe John was taking that at 110-115 mph. My 300 didn't like the transitions at 100+ and there's no run-off room there, so no way I was going to try to push it there.

Had a great talk with John regarding the new 2009 CTS-V and what he was able to see from their test at VIR. Sounds like a beefier rear diff is in place and hopefully the chassis is a little more sorted out this go 'round. If so I'm back in 2010 with a Chesrown executive car. :thumbsup:

cbloveday
12-11-07, 11:23 PM
Chris,

I knew you would eventually show up.
You know I have a sweet tooth for cadillacs. You caught me with my hand in the cookie jar, the 09 CTS-V.
The guys over here are not THAT BAD, just loyal and I can't fault them for that.
Now that you know I'm here, I would appreciate a tour!

Mallet-V
12-11-07, 11:40 PM
Congrats on the Srt. I looked at them before getting the V, but I walked away bored after driving a few. They do have some good power, but I'm pretty confident with my V if I encounter one.

CVP33
12-11-07, 11:49 PM
Chris,

I knew you would eventually show up.
You know I have a sweet tooth for cadillacs. You caught me with my hand in the cookie jar, the 09 CTS-V.
The guys over here are not THAT BAD, just loyal and I can't fault them for that.
Now that you know I'm here, I would appreciate a tour!

Lot's of good guys here that REALLY know their cars. Mod's are VERY cool and the "lifers" are a great bunch. You can see my "join" date, so I've been here a good long time. I've met about 8 guys off the forums and they're real car guys. Met 3 of them up at VIR last weekend and once you get past all the Caddy vs. Chrysler crap we're all just car nuts. There's just something about seeing these huge 4 door sedans ripping down the straightaways at VIR with Porches, BMW and Corvettes waving us by. :sneaky:

1QUICKV
12-11-07, 11:49 PM
Okay so lets see.... I still see the V being better then the Srt8 in everyway! Okay fine he rear ends go, but it depends on how you drive, you have to know when to flat step it and when not to. It is a stick shift car but it's not auto. You have more to do then shift. Any GM Sports car right now is better then Any srt model. Compare the z06 to the new viper. 650hp and the zo6 is a second behind with only 505 hp. Gm is much better. Rattles where? if you hit a pot hole in Brooklyn dam right the cars goin to rattle it's a car not a truck!. I raced the silver Srt8 300 and beat him, and others. Red Srt8 charger and a black srt 8 jeep I'm talking Stock v. stock. the V wins.

cbloveday
12-12-07, 12:18 AM
Lets get past this because I'll have an 09 CTS-V.
I'll take your word for it that the stock V will take a stock SRT8.
I wish I could have confirmed this when I was stock.
As you can see by my sig, I am not stock. The last CTS-V
I came across only saw my side, then my tail lights.

Lord Cadillac
12-12-07, 01:30 AM
I could be wrong but I think you're in for a huge surprise in regards to reliability and dealership experience with the Chrysler. See how you feel in 6 months or so.. Too bad about the Caddy, though.. I've had nothing but great experiences in all my years.. My Wife has a 300C and the experience has been our worst ever... Could be isolated, however..


Good for you. I too bought an SRT-8, just the Jeep, not the 300. The whole Jeep/Chyrsler (never thought I would say it) is great. What a car, tight as can be, not a rattle of any kind, build quality and materials is FAR better, the features blow the V out of the water, the power is more (Jeep is quicker too IMHO). I can't say enough. Now granted, the SRT-8 (2008 model) has three years of innovations in it over the V but it is just such a better car. I would have to imagine that the 300 SRT-8 is the same way. Personally, I am done with Cadillac. My V went from love to dislike in a 2-3 month period as so many little things kept going wrong. It's in the dealer now for the third time in two months for another laundry list of stupid things.

Good for you, enjoy it!!!

Lord Cadillac
12-12-07, 01:34 AM
You must be new to the internet. Take my advice - don't let people get to you like you do. Online, people say things to piss you off more often than in person. Get used to it and learn not to take it personally...


maybe u should read my post all over again i did not say anything negative about my v experience ....but now i will i had the car for 4-5 months and i only DROVE 800 miles on it most of the miles have been driven to the dealership i could not stand to drive it i had to take my girls Lexus for that reason !!!!! now with the SRt-8 its a whole new story i drive the car all day long !!!!! sorry to bother all of you but just telling the truth !!!

as for the V looks the car is beautiful ,fast ,but just to much problems

sorry i only MADE 14 post does that not give me the right to an opinion!!


like i said god willing i will be back here when the 09 comes out

bossplayer
12-12-07, 05:47 AM
Hey guys, long time no post, sorry. Been really busy and junk.....

Any ways, WTF is this junk about a RATTLE, I have none and I remember a thread about this b4. Anyways I think it is like 1 out of 5 are plagued by something like this at higher road speeds. That would suck!!!

My car is tight!!!

Just wanted to add that.

Oh, and still get the sweeeet reactions when the beast decides to roar, and even when it doesn't by the few that know what it is!!!

SRTs are a dime a dozen, but hey, sometimes I wish I didn't have my V. Like when I went at 1-4 MPH to see Christmas lights with my 3yo son at Christmas in the park. Stickshift sucked then.

urbanski
12-12-07, 07:02 AM
mad tite yo

CIWS
12-12-07, 08:36 AM
You must be new to the internet. Take my advice - don't let people get to you like you do. Online, people say things to piss you off more often than in person. Get used to it and learn not to take it personally...

:yeah: :worship:


I had my CTSV for 2 years / 36,600 Still had the same diff, no whines. No warranty work was ever required for the car, just a TSB issue. Which is part of the reason I got another Cadillac, albeit a slushbox.
But hey anytime any SRT8 drivers want to compare performance, handling, luxury, or features just stop by your local Cadillac dealership and check out the STS-V. One of the local 300 SRT8 drivers already has mine after he got to see my big black Cadi outrun him and was curious about the car. Plus with deals like this out there...
http://www.sewellone.com/detail-2006-cadillac-sts-cadillac_certified_v-2307452.html

..to say you can't afford one, can't be true. :)

ScottR
12-12-07, 10:41 AM
Found this while I was doing research on the V...probably an old post but just another reason I picked the V.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0502_muscle_car_comparison

cbloveday
12-12-07, 12:10 PM
I could be wrong but I think you're in for a huge surprise in regards to reliability and dealership experience with the Chrysler. See how you feel in 6 months or so.. Too bad about the Caddy, though.. I've had nothing but great experiences in all my years.. My Wife has a 300C and the experience has been our worst ever... Could be isolated, however..

I bought the 300c srt8 used with 11,000 miles on it from my cadillac dealer.
The guys in the service dept told me it was faster than their CTS-V. Oh, this was after it was purchased. I questioned this as I love the V too. I was surprised as I thought the V was lighter and had more horsepower. I have not driven one yet. Anyway, I take the care to Chrysler for maint covered issues. The only problems I have had so far are
1.) Rear Drivers side window regulator
2.) Drivers side control arm was worn at 25,000 miles and replaced.

No other issues and I keep up on the TSB notices.

For any mods that I do, I give it to the cadillac service dept as I like the way they treat me and the car. They also give me a great price on all service.

trukk
12-12-07, 12:56 PM
<SNIP>
On the fast portions of the track I was able to keep up with John's CTS-V and frankly most everything else. But once he hit the uphill essess at VIR I was toast. I didn't dare enter that portion of the track higher than 100mph. I believe John was taking that at 110-115 mph. My 300 didn't like the transitions at 100+ and there's no run-off room there, so no way I was going to try to push it there.

I go through there at 120. John has got to be able to go through there at the top of 4th with his Hoosiers. BY FARRRRRRRR my favortite part of VIR.


<SNIP>There's just something about seeing these huge 4 door sedans ripping down the straightaways at VIR with Porches, BMW and Corvettes waving us by. :sneaky:

You hit the nail on the head with that one. Best part of my weekend was passing that F430 :D. Also passed a bunch of GT3's :D. [Please note: I was in intermediate group, so at that level it's a lot about the driver, which is why I was able to pass some superior track cars.] I followed those two moron's in the ex Groom racing WC Porsche's for about 4 laps in one session, untill one of the McTard's finally slid off track [unlimited bank account != driving skill.] [BTW, at WOT my car is pretty damned loud, those Groom Porsche's were SOOOO LOUD, I couldn't even remotely hear my car.]

-Chris

Mallet-V
12-12-07, 08:15 PM
Lets get past this because I'll have an 09 CTS-V.
I'll take your word for it that the stock V will take a stock SRT8.
I wish I could have confirmed this when I was stock.
As you can see by my sig, I am not stock. The last CTS-V
I came across only saw my side, then my tail lights.

But you have a nice list of mods. Put some nice mods at the V and see what happens. I'd put a nice wager on my V over your modded SRT still.:lildevil:

CTSV_Rob
12-12-07, 08:36 PM
How come Urb hasn't moved this yet? Must be reading and laughing about it.

The only reason I would see going to a 300 would be if I wanted to put 22's on a car. That car needs the bigger wheels to fill the wheel well, not my style.

Heavier (bad), Automatic (yuck), and a Chrysler Product (Ewwwww). I like my V and will not trade for a pig like that.

Out.

P.S. I will not post again and please let this thread disappear.

cbloveday
12-12-07, 09:43 PM
But you have a nice list of mods. Put some nice mods at the V and see what happens. I'd put a nice wager on my V over your modded SRT still.:lildevil:

What mods do you have? If your not modded, I won't waste the fuel
and you really need to stop sniffing your tailpipe.

CVP33
12-12-07, 09:59 PM
1/4 mile - SRT8 wins 90% of the time.

Road Course - CTS-V wins 100% of the time.

Curtis - The Mallets can be highly modified. If your tune is working and your running in the 12.3's like the other's with your mods, you will be close. As I don't think the Mallets are in the 11's.

cbloveday
12-12-07, 10:09 PM
1/4 mile - SRT8 wins 90% of the time.

Road Course - CTS-V wins 100% of the time.

Curtis - The Mallets can be highly modified. If your tune is working and your running in the 12.3's like the other's with your mods, you will be close. As I don't think the Mallets are in the 11's.


Chris,

I'm just the cadillacforum whipping boy:tisk::tisk::suspense:

CTSV_Rob
12-12-07, 10:14 PM
What mods do you have? If your not modded, I won't waste the fuel
and you really need to stop sniffing your tailpipe.
I couldn't resist another post!

If your driving the car your wasting fuel in my opinion.

You really shouldn't play with the Mallet unless you want to cry in a corner when he beats the pi$$ out of you.

The Mallet I know of has a 427 pushing 460 RWHP and 440 RWTQ with a conservitive tune. The beast's could be running a C5R block (this one is) which makes this one bad ass car. With the proper tune, new intake, 90mm throttle body he will be over 500 RWHP and the torque will be quite respectable.

He will take and throw the smack down on your lead sled and leave you for dead.

You should take your weak smack talk to the SRT forum where your buddies will appreciate you.

Good assessment on the Base V and Base SRT though CVP33.

CVP33
12-12-07, 10:19 PM
Rob,

Curtis is close to 500 hp with his mods and with an easy car to launch like the SRT-8 and a stall converter he's in the 12.3 to 12.1 range easy. The Mallets are beasts to be sure, but it's still a hard beast to launch consistently. We had an experienced driver at Richmond last month with very similar mod's to Curtis, hit 11.9's in great air. He did have drag radials, but
it can be done.

cbloveday
12-12-07, 10:22 PM
I just paid $50 to find out about the Vs and I got my $ worth. Saved me a test drive.

DarkKnight
12-12-07, 10:22 PM
I am 7 wins against SRTs and 0 lost in the past three years.

CTSV_Rob
12-12-07, 10:33 PM
I just paid $50 to find out about the Vs and I got my $ worth. Saved me a test drive.
Glad to hear you got your money's worth and you should have test drove one anyways.

At least you would be able to compare the cars even though you seem to be a bit biased.

Still wondering why your posting here :hmm:, is the SRT forum a bit dry? I have never been there, maybe I need to check it out.

I don't plan to drag my car and Slush boxes are great for that but that's not the reason I bought this car. I'm sure your times are good in that car but with an Automatic I'm guessing my wife could turn similiar runs after a couple of try's in that car.

Where is the fun in the light turns greeen and mash the throttle? If your going to go in a straight line for a quarter mile I like to break it up with some shifting.

Be proud of your car, it is a fine car but it's not the car for me. I would much rather be in a mallet V then a highly modified SRT.

Instead of saying how you could beat the shat out of us in the quarter mile and you shouldn't waste the gas I say stop flapping your gums and go out and do it. Much more fun.

CTSV_Rob
12-12-07, 10:38 PM
Rob,

Curtis is close to 500 hp with his mods and with an easy car to launch like the SRT-8 and a stall converter he's in the 12.3 to 12.1 range easy. The Mallets are beasts to be sure, but it's still a hard beast to launch consistently. We had an experienced driver at Richmond last month with very similar mod's to Curtis, hit 11.9's in great air. He did have drag radials, but
it can be done.
That's nice but why is he even on this site talking about his SRT?

As far as difficult to launch I would have to agree but there are a few on this site that have proven the V can run in the 11's without a slush box.

Funny part is the person with the Mallet would much rather run it on the track. After all that's what it was designed for. So we will never see what this car can do in the quarter mile but I don't think that's a problem either.

Do what you enjoy. Go brag to your friends in the SRT forum, I'm sure they will feed on it.

CVP33
12-12-07, 10:43 PM
I go through there at 120. John has got to be able to go through there at the top of 4th with his Hoosiers. BY FARRRRRRRR my favortite part of VIR.

-Chris

That's stupid fast. I couldn't enter higher than 100mph and then I'd build to 115 before setting up for the downhill transition into Oak Tree. As for the Groom Porsche, absolutely obnoxious. I couldn't even here myself think when that thing went by. Both you and John were hot on his ass coming off 17 as I stood on the second floor balcony. I wish I had video of my car coming down the straight. The Chin guys said it sounded great but alas I can only hear it from inside the car. Your V's sounded great as well. Much better than any of the Porsches.

cbloveday
12-12-07, 10:49 PM
Glad to hear you got your money's worth and you should have test drove one anyways.

At least you would be able to compare the cars even though you seem to be a bit biased.

Still wondering why your posting here :hmm:, is the SRT forum a bit dry? I have never been there, maybe I need to check it out.

I don't plan to drag my car and Slush boxes are great for that but that's not the reason I bought this car. I'm sure your times are good in that car but with an Automatic I'm guessing my wife could turn similiar runs after a couple of try's in that car.

Where is the fun in the light turns greeen and mash the throttle? If your going to go in a straight line for a quarter mile I like to break it up with some shifting.

Be proud of your car, it is a fine car but it's not the car for me. I would much rather be in a mallet V then a highly modified SRT.

Instead of saying how you could beat the crap out of us in the quarter mile and you shouldn't waste the gas I say stop flapping your gums and go out and do it. Much more fun.


I plan to buy the 2009 CTS V as stated in a previous post. That is why I am here. I never said I would beat the shit out of the CTS-V in the quarter mile.
I thought you guys would accept me as I own a Cadillac ESV, although my wife drives it. You guys have some pent up hostility and are bitter from the M and AMG class beating up on you. Keep your $50 and buy some manners. Giving the brand a bad name. Later

CVP33
12-12-07, 10:58 PM
I plan to buy the 2009 CTS V as stated in a previous post. That is why I am here. I never said I would beat the shit out of the CTS-V in the quarter mile.
I thought you guys would accept me as I own a Cadillac ESV, although my wife drives it. You guys have some pent up hostility and are bitter from the M and AMG class beating up on you. Keep your $50 and buy some manners. Giving the brand a bad name. Later

Curtis,

The minimum price of admission here is a CTS-V and at least one blown rear differential. :yup: Ah crap, banned again! :canttalk:

theloanman219
12-12-07, 11:20 PM
I have a question. If this is a V forum and you plan on buying one when the new one comes out...Why are there even talks about srt8 v cts V? There will always be someone faster. Who the HELL cares?

And of the minimum price of being here a V why are there guys coming here everyday without V's? We must be a great bunch of guys :)

type911
12-12-07, 11:23 PM
I am 7 wins against SRTs and 0 lost in the past three years.

2and 0 for me.

CTSV_Rob
12-12-07, 11:35 PM
...The last CTS-V
I came across only saw my side, then my tail lights.


What mods do you have? If your not modded, I won't waste the fuel
and you really need to stop sniffing your tailpipe.


I plan to buy the 2009 CTS V as stated in a previous post. That is why I am here. I never said I would beat the shit out of the CTS-V in the quarter mile.
I thought you guys would accept me as I own a Cadillac ESV, although my wife drives it. You guys have some pent up hostility and are bitter from the M and AMG class beating up on you. Keep your $50 and buy some manners. Giving the brand a bad name. Later

I apologize for coming off a bit harsh but I came into this thread a little late. I thought I was just playing your game and sorry if I offended you. I should have read back as it seems you were a bit civil but as you can see in the couple of posts above you were a bit standoffish and your not completely clean in this either.

I don't believe asking someone to stop sniffing their tail pipe is very good manners.

From your posts you seem to be a good guy. Sounds like you have a fast car and sounds like a nice car but for problems I have had with some Chrysler products I highly doubt I will buy another in the near future.

Bottom line is you bought american and I do respect that :thumbsup:

If you like the 300 SRT-8 I'm sure you will love the 09 V.

theloanman219
12-12-07, 11:42 PM
brother don't shake hands brothers gotta hug!

Mallet-V
12-12-07, 11:56 PM
For someone crying about being a whipping boy you sure come across pretty arrogant. Bragging about beating stock cars with a heavily modified car doesn't impress anyone. Does it impress you that I'm 4-0 against lightly modified 300C Srt's, racing in my Trailblazer? I'm not bashing the 300, I still might get one at some point. I just don't consider it nice enough to consider my toy vehicle, and I get more utility out of my Trailblazer right now.

I don't like e-racing, but I would bet that our cars are very close in horsepower. While you might have a launch advantage, I just might have a bit of a weight advantage. Either way, enjoy your car. But I'm sure you'll be happier in a 09 V when it arrives.

05cts-v
12-13-07, 01:33 AM
Okay so lets see.... I still see the V being better then the Srt8 in everyway! Okay fine he rear ends go, but it depends on how you drive, you have to know when to flat step it and when not to. It is a stick shift car but it's not auto. You have more to do then shift. Any GM Sports car right now is better then Any srt model. Compare the z06 to the new viper. 650hp and the zo6 is a second behind with only 505 hp. Gm is much better. Rattles where? if you hit a pot hole in Brooklyn dam right the cars goin to rattle it's a car not a truck!. I raced the silver Srt8 300 and beat him, and others. Red Srt8 charger and a black srt 8 jeep I'm talking Stock v. stock. the V wins.


Up top you will beat the SRT 8 Jeep but on a short distance run the SRT 8 Jeep will beat the V everytime( stock for stock ) and if drivers are equal. My 05 V has rattles as well and no potholes here but I still enjoy the car. Lets not forget the SRt cars hold their value a little better as well and thats always a plus.

bossplayer
12-13-07, 02:01 AM
2and 0 for me.

2 and 0 for me also, but none were from dead stop.... just doesnt happen that much.

stkshkr
12-13-07, 03:40 AM
I'd be pleased to race you. Are your BES heads from Bischoff Engine Service? If so you must be close to me. BTW I like 300 SRT8's, great american muscle.

cbloveday
12-13-07, 10:30 AM
The heads, cam and intake manifold are from these guys. I apologize for the the previous comments and do not want to be offensive to anyone. I am here to learn. I think the thread went the wrong way and I will refrain from V vs SRT8 comments. I wouldn't be here unless I respected the CTS-V and I own a ESV. We are all very passionate about our cars. I suspect that I will be just as , if not more, passsionate of the cts-V Mallet car. Also, I will bring some mopar knowledge to the table just as CVP33 has.

Here is the company that produced the heads.

http://www.besracing.com/

This is where I bought the package. http://estore.websitepros.com/802805/Detail.bok?no=1148

I paid $6,500 and then 2m for install.

This is where I found info on the Mallet V http://www.mallettcars.com/ctsv-conversion.htm

Very, very sweet.

I hope this company will have packages that will seamlessly work with the 09 cts-v supercharged powerplant. I suspect they will........

Kurlee Daddee
12-13-07, 11:41 AM
This is one of the biggest cock fights I have ever seen on a internet forum. And to think it lasted for 9 pages. HAHAHA.

Anyways, I am glad you guys like your SRT-8's. They are nice vehicles. I will never own another Chrysler product. But that's just me. Even though my experience was with my SRT-4. The service was terrible and they tried anything they could to void warranty's so they wouldn't have to pay for claims.

I am very happy with my V. Cadillac goes out of their way everytime I bring it to the shop to make sure I am satisfied. I also love shifting my car, as that is one of the main reasons I bought it. I couldn't hang with a slushbox. I just feel too disconnected from the vehicle.

Guys be happy for what you have, be it a V or an SRT-8. We all drive current American Musclecars. Go out there and have fun in them. Who knows when the Muscleca wars will be over and all they will be selling is electric cars.:tisk:

MachX
12-13-07, 12:18 PM
whoa man, and I thought Cadillac forums members knew how to enjoy and respect other makes of cars! how could you POSSIBLY dislike a large luxury (some might debate that, but not the point) sedan with Mercedes E-Class ride and handling and a burly american OVERHEAD VALVE V8 with hemi headed cylinders and 340 hp? Kurlee has the right idea, we should be sharing the love of big fast steel, not getting into pissing matches. And the muscle car war may wax and wan, but it'll never die. Ford is pushing the HELL out of hydrogen tech, and there have also been h2 powered bimmers cruising around Beverly Hills. Once this ultra clean fuel is more widespread LOOK OUT. We'll never worry about running out of fuel within the conceivable future.

Albertan
12-13-07, 04:36 PM
Gee, maybe I can be the bridge between GM and Mopar. In the late 60's I had a 1956 Chev. I wanted a 327 but they were hard to find. Chrysler 383's were available so I rebuilt it with cam, headers intake etc put it and a torqueflite transmission in the car. It was my daily driver for years, drove it in 40 below zero and it could stay even with the old GTX's and the like. Only problem was STOPPING! The old drum brakes didn't like to stop from 100+ at the end of the 1/4 mile.
Sold it to buy a house in 1975. That was my last Mopar, not that I don't like them I just like GM/Cadillac more.

sy1172
12-13-07, 07:39 PM
I plan to buy the 2009 CTS V as stated in a previous post. That is why I am here. I never said I would beat the shit out of the CTS-V in the quarter mile.
I thought you guys would accept me as I own a Cadillac ESV, although my wife drives it. You guys have some pent up hostility and are bitter from the M and AMG class beating up on you. Keep your $50 and buy some manners. Giving the brand a bad name. Later

Some of the guys here are tools ... envy I think??? Enjoy the SRT-8, awesome car. The V has nothing on it....and I own both :highfive:

SuperV_Rob
12-13-07, 07:55 PM
nine (9) pages and counting.... I really have nothing to add; however I wanted to be a part of Internet automotive history :D What can be said about a bunch of grown up toys that children (big boys; whats the difference) LOVE so passionately? If we all had good sense, we would have a lot more money; unfortunately, we would have a lot less FUN :D

cbloveday
12-13-07, 09:03 PM
I spoke to the cadillac dealership today and spoke to the boys in the service dept. The service manager called to thank my wife for the 3 dozen christmas cookies she sent them. They have always treated us so well in 07 with the mod installations on my srt8 (I bought it from them as well as the ESV). We were on the way to see my 4 year old's christmas performance (he's from my 1st marriage). We were all piled in the ESV and I asked him about the 09 CTS-V and when it comes out. He said he would be glad to buy back the SRT8 as alot of the shop guys were interested in it and enjoyed driving it. Anyway, he said, "As soon as they have one they will call me immediately and buy back the srt8 and put me in the CTS-V. I told him great and then I will need them to mod it. He laughed and said, "Of course Mr. Loveday,
anything related to your car, you can come to me. What amazed me last is, I show up with 4 new rsa tires and stock srt8 rims with rubber on them and asked them to
remove the custom rims and tires on the srt8 and put them in the Escalade. Then remove the rubber from the stock rims and shod them with the new RSAs, then mount them and balance them for me. All this was done for $100. That is cadillac style. That is another reason while I will never buy another car anywhere else. I feel guilty about not spending my $ at cadillac.
Few places realize that the service department can solidify repeat business......

roman371
12-13-07, 09:21 PM
how could you POSSIBLY dislike a large luxury (some might debate that, but not the point) sedan with Mercedes E-Class ride and handling and a burly american OVERHEAD VALVE V8 with hemi headed cylinders and 340 hp?

You will dislike them even less when you learn that they have 425HP and 420Tq.:patriot:

There are a lot of forces working against the muscle car resurrection. Enjoy them while you can.

CVP33
12-13-07, 09:52 PM
You will dislike them even less when you learn that they have 425HP and 420Tq.:patriot:

There are a lot of forces working against the muscle car resurrection. Enjoy them while you can.

Amen. I've enjoyed the performance of my 2004 CTS-V, 2005 CTS-V, 2006 SRT-8, 2006 SRT-8 and I'm sure I will enjoy the 2009 CTS-V when it comes out. The forces you speak of, I fear, will make these the good ol' days of modern muscle. Enjoy!