: Review: 2003 Lincoln Navigator Ultimate



Jesda
12-10-07, 10:31 PM
Goodbye Range Rover, hello Navigator. The Range Rover had a warranty, but the important parts were on national back order, and I was starting to rely on it for business. I also didn't want to imagine what would happen if it broke down during long-distance travel.

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Specs:
Body on frame
Fully indpendent air suspension
Ford Triton 5.4L V8 - (300hp/355lb-ft)
Ford 4-speed auto w/OD
6000lbs (600lbs more than Range Rover)
11/16mpg (Observed: 12-13 mixed, 17-18.5 highway)

Features:
Power running boards
Power remote-activated liftgate
Power adjustable pedals
Power seats
Heated seats
Air conditioned seats
GPS navigation
DVD player
In-dash CD changer
Moonroof
Voice-activated commands

History: Navigator came out in 1998 as a gussied up Expedition. In 2003, Jaguar engineers gave it car-like handling, a stunning new interior, and fully independent suspension.

Highs: Interior, GPS navigation, styling, ride, steering/handling, luxury features, comfort, space, payload, towing capacity, reliability

Lows: Resale value, braking

Braking: 2/5 -- Spongy pedal and a lot of effort is required to make it stop. Its on par with a midsize sedan. Not dangerous, but not fun.

Suspension: 4/5 -- Ride quality is excellent, but the Range Rover and Escalade are still a bit softer. Around corners, it does NOT feel like its going to flip over. Body roll is exceptionally well controlled, arguably better than the Rover, despite being 600lbs heavier. This can be deceiving in hard maneuvers, as body roll serves as a crude but functional indicator of cornering forces. I drive SUVs pretty gently, so I'm not too worried about flipping over.

Steering: 5/5 -- It actually out-steers the Range Rover and most cars. It definitely feels much nicer than the Q45 and 240. The wheel itself is small. On-center feel is decent and turning action is quick and precise. Nicely done, Jaguar guys. Nicely done.

Comfort/Climate: 5/5 -- The third row fits ADULTS thanks to IRS. Heated and air conditioned seats are very effective. Rear seats get their own climate controls, which are SIMPLE to use. For the Range Rover, I had to spend 15 minutes reading the manuals to understand all the vaguely labeled knobs and switches. In the Lincoln, symbols and functions were like any car.

Interior: 4/5 -- This one has a professionally installed burlwood kit. Normally, the dash and center console are finished in "satin nickel", a plastic resembling aluminum. Seating comfort is amazing, with couch-like width and sufficient side bolsters.
Seats fold flat opening up an ENORMOUS cargo area. The power liftgate system does intrude on third row head room. Two buttons fold down the third row seats flat into the floor.
Materials aren't on par with Lexus, Land Rover, Audi, MB, BMW, or the 2007 Escalade, but everything is precisely assembled with no rattles or squeaks. If you knock on the door panels and various surfaces, you can tell that everything is a step down from the Range Rover, but it presents itself well enough.
Power running boards pop out when the doors are opened and make ingress/egress MUCH easier.
The power liftgate is NEAT. As you're approaching with bags of groceries or a dolly full of boxes, you can tap the button on the remote to have it fully open. Tap again to close.

Audio/Navigation: 5/5 -- Outstanding. Pioneer's GPS navigation head unit is VERY precise. Some of the menus are confusing, but once figured out its far easier to use than BMW's nonsensical garbage installed in the Range Rover. It took me to my exact destination each time.
The lady in the navigation/voice command system sounds cold and clinical, like she's about to give me a prostate exam without the jollies.
Lincoln calls it the "Audiophile" system. Mids and highs are just kind of there and it could use a lot more power, but bass is super precise, strong, and punchy. Thats what you want in a car anyway.

Body/Styling: 4/5 -- Its not as pretty as the Rover, but thats how I like it. Understated but still beautiful without being too pretentious or drawing attention from unsavory people.

Acceleration: 3/5 -- 0-60 in 10 seconds. Throttle is too jerky off the line and there isn't much power up top. Low and mid range acceleration are strong, important when carrying lots of people and cargo. More gentle throttle response would be better for towing. I wouldn't call it slow, but it isn't that quick. Still powerful.

Overall: 5/5 -- It is indeed a step down from what I called "the greatest vehicle ever made", but its practical, reliable, and much more comfortable, with arguably better handling. I save $300 a month as well. With half the miles and a lower price, its hard to say no to.
For people who want something nice without looking like British royalty or getting stranded (Range Rover), don't want the boredom associated with a Lexus LX, and don't want to be pulled over for being associated with drug dealers (Escalade), the Navigator is perfect.

Florian
12-10-07, 10:40 PM
my old ladys 04 Aviator has the same interior. I hate the fooking window switch location and operation....not intuitive at all. Other than that youll have access to boatloads of parts and easy availability of said parts.
Enjoy the sled.


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Playdrv4me
12-10-07, 10:53 PM
I watched, for reasons beyond my own comprehension, most of "Are we there yet" tonight on FX's "DVD on TV". They said they started out with 10 Navigators that were that exact model and color (except beige inside) and 5 sets of 20000.00 Spinner wheels.

When they were done filming, 2 usable cars remained.

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caddycruiser
12-10-07, 11:05 PM
Sounds great!

And interesting we now have the review of 2 members, for the exact SAME vehicle;)

I've always liked the '03-06 Navigator more than the Escalade, because it's a much better done piece throughout. The Escalade has more power, and some like it's slightly sportier driving dynamics and feel more...but there's no denying the Lincoln always had the "right" size, layout, look, features, etc. and feels ritzier than the still too Chevy '02-06 Escalade ever did.

Now...what might Jesda have next...

ted tcb
12-10-07, 11:36 PM
Ok, I'm slightly confused.
Looking at that rare wood kit, I'm guessing that this is Ian's Navigator?
Did you guys trade vehicles again?
I guess its easier than cleaning the ashtrays.

Playdrv4me
12-10-07, 11:41 PM
Ok, I'm slightly confused.
Looking at that rare wood kit, I'm guessing that this is Ian's Navigator?
Did you guys trade vehicles again?
I guess its easier than cleaning the ashtrays.

LMAO yes we traded again.

Jesda was getting absolutely anal-raped on Insurance for the Range Rover, and after spending a couple of months with the Navigator, I decided I liked the driving characteristics of the Rangie alot more. It's a much more spirited truck to drive and the seating position is amazing.

By the way, it really made my day that you thought so much of my LS recommendation, I'm glad you are enjoying it.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-10-07, 11:50 PM
Great review and pictures....so how does it feel to be back in an American car again?

Jesda
12-10-07, 11:53 PM
Its funny.... I often forget its American. Is that good?

ted tcb
12-10-07, 11:54 PM
Enjoying the LS400 is putting it mildly.
This is my 47th car, and is in a league by itself.
I'm so accustomed to listening to every mechanical noise/quirk in my previous cars.
This thing just feels like every nut was turned an extra inch or so.
I'd really like to keep it as my daily driver for many, many years to come.
Quite a statement for someone who has owned 15 different cars since Aug.2002.

I followed the Lexus boards for years, but getting positive feedback from you and Jesda really helped
me make the leap.
I still want another Caddy as a weekend toy ... next time, it will be an Eldorado ESC.

What's your mom driving?
Still searching for a newer ride for her?

Playdrv4me
12-10-07, 11:57 PM
Enjoying the LS400 is putting it mildly.
This is my 47th car, and is in a league by itself.
I'm so accustomed to listening to every mechanical noise/quirk in my previous cars.
This thing just feels like every nut was turned an extra inch or so.
I'd really like to keep it as my daily driver for many, many years to come.
Quite a statement for someone who has owned 15 different cars since Aug.2002.

I followed the Lexus boards for years, but getting positive feedback from you and Jesda really helped
me make the leap.
I still want another Caddy as a weekend toy ... next time, it will be an Eldorado ESC.

What's your mom driving?
Still searching for a newer ride for her?

Shes got the 2000 Jeep Cherokee Limited now. She doesnt like it as much as her old LS400 so I feel bad, but right now I cant do anything about it until I get this other situation straightened out.

So yes, I screwed up.

Cadillacboy
12-11-07, 06:02 AM
I didn't not expect that you would get this vehicle quite soon .It's like you bought off another forum member's vehicle lol .
What's gonna be the next ? '07 'lade I think ;)

RightTurn
12-11-07, 08:40 AM
Nice looking 'Gator, J. :thumbsup:

c5 rv
12-11-07, 12:27 PM
Nice Navigator. Tree huggers around the world are mourning the wood used in the interior.

gothicaleigh
12-11-07, 12:30 PM
You go through more cars than anyone I have ever known. How many has it been this year alone? :p

Nice truck. Always liked the interiors in those, but the exterior styling never did anything for me (although you did get it in the right color).

Rolex
12-11-07, 01:07 PM
The interior of those things = beautiful. I have always thought that. The new models are very unattractive though. :tisk:

Jesda
12-11-07, 01:28 PM
The interior of those things = beautiful. I have always thought that. The new models are very unattractive though. :tisk:

Yeah! The hideous grille, the 70s Thunderbird tail lights, and the 80s Town Car gauges. Its like they decided to tap into the worst parts of Ford's history.

If there was a way to tone down the tail lights and if there was some kind of aftermarket grille and gauge cluster, I'd go for it. The 2007 Escalade is pure class.

Playdrv4me
12-11-07, 02:05 PM
The 2007 Navigator is the result of what happens when you try to copy Cadillac's "Hip Hop Market Testing", except you could only afford one market tester, and his name is Flavor Flave.

AMGoff
12-11-07, 02:54 PM
Indeed... the biggest advantage the Navigator has over the Escaburbalahoe is the interior... you can tell that they went the extra mile with it, it's really top-notch if you ask me. It's exterior is okay, but nothing special... the Escalade has the definite advantage in that department as well of course, power.

But as much as I like the way the Escalade looks on the outside, I could never drive one... it's just too much like a Yukon.

Rolex
12-11-07, 02:57 PM
The 2007 Navigator is the result of what happens when you try to copy Cadillac's "Hip Hop Market Testing", except you could only afford one market tester, and his name is Flavor Flave.


Yeeeeaaaahhhhh booooyyyyyyeeeee.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/rolex/Flavor-Flav-ps02.jpg :rofl:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-11-07, 03:01 PM
Yeah! The hideous grille, the 70s Thunderbird tail lights, and the 80s Town Car gauges. Its like they decided to tap into the worst parts of Ford's history.

If there was a way to tone down the tail lights and if there was some kind of aftermarket grille and gauge cluster, I'd go for it. The 2007 Escalade is pure class.


The new models are very unattractive though. :tisk:


Are you guys sniffing glue or what? The '07 Navigator is the best looking one ever, inside and out, based purely on the guages, grille and tail lights. But then again, I've always had a hard-on for the really over-the-top Detroit iron.

Jesda
12-11-07, 06:17 PM
Are you guys sniffing glue or what? The '07 Navigator is the best looking one ever, inside and out, based purely on the guages, grille and tail lights. But then again, I've always had a hard-on for the really over-the-top Detroit iron.

We're not friends anymore.