: Thinking About Retiring the SLS for 94-96 Impala



aamusls06
12-03-07, 11:05 PM
Lately, I've been thinking of retiring the Cadillac SLS. If I have a pretty solid summer from wildland fire fighting I'll be shopping for a 94-96 Impala SS. The Impala rides are nowhere as good as the Caddy, but I've wanted one of these bad boys since I was about 10.

Plus, my buddy just bought an 03 Marauder, and I have to show him what the bad bowtie is all about. Also I want to be able to mod my car kind of heavily.

Playdrv4me
12-04-07, 01:09 AM
You can't go wrong with an Impala... For all intents and purposes I'd consider it a serious step up from a 94 SLS in the power and modification department. Its tough to find one that's not abused so start searching now and be prepared for to be looking for awhile. My favorite year in those is 96, but you can't go wrong with any of them.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-04-07, 01:14 AM
Well, the LT-1 is a definite step up from the Northstar, as is basically the whole powertrain of the SS, but man oh man, the Seville is such a better looking car inside and out. But if you've wanted one since you were ten, I can't really blame you.

There's one at the dealer I work at....19,813 original miles. It's either a '94 or '95 I can't remember, but it's black, and it's got the column shift...it's a theft recovery car. The owner is paying big bucks to repair the damage....it was dragged for six blocks. :eek:

Cadillacboy
12-04-07, 10:24 AM
Yep, go for it you won't fill kickin yourself hence . LT1 engines are perfect yet very solid . I must add you can tune up them easily :sneaky:

andrew99eldorado
12-04-07, 10:38 AM
go for the 96. You will love the floor shifter more then the colum shift. At least in my opinion lol

Cadillacboy
12-04-07, 10:42 AM
LOL,I love colum shifter but most foks in here seem to like floor shifter

z06bigbird
12-04-07, 12:45 PM
Drive one of those in the Memphis area or in Miss, and we will read about you in tomorrow's newspaper. Bubble top cars (like those Impalas) and Escalades get hijacked very quickly. Druggies like those vehicles. Other areas of the country are ok. Oh, yes, one side effect is that driver is likely to get killed so that he/she does not testify in court.

AMGoff
12-04-07, 03:48 PM
There have been numerous times over the years that I've almost pulled the trigger on buying one... I think though, the only reason I'd do so now would be as an investment and not as a daily driver.

At this point, I'd be much more inclined to pick up a '95-'96 Fleetwood as a daily driver... you'd still get to make lots of mods, yet you'd still retain all of the comfort, plushness, and style of a Cadillac.

That's just me though...

aamusls06
12-04-07, 07:18 PM
Drive one of those in the Memphis area or in Miss, and we will read about you in tomorrow's newspaper. Bubble top cars (like those Impalas) and Escalades get hijacked very quickly. Druggies like those vehicles. Other areas of the country are ok. Oh, yes, one side effect is that driver is likely to get killed so that he/she does not testify in court.

Man that hits close to home literally, lol. I'm from Marianna, Arkansas 50 miles outside of Memphis...lol. Born in Memphis. I also go through Mississippi to get to Huntsville, AL for college. I don't think that will keep me from buying one though. Miles really aren't a factor as long as they are highway and not too high. I'm eventually going to build a 383 stroker with Lloyd Elliot headwork. I know there are alot of mods needed to balance that and will be building towards those too.

Crown Vic Owner
12-04-07, 09:15 PM
96 impy SS > SLS

AMGoff
12-04-07, 10:16 PM
96 impy SS > SLS

That's as relative as it is a generalization...

andrew99eldorado
12-05-07, 11:01 AM
Man that hits close to home literally, lol. I'm from Marianna, Arkansas 50 miles outside of Memphis...lol. Born in Memphis. I also go through Mississippi to get to Huntsville, AL for college. I don't think that will keep me from buying one though. Miles really aren't a factor as long as they are highway and not too high. I'm eventually going to build a 383 stroker with Lloyd Elliot headwork. I know there are alot of mods needed to balance that and will be building towards those too.

Marianna huh. Home of the infamous chambers brothers.

96Fleetwood
12-05-07, 11:11 AM
Did you think about a '94-96 Fleetwood?

Same drivetrain as the SS but you can get heated seats, moonroof, and will be driving a car that is cheaper than a SS and cost almost $15K more brand new :D

Check out my cardomain page for more info....

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture022.jpg

95dggm
12-06-07, 01:24 PM
Having owned both cars (SLS and Impala)I would advise getting an SS, or a fleetwood like previous posters advise.

Just remember to make sure if you buy an SS that it is a real one.

One last thought...

B-Bodies are highly addictive Once you get one you will want more...possibly one of each model!!! Remember certain wagons are LT-1 as well.

aamusls06
12-06-07, 09:52 PM
Did you think about a '94-96 Fleetwood?

Same drivetrain as the SS but you can get heated seats, moonroof, and will be driving a car that is cheaper than a SS and cost almost $15K more brand new :D

Check out my cardomain page for more info....

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture022.jpg

Man, that is one bad ass Fleetwood. I had a buddy who had one. It would be tempting, but my heart is set on Impala SS. That's an interesting project though, I'll keep it in mind. Like someone said earlier, I am having problems finding a decent one not dogged out.

It's funny that you can get a Marauder for 13,000 and 12,000. Impalas that have been taken care of are bringing 30,000 with very very very low miles. Even dogged Impalas are around 8000-10,000 range.

Go Badbowtie:want:

LS1Mike
12-06-07, 11:56 PM
Having owned both cars (SLS and Impala)I would advise getting an SS, or a fleetwood like previous posters advise.

Just remember to make sure if you buy an SS that it is a real one.

One last thought...

B-Bodies are highly addictive Once you get one you will want more...possibly one of each model!!! Remember certain wagons are LT-1 as well.

Did the Wagons come with the big LT-1 as well? I have seen them with the Baby LT-1.
A big LT-1 in a wagon is cool!
Well the baby LT-1 is actually a L99...
There was also a 4.3L LT1 available in the big cars which is indistinguishable from the 5.7L, except for the different casting number and 4.3 cast into the top of the block just ahead of the bellhousing flange.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-07-07, 12:05 AM
Yep Mike...I believe the LT-1 was standard in the Caprice Classic Wagons and the Roadmaster Wagons. I don't think the 4.3 V8 was available in the Caprice wagons.

AMGoff
12-07-07, 01:04 AM
The 4.3 V8 was available in the Caprice Wagon for '94-ONLY, it was available in the sedan from '94-'96.

Here's a quick breakdown of engine options for the Caprice's final run, for those interested...

Sedan: - Wagon:

1991 - 5.0/L03, 5.7/L05 - 5.0/L03
1992 - 4.3/L35-V6, 5.0/L03, 5.7/L05 - 5.0/L03, 5.7/L05
1993 - 4.3/L35-V6, 5.0/L03, 5.7/L05 - 5.0/L03, 5.7/L05
1994 - 4.3/L99, 5.7/LT1 - 4.3/L99, 5.7/LT1
1995 - 4.3/L99, 5.7/LT1 - 5.7/LT1
1996 - 4.3/L99, 5.7/LT1 - 5.7/LT1

Brizzal
12-07-07, 01:18 AM
i wanna put an LT1 in my sedan deville :)

MN-STS-LOVER
12-07-07, 01:37 AM
whatever you decide to do...I can say the guy across the street from me has a '96 SS (bought it new) and loves every inch of it. To give you a little backgroung on him, he is a retired NWA mechanic, so high perf. is his life. He also has (IMHO) the best '67 Chevelle /Malibu SS I have ever seen (also bought new! with 25K on it now). I have seen his docs on the car (I keep telling him to take it to Barret Jackson). He is a huge Chevy guy. He loves his Impala SS! I keep bugging him to race my STS (would be a good race) but he just keeps saying he is too old (65) to get a ticket for racing.

Given the HP advantage of his SS he should win...but he does have alot more weight.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-07-07, 01:40 AM
Steve, if he's stock, he's at a disadvantage, as far as HP is concerned, you've got 40 on him.

MN-STS-LOVER
12-07-07, 01:50 AM
I think stock on that is 325?

AMGoff
12-07-07, 01:54 AM
I think stock on that is 325?

A stock Impala SS has a detuned LT1 - It "only" puts out 260HP.... he does have you in torque though with 330lb-ft.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-07-07, 01:55 AM
260 horsepower, 335 lb/ft.

MN-STS-LOVER
12-07-07, 02:01 AM
Yeah...you guys are right...I must have been lookng at the torgue #'s anyway, I don't think it is stock...it sounds too nice. Chad, if you want to check his rides out some time let me know....he likes to talk car more than you do!

aamusls06
12-08-07, 10:28 PM
Also, I wanted to chime in. I drove my buddy's Marauder last night. Not a bad ride actually. One uncomfortable car as far as the seats go, but still not a bad car. I actually would buy one. My preference is still the Impala SS though. It's pretty quick from a roll though. From a dead stop it just doesn't impress me that much. Nice car though.

96Fleetwood
12-09-07, 11:05 AM
With the 3.73 gears & Eaton Posi I put in my Fleetwood... it leaves the hole like a bat out of hell!:thumbsup:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-09-07, 01:23 PM
Hell, my Roadmaster, with the 2.93 gears and posi left like a bat out of hell, atleast out of the hole...I can only imagine what 3:73's would be like.

LS1Mike
12-09-07, 06:48 PM
This thread has hasd me looking at LT1 Wagons.

95dggm
12-10-07, 11:48 AM
Lt-1 wagons are generally not beat on...

An LT-1 should not be slow off the line...if it is there are many things that can cause that including the A.I.R. pump.

AMGoff
12-10-07, 03:57 PM
The only B-body wagon I'd get into would be a '96 Roadmaster - heated seats, climate control, and a vista-roof, and I would want it to look like this:

http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/pictures/1996_Buick_Roadmaster_3.jpg

Then again... if I would get the front clip and interior from a Fleetwood and slap it onto a Caprice wagon, that would be sweet... but I barely have the time for all of my current projects.... Parts plus 25% for anyone who has far too much time on their hands. :yup:

96Fleetwood
12-11-07, 04:46 PM
I have been looking for a WB4 Roadmaster wagon for some time, can't find the right one just yet.

hueterm
12-11-07, 10:53 PM
I wish my RM would have been the LT1 instead of the reg. 350. I'd still like to compare one to the N*.

Black Sunshine
12-13-07, 01:22 AM
Wow. Lots of misinformation and a lil good stuff.

I will always own my Impala SS, Black Sunshine. She's a monster in business clothes. Not to mention most folks get the hell out of the way (damn left hand bandits!) when they look in the rear view and see me coming.

Great sources of info:
http://www.impalasuperstore.com/naisso/home/
The only surviving dedicated Impala SS store plus a very neighborly forum.
http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/
Much more active but be careful for the sharks on this forum. They show no mercy.

Pushing the limits? How bout these guys?
http://www.badongo.com/vid/547652 (http://www.badongo.com/vid/547652)
http://www.badongo.com/vid/547656 (http://www.badongo.com/vid/547656)

Lots of Impala clubs all over and an absolutely great family of gearheads, stereo bangers and car show fanatics. Local meets. Regional meets. Even a national meet.

A couple shots of our DeepSouthSS Club.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/boilrmkr/DeepSouthSS/MoultrieSpring051.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/boilrmkr/DeepSouthSS/MoultrieSpring0514.jpg

And lastly, yes. If you drive an Impala SS sooner or later you will get profiled. I ride with several clubs and have been stopped on many occasions by cops on some imaginary pretext only to watch in total delight the disappointment come across cops' faces when they look in the window expecting to see some young gang banger and they find lil ol' grey haired white boy me.

96Fleetwood
12-13-07, 08:56 AM
Here is a cool shot of my Fleetwood in the midst of Impalas... don't get me wrong, I love the Impala, but why conform when you can dare to be different... I consider my Fleetwood a "Corvette in a Tuxedo."

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Image449.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture034.jpg

And a pic when I had a white '96 to go along with my Black Beauty ;)

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture023.jpg

caddy uptown
12-14-07, 11:43 AM
had a 96 once..
wasted tons of cash buying custom parts from streettrends.com
It made the value insane high.

Night Wolf
12-14-07, 12:35 PM
My uncle had a '96 Impala SS.

He was kinda rough on it at times, not beating on it, but just let it become an "old car" It had 130k or something on it and he said it ran out of coolant, cause it started smoking (temp gauge didn't go up tho) so he pulled into a gas station and got antifreeze, put it in and went to start it and it woudln't even turn over... towed it to the mechanic and said it seized up.... He ended up selling it for like $1,800 with blown engine.... at the time my Coupe was just stolen and I worked at Advance Auto (20% off everything, including reman engines) had I known he was selling it, I woulda picked it up.

At the same time his daily driver was a early 90's Caprice wagon.... that thing was shot to all heck and back so to replace it is a mid 90's Caprice wagon, lol... my aunt gets all the fast and new cars.

Personally I was never a fan of them, they were cool, but the lack of quality throughtout and stuff... never appealed to me, I'd choose a Fleetwood over one any day.... but even they have quite a few flaws IMO. As for the Caprice/SS I respect them for what they were, are, and represent..... but I would never want to own one other then that, unless it was an instance like I stated above.

Black Sunshine
12-14-07, 08:37 PM
Gotta love those B-Body wagons....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/boilrmkr/Junk/MVC578F.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/boilrmkr/Car%20Shows/SS%20Nats%2007/ISSCA2007Small162.jpg

Destroyer
12-14-07, 10:16 PM
Gotta love those B-Body wagons....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/boilrmkr/Junk/MVC578F.jpg

What B-body wagon?

N0DIH
12-16-07, 01:27 AM
A few weeks ago I ran Silverado SS pickup from 0-105 mph, uphill. Dead even. The Impy might be a tad faster as I have Impy gearing right now, but with my stock gearing I would be faster.

Go fast parts are cheaper, tuning is readily available, handling goodies are readily available. Overall a blast of a car to drive. And not wrong wheel drive..... Nothing like doing burnouts with a big Caddy or Impala....

$ for $, you get a lot more car with the B/D body cars and even things like repairs are much cheaper and easier to do. Northstars are just plain $$$ to work on and you are always worrying about head gasket failures, which are very very rare on a LT1....

Black Sunshine
12-16-07, 09:57 AM
Almost forgot about this one. Only three ever built.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/boilrmkr/Travel/HerdFest09_11_0490sml.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/boilrmkr/Travel/HerdFest09_11_0489.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/boilrmkr/Travel/HerdFest09_11_0495sml.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/boilrmkr/Travel/HerdFest09_11_0493sml.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/boilrmkr/Travel/HerdFest09_11_0494sml.jpg