I know most of you dislike lowriders but this is what some of us go through to build a clean lowrider.
Here is where it started.
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First extended skirts.
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Then new E&G grille and continental kit
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Then added a nice built in sub box port through with a kenwood double din tv dvd played
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Disassembly for paint, and frame removal.
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New custom built Zenith wheels.
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Here is the frame getting pulled. How many of you guys have done this?
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Thats it for now, frame is sandblasted and about to start giving it a full wrap. More pics to come.

Wow... You make it look so Easy....

I love how it looks so far, especially the trunk and skirts. Keeping it black, or what?

Wow... You make it look so Easy....I wish it was, it helps having friends with the right tools.

I love how it looks so far, especially the trunk and skirts. Keeping it black, or what?It is staying black for the most part, im removing the top which is alot of work I have to replace the backglass with one made without a top and add the trim quarter and the roof. It will have some subtle patterns on the roof and some gold and silver leaf on the body.

Wow, thats alot of work... cool to see frame off work on a Caddy... on the 4x4 sites its fairly common to see it, but not so much with the Caddy's, or Lincolns.

I like lowriders that are tastefully done with mods to accent the origanal car, not make it look like something with as much aftermarket stuff as possible.... sounds like your car will turn out nice tho :)

It will have some subtle patterns on the roof and some gold and silver leaf on the body.

A smooth, clean, and ALL black lowrider...how about that;)

Work looks great, and thorough, but just had to add that in when I read "patterns" and gold/silver leaf...we shall see.

Regardless, I'm impressed by the work, and can't wait to see further progress.

Looks good. What's entailed in the body off frame removal?

Looks good. What's entailed in the body off frame removal?The frame is sandblasted and will be reinforced on all 4 sides in mainly 1/4 inch steel and a little 3/8, and then it will be ground smooth and painted. Here is my freinds frame for his regal it was flaked and candied, mine will be black with some subtle silver and chacoal patterns.
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That's so f#ckin nice. I'd like to detail and reinforce my frames just for the hell of it. What does it usually cost to do the frame restoration?

Okay, so I don't like lowriders, HOWEVER, I have to bow and scrape to the absolutely fine, thoughtful work you are doing.
Nothing slapdash nor quick and dirty. Everything done beautifully.
Thanks for sharing.
You're putting most of us to shame!:thumbsup:

That's so f#ckin nice. I'd like to detail and reinforce my frames just for the hell of it. What does it usually cost to do the frame restoration?Just a basic wrap is about, 2,500 to 3,000 that does not include smoothing and painting.

Nice!! Wish I had the time & money to do that for my Fleetwood. The closest I got was POR15ing the entire frame..:bonkers:

Okay, so I don't like lowriders, HOWEVER, I have to bow and scrape to the absolutely fine, thoughtful work you are doing.
Nothing slapdash nor quick and dirty. Everything done beautifully.
Thanks for sharing.
You're putting most of us to shame!:thumbsup:Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. I like getting compliments from people who dont usualy like lowriders, I figure if I show what goes on with building a lowrider the right way it would be a more respected sport.

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. I like getting compliments from people who dont usualy like lowriders, I figure if I show what goes on with building a lowrider the right way it would be a more respected sport.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm not big on lowriders either, but I have to admit, that's one way to preserve a car forever. After all...Nobody is ever gonna junk a car with a $3,000 paintjob on the frame.

Wow really figured there would be more feedback :hmm:

I think we're waiting for the plumbing, the motor and photos of some of the rest of the goodies you're planning to dig into.
And don't forget a running tally of the $$ you're shoveling into that project, either as you show what it costs to do the job right (like you did the frame).

I just want to see it too...ALL clean, mean black that is, with no extra graphics or foiling:thumbsup:

Sorry it will be getting patterns and silver leaf all black would be nice but anybody can do that, it will be way more of a custom job with the few extras ill be adding.:)

Sorry it will be getting patterns and silver leaf all black would be nice but anybody can do that, it will be way more of a custom job with the few extras ill be adding.:)

Understandable. We'll just have to wait and see how the effects turn out--hopefully not to the typical lowrider extreme of just one thing after another, "because".

Any projected idea of when the whole thing might be completed?

That looks pretty nice actually. Just don't paint it some loud ass color.......

Understandable. We'll just have to wait and see how the effects turn out--hopefully not to the typical lowrider extreme of just one thing after another, "because".

Any projected idea of when the whole thing might be completed?Hoping to have it done buy spring, but you know how that goes.

Cool, how did you hoist the body around? Also, since you have your chrome rocker panels off would it be possible for you to take a good close picture of one or two of them (if they are all the same)? A couple of mine broke and I found a place that sells them but you kind of have to match them up by pictures and my Fleetwood is buried in storage right now... if you can help me I would appreciate that!

Cool, how did you hoist the body around? Also, since you have your chrome rocker panels off would it be possible for you to take a good close picture of one or two of them (if they are all the same)? A couple of mine broke and I found a place that sells them but you kind of have to match them up by pictures and my Fleetwood is buried in storage right now... if you can help me I would appreciate that!My freind has a electric crane in his shop to move the body around on, he built a body dolly for it today, so I can roll it around my shop. What exactly do you need pics of?

My freind has a electric crane in his shop to move the body around on, he built a body dolly for it today, so I can roll it around my shop. What exactly do you need pics of?

I guess I didn't really specify heh.... I need pics of those clips that hold the chrome rocker panels on (long vertical strips along base of car) . I am not sure however if they are all the same, I think they are. Theres a company that makes them but they dont have them listed accurately to vehicles and there are a bunch that look very similar. Thanks!

BTW what is the estimated weight of the body?

looking good homie:thumbsup:been watching it on layitlow also:D

looking good homie:thumbsup:been watching it on layitlow also:DYa its been a boring winter here, I live on the internet when I cant drive my car.

i think its a waste of a really cool car and cutting into a cool optioned car to to make it go up and down and side to side is not cool, but hey my flavor is stock with some go fast parts. Dont mind the idea of a boxed frame (to make the car stiffer for cornering) . Personally i would rather see my car scrapped out then made into a lowrider but hey its your car do with what you want.

Thanks for the pics and narrative. Keep us posted. Care to give an idea of where you are located what the costs are?

i think its a waste of a really cool car and cutting into a cool optioned car to to make it go up and down and side to side is not cool, but hey my flavor is stock with some go fast parts. Dont mind the idea of a boxed frame (to make the car stiffer for cornering) . Personally i would rather see my car scrapped out then made into a lowrider but hey its your car do with what you want.Ya its totally ruined, why make a caddy into a show car, I guess the dirty rusty undercarraige is way better than a painted and detailed one, and I should have just left the engine that it has with a bad valve in it, instead of replacing it with a new one with headwork, cam, and intake. Remove your head from your anus please.

Thanks for the pics and narrative. Keep us posted. Care to give an idea of where you are located what the costs are?No prob, I live in Spokane Washington, im trying to keep the cost around 20,000, but that may get tuff.

I'm not big on lowriders either but I am very impressed with your workmanship. I'll be following the progress and looking forward to the finished work of art. Peace.

I'm not big on lowriders either but I am very impressed with your workmanship. I'll be following the progress and looking forward to the finished work of art. Peace.Thanks I really appreciate it, I will be adding more pics soon.

Just got the body back to my house on the dolly, ready to start some real work.
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Ya its totally ruined, why make a caddy into a show car, I guess the dirty rusty undercarraige is way better than a painted and detailed one, and I should have just left the engine that it has with a bad valve in it, instead of replacing it with a new one with headwork, cam, and intake. Remove your head from your anus please.

Wow a but touchy aren't we. I think its a waste because hey lets take a really nice car that has some class and add 50 batteries in the trunk, some "pumps", hack about a thousand holes in the car, a radio that you can hear a mile away because you think its cool for everyone to hear the music that you are playing (its not by the way), add a bass boat paint job, and some 13' wheels that will make the car rev out at 5,000 rpms going 70 mph, just to make it go up and down, side to side and three wheel motion or what ever you all call it.
I just look at these cars like ricer imports, shaking my head rolling my eyes and think of the wasted money. I never said anything about detailing a undercarrage, but when its all chrome and flake painted thats just a waste. I really dont care on how much work or money you put into this car, its your car and money do with what you will. It was my idea. So actually you should pull your head out of your ass and get the idea that people will not agree with your views all the time and life will be easier on you.

By the way i have seen alot of really nice cars wrecked in the name your "sport"
I have seen a really cool 87 regal t type turbo car hacked into a hydro car
a bunch of really nice monte carlos and a ton of caddys. They all have been parted out because of broken frames and have been beat into the ground in the name of your "sport" Really nice sport to wreck a car same thing derby people but they have alot less money into their cars. :usflag:

Wow a but touchy aren't we. I think its a waste because hey lets take a really nice car that has some class and add 50 batteries in the trunk, some "pumps", hack about a thousand holes in the car, a radio that you can hear a mile away because you think its cool for everyone to hear the music that you are playing (its not by the way), add a bass boat paint job, and some 13' wheels that will make the car rev out at 5,000 rpms going 70 mph, just to make it go up and down, side to side and three wheel motion or what ever you all call it.
I just look at these cars like ricer imports, shaking my head rolling my eyes and think of the wasted money. I never said anything about detailing a undercarrage, but when its all chrome and flake painted thats just a waste. I really dont care on how much work or money you put into this car, its your car and money do with what you will. It was my idea. So actually you should pull your head out of your ass and get the idea that people will not agree with your views all the time and life will be easier on you.Im glad it bothers you I love the hate, go worry about how to disable your traction control while the bigboys build real shit. Unlike you I respect any actual car builder no matter if its my style or not, im here cause I love caddys im on my 7th how about you neewbie?

By the way i have seen alot of really nice cars wrecked in the name your "sport"
I have seen a really cool 87 regal t type turbo car hacked into a hydro car
a bunch of really nice monte carlos and a ton of caddys. They all have been parted out because of broken frames and have been beat into the ground in the name of your "sport" Really nice sport to wreck a car same thing derby people but they have alot less money into their cars. :usflag:Wah cry me a river, just like any sport that involves cars there are shitty ones, shitty hot rods, imports, sport trucks, and then there are the ones built right. Im sorry your so butthurt about it.

Hey crybaby heres my old fleetwood, It was a one owner and totally stock when I got it and very nice, 3 pumps 10 batts, I owned this car for 6 years, I put over 60,000 miles on it with the hydraulics, only thing I ever did to it was replace the water pump, I sold it with 200,000 miles on it for 15,000 bux it had no problems with it.
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Im glad it bothers you I love the hate, go worry about how to disable your traction control while the bigboys build real shit. Unlike you I respect any actual car builder no matter if its my style or not, im here cause I love caddys im on my 7th how about you neewbie?

hey im not bothered by what you do and how you spend your money. i frankly dont care what you do and there is more to life then to worry about someone hacking into a caddy. i just voiced my idea's and you dont like them thats cool, dont care. I respect everyone even though i dont agree with them. I just figured everyone here posts about messed up caddys that are on ebay or craigslist and how big of a crime it is to hack into a caddy and post what everyone here was thinking. My fleetwood is my daily driver and i love that car, but my passion is mopars and have restored two cars and did all the work my self. So sorry to be "hating" and wish the best to the "bigboys" and sorry to get you all riled up so late at night.

By the way here is one of my cars as i found it

found like this and made into this

Hey crybaby heres my old fleetwood, It was a one owner and totally stock when I got it and very nice, 3 pumps 10 batts, I owned this car for 6 years, I put over 60,000 miles on it with the hydraulics, only thing I ever did to it was replace the water pump, I sold it with 200,000 miles on it for 15,000 bux it had no problems with it.
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kinda reminds me of this

found like this and made into thisWow thats an ugly ass car.

kinda reminds me of thisTry again that color has no flake in it dumbass, just pearls and metalics.

Wow thats an ugly ass car.

That fine I MADE $12,000 off that one including the cost of everything.

Wow thats an ugly ass car.

Like the color or not, he will be getting all the money he dumped into it back and then some.

Thats ok now i am tired of responding with you. You seem not to be able to take someones idea's that differ from yours. I dont care that you called my superbee ulgy alot of people did, but that car is down the road and it helped put the downpayment on the house i live in.If you actually read through all the posts i made I said these were MY views if you have a problem with other people having different views then yours there is this little country called China that dont like people expressing their views might be time looking into that country. One thing may i suggest is to talk in a good manor and not personally attack people by having a fifth grader mentalility by calling people "butthead" and other stuff. So next time you talk about being a "bigboy" take off the diaper when you make that speech. Have a great day and wish you well with all your projects

Wow thats an ugly ass car.

:cookoo:

The funny thing is that you spend way, way more on hacking your Caddys all to hell than he did in properly restoring that gorgeous Mopar.

Thats ok now i am tired of responding with you. You seem not to be able to take someones idea's that differ from yours. I dont care that you called my superbee ulgy alot of people did, but that car is down the road and it helped put the downpayment on the house i live in.If you actually read through all the posts i made I said these were MY views if you have a problem with other people having different views then yours there is this little country called China that dont like people expressing their views might be time looking into that country. One thing may i suggest is to talk in a good manor and not personally attack people by having a fifth grader mentalility by calling people "butthead" and other stuff. So next time you talk about being a "bigboy" take off the diaper when you make that speech. Have a great day and wish you well with all your projectsYour opinion is worthless to me, I have been building lowriders for over 15 years you think your going to tell me something I dont know, just cause you think you know everthing dosent mean you do, and your the one that was talking shit first *******, dont come on my post and talk down to me if you dont like my car cool dont care, but you are getting personal.

Like the color or not, he will be getting all the money he dumped into it back and then some.Ya and so what I dont build cars for investments, that why I invest in the stockmarket.

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The funny thing is that you spend way, way more on hacking your Caddys all to hell than he did in properly restoring that gorgeous Mopar.:helpless:

Anyways back to the topic at hand, im trying to decide what kind of patterns I would like to lay out on the roof. How about some suggestions?
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The colors I will be using on my car will be mostly silvers grays and charcoal patterns.

Flamebait?

Flamebait?Anything else smartass.

Put in a little work last night, to cold only 20 degrees outside, going to get a new heater this weekend so its a little warmer. Anyways started stripping the foam off, and pulled the rear window trim off.
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Maybe you could try a shade of white. You never see too many pearly lowriders; it'd almost be a normal color, but hey... or ocean blue. There was of those on the boards earlier and it looked okay. Maybe try a color less darkening and foreshadowing like the hot red and oranges or the black and green abyss-type colors. I like white, so nothing candy-ish, though. And maybe it could be a little more plain (less lines and patterns) as to bring attention to the contours of the car, unlike heavily-animated cars which seem to distract from the car itself. Give it a try; you'll look like a cloud floating around which is what those rides feel like anyway.

Maybe you could try a shade of white. You never see too many pearly lowriders; it'd almost be a normal color, but hey... or ocean blue. There was of those on the boards earlier and it looked okay. Maybe try a color less darkening and foreshadowing like the hot red and oranges or the black and green abyss-type colors. I like white, so nothing candy-ish, though. And maybe it could be a little more plain (less lines and patterns) as to bring attention to the contours of the car, unlike heavily-animated cars which seem to distract from the car itself. Give it a try; you'll look like a cloud floating around which is what those rides feel like anyway.Thanks for the input I appreciate it, its pretty much going to be black for the most part, mainly just trying to figure out what style of patterns I want to get.

How's about a tartan? ...lol... then you'd be a lowrider with scottish pride!

How's about a tartan? ...lol... then you'd be a lowrider with scottish pride!Not really sure what tartan is.:hmm:

One other thing, may I ask the significance of the continental kit? I mean, it doesn't really hold a tire. The "real" ones seemed to be popular up until the 50's, then they died out, but made a come-back in the 3rd-party world as a cosmetic feature. Personally, I think is sticks out a bit much. Sorta not period correct, ya know? However, what I would find neat would be dual-front contis, like the old "paris edition" Eldorados. They wouldn't be to hard to fabricate either; just set them on the fenders!

Oh, and a tartan is basically the family/clan design of kilts. Here's one:

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And I was joking. Who's gonna make a pachyderm lowrider?

One other thing, may I ask the significance of the continental kit? I mean, it doesn't really hold a tire. The "real" ones seemed to be popular up until the 50's, then they died out, but made a come-back in the 3rd-party world as a cosmetic feature. Personally, I think is sticks out a bit much. Sorta not period correct, ya know? However, what I would find neat would be dual-front contis, like the old "paris edition" Eldorados. They wouldn't be to hard to fabricate either; just set them on the fenders!Ya they are only for looks, I like to make the wheel fit in the kit to match the rest of the wheels on the car.

Oh, and a tartan is basically the family/clan design of kilts. Here's one:

http://www.ordotempli.org/OSMTH_Hunting_Tartan_small.gif

And I was joking. Who's gonna make a pachyderm lowrider?Ya thats what I was thinking it looked like.

what a deuche :suspense:
Thats ok now i am tired of responding with you. You seem not to be able to take someones idea's that differ from yours. I dont care that you called my superbee ulgy alot of people did, but that car is down the road and it helped put the downpayment on the house i live in.If you actually read through all the posts i made I said these were MY views if you have a problem with other people having different views then yours there is this little country called China that dont like people expressing their views might be time looking into that country. One thing may i suggest is to talk in a good manor and not personally attack people by having a fifth grader mentalility by calling people "butthead" and other stuff. So next time you talk about being a "bigboy" take off the diaper when you make that speech. Have a great day and wish you well with all your projects

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what a deuche :suspense:


:suspense:Agreed, he comes to my topic and says he would rather see my car in a junkyard and thats not supposed to offend me.

some people would never understand this lifestyle

some people would never understand this lifestyleWhich is fine with me, they just dont need to bad mouth.

fuk it theres always gonna be haters

some people would never understand this lifestyle

Just as some people wouldn't add another brush stroke to one of Michelangelo's masterpieces or another note to Mozart's Molto allegro... we feel just the same about Cadillacs. Thats where we come from, where do you come from?

what are you talking about where i come from?

Just as some people wouldn't add another brush stroke to one of Michelangelo's masterpieces or another note to Mozart's Molto allegro... we feel just the same about Cadillacs. Thats where we come from, where do you come from?:drink2::drink2:

what are you talking about where i come from?


shit i come from the westcoast way of living, paper stacks,big racks,and cadillacs:D AND IM TALKIN BOUT THESE TYPES OF LLACS HOMEBOY:thumbsup:
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Somebody shoot those poor mares and put them out of their misery.

saved94fleetwood is entitled to his opinion as everyone else is entitled to theirs. I thought I was going to have to come into this discussion and squelch out the low-rider haters but it looks like times are changing and low-riders are getting more respect these days. I'm glad to see that. So now that the tides are turning and you get one guy who doesn't like it, i ask for the same respect of opinions going the other way around.

saved94fleetwood didn't storm in with the usual name-calling and 5 year old mentality that we're used to seeing. He didn't specifically have anything 'nice' to say - but that's going to happen. He didn't have to be jumped-on for this opinion.

509Rider. Be happy that most people are 'with' you, respect your work (including me) and treat people who don't share your same vision with respect - because we're all entitled to our opinions - and that will earn you even more respect back...

saved94fleetwood is entitled to his opinion as everyone else is entitled to theirs. I thought I was going to have to come into this discussion and squelch out the low-rider haters but it looks like times are changing and low-riders are getting more respect these days. I'm glad to see that. So now that the tides are turning and you get one guy who doesn't like it, i ask for the same respect of opinions going the other way around.

saved94fleetwood didn't storm in with the usual name-calling and 5 year old mentality that we're used to seeing. He didn't specifically have anything 'nice' to say - but that's going to happen. He didn't have to be jumped-on for this opinion.

509Rider. Be happy that most people are 'with' you, respect your work (including me) and treat people who don't share your same vision with respect - because we're all entitled to our opinions - and that will earn you even more respect back...I understand its a open forum, and i understand most people dont understand lowriders, and thats fine but what saved94fleet was pretty disrespectful first saying he would rather see it in a junk yard. I am almost 30 years old I know what im doing im not some punk kid I own my house and all my cars. Just like any normal person. Thanks for coming through my topic Sal you know this has always been the same stuff on here as I have been a member for a long time. I just posted my build for those to enjoy. Cause im a true caddy lover just in a differant way.

Somebody shoot those poor mares and put them out of their misery.Thanks for the ignorant feedback sir.:)

i think its a waste of a really cool car and cutting into a cool optioned car to to make it go up and down and side to side is not cool, but hey my flavor is stock with some go fast parts. Dont mind the idea of a boxed frame (to make the car stiffer for cornering) . Personally i would rather see my car scrapped out then made into a lowrider but hey its your car do with what you want.

Ok i have been quiet enough. Lets get this right, I said i would rather see MY car scrapped out then made into a lowrider. My means my car, the one that i legally own, the one that my name is on the title, the one that i hold the keys too. If you also read my posts i said repeatly said "its your car and money and you can do what you want" and "its your car do what ever you want" . Just read my post you will see so there

Ok i have been quiet enough. Lets get this right, I said i would rather see MY car scrapped out then made into a lowrider. My means my car, the one that i legally own, the one that my name is on the title, the one that i hold the keys too. If you also read my posts i said repeatly said "its your car and money and you can do what you want" and "its your car do what ever you want" . Just read my post you will see so thereThats wonderful.

what are you talking about where i come from?

Am I not clear, do you not understand my references? I want to know where you come from in justifying your modification of Cadillacs, it was a straight-forward question, don't make me answer the question for you, even though I really want to.

Whats up with all the hostility on this thread? You guys should stop acting like 2 year olds and start acting like well respected Cadillac owners!

shit i come from the westcoast way of living, paper stacks,big racks,and cadillacs AND IM TALKIN BOUT THESE TYPES OF LLACS HOMEBOY

Ahhhh.... isn't westcoast living great??!? Its worth spending all of one's money into curb appeal, the satisfaction of catching someone's attention trump's all other joys of life... in fact it is the true essence of life...

Good thing those things aren't ****in rolling around my streets. And spare the ryhmy phrases they sound pretty stupid, you don't want people to think you are stupid simply by how you speak.

Whats up with all the hostility on this thread? You guys should stop acting like 2 year olds and start acting like well respected Cadillac owners!

Are you kidding me? People love this shit, everyone is always wondering what the next flame is gonna be. To be a respected Cadillac owner is to be an owner respective OF Cadillacs. These people do NOT respect their Cadillacs, they simply treat it as a canvas to do their own work, which they are entitled to. However we do not view them as respected Cadillac owners, they just don't fit the title.

Most of us are here to represent the Cadillac name and tradition. All credit goes to GM. I, personally, love to show and teach people what real AMERICAN product is, Cadillac fits this role perfectly. I am a proud American and owning a Cadillac was at one point the most American thing you could ever do, times have changed but people remember how iconic Cadillac was and today I readily inform people who may not have known or do not understand. With my Caddy's... my ego can wait I want people to see my Caddy barreling down the road like a Spanish Man of War sailing into port. Cadillac is a shining example of American engineering and manufacturing superiority. Having a Cadillac goes far beyond enjoying the cloud ride... its about representing American accomplishment.

The point is... by doing these modifications, people see the work done to the car, not what the car really is and what it is about. All the work I put into my car is so people see the true essence of it as opposed to shrouding it with custom art and modifications that completely transform the car into something else. Hell... i'm still debating as to whether I am going to keep the chrome exhaust tips I put on!

Are you kidding me? People love this shit, everyone is always wondering what the next flame is gonna be. To be a respected Cadillac owner is to be an owner respective OF Cadillacs. These people do NOT respect their Cadillacs, they simply treat it as a canvas to do their own work, which they are entitled to. However we do not view them as respected Cadillac owners, they just don't fit the title.

Most of us are here to represent the Cadillac name and tradition. All credit goes to GM. I, personally, love to show and teach people what real AMERICAN product is, Cadillac fits this role perfectly. I am a proud American and owning a Cadillac was at one point the most American thing you could ever do, times have changed but people remember how iconic Cadillac was and today I readily inform people who may not have known or do not understand. With my Caddy's... my ego can wait I want people to see my Caddy barreling down the road like a Spanish Man of War sailing into port. Cadillac is a shining example of American engineering and manufacturing superiority. Having a Cadillac goes far beyond enjoying the cloud ride... its about representing American accomplishment.

The point is... by doing these modifications, people see the work done to the car, not what the car really is and what it is about. All the work I put into my car is so people see the true essence of it as opposed to shrouding it with custom art and modifications that completely transform the car into something else. Hell... i'm still debating as to whether I am going to keep the chrome exhaust tips I put on!

I honestly hate lowriders, I agree that it is a complete defilement of proud American muscle. But to get pissed off at someone for not answering a pretty irrelevant question is ridiculous. It's one thing to stand up for the type of car you believe in - it's another thing to act like a complete *******.

I honestly hate lowriders, I agree that it is a complete defilement of proud American muscle. But to get pissed off at someone for not answering a pretty irrelevant question is ridiculous. It's one thing to stand up for the type of car you believe in - it's another thing to act like a complete *******.

Fair enough... I OFFICIALLY RETRACT THAT QUESTION, it was stupid but it WAS NOT irrelevant.

It's easy to get fired up over this. Seeing FWB coupes and V4P LT1s devolving into rolling abortions right before one's eyes ... it's horrible.

Are you kidding me? People love this shit, everyone is always wondering what the next flame is gonna be. To be a respected Cadillac owner is to be an owner respective OF Cadillacs. These people do NOT respect their Cadillacs, they simply treat it as a canvas to do their own work, which they are entitled to. However we do not view them as respected Cadillac owners, they just don't fit the title.

Most of us are here to represent the Cadillac name and tradition. All credit goes to GM. I, personally, love to show and teach people what real AMERICAN product is, Cadillac fits this role perfectly. I am a proud American and owning a Cadillac was at one point the most American thing you could ever do, times have changed but people remember how iconic Cadillac was and today I readily inform people who may not have known or do not understand. With my Caddy's... my ego can wait I want people to see my Caddy barreling down the road like a Spanish Man of War sailing into port. Cadillac is a shining example of American engineering and manufacturing superiority. Having a Cadillac goes far beyond enjoying the cloud ride... its about representing American accomplishment.

The point is... by doing these modifications, people see the work done to the car, not what the car really is and what it is about. All the work I put into my car is so people see the true essence of it as opposed to shrouding it with custom art and modifications that completely transform the car into something else. Hell... i'm still debating as to whether I am going to keep the chrome exhaust tips I put on!You dont know anything about me, so dont judge, just cause you dont like dosent mean shit to me so go cry somewhere else.

It's easy to get fired up over this. Seeing FWB coupes and V4P LT1s devolving into rolling abortions right before one's eyes ... it's horrible.Im trying to be somewhat nice but you sir can go **** yourself, your mom should have had an abortion.

Keep it on layitlow if you can't stand the criticism. This is a forum, you know.

Keep it on layitlow if you can't stand the criticism. This is a forum, you know.You have made your point and guess what I dont care so go somewhere else cause you are just wasting space, I posted my build for people that have an open mind, not closed minded *******s.

He's right, I respect a man who makes his own decision in respect to his car. I see it as a way of more efficiently restoring a car that would have ended up going to the junkyard, and he's doing it the right way. Also, I'm not a big fan of '95 Fleet's :D.

He's right, I respect a man who makes his own decision in respect to his car. I see it as a way of more efficiently restoring a car that would have ended up going to the junkyard, and he's doing it the right way. Also, I'm not a big fan of '95 Fleet's :D.Thanks :)

AND this thread was to talk about the car not talk about our general opinions. So what progress have you made? I can't remember the last time you talked about the car and I'm too tired to go searching through the 10 pages of posts.

AND this thread was to talk about the car not talk about our general opinions. So what progress have you made? I can't remember the last time you talked about the car and I'm too tired to go searching through the 10 pages of posts.I should have some updates next week my frame just got some work done on it and my continental kit just got painted and patterned out.

Are you kidding me? People love this shit, everyone is always wondering what the next flame is gonna be. To be a respected Cadillac owner is to be an owner respective OF Cadillacs. These people do NOT respect their Cadillacs, they simply treat it as a canvas to do their own work, which they are entitled to. However we do not view them as respected Cadillac owners, they just don't fit the title.

Most of us are here to represent the Cadillac name and tradition. All credit goes to GM. I, personally, love to show and teach people what real AMERICAN product is, Cadillac fits this role perfectly. I am a proud American and owning a Cadillac was at one point the most American thing you could ever do, times have changed but people remember how iconic Cadillac was and today I readily inform people who may not have known or do not understand. With my Caddy's... my ego can wait I want people to see my Caddy barreling down the road like a Spanish Man of War sailing into port. Cadillac is a shining example of American engineering and manufacturing superiority. Having a Cadillac goes far beyond enjoying the cloud ride... its about representing American accomplishment.

The point is... by doing these modifications, people see the work done to the car, not what the car really is and what it is about. All the work I put into my car is so people see the true essence of it as opposed to shrouding it with custom art and modifications that completely transform the car into something else. Hell... i'm still debating as to whether I am going to keep the chrome exhaust tips I put on!

:thehand:SO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT THE BUILDER OF THIS CAR WASNT CONSIDERED AS A RESPECTED CADILLAC OWNER? DUDE YOUR ****ING DUMB AND IGNORANT:rant2:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/96BIG_BODY/homiesedition.jpg

That's just sad. Someone goes to the expense to fabricate a beautiful, factory-look mid-'90s FWB coupe, then pisses all over it with hydraulics, lawnmower wheels, a goofball grille, cartoons on the decklid and non-correct lights and badging scattered haphazardly across the body.

Like most lowriders, there's a great idea in there. It's just buried in all the trappings of the genre.

That's just sad. Someone goes to the expense to fabricate a beautiful, factory-look mid-'90s FWB coupe, then pisses all over it with hydraulics, lawnmower wheels, a goofball grille, cartoons on the decklid and non-correct lights and badging scattered haphazardly across the body.

Like most lowriders, there's a great idea in there. It's just buried in all the trappings of the genre.

+1

I bet you it was two different owners responsible for that... If the suspension were stock and that ugly grill was off that would be a dream car.

That's just sad. Someone goes to the expense to fabricate a beautiful, factory-look mid-'90s FWB coupe, then pisses all over it with hydraulics, lawnmower wheels, a goofball grille, cartoons on the decklid and non-correct lights and badging scattered haphazardly across the body.

Like most lowriders, there's a great idea in there. It's just buried in all the trappings of the genre.:crying: Keep going.

+1

I bet you it was two different owners responsible for that... If the suspension were stock and that ugly grill was off that would be a dream car.Nope same owner, built buy one of the top chevy retoration shops in the world. Bowtie Connection.

That's just sad. Someone goes to the expense to fabricate a beautiful, factory-look mid-'90s FWB coupe, then pisses all over it with hydraulics, lawnmower wheels, a goofball grille, cartoons on the decklid and non-correct lights and badging scattered haphazardly across the body.

Like most lowriders, there's a great idea in there. It's just buried in all the trappings of the genre.


+1

I bet you it was two different owners responsible for that... If the suspension were stock and that ugly grill was off that would be a dream car.

YOU GUYS ARE ****ING CLOWNS:mad2: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS BUILD HALF OF THE SHIT THAT THAT MANS BUILT, US IN THIS LOWRIDER STYLE WERE THE FIRST ONES TO COME OUT WITH THE FIRST EVER 2DR 93-96FLEETWOOD HARDTOP AND VERT, AND 90D OUT 80S COUPES THAT EVERYONE LIKES:D YOU GUYS NEED TO SHOW RESPECT WERE ITS DUE I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, YOU PANSIES WILL NEVER CATCH UP TO OUR LEVEL:thumbsup:

YOU GUYS ARE ****ING CLOWNS:mad2: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS BUILD HALF OF THE SHIT THAT THAT MANS BUILT, US IN THIS LOWRIDER STYLE WERE THE FIRST ONES TO COME OUT WITH THE FIRST EVER 2DR 93-96FLEETWOOD HARDTOP AND VERT, AND 90D OUT 80S COUPES THAT EVERYONE LIKES:D YOU GUYS NEED TO SHOW RESPECT WERE ITS DUE I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, YOU PANSIES WILL NEVER CATCH UP TO OUR LEVEL:thumbsup:

I don't like the convertible as much as that coupe. The coupe is genius and probably would have became a stock option if production wasn't ended so abruptly.

From there he just makes a hideous creation out of it. And since you credit yourself with the design of the coupe... US in the STOCK STYLE came up with the car in the first place so without OUR genius you would have nothing to work with, MY stock Fleetwood is a timeless classic, your bounce-mobile is nothing but a fad.

I don't like the convertible as much as that coupe. The coupe is genius and probably would have became a stock option if production wasn't ended so abruptly.

From there he just makes a hideous creation out of it. And since you credit yourself with the design of the coupe... US in the STOCK STYLE came up with the car in the first place so without OUR genius you would have nothing to work with, MY stock Fleetwood is a timeless classic, your bounce-mobile is nothing but a fad.

FIRST OF ALL I MEANT US AS IN THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE LOWRIDER COMMUNITY, AND THIS LOWRIDING SHIT AINT NO FAD, THIS SHIT STARTED WAY BACK IN THE 40S AND 50S AND IT WILL STAY STRONG INTO THE FUTURE, AND YOUR STOCK FLEETWOOD IS JUST A STOCK FLEETWOOD WHATS THE POINT OF THAT **** STOCK SHIT:thumbsup:

WHATS THE POINT OF THAT **** STOCK SHIT

We like stock, just like you like it modified. Please don't bash us folks who are trying to keeping everything factory accurate. We think of them as historical items whose authenticity is appreciated. I understand you have no interest in "oem fidelity," but please don't insult those of us who do; that kinda is what gives lowriders a bad rap on this forum, because of posts like the one above. C'mon, there's no stopping either of us, so lets just both be happy they're not in the bone yards. :)

Greg

We like stock, just like you like it modified. Please don't bash us folks who are trying to keeping everything factory accurate. We think of them as historical items whose authenticity is appreciated. I understand you have no interest in "oem fidelity," but please don't insult those of us who do; that kinda is what gives lowriders a bad rap on this forum, because of posts like the one above. C'mon, there's no stopping either of us, so lets just both be happy they're not in the bone yards. :)

Greg

I agree completely.

We like stock, just like you like it modified. Please don't bash us folks who are trying to keeping everything factory accurate. We think of them as historical items whose authenticity is appreciated. I understand you have no interest in "oem fidelity," but please don't insult those of us who do; that kinda is what gives lowriders a bad rap on this forum, because of posts like the one above. C'mon, there's no stopping either of us, so lets just both be happy they're not in the bone yards. :)

Greg

:2thumbs:i can dig

Glad we're happy. :2thumbs: Oh, and that '96 Fleet coupe is pretty nice. I do credit these conversions to the lowriding community. But I have to be curious, were there any rich folks with an '85 Fleet coupe who went to a dealer in 1990, and said "Make this car a 1990 at all costs!" I've seen a few "stock" look 90'd coupes, but do people ever do "stock" look '96 coupes? I've never seen one, but I guess something like that is too expensive to keep "normal." :rolleyes:

We like stock, just like you like it modified. Please don't bash us folks who are trying to keeping everything factory accurate. We think of them as historical items whose authenticity is appreciated. I understand you have no interest in "oem fidelity," but please don't insult those of us who do; that kinda is what gives lowriders a bad rap on this forum, because of posts like the one above. C'mon, there's no stopping either of us, so lets just both be happy they're not in the bone yards. :)

GregThats cool, I respect you cause you respect me.

I don't like the convertible as much as that coupe. The coupe is genius and probably would have became a stock option if production wasn't ended so abruptly.

From there he just makes a hideous creation out of it. And since you credit yourself with the design of the coupe... US in the STOCK STYLE came up with the car in the first place so without OUR genius you would have nothing to work with, MY stock Fleetwood is a timeless classic, your bounce-mobile is nothing but a fad.Get some knowledge on lowriding before you call it a fad, thats like calling hotrodding a fad, your credibility just went down the shitter.

Glad we're happy. :2thumbs: Oh, and that '96 Fleet coupe is pretty nice. I do credit these conversions to the lowriding community. But I have to be curious, were there any rich folks with an '85 Fleet coupe who went to a dealer in 1990, and said "Make this car a 1990 at all costs!" I've seen a few "stock" look 90'd coupes, but do people ever do "stock" look '96 coupes? I've never seen one, but I guess something like that is too expensive to keep "normal." :rolleyes:

were you asking as a question? i think you might be talking about these though.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/96BIG_BODY/2_dr_056.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/96BIG_BODY/1STOCK90dCOUPE.jpg
but im pretty sure these werent a special request from the dealer, just some other lowriders choppin them up and leaving them with stocks to try and sell it to the original caddy guys

Get some knowledge on lowriding before you call it a fad, thats like calling hotrodding a fad, your credibility just went down the shitter.

Well since hot-rodding has been around for over 70 years it has become a facet of the automotive community not to mention its pretty evenly distributed across the US. You west coasters are in your own little world and your bounce mobiles are extremely localized with outliers here and there. My credibility down the shitter.... WOW :histeric:

the original caddy guys

I'm glad you respect us too. I know a few folks and see my stock Caddy and get real mad that she ain't candy-painted and on 13's.

Yeah I was asking a question, and those are some nice Cads! :thumbsup: I wish like all get-out that they made a factory coupe. Now we have to go out and spend and chop and spend and chop...lol

That's what I plan to do with my Brougham. Complete frame off restoration. Gotta get my money right. It looks clean though...:)

Well since hot-rodding has been around for over 70 years it has become a facet of the automotive community not to mention its pretty evenly distributed across the US. You west coasters are in your own little world and your bounce mobiles are extremely localized with outliers here and there. My credibility down the shitter.... WOW :histeric:


West Coast damn my club has chapters all over the Midwest and last time I looked in LRM I saw lows nationwide. So I must agree with your credibility but at least you have a 68 look at mine and go get all mad I cut it!!
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j58/lemin78/DSC01078.jpg

West Coast damn my club has chapters all over the Midwest and last time I looked in LRM I saw lows nationwide. So I must agree with your credibility but at least you have a 68 look at mine and go get all mad I cut it!!
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j58/lemin78/DSC01078.jpg

I really don't mind plain old lowriders as much as those hideous bounce mobiles with the little ass wheels and rock hard suspension, your '68 looks slick as hell in that picture, do you have any pics of a chopped and channeled '68?

Also is that a true sedan or a hardtop?

Now back to the issue at hand... lowriders and bounce-mobiles don't even come close to the number of "hot-rods" out there... those stupid bounce-mobiles and flashy lowriders are the perfect way to pump money into a car never to see it again and thats why they do terribly on eBay because either no one wants them (which again proves this genre is not as popular as you think) or people realize that the amount of money you put in is not worth the output. And whether you care about getting your money back or not... it doesn't matter its just proof of your un-popularity. Sorry to crush all of your fat egos.

Theres other ways to get people to "respect" you and to pick up chicks than bouncing down the road.

Well since hot-rodding has been around for over 70 years it has become a facet of the automotive community not to mention its pretty evenly distributed across the US. You west coasters are in your own little world and your bounce mobiles are extremely localized with outliers here and there. My credibility down the shitter.... WOW :histeric:Once again do some research lowriding is worldwide. as big as hotrodding no and im glad its not. Quit putting your useless info in my topic.

Anyways back to the topic, here is an update of the continental kit, not done but its getting there.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/509rider/Picture046-1.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/509rider/Picture045.jpg

I like the mixed colors... a bit too flashy for me though. Still, it looks like you did a good job on it :2thumbs:

Once again do some research lowriding is worldwide. as big as hotrodding no and im glad its not. Quit putting your useless info in my topic.

Ill keep flooding your topic and detracting attention as long as you keep responding to me. It is all very legal what I am doing, you say something in your topic to me or to another person and I simply reply, which means that technically everything is still on topic. So please, I encourage either you or chico to provide rebut... I LOVE DISCUSSION!

Also well done on the paint job, while I don't encourage the product that looks like quality work.

JTraik... chill out.

Ill keep flooding your topic and detracting attention as long as you keep responding to me. It is all very legal what I am doing, you say something in your topic to me or to another person and I simply reply, which means that technically everything is still on topic. So please, I encourage either you or chico to provide rebut... I LOVE DISCUSSION!

Also well done on the paint job, while I don't encourage the product that looks like quality work.Thats great but I will keep responding to you cause you will never punk me in my own topic especially about something you have no clue about. Keep going.

Thats great but I will keep responding to you cause you will never punk me in my own topic especially about something you have no clue about. Keep going.

Something I have no clue about? Any moron can do this stuff thats already been made perfectly clear. Even the stuff I do to my cars is simple as could be... try building the stuff I make...

http://www.minos-euro.net/wbm/wbm2/national_infrastructures/ecad_laboratory12.jpg

Something I have no clue about? Any moron can do this stuff thats already been made perfectly clear. Even the stuff I do to my cars is simple as could be... try building the stuff I make...

http://www.minos-euro.net/wbm/wbm2/national_infrastructures/ecad_laboratory12.jpgFact is you dont know shit about lowriding, so quit trying so hard to be cool, its not working dickhead.

Fact is you dont know shit about lowriding, so quit trying so hard to be cool, its not working dickhead.

Whats to know? You make it sound as if being in the lowriding "community" is like your in the free masons or something... guess what its not, again busting down your fat ego. Also theres more people out there thinking about keying your car than there is lining up to shake your hand.

You people have no secrets, what you do is not complex... except for some of the painting that you do.... just bolt the stuff on and start bouncing down the road and watch those "respect" points add up... YEEHAAA

Whats to know? You make it sound as if being in the lowriding "community" is like your in the free masons or something... guess what its not, again busting down your fat ego. Also theres more people out there thinking about keying your car than there is lining up to shake your hand.

You people have no secrets, what you do is not complex... except for some of the painting that you do.... just bolt the stuff on and start bouncing down the road and watch those "respect" points add up... YEEHAAANo ego here check yourself, I would love to see some jealous ***** try to key my car that would make my day, bolt on stuff your hilarious.:stirpot:

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I take that back, that D-body coupe took some work and ingenuity... What are you hiding, we want to see more than paintwork.

I take that back, that D-body coupe took some work and ingenuity... What are you hiding, we want to see more than paintwork.Hiding, what would you like to see Mr Knowitall?

:DI really don't mind plain old lowriders as much as those hideous bounce mobiles with the little ass wheels and rock hard suspension, your '68 looks slick as hell in that picture, do you have any pics of a chopped and channeled '68?

Also is that a true sedan or a hardtop?

Now back to the issue at hand... lowriders and bounce-mobiles don't even come close to the number of "hot-rods" out there... those stupid bounce-mobiles and flashy lowriders are the perfect way to pump money into a car never to see it again and thats why they do terribly on eBay because either no one wants them (which again proves this genre is not as popular as you think) or people realize that the amount of money you put in is not worth the output. And whether you care about getting your money back or not... it doesn't matter its just proof of your un-popularity. Sorry to crush all of your fat egos.

Theres other ways to get people to "respect" you and to pick up chicks than bouncing down the road.

IS LIKE THIS MAN, REAL RIDERS DONT DO THIS SHIT FOR THE ****ING FAME OR MONEY:thepan: WE DO THIS FOR THE LOVE OF IT,THERES SO MUCH MORE TO LOWRIDING THAN WHAT YOU THINK AND YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND. THERES UNITY,RESPECT, ITS A CULTURE ITS A WAY OF LIVING. SO WHY DONT YOU "BOUNCE" YOUR ASS OFF THIS TOPIC WITH ALL THAT EGO AND POPULARITY SHIT, WHO'S ****ING EGOS ARE YOU CRUSHING?. HEY 509 WE MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT THOUGH CUS WERE ALWAYS IN THIS MUDA****AS THOUGHTS:D THAT KITS LOOKING GOOD TOO BRO, WHO DID THAT

:D

IS LIKE THIS MAN, REAL RIDERS DONT DO THIS SHIT FOR THE ****ING FAME OR MONEY:thepan: WE DO THIS FOR THE LOVE OF IT,THERES SO MUCH MORE TO LOWRIDING THAN WHAT YOU THINK AND YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND. THERES UNITY,RESPECT, ITS A CULTURE ITS A WAY OF LIVING. SO WHY DONT YOU "BOUNCE" YOUR ASS OFF THIS TOPIC WITH ALL THAT EGO AND POPULARITY SHIT, WHO'S ****ING EGOS ARE YOU CRUSHING?. HEY 509 WE MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT THOUGH CUS WERE ALWAYS IN THIS MUDA****AS THOUGHTS:D THAT KITS LOOKING GOOD TOO BRO, WHO DID THATMy friend Josh at Kre-8 Airbrush he is amazing. Here is a little if his work.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/509rider/HPIM0347.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/509rider/HPIM0351.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/509rider/Picture027.jpg

how are his prices still?

how are his prices still?Not cheap

if you dont mind me asking but around how much is he charging you for doing the roof and the booty kit?

if you dont mind me asking but around how much is he charging you for doing the roof and the booty kit?Around 5,000

:cool:

I haven't cruised this thread until just now and Judas Priest am I surprised at the level of vitriol oozing all over the place.
Sure, Cadillacs deserve strong opinions. They're at the top of the food chain of American cars in my not so humble opinion, so why wouldn't they evoke strong emotions? But DAMN! I can't see pissing on some guy's love of a certain type of vehicle just because he or she doesn't see it fitting into one's preconceived notions of what a Cadillac should be.
Okay, I DO NOT particularly like low riders. NOT AT ALL.
HOWEVER
After cruising this thread, I'm absolutely Able Sugar over that mid-90s coupe I saw. I just wish it had the stock grille and wheels. But if the builder wanted to build it the way he did, MORE POWER TO HIM. The execution was fabulous. Somebody hold up the TEN sign.
As for me, my 1995 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham with the LT1 into which I had the Carolina Performance Transmissions Stage II 4L60E unit installed, is a FAST HIGHWAY CRUISER and not a "townie" with itsy-bitsy wheels.
But those with those low riders who have that spectacular artwork (those artists deserve one helluva lot of credit - that is true talent) have earned every bit of respect for the gut-wrenching work they have put in to take their vehicles to the level we see.
They sure as hell haven't simply been couch potatoes or parts swappers.
Good goin' guys. Not my cuppa' tea, but I sure like seeing your work.:D

It all started on page 8 in which I asked a sincere, and what I thought to be, simple question. In return I get stupidity from chico and 509rider. Very unfortunate...

It all started on page 8 in which I asked a sincere, and what I thought to be, simple question. In return I get stupidity from chico and 509rider. Very unfortunate...

I TAKE THAT YOUR REFFERING TO ME :histeric: GOOD ONE

LOL yessir... ANDALE! ANDALE! ARRIBA! Thats what I would say if my car was bouncing up and down.

I haven't cruised this thread until just now and Judas Priest am I surprised at the level of vitriol oozing all over the place.
Sure, Cadillacs deserve strong opinions. They're at the top of the food chain of American cars in my not so humble opinion, so why wouldn't they evoke strong emotions? But DAMN! I can't see pissing on some guy's love of a certain type of vehicle just because he or she doesn't see it fitting into one's preconceived notions of what a Cadillac should be.
Okay, I DO NOT particularly like low riders. NOT AT ALL.
HOWEVER
After cruising this thread, I'm absolutely Able Sugar over that mid-90s coupe I saw. I just wish it had the stock grille and wheels. But if the builder wanted to build it the way he did, MORE POWER TO HIM. The execution was fabulous. Somebody hold up the TEN sign.
As for me, my 1995 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham with the LT1 into which I had the Carolina Performance Transmissions Stage II 4L60E unit installed, is a FAST HIGHWAY CRUISER and not a "townie" with itsy-bitsy wheels.
But those with those low riders who have that spectacular artwork (those artists deserve one helluva lot of credit - that is true talent) have earned every bit of respect for the gut-wrenching work they have put in to take their vehicles to the level we see.
They sure as hell haven't simply been couch potatoes or parts swappers.
Good goin' guys. Not my cuppa' tea, but I sure like seeing your work.:DThanks for your respect.

It all started on page 8 in which I asked a sincere, and what I thought to be, simple question. In return I get stupidity from chico and 509rider. Very unfortunate...Keep going dumb ****.

Just got these today, soon they will get smoothed out and painted up like the continental kit.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/509rider/Picture.jpg

^^ what are they?

^^ what are they?Engine covers from a corvette lt1.

^^ what are they?

You've never seen fuel rail covers?

Engine covers from a corvette lt1.

Whats up bro? Haven't heard from you in a while. Changed my name from 93fleetwoodlowlow. Ain't cruising low any more. Gone back to my first love of Corvettes, hopefully I'll get one (love the FRC's btw, nice touch :thumbsup:). Seems you got the grandpa's stirred up. LOL

Whats up bro? Haven't heard from you in a while. Changed my name from 93fleetwoodlowlow. Ain't cruising low any more. Gone back to my first love of Corvettes, hopefully I'll get one (love the FRC's btw, nice touch :thumbsup:). Seems you got the grandpa's stirred up. LOLWhats up bro long time no hear, ya only a few ignorant ones but for the most part its good.

Whats up bro long time no hear, ya only a few ignorant ones but for the most part its good.

Yeah I see that. Watch out for flying walkers. You still got your old one? I thought you were selling it at one point to work on this one? Looking good though man. You always do a killer job... WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET THAT THING CHOPPED IN HALF? You know you want a Fleetwood coupe.

All these beautiful lowriders man, I'd love to build another one. Just don't have the money. My next will definitely be a Corvette though. Been wanting one since like 93. LOL! So hopefully I'll be getting one. Was wanting a new one but looks like used 04 now. If I go C5 definitely getting a Z06 Z16.

Yeah I see that. Watch out for flying walkers. You still got your old one? I thought you were selling it at one point to work on this one? Looking good though man. You always do a killer job... WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET THAT THING CHOPPED IN HALF? You know you want a Fleetwood coupe.Sold my old one, and yes I would love to have a coupe but thats a little out of my range for now.

Sold my old one, and yes I would love to have a coupe but thats a little out of my range for now.

Damn, I loved that car. New ones looking good though man, can't wait to see the finished product :thumbsup:

LOL yessir... ANDALE! ANDALE! ARRIBA! Thats what I would say if my car was bouncing up and down.

F**K YOU SIR:dflip: :gun:

apparently everybody who likes to roll low is now a mexican from california? take a look at a lowrider magazine one of these days, japan, europe, africa, its definitely not a fad and its worldwide. I do however love the racism,good job, very intelligent. I bet all of us lowrider guys use a translator to post on this site and steal our internet access from our neighbors when we get done at the labor pool and cashing our daily checks right? thats ridiculous.
if i heard you saying arriba while the car was bouncing id tell you cayete pinche joto.

Clean looking on the ride so far homeboy. cant wait to see pics. sadly i never jump on the site too much, but even sadder all ive seen today is hate.

I do however love the racism...

You are from Texas after all, im sure they lay it on thick... Is their an Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson figure for Mexicans? That is a sincere question....

You are from Texas after all, im sure they lay it on thick... Is their an Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson figure for Mexicans? That is a sincere question....


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LOL I have never seen that emoticon before!

^^ that's a hotlinked image; some other forums have different ones. I have this one: http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x141/Shutterbug668/gr_barf.gif ...lol

Some frame work getting done.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/509rider/1214071230b-1.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/509rider/1217071451-1.jpg

There is no frame of reference in those pictures... it makes the frame look 2 ft wide! Do you guys attempt treat the inner walls of the frame at all?

There is no frame of reference in those pictures... it makes the frame look 2 ft wide! Do you guys attempt treat the inner walls of the frame at all?Your an idiot dont speak on something you have no clue about the frame is getting fully wrapped in 1/4, all factory welds have been rewelded. Just keep watching and crying.

Just read all 17 pages.....
Hmmmmm.

about 3 were updates on how this car is comming along...
What is the current state of the body? Doing any work to it?

It looks like your orange FWB had the "euro" tail lights... I seen them on the lowrider forum also. Are they factory? Whats the story behind them?

For the little talk on the car itself, looks good to me.

That 93-96 FWB made into a coupe... WOW. Thats some hardcore craftsmanship. Those look nice...

I wonder how many of you it took until your kind to realize that you needed to reinforce the frame, probably a lot. Then one day, one of you dropped his club, picked up his knuckles off the ground... and so began the evolution of the low-rider....

"Uhhhh heeeyyyy uhhhh maybe we should uhhh make this stronger uhhh so it doesnt break ya know man... ahhh huhhh huhhh! dis will work ahhh huhhh!"

I will continue this epic saga upon your next exhibition of stupidity.

So much work for a result that retards the car immeasurably. This V4P could once haul 7,000 and hardly break a sweat, but now ... it's sad.

It's like castrating a prized thoroughbred.

It's like castrating a prized thoroughbred.

But hey, its "Castrating made COOL! (ages 18 - 30)" Hey 509Rider send me a picture of your face and ill make a really neat poster of you with that phrase... you'll love it, I swear!

Will you guys stop bashing this kid? He is doing what he wants, and likes to do. There is no need for all this. We all have our opinions. When i said i wanted to put a 90 nose on my x3 black 81 FWBC delegance i got alot of static, and im keeping it a stock looking car. I understand the feedback i got, but at the end of the day its my money, my car, and my work.

Its a open forum... but its getting old.
I know some people here check out the lowrider forum, Ben is a member, and posted pictures about his Coupe after its repaint, stock to death, and they didnt start a war with words and insults on him or his car.

Its a open forum... but its getting old.


It is an open forum and you are entitled to that opinion. However since I'm the one talking shit, I will stop when I am told to stop by a moderator or when I personally think it is getting old, whichever comes first. And so far, neither case has arisen.

It is really just a game at this point... this topic is 509Rider's ship essentially, and a few of us are just trying to sink it... just a game, I really hope no one is taking anything to heart, this is the internet after all! :sneaky:

I know some people here check out the lowrider forum, Ben is a member, and posted pictures about his Coupe after its repaint, stock to death, and they didnt start a war with words and insults on him or his car.


And to prove it,
Here i posted a pic of my 90, you can see it, stock to death here in the "90-92" photo thread. No negative remarks or attacks.
http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=280157&st=1680


and bens.
http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=375121&hl=

Both didnt get alot of reply, but nothing negative.

:hijacked::protest:

And to prove it,
Here i posted a pic of my 90, you can see it, stock to death here in the "90-92" photo thread. No negative remarks or attacks.

Ok, listen... I see what you are trying to get at, but look it this way... A stock Cadillac is a virgin Cadillac there is nothing to complain about, there is nothing to ridicule... because it is stock... it is a fresh, unaltered vehicle. Low-Riders see a stock Cadillac as a lump of clay on a potters wheel. To ridicule a stock Cadillac is to ridicule the Cadillac name, they made the car in the first place we did not... so of course there is not going to be any negative remarks, nothing has been done to it! To have a perfect, all OEM Cadillac is actually the most ideal position to be in because nothing can be critiqued, its flawless (except for some design features, but that is a common point of criticism among a community).

With the exception of that late model COUPED FWB which is an incredible design... absolutely incredible, I love it to death. That designer (and Lowrider) is one hell of an innovator!

I wonder how many of you it took until your kind to realize that you needed to reinforce the frame, probably a lot. Then one day, one of you dropped his club, picked up his knuckles off the ground... and so began the evolution of the low-rider....

"Uhhhh heeeyyyy uhhhh maybe we should uhhh make this stronger uhhh so it doesnt break ya know man... ahhh huhhh huhhh! dis will work ahhh huhhh!"

I will continue this epic saga upon your next exhibition of stupidity.Its been going on for about 20 years of course what would you know.

So much work for a result that retards the car immeasurably. This V4P could once haul 7,000 and hardly break a sweat, but now ... it's sad.

It's like castrating a prized thoroughbred.I would love to meet some of you bitches in person all this tuff guy talk on the internet is great

But hey, its "Castrating made COOL! (ages 18 - 30)" Hey 509Rider send me a picture of your face and ill make a really neat poster of you with that phrase... you'll love it, I swear!Would you touch yourself while looking at it, you seem to be obsessed with me.

Just read all 17 pages.....
Hmmmmm.

about 3 were updates on how this car is comming along...
What is the current state of the body? Doing any work to it?

It looks like your orange FWB had the "euro" tail lights... I seen them on the lowrider forum also. Are they factory? Whats the story behind them?

For the little talk on the car itself, looks good to me.

That 93-96 FWB made into a coupe... WOW. Thats some hardcore craftsmanship. Those look nice...Thanks for the interest, the orange and red tails are factory european tailights really rare also, I have been offered 500 bux for them on a few occasions but wanted to keep them, mainly cause most people would not even notice them unless they new there caddys. As far as the body I am still stripping of all the foam off the top, not much fun should have more updates soon.

Its been going on for about 20 years of course what would you know.

20 years? Considering where your kind is at in the evolutionary process, that sounds about right, only a few million more years and you will be restoring '59 Eldorado Biarritzs... assuming these cars would last that long.

I would love to meet some of you bitches in person all this tuff guy talk on the internet is great

Tough guy talk? Your the only one cussing and displaying outright anger. We argue in a civilized manner which always seem to cut much deeper than how a fool argues.

Would you touch yourself while looking at it, you seem to be obsessed with me.

As obsessed as predator is with his prey... is probably the best analogy of our dealings. But again, your reference vouches for your capability to argue in a civil fashion. Regardless... if I must answer, it is no, now will you send me the picture so I can work on this poster over my winter break?

20 years? Considering where your kind is at in the evolutionary process, that sounds about right, only a few million more years and you will be restoring '59 Eldorado Biarritzs... assuming these cars would last that long.



Tough guy talk? Your the only one cussing and displaying outright anger. We argue in a civilized manner which always seem to cut much deeper than how a fool argues.



As obsessed as predator is with his prey... is probably the best analogy of our dealings. But again, your reference vouches for your capability to argue in a civil fashion. Regardless... if I must answer, it is no, now will you send me the picture so I can work on this poster over my winter break?To awnser your first retarded remark, there was no reason the reinforce frames in the early 80s because they didnt have the performance they do now, before it was just up and down. But im sure you knew that.
Second I would not talk to anybody on the internet any differant in person can you say the same, go to your next closest lowrider show and run your mouth and be sure to put it on video.
Keep stalking me as you must be a little on the gay side, its ok no need to hide but I must tell you i am straight and happily married. Ok fudge packer.

Oh and thank you for keeping my topic at the top.

As if you didn't reveal this as a V4P for the sole purpose of starting trouble.

As if you didn't reveal this as a V4P for the sole purpose of starting trouble.:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::c rying:

Wont have any updates for about a week, taking a little time off.

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i'm banning you if you ever post in large font again.

Ill keep flooding your topic and detracting attention as long as you keep responding to me. .

no, you wont and neither will the OP

Keep stalking me as you must be a little on the gay side, its ok no need to hide but I must tell you i am straight and happily married. Ok fudge packer.

everyone in this thread just earned ME stalking THEM.

All of you guys arguing need to get your acts together. There is no "class act" amongst you in this battle. You're all equally acting like children.