View Full Version : Very low mileage fleetwoods, like under 35k. cadydaddy 11-19-07, 06:26 PM OK So I was looking on autotrader and such for 94-96 fleetwoods with under 35-40k on them.
Seen a few with 25-40k on them and they are all asking like 12-14,000. is this a rip?
Yeah they look like new and have low miles but what would you guys pay for a car like this???
Side note, I seen some roadmasters with the same low miles for around 6-8,000. to high or?????
Thanks. caddycruiser 11-19-07, 09:25 PM The Fleetwoods actually go go up greatly in value with the lower the miles...more along the lines of something like the sale of a recent member on another board, who sold a '95 he had with 21k on it for a little over $12,000.
The more miles, the more they are in line with Roadmasters and Caprices. With less miles and the more like new shape, $10-15k isn't uncommon and people do pay it.
Roadmasters seem to max out at around $6-7k regardless, no matter how new and nice, and Caprices a bit lower. All depends on what people actually really want and will pay for. 96Fleetwood 11-19-07, 09:35 PM Roadmasters are not worth much... even similar mileage Caprices bring more.
I have around ~$3,000 invested in my '94 Roadmaster Limited with 58K 1 owner miles. z06bigbird 11-20-07, 12:21 AM The Fleetwoods actually go go up greatly in value with the lower the miles...more along the lines of something like the sale of a recent member on another board, who sold a '95 he had with 21k on it for a little over $12,000.
The more miles, the more they are in line with Roadmasters and Caprices. With less miles and the more like new shape, $10-15k isn't uncommon and people do pay it.
Roadmasters seem to max out at around $6-7k regardless, no matter how new and nice, and Caprices a bit lower. All depends on what people actually really want and will pay for.
Nice cars, but keep in mind that they are just old cars. You could buy a nice CTS with warranty for $15k. It will ride like a VW, but it will have a warranty.
Those big cars are hard to sell right now because of gas prices. caddycruiser 11-20-07, 12:26 AM Nice cars, but keep in mind that they are just old cars. You could buy a nice CTS with warranty for $15k. It will ride like a VW, but it will have a warranty.
Those big cars are hard to sell right now because of gas prices.
I totally agree. I WOULDN'T spend that kind of money on one, even if it were a museum piece...there are still people out there who will and do.
As is, I'm quite happy with the around $5k mark, 100k+ miles and all, but that's about my theoretical limit. Cadillacboy 11-20-07, 05:49 AM I would !
Yeah,keep in mind I'm biased .BTW, I don't think those cars are real gas guzzlers .It has a similar consumption to Seville and I think CTS has no better MPG than Fleetwoods . 96Fleetwood 11-20-07, 08:01 AM Nice cars, but keep in mind that they are just old cars. You could buy a nice CTS with warranty for $15k. It will ride like a VW, but it will have a warranty.
Those big cars are hard to sell right now because of gas prices.
Quite the opposite... the CTS are dropping in value like flies in winter. I feel sorry for the person who paid $40K for their 3.6 new and it is worth $26K a year later.
I have never had a problem selling a "OLD" B or D body vehicle, it is the newer vehicles that give you problems in selling. No one wants a car payment anymore with the bad economy. Cheap luxury is where its at, and better yet.. a true auto enthusiast knows these "OLD" cars are far better built than the new cars. The new American cars are as American as the Toyota Camry.
Enjoy your CTS... the only CTS I would even consider owning is the V. Night Wolf 11-20-07, 10:57 AM I totally agree. I WOULDN'T spend that kind of money on one, even if it were a museum piece...there are still people out there who will and do.
As is, I'm quite happy with the around $5k mark, 100k+ miles and all, but that's about my theoretical limit.
I agree with you... miles alone don't really mean much to me, and in Florida, most any old Cadillac/Lincoln/Buick can be had for dirt cheap and are typically in very good shape... I picked up my '96 Town Car Signature Series Touring Sedan for $3,500 with 93k miles, body/paint is flawless, yeah it did have its share of mechanical issues, but it didn't kill me to fix it myself..... so figure maybe $1,500 tops at most and I am right at the $5,000 mark with a mint Town Car that now has 106k miles that needs nothing and has a bunch of new parts, I'm happy. Same goes for finding Caddys of similar years and conditions down in retirement land. 96Fleetwood 11-20-07, 01:02 PM I got my 1994 Roadmaster Limited from the original 92 year old owner, it had 57,000 miles when I bought it and I payed ~$2K for it.
The only issue with these low mileage cars is they usually need some work. I had to do around ~$1K in work to bring it up to my standards... and in the Spring I will probably modify it a little bit to make it a peppy daily driver :thumbsup: But when all is said and done I have a 58K mile car that is in good shape for its age for $3,000 :bouncy: cadydaddy 11-20-07, 04:48 PM I got my 1994 Roadmaster Limited from the original 92 year old owner, it had 57,000 miles when I bought it and I payed ~$2K for it.
The only issue with these low mileage cars is they usually need some work. I had to do around ~$1K in work to bring it up to my standards... and in the Spring I will probably modify it a little bit to make it a peppy daily driver :thumbsup: But when all is said and done I have a 58K mile car that is in good shape for its age for $3,000 :bouncy:
Why do the lower mileage one need work? more so then a high miler???
Also, you being a owner of a rm and fleetwood, what are the driving characteristics of both? ride quality, acceleration, braking, turning, road noise, wind etc.
Thanks. 96Fleetwood 11-20-07, 06:09 PM My Fleetwood is far from stock.. so I really can't compare it to the stock Roadmaster.
The low mileage cars tend to have sat for a while, making various items go bad from the lack of use. cadydaddy 11-20-07, 07:49 PM But you know what a stock fleetwood is like right. caddycruiser 11-21-07, 06:27 PM But you know what a stock fleetwood is like right.
Here was something I wrote before, since we have a '92 Roadmaster, and both a '93 and '95 Fleetwood:
We own both, and they definately are not the same car. Yes, all of the mechanical bits underneath the skin, the frame design, suspension, and powertrain is identical between the Roadmaster and Fleetwood.
HOWEVER, as was said above, the Fleetwood is on the longer D-body platform, which is the lengthened version of the B-body under the Caprice/Roadmaster. In truth, the Caprice and Roadmaster are the two that are the most like one another, especially in dimensions and pieces, the Caprice being the cheapest and the Roadmaster in the middle.
All of them, especially the Roadmaster and Fleetwood, drive pretty much identically, too. BUT, the Fleetwood definately has a higher grade of interior materials and finishes (Roadmaster has a lot of rock hard, shiny plastic and stiff leather, while the Fleetwood has mostly soft, low sheen plastic and soft, supple leather), and shares next to nothing on the exterior.
So, TECHNICALLY, they are pretty much the same car, but the Fleetwood was nearly $10k more when new, and that money was clearly well spent on more size, better materials, and the best look of the bunch. I've never been much of a Caprice fan because of the typically low-buck, mass market look, but really like both the Roadmaster and Fleetwood.
Essentially, they both feel very similar if they have the same suspension, but the Fleetwood has nicer, higher quality trim inside and out, and the extra length+weight can make it a bit more ponderous.
I've always thought the Roadmaster felt a bit more solid, but I know it isn't, it's just the small differences in trim and the size differences, etc. The Fleetwood generally feels ritzier throughout, and looks the part. But the Roadmaster isn't TOO far off. scurling 11-22-07, 12:49 PM Thats way too much money for those cars. I could possibly see paying the low end (12K) for a '96 Brougham in Excellent condition. But in general the Fleetwoods don't demand that high a price these days.
Lower mileage cars that haven't reached a major maintenance interval have usually been sitting a lot, or driven a few dozen miles each week. The owners haven't had to put much money into their cars. With age comes other problems that have often been neglected from the lack of use. caddycruiser 11-22-07, 10:04 PM Lower mileage cars that haven't reached a major maintenance interval have usually been sitting a lot, or driven a few dozen miles each week. The owners haven't had to put much money into their cars. With age comes other problems that have often been neglected from the lack of use.
Exactly something Elias is dealing with after his low mileage Roadmaster acquisition...little use can be good for many things, but not necessarily for mechanicals. scurling 11-23-07, 09:16 PM :yeah: .....completely agree. I had similar issues with my '94 when I purchased it with only 48K a few years ago. I lucked out that the problems I found were considered safety items that failed the car on a state inspection. I was able to negotiate after the selling price was established with the dealer to get them fixed.
I bought my second '94 with only 24K three years ago. I haven't had any problems with it. It was a funeral home vehicle, always garaged inside and very well maintained. My_favorite_Brougham 11-26-07, 08:25 PM I agree with all this. My '90 Brougham had been a daily driver since new when I bought it in '06 and it never had problems beyond a fuel filter and oil changes ran strong w/ 134K miles. However my '91 Coupe sat for five years and has all kinds of fuel/emissions problems, and my '83 Olds Custom Cruiser wagon sat for six years and has corroded freeze plugs from old coolant along with other rickety problems. Yet there's no high milage problems; both have under 100K miles too. Benzilla 11-26-07, 10:58 PM Well, I bought my '83 Coupe deVille from the original 86 year old owner, with 46k on it. I put 4,000 mi. on it, and all it ever asked for was an oil change, coolant change, muffler, and brakes. She ran perfectly. 96Fleetwood 11-27-07, 07:41 AM You are lucky.
At least I can say after all the work I have done on my low mileage Roadmaster, it does ride like a dream and will be pretty much worry free for the next 50,000-100K miles. z06bigbird 11-27-07, 09:40 AM [QUOTE=96Fleetwood;1298370]Quite the opposite... the CTS are dropping in value like flies in winter.
Smart buyer will jump on a good car (like CTS) when the bottom drops out (price-wise). I bought mine with less than 24k miles; seller did not realize his car has sport and lux package. Not a scratch on car; all maint records, GMPP.
I really lucked out--for once. My decision was to buy this CTS or a Taurus when talking about pricing. No brainer. | |