View Full Version : Rear strut brace Lindsay Cadillac Parts 11-17-07, 09:40 AM In an effort to get this great product out to the masses, I have teamed up with Nels (forum member) to distribute the RMD rear strut brace. price is $150.00 plus shipping. here's why you need one..........
The purpose of strut bars is to reduce flex that these towers experience during hard cornering. When taking a turn a car's strut tower normally flex, resulting body flex and losing some traction. As a strut tower bar is designed to keep your car's strut tower from flexing, they distribute the pressure applied to one strut tower when taking a turn to both towers instead of just one. This keeps the wheels in position. Keeping the wheels in position helps keep the tires in the desired position on the road, and this will help to improve traction on the turns.
A rear strut bar minimizes under steer due to less chassis flex and improves stability during corner braking.
I am taking orders on this great deal now!!! expect about a 2 week delivery time. We got one for the CTS and it realy made the car much more solid while aggressively accelerating through corners. Highly recommended! darkman 11-17-07, 01:02 PM We got one for the CTS and it realy made the car much more solid while aggressively accelerating through corners. Highly recommended!
Echo this. I recently put one in my V and it made a noticeable difference in cornering. Specifically, I can exit corners faster because it allows me to get back on the throttle sooner. The rear of the car feels better grounded. The build quality is also excellent and the installation is easy. What the hell.
I'll try one.
Luke, any way I could get one before going to VIR on 7-9 Dec?
-Chris Lindsay Cadillac Parts 11-17-07, 01:10 PM Shouldnt be a problem Chris. I will call you next week. thanks Shouldnt be a problem Chris. I will call you next week. thanks
Sounds good :D
-Chris ZEUSROTTY 11-17-07, 04:11 PM wow... a 50.00 middle man. Luke,
How do you come up with so many ways to put me in credit card debt? Have me one there when I bring the V up. I will need one to keep up with Chris.
Thanks,
John The Tony Show 11-17-07, 07:33 PM wow... a 50.00 middle man.
Yeah, God forbid somebody make a profit for spending their time ordering and distributing something. :rolleyes: rand49er 11-17-07, 08:10 PM Luke, what's required to mount this sucker? Just poke a couple of holes in the trunk envelope? Are there any specs on the holes?
Gee-zo-pete ... gonna have to be well after the new year to do this one. I'm getting like lunarx (Ernie) with mods layin' all over the darn place with no time to get 'em installed. That darn Luke! :thepan: darkman 11-17-07, 09:09 PM Luke, what's required to mount this sucker? Just poke a couple of holes in the trunk envelope? Are there any specs on the holes?
Gee-zo-pete ... gonna have to be well after the new year to do this one. I'm getting like lunarx (Ernie) with mods layin' all over the darn place with no time to get 'em installed. That darn Luke! :thepan:
You guessed it. All that is required is a hole on each side of the trunk envelope. I just cut mine based on measurements taken with the brace mounts in place but without the brace bar itself. You will have removed the trunk envelope pieces anyway to get to the top strut mounts. The brace mounts provided use the existing strut fastening hardware. The length of the brace is adjustable. ZEUSROTTY 11-17-07, 09:57 PM Yeah, God forbid somebody make a profit for spending their time ordering and distributing something. :rolleyes:
I WAS GONNA BUY ONE LAST WEEK WHEN THEY WERE 100.00... i WILL STILL GET ONE, BUT I WONT FEEL AS WONDERFUL ABOUT IT... Lindsay Cadillac Parts 11-18-07, 12:02 AM wow... a 50.00 middle man.
tis true, Nels was selling them for a little less than I am (he actually just had a price increase and shipping from Canada can be a little pricey). I am distributing these for several reasons. 1st, I think its a hell of a product. 2nd because of the current status of the American dollar, Nels was barely turning a profit on his hard work when he sold to U.S customers. with my large (and much appreciated!) customer base, I can hopefully place large orders with him rather than he make up a few here and there. I wont pee on your leg and tell you its raining, my job is to make a few dollars for Lindsay Cadillac when and where I can, but a very close 2nd is supporting this community. I actually delayed this deal between Nels and I for several weeks deciding if I had an issue with selling a current product that people were becoming aware of for more than it could have been bought prior. in the end I figured I was helping out Nels by hopefully exposing his product to more people and not having him worry about an authorized vendor fee (which is a fair chunk of change). He is certainly helping me out by adding another great mod to my growing list. ZEUSROTTY 11-18-07, 12:31 AM tis true, Nels was selling them for a little less than I am (he actually just had a price increase and shipping from Canada can be a little pricey). I am distributing these for several reasons. 1st, I think its a hell of a product. 2nd because of the current status of the American dollar, Nels was barely turning a profit on his hard work when he sold to U.S customers. with my large (and much appreciated!) customer base, I can hopefully place large orders with him rather than he make up a few here and there. I wont pee on your leg and tell you its raining, my job is to make a few dollars for Lindsay Cadillac when and where I can, but a very close 2nd is supporting this community. I actually delayed this deal between Nels and I for several weeks deciding if I had an issue with selling a current product that people were becoming aware of for more than it could have been bought prior. in the end I figured I was helping out Nels by hopefully exposing his product to more people and not having him worry about an authorized vendor fee (which is a fair chunk of change). He is certainly helping me out by adding another great mod to my growing list.
No worries man... I was a little upset at first, because I was just on the cusp of an order with nels... But then I decided to have my trans redone, and get a short shifter... I will get one soon though... I own a Mortgage company, so I know that we all need to make a profit!!!! Luke is quite accurate in posting that I was barely turning a profit on the bars I was selling. Between the high Canadian dollar and the cost of production, I started with the price low since I wasn’t sure there was much interest in the bar. Then as I’ve been producing more, I’ve realized I can’t continue with the low cost. I do apologize for what looks like a deal that is going to cost everyone more money, but even if Lindsay Cadillac and I didn’t team up, I was going to be increasing the prices. Another factor is that I’m Canadian trying to sell into the American market and Luke simply has stronger connections to the market. I’m not a guy who’s doing this 24/7, it’s a passion I have and I do this on the side, so having Luke and his team back my product is great and I look forward to future products being developed together. darkman 11-18-07, 10:41 AM After all is said and done, this product is still a bargain. ZEUSROTTY 11-18-07, 03:23 PM After all is said and done, this product is still a bargain.
hell yeah it is... rand49er 11-18-07, 04:00 PM ... my job is to make a few dollars for Lindsay Cadillac when and where I can ...Precisely.
Lindsay Cadillac is a business. A business exists to make money plain and simple. Luke wouldn't have a job if Lindsay didn't make money through his efforts. I know ZEUSROTTY understands that; he's just frustrated.
Luke, you keep making all the money you guys can so you can provide the products we, as your customer base, want. If you get too greedy, someone else will step in ... it ain't personal, just business. Until then, Luke, keep on keepin' on. :thumbsup:
So, now let's all :grouphug:. Lindsay Cadillac Parts 11-19-07, 08:47 AM Now thats out of the way, who wants a rear strut brace!!! Lindsay Cadillac Parts 11-19-07, 04:05 PM thanks for the multiple orders already!!!! should have stock in hand by early next week!! profit isn't a bad word, after all it is how most of us got our V's and it's the only way how I can keep tires on the car. Mortgage broker make you broker.....JK Lindsay Cadillac Parts 11-21-07, 08:12 PM only 2-3 left out of my first 10 pack! CTSV_Rob 11-21-07, 10:07 PM Hmmm. Luke, buddy, pal.
You need to stop doing this to me the wife is going to kick me out (I'll take one). rand49er 11-23-07, 11:43 AM Can anyone comment on the degree to which these may or may not obstruct the pass-through feature of the rear seats folding down? I'll bite- 1 sold to Chef Can anyone comment on the degree to which these may or may not obstruct the pass-through feature of the rear seats folding down?
That's what's holding me back as well.
I had a Rear Strut Bar on my WRX Wagon that had quick release bolts.
That made it a cinch to remove when you had cargo to haul.
With this bar, I suppose a couple of wrenches would need to be kept in the car.
Any chance of a quick release version? darkman 11-23-07, 12:14 PM Can anyone comment on the degree to which these may or may not obstruct the pass-through feature of the rear seats folding down?
The rear strut brace does cross thorugh the pass-through tunnel as can be seen in the photos. You can still fit (pass-through) objects above and below it. Removal and/or reinstallation once installed can be done in about 10 minutes by detaching the brace from one of the brackets at the bracket and then from the other bracket at the brace's point of attachment. Yes the bar crosses over the pass through from the rear seat to the trunk. There is still room to pass through items above or below the bar. I'll post a picture of the rear bar with the rear seat down this evening.
I had though of a quick release bar a while ago. There are a couple of things preventing me from developing it. 1) Being cost. 2) Being structural integrity of the bar. Moving the mounting point of the bar to the strut plates will weaken the bar. rand49er 11-23-07, 05:15 PM ... I'll post a picture of the rear bar with the rear seat down this evening. ...:thumbsup: rand49er 11-24-07, 11:40 AM Here is the picture.Not too bad, is it?!
Thanks, Nels! :thumbsup: Lindsay Cadillac Parts 12-06-07, 04:23 PM Just received and sold my first 10 of these, the pictures dont do them justice!!! the quality of these is stunning. Quick order one of my next allotment before my "supplier" reallizes he his selling them to cheap!!!!! Luke,
Just a reminder that I am swinging by in the AM to get my brace, the front HP+'s, and to talk about the summit trip. I should be over around 10ish.
-Chris Gordy Petrovski 12-06-07, 07:48 PM Dammmmmmit I will take 1 shoot me a PM,Merry X-Mass to myself Not too bad, is it?!
Thanks, Nels! :thumbsup:
It's not bad at all. Install time should take 20min. sideways_v 12-07-07, 03:21 AM Hey Nels, quick question: Is the bar bare aluminum, clear coated, clear anodized, or any other coating? Just curious.
BTW, it looks great! ewill3rd 12-07-07, 06:58 AM Chris, I'll be waiting for you this morning.
I did one a couple days ago so I should be able to do it a little quicker, this time I'll try not to slash my fingers open with a razorblade like I did on the last one... don't worry no blood in the car :D
I have a big job in the shop right now but I should be able to get you going farily quickly.
It isn't a hard install guys, just takes some time to trim the liner and make it all beautiful.
A template for cutting the side panels would be nice :D darkman 12-07-07, 08:07 AM I don't have a template, but once I located and started the opening, I used metal cutting shears with good results. Hey Nels, quick question: Is the bar bare aluminum, clear coated, clear anodized, or any other coating? Just curious.
BTW, it looks great!
The the bar clear anodized. I'm gald you like it UnsafeAtAnySpd 12-07-07, 09:04 PM I just got my bar today (opened the box less than 10 minutes ago...as well as the headers and flywheel boxes :) ) Looks good. darkman 12-07-07, 09:09 PM I just got my bar today (opened the box less than 10 minutes ago...as well as the headers and flywheel boxes :) ) Looks good.
New speed equipment always looks good. When is the install? UnsafeAtAnySpd 12-07-07, 09:19 PM The brace hopefully this weekend. The other parts will probably have to wait until the new year. Not only am I going to be out of town for 2 weeks, I also want to get a dyno run in before the headers/cats install. darkman 12-07-07, 09:23 PM Getting a base set of dyno numbers is a good idea. The rear strut brace is pretty simple. Good luck. CTSV_Rob 12-08-07, 01:22 AM Just got the Rear strut tower brace and it looks nice.
I will be doing the installaion this weekend along with the SST brake lines and a fluid flush. Anyone know the torque for the Strut tower bolts? darkman 12-08-07, 08:09 AM Just got the Rear strut tower brace and it looks nice.
I will be doing the installaion this weekend along with the SST brake lines and a fluid flush. Anyone know the torque for the Strut tower bolts?
The service manual calls for 18 foot pounds. CTSV_Rob 12-08-07, 11:46 AM Sweet, thanks darkman CTSV_Rob 12-08-07, 11:46 AM After the meet today she is going to be installed. I envy you guys having meets in December lol CTSV_Rob 12-08-07, 12:07 PM I am going to be on a race track next weekend...
I love CA. darkman 12-08-07, 12:19 PM The current temperature in Houston, Texas is 79 degrees with an expected high of 83. It ain't CA though because we have 71% humidity to go with the heat. All this track talk! I'm moving to the US:yup: All this track talk! I'm moving to the US:yup:
I'll come too CTSV_Rob 12-08-07, 04:55 PM Be careful, don't be tricked and move to MN! Cold and snow will stop you from heading to the track.
Ah, the sun is out and the weather is nice...
looking forward to next weekend! Be careful, don't be tricked and move to MN! Cold and snow will stop you from heading to the track.
Ah, the sun is out and the weather is nice...
looking forward to next weekend!
I have in mind southern US. CA, AZ, TX etc. It all depends on how next year goes. CTSV_Rob 12-08-07, 05:41 PM You can't go wrong, all nice places to me. AZ and TX get a bit warm but they are nice. Bueller 12-09-07, 07:19 PM Ok got it installed, easy. Bare trunk. Has anyone made a template for the holes in the side panels? I see in the pics there is something black under the brace...what is that? I want to make the holes in the side panels as small as possible. I just hate to hack and hack until they are large enough to make them work. Any better pics showing the final mounting possition on the interior trunk panels? Maybe something with a tape measure in the picture...Thanks. CTSV_Rob 12-09-07, 08:51 PM Got mine in too but I'm leaving the side panels out for now. Didn't expect to remove the rear seat completely but it was easy. I'm sure someone will chime in with an easier way but it didn't take me long so I'm not worried about it.
Track next week so I will worry about prettying her up sometime after Christmas.
Any recommendations on the openings?
1- Juuuust big enough to fit the bar
2- Big enough to adjust the bar
3- Carry the opening all the way to the front
4- just a cut toward the front to just slide it over the bar
This is a daily driver so I would like to get the side panels back in. Really liking the bar so far.
Oh yeah, does it need to be preloaded or neutral? darkman 12-09-07, 09:00 PM Got mine in too but I'm leaving the side panels out for now. Didn't expect to remove the rear seat completely but it was easy. I'm sure someone will chime in with an easier way but it didn't take me long so I'm not worried about it.
Track next week so I will worry about prettying her up sometime after Christmas.
Any recommendations on the openings?
1- Juuuust big enough to fit the bar
2- Big enough to adjust the bar
3- Carry the opening all the way to the front
4- just a cut toward the front to just slide it over the bar
This is a daily driver so I would like to get the side panels back in. Really liking the bar so far.
Oh yeah, does it need to be preloaded or neutral?
I cut mine just large enough to adjust the bar using metal cutting shears. I preloaded it--but just barely. Ok got it installed, easy. Bare trunk. Has anyone made a template for the holes in the side panels? I see in the pics there is something black under the brace...what is that? I want to make the holes in the side panels as small as possible. I just hate to hack and hack until they are large enough to make them work. Any better pics showing the final mounting possition on the interior trunk panels? Maybe something with a tape measure in the picture...Thanks.
I've attemped to make a temp plate but I didn't have much success. The two black plates are there to cover the very large holes that I made in the trunk panels.
Got mine in too but I'm leaving the side panels out for now. Didn't expect to remove the rear seat completely but it was easy. I'm sure someone will chime in with an easier way but it didn't take me long so I'm not worried about it.
Track next week so I will worry about prettying her up sometime after Christmas.
Any recommendations on the openings?
1- Juuuust big enough to fit the bar
2- Big enough to adjust the bar
3- Carry the opening all the way to the front
4- just a cut toward the front to just slide it over the bar
This is a daily driver so I would like to get the side panels back in. Really liking the bar so far.
Oh yeah, does it need to be preloaded or neutral?
I'm running the bar with a perload. But since you haven't track the car with the brace, try it in the neutral postion and made small adjustments untill your happy. I measured up from the floor to the bottom of the bar and the top of the bar, cut a hole the size of the bar, then a slit to the front of the panel. Fit was perfect. ewill3rd 12-10-07, 07:15 AM The whopping two that I have done....
I found a spot on the panel that I can put my tape measure on, I measure up from that spot 5 inches and make an incision. From there I make a horizontal line, then go up and down about 1/2".
After I make the opening I make a slit in the panel down to a small cutout on the trunk side.
Oh I guess I should point out that I remove the back seat for installation... much easier.
Anyway, after the bar is in place and all the fasteners are tight I slide the panels over the bar with the bubble wrap still on it (no scratches) then when it is all done I pull the bubble wrap off.
The second one looked a bit better than the first. The jute and stuff behind the hole can make it look bad but you can trim it and move it away from the opening. I am using some shears right now also but they are more like meat cutting scissors. The gash in my finger indicates that a razorblade is not the best tool to use! (oops!)
I'll take a picture of the measurement for you DIY-ers. Not sure when I'll get another one in. Bueller 12-11-07, 04:46 PM [QUOTE=ewill3rd;1322818]The whopping two that I have done....
I found a spot on the panel that I can put my tape measure on, I measure up from that spot 5 inches and make an incision. From there I make a horizontal line, then go up and down about 1/2".
I wish I knew where that spot was. I found lots of spots I could measure. Is this from the floor, or on the small ledge on the bottom? Anyone with pics from inside the trunk with the camera sitting on the bar looking tword the mount with the liner installed? Just don't want to hack, then buy a new liner and get it right on the second go around. Thanks guys. ewill3rd 12-11-07, 05:25 PM Next one I do I'll try to snap a photo.
It is hard to describe without a photo.
Trukk's car will be in tomorrow, maybe I'll get a photo of that one! Ok here are two pictures that I took.
As you can see the bar is 5 inches from the trunk floor, and 2.5 inch from the rear seats.
You may notice the brace style is different from the ones that Lindsay is selling. This was the first bar that I made. |