i just got this car, i just couldnt pass it up for the price but the thing is that the old 85 year old lady was driving it and she got t boned:crying:but do you guys think its worth fixing it? other than that the car is clean:D
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Ouch... that thing was hit hard.

Hate to say it, but that doesnt look like its worth fixing... its way beyond needing a door... the rocker is gone... prob need need a quarter too

On the bright side.. it'll make one hell of a parts car

im going to atempt it anyways, its worth a try i think, these cars are getting harder and harder to come buy,its going to need a jamb for sure and a door. the rocker looks like it got smashed pretty good but its not that bad.

That's too bad. I saw the first pic before reading and was really excited about the car.

I agree I don't think it's economically viable. Do it if you want to save the car but know that it would be less time and money just to find another one like it.

Keep the rims though.... sweet!

Save it.

I agree, save it. There's only a limited number of these cars on the market anymore. Hows the interior where it was hit? Can you save the door panel? And is the engine bay still OK? I hope the frame isn't bent. Thank heavens it wasn't t-boned at a wheel, then you'd lose the wires and the frame. but there IS still hope for her. Is the car driveable?

if someone t-boned her, then the other party's insurance must have totaled this car. Did you get it from an insurance auction? Probably for just hundred buck, right?

On the bright side, this really does give account to the massiveness of the car. I bet the car that hit her was completely torn to bits.

yeah for sure im going to keep it, the weels are for sale also, the door panel is still there perfect just bubbled in cause of the hit,i got for real cheap from the little old lady's son and no the title is not totaled.the frame aint bent neither drove the car 2 hours from were i live, still rides like a caddy:D will post more pics of the progress:cool:any more input is welcome

Oh, well if the frame isn't bent, and it wasn't totaled (surprising considering the age and damage) then it should be rebuildable. Hard part will be finding parts, (especially the interior door panel) that match.

it didnt get totaled because they never reported it, the door panel is still perfect with no rips, all i need to do is take it off and put it on the new door i got.

another thing, my drivers side window wont roll down anymore it did when i drove it home the first day then i tried rolling it down the next day and wouldnt do anything, but the pass side window still rolls down some, anyone know what it could be? maybe a fuse? weres the box at?

i would first clean all the contacts at the switch if she were a fuse no windows would be working and pm me how much u want for the wire wheels....

pm sent, thanks man ill try cleaning the switch, what if that dont work? what else can it be?

Do it.

^^^thanks man, i will :thumbsup:

back to the top, the caddy's been getting some work heres a link to the progress pics http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=373062
but heres how she stands as of now, all the pieces are just screwed on, but we have it now on the rack to pull the floor out a little still.but its getting there :D

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/96BIG_BODY/buildup38.jpg
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More pics.:p

Looking good! I'm so glad she found somebody who is giving her the attention that many need, but few receive.

So, I've only been loosely following the thread over at layitlow; restoring her, or what?

not any soon,at least not til early next year:thumbsup:i take classes at the local community college and thats were im getting down at, but were off for winter brake tomorow and dont get back til like the first week of jan.so...but heres some good news though my digi cluster on my 90s working now :D one less thing to worry bout,until i start tearing into the dash to putin into this one :ohno:
IM ALSO STARTING FRESH WITH 0 MILES:cool2:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/96BIG_BODY/DIGI.jpg

yea man thinking of doing the whole frame and engine swap with the 90 i have, but dont know where to start you know,dont know if i said before but ima lowrider:D so is getting cut,so i would need to wrap the 90s frame before i put in the coupe.so many ideas but not too sure on where to start though
Looking good! I'm so glad she found somebody who is giving her the attention that many need, but few receive.

So, I've only been loosely following the thread over at layitlow; restoring her, or what?

yea man thinking of doing the whole frame and engine swap with the 90 i have, but dont know where to start you know,dont know if i said before but ima lowrider:D so is getting cut,so i would need to wrap the 90s frame before i put in the coupe.so many ideas but not too sure on where to start though:bouncy::bouncy::bouncy::bouncy::bouncy::bou ncy::bouncy::bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:

and you know thisssssss mannnnnnnnnn:highfive:

Oh no, you're making it a low rider AND giving it a 90s treatment? I thought you said you were SAVING this car! It would have been better off dying with dignity in a junkyard...

Haha, just kidding. I've just never been a fan of the 90s coupe conversions. It's great that you're saving the car though, your pictures make it seem easy! You may have answered this, but where did the wire wheels go?

i still gottem in my garage homie, if someone wants them make an offer;)

I think it would look great with an original-themed '90 conversion. Be a little different. I like tasteful lowriders, but there's already soo many '90d lowriders. and less than a handful of faux '90 Brougham coupes.

Yeah, I'd like to see a '90 coupe that's "stock" in appearance. No fancy paint or wheels; just a 2-door Brougham that no one except the keen would notice. :thumbsup: Glad to see she's stayin' alive, nonetheless. :thumbsup:

Greg

this one should be nice and simple:thumbsup: and thanks everyone for their positive comments

Be sure to post pix of the conversion, during and done. I wanna see the process myself, and since you seem to take such detailed photos, I think we'll all be thrilled. I'm glad you're keeping it "simple;" that's how these cars were meant to be. And is that new digi cluster going in her with a full interior swap, too? That's always the nicest! How'd you get it down to zero?? Didn't think digital let you roll back.

something along these lines just nice and clean, want to go with a bluish color though with light grey:yup:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/96BIG_BODY/kanyllac.jpg

will do, this is my first time doing this so if i f**k up we'l all learn as we go:D yea about that that it always changes,sometimes nothing shows up,sometimes the original miles show, sometimes i get two X's sometimes it reads 4004 miles,but it usally just stays off, i dont mind though
Be sure to post pix of the conversion, during and done. I wanna see the process myself, and since you seem to take such detailed photos, I think we'll all be thrilled. I'm glad you're keeping it "simple;" that's how these cars were meant to be. And is that new digi cluster going in her with a full interior swap, too? That's always the nicest! How'd you get it down to zero?? Didn't think digital let you roll back.

^^ That's pretty nice, but I've never been a fan of the "tan" color combos. Unless it was all one color and meant to match. Glad to hear you have more conservative colors in mind. Personally I'd have the top match the car and do something like "diplomat blue" or all black or all white. Also, just a suggestion, keep the stock wire wheels. They're just as flashy and full of spokes as any other, and you'll drop the jaws of both lowriders and "oem only" people.

you mean i should keep them on the car? naaaa:D dont think so man:D ima go with the traditional style of wheels:cool:
^^ That's pretty nice, but I've never been a fan of the "tan" color combos. Unless it was all one color and meant to match. Glad to hear you have more conservative colors in mind. Personally I'd have the top match the car and do something like "diplomat blue" or all black or all white. Also, just a suggestion, keep the stock wire wheels. They're just as flashy and full of spokes as any other, and you'll drop the jaws of both lowriders and "oem only" people.

you mean i should keep them on the car? naaaa:D dont think so man:D ima go with the traditional style of wheels:cool:I would rather see it crushed and sodomized by an elephant, before made into a lowrider.:banghead::banghead::banghead::lildevil:

yea i tink i might put 40inch wheels instead and call it a day

:lies:

What? I lost track... haha. The stock wires are traditional, or do you mean traditional lowrider wheels. If you don't want those Cadillac wires, I'll give you 20 bucks a pop. ;););)

96... I thought you said you're were gonna be simple...lol...I guess it's all relative...lol
509... your avatar sure looks like a lowrider to me... :bang2:
Oh, and I just found five dollars! ;) ......hahahahaha

What? I lost track... haha. The stock wires are traditional, or do you mean traditional lowrider wheels. If you don't want those Cadillac wires, I'll give you 20 bucks a pop. ;););)

96... I thought you said you're were gonna be simple...lol...I guess it's all relative...lol
509... your avatar sure looks like a lowrider to me... :bang2:
Oh, and I just found five dollars! ;) ......hahahahaha:banana::banana:

I dont have a clue about lowriders but it seems like too much time and money to spend doing this. I dont think that car for $300 was a bargain just because I think you could have bought one without the damage for not much more. Thats the business side talking. The upside of course is that you are saving the car from the scrapyard. Regardless, I'm sure its going to turn out nice, keep us posted.

yea lowrider traditional:thumbsup:13 7s with 155/80s that simple enough for me, o and about the wheels you would have to pay shipping also
What? I lost track... haha. The stock wires are traditional, or do you mean traditional lowrider wheels. If you don't want those Cadillac wires, I'll give you 20 bucks a pop. ;););)

96... I thought you said you're were gonna be simple...lol...I guess it's all relative...lol
509... your avatar sure looks like a lowrider to me... :bang2:
Oh, and I just found five dollars! ;) ......hahahahaha

Nice car. How many miles?? Might be worth trying to get it back in shape.

Anything else will cost you $4,000 or more and might not be as reliable as a little old lady car. Seriously.

it has about 130

Too bad you werent closer... I just got a fleetwood Coupe delegance parts car...
I know everone is going to murder me when they hear about it... but shhhhh... its tripple black.....

Too bad you werent closer... I just got a fleetwood Coupe delegance parts car...
I know everone is going to murder me when they hear about it... but shhhhh... its tripple black.....
.....is it that really cool one that was on eBay?

Oh, and 96big_body, why not go with 14s? That's still traditional, and I think they look better than 13s on the big cars. 13s are okay on a Cutlass or Regal, but they just look too small (even for a lowrider) on a Cadillac to me. Just my opinion. The light blue sounds clean, but I've seen it before. If it were mine, I'd think about a medium/dark gray metallic with black guts, maybe a black top and possibly a factory style gold kit. Just an idea. Then again, that's been done too...

pm sent

was thinking the same thing but with grey interior, idont know though i kinda like blue.that red one i posted was on 13s and looks good.....is it that really cool one that was on eBay?

Oh, and 96big_body, why not go with 14s? That's still traditional, and I think they look better than 13s on the big cars. 13s are okay on a Cutlass or Regal, but they just look too small (even for a lowrider) on a Cadillac to me. Just my opinion. The light blue sounds clean, but I've seen it before. If it were mine, I'd think about a medium/dark gray metallic with black guts, maybe a black top and possibly a factory style gold kit. Just an idea. Then again, that's been done too...

what parts do you have left? i need the pass. side door rockers and that trim that goes under the pass. side door window
Too bad you werent closer... I just got a fleetwood Coupe delegance parts car...
I know everone is going to murder me when they hear about it... but shhhhh... its tripple black.....

Actually, I noticed it was on 13s and that's what prompted my comment. Isn't there a weight limit on those little donuts? lol.

Gray on gray would look clean too. Although if I did gray on gray I'd think about doing a black canvas landau. Just to break it up and add more texture. I kinda have a thing for canvas landaus..

If you did the light blue, would you just o the interior in light gray, or what?

heres what im going for, light grey but darker blue instead, and with out the patterns, or maybe some simple ghost patterns you never know:D
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/96BIG_BODY/caddocpatterns1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/96BIG_BODY/caddocpatterns.jpg

dont know if anyone on heres seen this one before but check out the 1/4 window;) want to do something like this but dont know how complicated it may get
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/96BIG_BODY/southsideccFleezy-1.jpg

im not too sure there might be, but i love to roller skate though:thumbsup: yea ill probly do grey interior, its just something about grey interior that looks really clean, would proably end up doing a blue on the car though
Actually, I noticed it was on 13s and that's what prompted my comment. Isn't there a weight limit on those little donuts? lol.

Gray on gray would look clean too. Although if I did gray on gray I'd think about doing a black canvas landau. Just to break it up and add more texture. I kinda have a thing for canvas landaus..

If you did the light blue, would you just o the interior in light gray, or what?

dont know if anyone on heres seen this one before but check out the 1/4 window want to do something like this but dont know how complicated it may get

Never seen it before, but THATS the kind of lowrider I like! Subtly accenting the car's style while expressing further individuality. The color even looks Cadillac. Those windows are cool! I didn't even know that was possible, then again why not? It's sitting on 14s right? Looks like it from that angle at least.

Ben.

That quarter-window conversion must have been a pricey job, being completely custom. It is pretty nice! Are you sure it's worth it? Anyways, those blue ones above have the E&G grill; you're not gonna get one of those are you? They're a little oversized, and you're going for a simple look, right. As for the interior, are you doing any custom modifications, other than transferring sedan's parts? Because I think the original d'Elegance is good looking as is, and doesn't need any extra custom upholstery things. Ya know what I mean; I just don't want to see factory interior done away with. ;)

My two cents is keep the '90 grill. See these; they're not quite as gaudy as the fat grills, and look pretty sleek. :thumbsup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/towncar097/Other%20Lacs/wow.jpg

Here's another, but I don't really care for the tan. I think the gray-on-gray with a black FULL canvas top would look great.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/towncar097/Other%20Lacs/yu.jpg

Here's the full black canvas top that I like.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/Cadillac_guy/34_1.jpg

And of course, I really think this is the simplest you could go (if w/o the grill), and I like it best, but it's your car...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/towncar097/Other%20Lacs/111.jpg

yea everything is going to be simple and clean man, no grill, no custom interior, other than swithching it over to the 90s seatbelts though, but other than that is all going to be nice and simple with a few custom touches (pinstripes,or some ghost patterns)

96bigbody... here is the car.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/towncar097/85%20FWBC%202/1coupe.jpg
I just got it. I need to check my 81 and compare parts before i sell them off, as i dont want to sell something i would need. I dont see me needing any trim though, mines complete.

Take a look at my post on it, here on the forum, let me know what you think/or are looking to get.

1990Caddy... why are you parting out that triple black FWBC?? After all, they do appear to be quite rare and that one ^^ looks real nice. And what are the odds that you'd find two identical cars within such a short period. Oh wait, is this that "shot" one that you mentioned a long time ago?

PM sent 1990CaddyBrougham

i have a problem with my 90, some of you heard that my digi cluster wasnt working when i got it, but then recently i just posted a picture of it turned on, and the day before yesterday it went out again, but today i went to turn the key and it turned on again? anyone know what this might be?

anyone know what the problem might be?^^^

A short.

:D

Were?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/towncar097/Other%20Lacs/yu.jpg


That is one of the most beautiful lowriders I've ever seen. The simplicity of it is just amazing and keeps a clean low look to it. IIRC I seen that car at a lowrider show about 2-3 years ago. Just awesome. Damn... I'm gonna have to build me another one eventually.

Very nice color combination on that one...

anyone know were the short could be?

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MINES ALMOST THERE!!!!!!!:cool2:

you putting a 90s drivetrain also? looking good:thumbsup: wish i was that far, how hard was it to take the body off, weight wise? Back to my topic, just bought a little something for my fleet:cool2: 42' gold tint:cool:
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[QUOTE=96BIG_BODY;1393489] just bought a little something for my fleet:cool2: 42' gold tint:cool:
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What are you doing with the headliner? I am still deciding between a stock Cad astroroof, and a Lincoln 44":cool2:

ill probably just get one made to fit

My bad for not replying quick! But what I used to remove the body on my Cadillac was my work trucks boom, it was easy! Just make sure that you remove the brace on the body in between the driveline! That is the only thing that I missed, Its not that hard to do all this, I already put it on the new frame, wired it all up and it started right up! i just need to get it painted now! Cant wait til my income tax return gets here! I had a question about that sunroof that you have, did you get the ring that goes around the roof the stainless steel one??? I have a sunroof exactly like that but couldnt get the stainless steel part off!

so im guessing you put it on a 90s frame right, so was all the dash wiring easy to do since everythings there, all that computer wiring? No man i got the sunroof how you see it there, am i going to need the ring?

Yeah I put it on the 92' frame, everything from the 92 was used except for the body, I think the sunroof does need the ring cause thats what has the 4 bolts that hold the sunroof up, I messed up not taking it off!!!!!!!!!!

do you have a build up? you taking any pics as you go?

I learned alot about sunroofs... since i want, and will put one in my 81 coupe.

The one you have BigBody i belive came from a Lincoln correct? the 44 and 42s. The stock caddy ones were 38s i belive. THe lincoln ones dont have the stainless trim rings around the opening for the astro roofs. Th Cadillacs do. The caddy ones are easier to put in a car, because of that trim ring... You dont have to "flange" the edge. the trim ring is the flange. in mostly all other moonroofs, there is no stainless ring, the roof seals right up into the sheetmetal roof, with a flanged and re-in-foRCED EDGE... What i read is that when you install these 42's and 44's you have to cut the roof section aroudn the hole, and fit it and body work it into your car. Kinda hard to describe... but simple. Your roof doesnt have a trim ring to seal to. It seals to the roof. Its a cleaner look, but way more work. Even more when you dont have a vinyl top. Hence why i am using a factory caddy one. The facorty caddy ones you just have to cut the hole in the roof, and either re-glue or somehow bolt the roof and tray up. I will take some pics tomorrow of the caddy roof i have out of my 90 parts car.

The trim ring way is also how aftermarket roofs are installed.....
AFTERMARKET ROOF.. Cadillac similar. This one has a black trim ring.
http://stlouismtb.tripod.com/moonroof/DSC00632.jpg

Heres a car with one similar to yours, wiht no ring. See the edge of the roof?

http://automobiles.honda.com/images/2008/ridgeline/customize/RIDGE08047_mid.jpg

After you have to then run the drain tubes, wire it up ect. But thats cake.

Here is a link on Lay It Low... this guy put a factory caddy roof in his coupe... From GM the "PAN" or piece that the whole unit sits in, and that holds it to the roof, its GLUED to the sheetmetal roof of the car. I was amazed. This guy fabricated brackets and bolted it. I want to go that way..
http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=112222&st=640
The next page on that thread shows the brackets...

thank man thats the topic i was looking for, good looking out

Yahp... I have been doing alot of back reading on Lay it low.... Alot of info, just got to sort threw it all...

Ill make a step by step pic thread for the factory cad roof when i do mine...

i was washing my 4 door brougham the other day, and when i looked in the back seat there was a puddle of water on the floor! this has happened to other few cars ive had before but what causes this? pissed me off when i seen water back there i was like ****! not this one

Drain tubes. They clog. It's a real pisser isn't it?

:histeric: yea it is a real pisser, i thought someone had pissed on my rear floor:D were the drain tubes at?

but so were is it were the waters coming in form? the floor?

but so were is it were the waters coming in form? the floor?

No, drain tubes run down from the sunroof, through the pillars. If they're clogged, they leak.

But I didn't think you're Brougham had a sunroof. It could be just weatherstipping, causing water to trickle down the b-pillar, or come from behind the c-pillar at the trunk.

Greg

weres the c pillar?

i was washing my 4 door brougham the other day, and when i looked in the back seat there was a puddle of water on the floor! this has happened to other few cars ive had before but what causes this? pissed me off when i seen water back there i was like ****! not this one

No moonroof? Then I think I know what it is.

Driver's or passenger side? If passenger, it is lilkely caused by a missing/clogged drain elbow. This elbow is on the firewall and allows condensation to drip out of the cavity where the heat/AC is. If the elbow is missing, air is forced into the hole and forces water to drip into the passenger compartment.

The elbow/hole is right under the heater hoses. If it is missing, you can replace it with a length of rubber tubing and zip tie it down by the frame so it drips on the ground (the stock elbow sort of drips right on the frame).

Stick your hand in the water and smell it, though. If it is coolant, you have a blown heater core. If it is water, then what I said above applies.

I need to check that on the '89. I think I actually have two leaks. When I wash it, or it gets left out in the rain, the only part of the carpet that doesn't get wet is the drivers side rear. The passengers side rear gets about an inch of standing water, and the rest just gets damp. I'll check the drain elbow on the firewall soon, but since the moonroof was dealer installed and not factory, the drain tubes are set up a little differently in the rear, and I can't figure out how you'd gain access to an end to blow air through them. I also wonder if the windshield is leaking. Rick said it was replaced a few years ago, and last summer, when I had my '84 Cutlass's windshield replaced, I had to take it back twice because of sealing issues. Ahh, who knows. I'll get it straightened out.

Ben

No moonroof? Then I think I know what it is.

Driver's or passenger side? If passenger, it is lilkely caused by a missing/clogged drain elbow. This elbow is on the firewall and allows condensation to drip out of the cavity where the heat/AC is. If the elbow is missing, air is forced into the hole and forces water to drip into the passenger compartment.

The elbow/hole is right under the heater hoses. If it is missing, you can replace it with a length of rubber tubing and zip tie it down by the frame so it drips on the ground (the stock elbow sort of drips right on the frame).

Stick your hand in the water and smell it, though. If it is coolant, you have a blown heater core. If it is water, then what I said above applies.

cool man thanks, yea ill go and check that this weekend yea its only water, so check it through the inside, or outside?