: I'm getting bored... think I might buy another Coupe - pictures.



Benzilla
08-13-07, 02:42 PM
So, now that the Phaeton is all but finished, I have nothing to tinker on during long weekends and spare time. So I've been casually looking around for another wounded beauty to beckon. I might have found her, a Firethorn red '79 Coupe DeVille with a red interior and white landau. actually it's been sitting around for a year and a half, I drive by and think what it could look like. It's at a local redneck used car dealership, so today I stopped in and had a close look at it. Definitely rough, but do-able. If I get it cheap enough I might flip it, or just hang onto it for awhile. The guy I talked to is a Cadillac lover, so when a couple of inbreds came in a month ago asking to use it in a demo-derby he said no. But I guess he likes me or something.. anyway, said it'll start with a battery and some gas, we'll see about that. He's asking $500, but I think I might offer 3 100 bills and drive away. If it won't start, that's another story. I checked the chassis and it looks solid, the body has no real cancer, just some surface rust.

The interior is the best part, I think the leather must have been redone at some point, because it's amazingly smooth looking without a single crack. Only problem is the top of the back seat is ripped and shriveled from the sun beating down on it for years without end. But the headliner is still up, original mats, good fake wood, no wetness.

There was also a black on black '79 sitting near it, but that's waaay to far gone, the ass hole left it to sit over a year with no driver's side window... the interior is dead. But I took pics anyway.

So, the red one has - I'm guessing - 133,000 on it, and I'm attracted to it. I probably wouldn't do a full restoration, but just make it a nice car within reason.

A picture is worth 1,000 words, so I'll let these talk. It really isn't as bad as it looks, just dirty. And that isn't cancer by the landau.


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CaddyshackCadillac
08-13-07, 02:59 PM
awww thatblack one woulda been a beauty i hate seeing stupidity but the red one doesn t seem so bad i go full out red on red replace that crappy roof with a red one..........nice find tho hope all works out.........

CaddyshackCadillac
08-13-07, 03:01 PM
and jack them hubcaps from the black one while ur there lol

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-13-07, 03:29 PM
You should just change your screen name to 1979. :p

I like it, pick it up. I'm bored so I'm thinking about buyin' a Benz!

DopeStar 156
08-13-07, 03:39 PM
Go for the black one! The red one has a hole in it and the wrong seats. The black one looks better!

Benzilla
08-13-07, 03:44 PM
You haven't seen the interior on the black one....

Oh, and that isn't a hole by the landau.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/Cadillac_guy/100_0086.jpg

CaddyshackCadillac
08-13-07, 04:05 PM
^^^^^^^^^thats painfull lol hey ben i was reading some caddy reviews and came across one that i couldn t help but think was yours.........http://www.carsurvey.org/review_100809.html

Highway Star
08-13-07, 04:07 PM
I was mowing grass yesterday and coming down the road was a '79 Phaeton. It was in pretty rough shape, but it was movin' on at around 60mph. Same color as yours Ben, but the paint was pretty much shot. I gave the guy a thumbs up as he sped on by. :thumbsup:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-13-07, 04:17 PM
^^^^^^^^^thats painfull lol hey ben i was reading some caddy reviews and came across one that i couldn t help but think was yours.........http://www.carsurvey.org/review_100809.html


That is Ben, read the comments.

Benzilla
08-13-07, 04:23 PM
Haha, yeah that's my review.

Cool that you saw a Phaeton, I've only seen one other than mine in person, a beat-to-shit silver '78 with 250,000 and still going strong towing a boat for it's master.

I really like the red & white, I'll probably keep it those colors. Kinda reminds me of Christine... I'll have to get a '78-'79 California plate with CQB-241 on it.

I'm getting serious with that red one, I'm going by tomorrow to start it and work something out. I get the feeling a lot of you don't quite see it in the light that I do, but I'll make her shine again, with some of these as my motivation.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/Cadillac_guy/78cdv.jpg
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http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/Cadillac_guy/P6.jpg

I actually created a whole file for red tri-year coupes on my computer. I think it's really a striking combo.

CaddyshackCadillac
08-13-07, 04:30 PM
lol your pasion is like mine ever since ive settled on finding a early 80's coupe every day thats all i been looking at i finally found a brown on brown velour that ill be grabbing at the beginning of september...with plans of painting her black with brown halfroof and doing a brown and black interior in leather she only has 105 doesn t burn oil and is costing me 900.00 plus its a 1 owner

CaddymanTom
08-13-07, 04:32 PM
I like em both. Maybe you should offer 5 bills for both of them. I then you could have your black with the red interior. I am looking for a 76 Fleetwood sedan to go with my new 76 Fleetwood C stillion wagon

urbanski
08-13-07, 04:38 PM
she's rotting :(
save her!

SOS

Benzilla
08-13-07, 04:41 PM
Caddyshack - that brown & black sounds sharp! Then you need to buy a Doberman and have him lay by it at shows.

CaddymanTom - that's not a bad idea, except he doesn't want to sell the black one for a reasonable price. Plus if I wanted a black & red one I could get one in mint condition right now for $5,500, and that would just make more sense. But I need something I can tinker on, yet not fully restore. Ahh I don't know, I just like it!

BRICKS
08-13-07, 05:28 PM
yeah the red one is deffinately the better buy. the black one needs to be tore down and donated to other lacs that need the parts! good find.

jayoldschool
08-13-07, 05:32 PM
Ben, that rust under the landau will be a hole by the time you get the vinyl off and get it ground down. Not a difficult fix for a competent body shop, which you have a good connection at.

So, it needs:
- fillers
- body
- paint
- new top
- rear bumper
- steering wheel (?)
- hubcaps (from the black one)
- tires (D IVs, no doubt)

Maybe three grand total (if you use the same shop). Sounds worth it to me...

Jason.

Benzilla
08-13-07, 05:42 PM
You and I are on the same channel, lol.

I think there might be enough metal left under there to grind down without having a hole, it looks like a newer problem that hasn't been sitting too long, to me. And yeah, I could probably get all the bodywork done and a niiice paint job for under $1,500 going with the same guy that did my Phaeton. A new top around here runs about $500, decent rear bumper for maybe $200, the steering wheel is fine, just dirty, guy probably wouldn't sell me those caps, maybe dopestar? Tires on there will do for now, but will probably be replaced within a year. So yeah, not that bad.

.... just gotta make sure it'll run first.

jayoldschool
08-13-07, 06:03 PM
It'll run, no problem. Just pour some fresh gas (a trickle) down the carb, and it will light off right off right away. I do this with my carb cars when I start them in the spring, and they start within 2 seconds of key turn. It is hard for a mechanical pump to bring gas all the way from the tank. As soon as you start it, check the carb to make sure the float isn't stuck.

Benzilla
08-13-07, 06:14 PM
Yeah, I'm just a little worried that the gas has turned, I mean a year and a half is a long time.

I'm grateful that I also have a mechanic that works miracles with quadrajets, this thing will purr soon enough.

CaddyshackCadillac
08-13-07, 06:20 PM
how much gas is in there? im sure a lil additive wouldn t hurt lol......i gotta say tho this is a good buy for you cuz if i had the phaeton it would be glaring me in the face to drive it daily so if u can get this to respectable condition but be able to beat it up i say go for it ........

Benzilla
08-13-07, 06:38 PM
I'm not sure how much is in there, didn't check. But I hope he was smart enough not to park it with a damn full tank. Right now I have my '90 Brougham, and '84 Cutlass Supreme to cruise around in, both of which are near perfect condition and shiny, so I'm not hurting for a driver lol, but I see what you're saying. It would be fun to have a classic driver with a big block.

This is what I drive around town in right now, I love the ol' girl. Been in the family since '84 and has a new engine, been garaged too. It would be nice to relieve it of daily duties.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/Cadillac_guy/100_1460.jpg

Destroyer
08-13-07, 08:31 PM
Back in '88 I bought a blue '80 or '81 Eldorado (I forget) that had a blown motor (4-6-8 junk) for like $400. Remember, it was only 8 or so years old and in great shape other than the motor. Anyway my buddy Gary was a mechanic and had his own shop. He calls me up and tells me he found a motor for the Eldorado but it was in a '79 coupe that was rear ended. It was a red one with white top and white interior with red carpets. A creampuff with under 20k miles but obvioiusly had a rear end collision. I bought that car for $200 for the motor. We put that RWD 425 into the FWD Eldorado. Car ran beatiful except we overlooked something vital. The oil filter locations were different between the two motors and the 425's oil filter rubbed against the Eldorado's frame and caused it to blow a hole in the filter while I was on the Long Island Expressway. After all that work, I had just blown the motor. Oh well, pics of this red one reminded me of that experience. :thumbsup:

96Fleetwood
08-13-07, 09:50 PM
I am loving the Cutlass! That is pretty rare with the matching body colored rally wheels. Keep that thing!


I always liked the '87 Cutlass "442" with the "Euro" front clip. They are starting to bring big $$$ but nothing Buick GN like.

Destroyer
08-13-07, 10:36 PM
I am loving the Cutlass! That is pretty rare with the matching body colored rally wheels. Keep that thing!


I always liked the '87 Cutlass "442" with the "Euro" front clip. They are starting to bring big $$$ but nothing Buick GN like.This gets me in the mood to post up some pics of my old Cutlass's, my '84 was originally a V6 but I took care of that with a built 355. The '84 had very low miles, around 50k if I remember right and my '67 was creme yellow with a 330 and a powerglide till I got it and put in a 468 Olds w/th400. It was a mid 12 second car. These pics were before I was in my Caddy phase and they were in my very first house in '98:

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z251/AstrocreepVIII/misc/84Olds4passengerside.jpg
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http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z251/AstrocreepVIII/misc/67and66res.jpg

ted tcb
08-13-07, 11:10 PM
I love your Cutlass'

I have a dark green 1971 Supreme convertible.

The most pampered car in Orillia ... has her own two car garage, and gets
driven only on the sunniest weekend jaunts.

ted tcb
08-13-07, 11:38 PM
More pics.

I'm the third owner.
Purchased in 1995.
I enjoy driving it more than any of my STS's, if the top is down.

With the top up, its just another old car ... but on a sunny day,
its a whole different car.

ted tcb
08-13-07, 11:39 PM
Last one, before I switched over to new whitewall tires.

eldorado99
08-14-07, 12:02 AM
Ben why don't you go after a mid 70's Caddy like a nice big Deville or Fleetwood with a 500? You've done the 77-79 thing, you've done the 80's Cads, why not try something else? Of course if thats what you really want to do then by all means go for it! I'd love to see you get your detailing hands on a '76 Deville (Especially a Talisman).

77CDV
08-14-07, 12:13 AM
Good luck with the new project if you decide to go for it, Ben. Glad there's someone out there that has the time! lol

Craig

Night Wolf
08-14-07, 06:58 AM
Ben why don't you go after a mid 70's Caddy like a nice big Deville or Fleetwood with a 500? You've done the 77-79 thing, you've done the 80's Cads, why not try something else? Of course if thats what you really want to do then by all means go for it! I'd love to see you get your detailing hands on a '76 Deville (Especially a Talisman).

Kinda the same boat as me with this '77 thats local...

I'd much rather something a bit older....

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-14-07, 11:38 AM
I'd much rather something a bit older....

Well buy something a bit older than! lol! Don't just buy it because it's there. Hold out a bit and get somethin' you really want....like a '68! Besides, you've already had one 77-79 RWD Caddy, and IMO, 1979 is a lot better than 1977, and you've already got the '89.

DopeStar 156
08-14-07, 01:11 PM
^^Not a bad idea....

Wheelman322
08-14-07, 01:54 PM
Glad to see i'm not the only one with this disease....(says the man with 7 cars in his driveway).

Benzilla
08-14-07, 02:00 PM
I know I've done the '77-'79 thing, but I really love these cars. I've thought about a mid-'70s Coupe, but I just haven't found the right one, and I'm not officially looking for another car right now, but this one is just sitting in my lap and I see something in it. I really like the mid-'70s, but they don't 'click' the same way '79s do with me.

Anyway, today I was being a dumb ass and hurt my hand, so I decided to hold off about a week until I can fully use it again, I can't have that coupe sitting around here with no way to do stuff to it, I'd go crazy. Plus now I can make better plans about storage and get things in order.

Cadillac_Fan
08-14-07, 02:01 PM
Ben -

Would love to see you work your magic on that red '79 DeVille. You've breathed life into some exceptional Cadillacs, and that one could use your help before someone butchers her up for a rat rod/derby car.

I agree with you on your assessment of the black one; it is a lost cause and of not much value other than its parts. The interior is beyond shot, and who knows what electrical nightmares lurk beneath the dash & instrument panel as all of the components/contacts/relays were exposed to excessive moisture and the elements. (How unfortunate and amazing that the clown didn't at least have the sense to throw a $5 poly tarp over it.) Oh well, we'll never understand why folks do what they do...

Barring a siezed-up engine, I vote that you should get it. I don't think it would be an insult to offer him $250-$300.

BRICKS
08-14-07, 04:34 PM
[QUOTE=I~LUV~Caddys8792;1177630]and IMO, 1979 is a lot better than 1977, QUOTE]
?? please elaborate your opinion. the grills on the 77 look better than the 78 or 79 as well as the split tail lights. having a 77, 78 and 79 i deffinately preffer my 77. only thing to be desired is the pillow top seats that were in my d' elegance.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-14-07, 07:09 PM
As for the 1979, I like the finer mesh grille more, the closed tail lights, and I never really liked the steering wheel the 1977's used, but that's a minor thing.

BRICKS
08-14-07, 07:16 PM
no doubt. i like the 77 grill but would rather have the castle grill most of all. not sure of the diff wit the steering wheels at the moment, could you post up some pics for example?

Highway Star
08-14-07, 09:00 PM
no doubt. i like the 77 grill but would rather have the castle grill most of all. not sure of the diff wit the steering wheels at the moment, could you post up some pics for example?

Here's the wheel in my '79, I think they started that style in '78. As to the differences in grilles/t-lights on '77-'79 models, each are nice in their own way.

CaddyshackCadillac
08-14-07, 09:39 PM
http://i17.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/ae/c3/7daf_12.JPG

heres one from a 77

77CDV
08-14-07, 10:21 PM
77 and 78 interiors are identical except for the seat pattern. Steering wheels are the same for both years with 79 odd man out.

DopeStar 156
08-15-07, 02:23 AM
Which was the first to have the electronic digital clock? 78 or 79?

CoupedeVille'73
08-15-07, 07:12 AM
and jack them hubcaps from the black one while ur there lol
wires...
as I said in the poll-thread...
wires on a coupe
awesome
:thumbsup:

Wheelman322
08-15-07, 12:47 PM
Which was the first to have the electronic digital clock? 78 or 79?

79 was the first year for the digital radio clock standard. 78 had an optional digital radio, but I have yet to find one anywhere. The 79 steering wheel was an all new style that lasted all the way up to 92. 77-78 had a straight centerpiece.

BRICKS
08-16-07, 02:09 PM
who preffers the inside door closers of the 77? i like the ones in my 78 d' elegance better with the wood handle. anyone still have the strap ones that arent ripped off or sagging?

77CDV
08-16-07, 08:36 PM
I do...:)

Benzilla
08-26-07, 07:33 PM
Update.

Looks like it'll probably happen. I went and looked at it again today as I was bored, so he wasn't there being Sunday and all. But I looked at it closely and I really want to just dig in and start working! About the bumper fillers; I've got it covered. When I had the Phaeton redone I installed new fillers just so I wouldn't have to think about it later, but once the old ones were off, they turned out to be in much stronger condition than I might have thought. So right now I have a perfectly usable set of bumper fillers sitting in a box in my basement. All they need is matching paint, and they'll go on! The exhaust resonator is gone. It looks like somebody cut it out. umm, what exactly does it do anyway? Just muffle more? I still need to find a set of wheel covers. If Dopestar reads this, I want to know if he still has the set that came off his '76. I've been checking eBay also. The only thing is, new siding is going on the house starting Tuesday, so I won't have any place to work on the car until next weekend. So I still might wait a while, but borrowing any major unforeseen problems (the trunk smells like bodies..) I'm planning on it.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-26-07, 07:36 PM
Random question, but Ben, where do you work?

Benzilla
08-26-07, 08:05 PM
lol, well I have been working at a detailing place that does cars for the local ford dealership, stuff I like doing, and pretty good pay for a college age kid. But I had some cash saved up which I will be using now, and this year is serving as a break before I decide what to do about college. So cars are taking all of my extra time and money. Plus having the Sentra is saving me a ton on gas.