: Pics of my bubble wagon...



96Fleetwood
08-04-07, 11:23 PM
I sold the '86 Pontiac Safari wagon to another enthusiast, going to miss it!

I ended up buying a '93 Caprice Classic Wagon with every option including factory cd player, dual power seats, etc. etc.

Not sure if I like this one yet... going to drive it for a bit and might sell it for a WB4 Roadmaster wagon.

I got 28 mpg coming from Indianapolis to Chicago!

Here are a few pictures from when I bought it:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/e992_3.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/2679_3.jpg

Here are a few pictures as of today, 9C1 wheels with 255/60/15s and some SS treatment. After all, it is Dark Green Grey!

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/capricewagon3.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/capricewagon2.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/capricefleetwood2.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/capricefleetwood.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/capricewagon1.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/IMG_8328.jpg

It drives nice, but does not feel as solid as the '86 wagon. The 5.0 liter TBI is a great runner.

We will see how long this one lasts ;)...

Take care,
Elias

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-05-07, 12:01 AM
Holy christ, 28 to the gallon! What's the interior like?

Red_October_7000
08-05-07, 04:38 AM
Nice Shamu!
As I understand there was actually a 9C1 wagon... talk about a sleeper; reminds me of a story my dad tells of a guy he knew who ordered up an Impala wagon with all the options that would otherwise make up an Impala SS, but it just looked like a normal Impala station wagon... the guy put an "AMF" decal on it, and the car could back it up!

96Fleetwood
08-05-07, 08:38 AM
It has the top of the line interior, very plush.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/capricewagon4.jpg

:thumbsup:


I think the older style boxy wagons were built better. These newer wagons have too much plastic that squeaks...

I will miss my Safari wagon.. it was so clean....

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/sixtyspecial/Picture030.jpg

pimpin88
08-05-07, 10:57 AM
I really like the looks of the '93 now that you have the 9C1 wheels and the Impala grill. Looks pretty awesome. What are the things that you liked better about the boxy besides the squeaking plastic?

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-05-07, 11:12 AM
The thing I always liked about the 91-93 Caprice Classics were the seats, especially the cloth ones. They just look so soft and comfortable! They definetly had the advantage over the 94-96's in that realm, but the 94-96's had a MUCH better dashboard/instrument panel design.

caddycruiser
08-05-07, 06:05 PM
I think the older style boxy wagons were built better. These newer wagons have too much plastic that squeaks...

I will miss my Safari wagon.. it was so clean....



Yes!! Though I'm still not a huge fan of the old box models, the Caprice and Roadmaster (at least the '91-93 models of the Buick, which later got much better) just had terrible hard yet flimsy plastic pieces all over inside that do nothing but warp, get looser, and squeak and creak constantly. Yet, at the same time, the Caprice and Roadmaster structures in my experience feel fairly stout. Case in point, my father's '92 Roadmaster feels and sounds like an absolute tank with inch thick steel rolling down the road despite 200k miles, only detracted from by those darn prototyp'ish door panels and such making sounds.

Contrary to the Fleetwood of the same 90's vintage (two here and others test driven and looked at...so...I sort of concluded they're all like this), had much better plastics and such inside that fit together better and were mostly quiet, but have a generally weaker and flimsier feel to the structure than the shorter models. Actually, it's not true, but that's just what it feels like, both from the feel of doors and body noises over bumps, and all the barn-built exterior trim. Despite lower miles, neither of ours has the same structural beefiness feel that the Buick seems to. But that's just me.

Still, great cars, just clearly from some of the bad years at GM as far as build quality and materials. Bring them into modern day, with similar simple mechanicals and performance, but "modern" GM high-end refinement and finish, and they'd be spectacular.

...oh, and I was WONDERING what happened to that pristine Pontiac! All of a sudden I saw the Caprice pop up in yours sigs and had a...:hmm:...moment. Now we know the story.

urbanski
08-05-07, 06:40 PM
i like the FWB better :)

96Fleetwood
08-05-07, 06:55 PM
i like the FWB better :)


Me too, which is why the Fleetwood stays protected in the garage while the wagon is driven through the jungle called Chicago!


Speaking of the Fleetwood, I got 2nd place in another show today!! :)


The old boxy wagon felt solid but was way underpowered and felt very archaic. The seats were hard unlike the '93 which has very comfortable seats.

I think the boxy wagon had a little more cargo room, but the '93 has the tailgate that swings or lays flat along with the flip up window.


Overall, the newer wagon fits my needs better and I won't have to deal with a carb'd car.

Take care!

-Elias :thumbsup:

JimHare
08-05-07, 09:07 PM
My '93 C/C wagon seems to be fine too - there's a thread about it around 3 weeks back when I bought it.. Mine's white with with blue interior and the woody sides. My plastic interior pieces are all fine, with the exception of the right pillar piece at the tailgate - missing a screw so it's loose...guess I'll have to make a trip to Advance for some.

Miles? What did you pay for it? I got mine on eBay for $1625.

96Fleetwood
08-05-07, 10:00 PM
Yours looks good! I did not want a "woody" after my '86 wagon. I also jumped on this one because it is a Impala SS color ;)

After I sold the 20 inch wheels it came with... I got it for $1,300 dollars.

It was a 1 owner car and has 122,000 miles. New tranny at 80K miles. Mechanically it is perfect.

I just ordered a new set of Monroe shocks for it :thumbsup:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-05-07, 10:13 PM
What's the plan with this one? Use it for a while or flip it for profit?

JimHare
08-06-07, 06:26 AM
Nice looking car, Elias, BTW...you got yours for a D/D, I got mine for the occasional weekend Home Depot run, emergency 3rd car, etc etc..only put about 200 miles on it so far, in a month. I'm not looking to make much in the way of mods or anything, just keep it running as long as possible. I'd say we both got good deals.

70eldo
08-06-07, 07:56 AM
Congrats!
Now you have a hearse and a follow car :D

96Fleetwood
08-06-07, 04:49 PM
Congrats!
Now you have a hearse and a follow car :D

Actually I am still looking for a '96 Fleetwood Black Hearse.. trust me, if I find one for a reasonable price I am going to buy it and turn it into a Fleetwood Wagon!

70eldo
08-07-07, 01:09 AM
Actually I am still looking for a '96 Fleetwood Black Hearse.. trust me, if I find one for a reasonable price I am going to buy it and turn it into a Fleetwood Wagon!

That sounds like a cool project! :thumbsup:
Imagine the cruize! :rolleyes:

96Fleetwood
08-07-07, 07:15 AM
That sounds like a cool project! :thumbsup:
Imagine the cruize! :rolleyes:

The nice thing about the Fleetwood hearse is I could easily min tub the rear and fit a set of 17X13 inch wheels in the back... mmmm... one day!

EcSTSatic
08-07-07, 08:32 AM
I'd like to know what kind of mileage you guys get with the wagons. I'd like to replace my Aerostar with something more comfortable that will still tow my sailboat.

Cadillacboy
08-07-07, 11:06 AM
Nice car , enjoy it

FWB rules the best !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

96Fleetwood
08-07-07, 01:32 PM
I'd like to know what kind of mileage you guys get with the wagons. I'd like to replace my Aerostar with something more comfortable that will still tow my sailboat.

I am getting 17-18 in the city and got 28 mpg on the highway from Indy to Chicago (going 60-65 mph). :thumbsup: Then again, I have the 5.0 liter L03 motor in mine.

pimpin88
08-07-07, 01:36 PM
I am getting 17-18 in the city and got 28 mpg on the highway from Indy to Chicago (going 60-65 mph). :thumbsup: Then again, I have the 5.0 liter L03 motor in mine.


I get about the same although I have a sedan and it is slightly lighter. It is an L05 5.7 liter, 3.08 rear end. 65-70 I average 25-26 mpg.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-07-07, 01:59 PM
How about a video of some acceleration runs in the wagon Elias? Or in your Roadmaster Andrew?

EcSTSatic
08-07-07, 02:19 PM
Thanks for the mileage info. The best I've ever done in the Aero was 24 highway. Looks like the wagon is still a good candidate.

96Fleetwood
08-07-07, 02:31 PM
How about a video of some acceleration runs in the wagon Elias? Or in your Roadmaster Andrew?

Hmmm, maybe? Not sure about that one...

96Fleetwood
08-21-07, 09:40 PM
Just put some Impala SS wheels, Monroe Severe Service shocks all around, new brakes, and a few other goodies. Man, she is starting to feel great!
Here is a quick shot in our garage.. I will detail her this weekend and take better pics:


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture184.jpg


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture183.jpg


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture182.jpg

pimpin88
08-22-07, 06:28 AM
Lookin sweet Elias! I'll have to see what I can do about the videos Chad.

96Fleetwood
08-22-07, 07:39 AM
Thanks Andrew. Isn't it funny how a set of SS wheels can make all the difference in the world.

Destroyer
08-22-07, 01:10 PM
Almost bought one of those before I got my van. Looks sweet the SS wheels.:thumbsup:

pimpin88
08-22-07, 02:47 PM
Thanks Andrew. Isn't it funny how a set of SS wheels can make all the difference in the world.

Yea, it makes a HUGE difference. I was just looking at pictures of my Roadmaster before I did anything to it (SS wheels and springs, and new tint). It really looks bad. I am dreading taking the SS wheels off for winter. I love the look and the way they handle compared to the stock 15 inch steelies.

96Fleetwood
09-02-07, 04:29 PM
A few more pictures. I spent all day yesterday prepping, priming, and painting the front and rear bumper on the wagon. I turned my girl's parents garage into a paint booth, haha! Also tinted the taillights. I have gotten so many compliments on the wagon so far.. and it is my inexpensive daily driver:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture191-1.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture192-1.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture193.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture195.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture196.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/Picture197.jpg

I am working on finding a good muffler shop to put true dual exhaust on the wagon and to tint the rear windows. I ripped the old tint off because it was horrible.

Take care and have a great holiday weekend!
-Elias

I~LUV~Caddys8792
09-02-07, 06:06 PM
Your pictures rock. :drool:

slk230mb
09-02-07, 07:00 PM
Dear Elias,

Please come and detail/photograph my Escalade.

Sincerely,

Steve

P.S. - I'll feed you well.

96Fleetwood
09-02-07, 07:09 PM
Dear Elias,

Please come and detail/photograph my Escalade.

Sincerely,

Steve

P.S. - I'll feed you well.


Haha! Thanks. Next time I am in NYC, I might take you up on that :D

AMGoff
09-02-07, 09:15 PM
Great wagon! If you could find yourself a loaded, low mileage Roadmaster I would go for it! You would get an interior that would basically be right out of a FWB and plus you'd get that awesome full-width, second row "skylight" (as far as I know the Caprice didn't have them, though I could be wrong). If Cadillac would have made a station wagon back in the 90s it would have pretty much been the Roadmaster.

There have been a couple times where I have toyed with the idea of taking a Roadmaster wagon and swapping out the front clip with one from a Fleetwood... although getting the vertical taillamps + the fins to flow smoothly with the rest of the rear would take a little more body work than I'm capable of. Still even with just the Fleetwood front it would make for one hell of wagon, it would just have to be the loaded Roadmaster with the leather and all the goodies :yup:

96Fleetwood
09-03-07, 08:49 AM
Thanks!

I have a coupe ideas...

1) Find a '94-96 Fleetwood Hearse in Black and convert it to a wagon

2) Find a '94-96 WB4 Roadmaster Wagon in Black and make it a "SS" wagon

... till then I will keep this Dark Green Gray Metallic wagon. It gets the job done and you would be surprised how little I have invested in it since I did all the work myself :thumbsup:

Playdrv4me
09-03-07, 02:55 PM
Sharp car Elias.

I'm not a fan of the bubble roadmasters as they just look ridiculously porky with the dual roofs, but that flat sporty coloring and SS wheels on the Caprice completely turn it into somethin else! Great work.

96Fleetwood
09-03-07, 03:42 PM
Thanks!

That is really the main reason why I bought this wagon, because it was a Impala SS color, DGGM.. a beautiful color in person.

I just bought another muscle car last night. I will post pics and details tomorrow ;)

I~LUV~Caddys8792
09-03-07, 05:04 PM
I just bought another muscle car last night. I will post pics and details tomorrow ;)


3rd gen Trans AM GTA?! Do tell!

96Fleetwood
09-03-07, 07:08 PM
3rd gen Trans AM GTA?! Do tell!

Close.. very close... I PM'd you what it is.. but will put a thread up tomorrow with the details.

Destroyer
09-03-07, 07:43 PM
Thanks!

That is really the main reason why I bought this wagon, because it was a Impala SS color, DGGM.. a beautiful color in person.

I just bought another muscle car last night. I will post pics and details tomorrow ;)Caprice is looking good man. Cant wait to see what you bought next. I'm putting my '95 Mark VIII up for sale tomorrow and I'll be looking for a muscle car/drag car soon!. :D

96Fleetwood
09-05-07, 09:16 AM
Thanks!

I had a bought a 1987 Cutlass 442 and sold it three days later. :thumbsup: It was a nice car, but man.. these G bodies sure do feel cheap inside. The doors were sooo heavy and do not close with any finesse whatsoever. Maybe this one was just worn out? Either way it had a nicely built 350 and sounded great. I hope that stock 200r tranny lasts for the new owner... it was showing some signs of dying at WOT. The previous owner should have put a TH400 or 700r4 with the 350 swap.