: Test drove a SRT-8 Cherokee...



Poopie D
07-26-07, 07:10 PM
Test drove a brand new 07 SRT-8 cherokee today...I thought it would be a little more practical than my V for my kids. Here are my thoughts:

Very dissapointed! I expected so much more from this vehicle. The fit and finish was horrible with no real special accents that you would expect from a specialty vehicle. In a nutshell, my likes and dislikes:

Disliked:

- Cheap feeling plastic EVREYWHERE! You guys complain about our interior! Cheap feeling steering wheel, shifter, e brake and plastic door handles. Even the seat inserts felt cheap. Piller handles had poor fitting screw covers that came off while I drove.

- No special interior special touches like srt-8 door sills or badging

- Rough ride

- Top heavy, mushy handling was not even close to my V with fg2

- Auto trans did not really make for any fun...power was there but did not give the same rush as my V.

- $4000 Gas Guzzler tax (new to Canada this year!)

Liked:

- Exterior looks/styling

- Supportive seats

- Bluetooth, Back up camera, rear DVD and overall electronic options

All in all, I left the dealership very happy with my V and enjoyed the 40 minute drive home! I understand that they are very different vehicles but I still expected more than what I saw. If you had to get a SUV, it may be an OK choice but to replace the V, z06 or any other performance car would be a no go imho!

P.S. They only offered me $23,000 for my 05 with 24,000 miles on it against a price of $62,000 (cdn, tax incl) for the Cherokee! :bighead:

VCAT
07-26-07, 09:35 PM
P.S. They only offered me $23,000 for my 05 with 24,000 miles on it against a price of $62,000 (cdn, tax incl) for the Cherokee! :bighead:

That would have been about the time I said HA nice try.:thepan:

caddycruiser
07-26-07, 11:40 PM
Yeah, they're actually quite good vehicles, but you hit the nail on the head with one thing...the interior quality, and even looks, as with so many current Chrysler products, is AWFUL.

If they improved just one thing, it should be to revise the interior look and then completely re-build it out of solid, quality (some padded, some firm, nice textures and trim, etc.) materials throughout. Enough of the hard as rocks generic tupperware stuff that fits together poorly and usually makes more noise than anything else.

Otherwise, really a ran of the SRT-8...they're just cool, if honestly, a bit more than most people want to pony up for.

ryneV
07-27-07, 02:36 AM
Why would you be comparing the V to an SRT8 SUV? Did you really think it would handle better and accelarate better? Well, I know one thing, it will holeshot a V from light to light.

Blackout
07-27-07, 08:57 AM
Why would you be comparing the V to an SRT8 SUV? Did you really think it would handle better and accelarate better? Well, I know one thing, it will holeshot a V from light to light.

Not only that but they would give a CTS-V a run for it's money stock for stock

ryneV
07-27-07, 11:00 AM
Not only that but they would give a CTS-V a run for it's money stock for stock


Let's look at the price....... How does GM come up with a sticker for the V at over 50k from a regular CTS?? Old LS6 & LS2 engines, old T56, crap rear, bigger rims and brakes..... and they charge how much for all that??

I'm not defending Mopar, but you should be comparing a SRT Charger or 300 to the V. If you do, the V loses on price vs. performance alone.

Silver Dollar
07-27-07, 11:32 AM
...I'm not defending Mopar, but you should be comparing a SRT Charger or 300 to the V. .....

I did.

That's why I'm driving a CTS-V.

Nuff said.

Lock the thread.

JimmyH
07-27-07, 12:10 PM
that thing is rated 12/15 mpg! I thought the V was bad at 15/23...

it might be fast, but its still an SUV. SRT=Silly Racing Truck.

Sandy
07-27-07, 03:30 PM
Ya but, when it snows outside a good 7 inches and the plows did a lousey job, the SRT-8 G.C. is gonna get where ya wanna go, alot better & safer than the CTS-V. (Depends where ya live, though. and How badly you MUST be at work.)

JimmyH
07-27-07, 03:33 PM
not on the tires it comes with, F1 supercar I think? same as the V.

Destroyer
07-27-07, 05:39 PM
Ya but, when it snows outside a good 7 inches and the plows did a lousey job, the SRT-8 G.C. is gonna get where ya wanna go, alot better & safer than the CTS-V.
So would an old 4WD Blazer. Whats your point?.

CVP33
07-27-07, 06:20 PM
So would an old 4WD Blazer. Whats your point?.

I believe that the point was that a blazer can't do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, 12.9 second quarter mile runs and a top speed of 155mph. The Jeep SRT8 is an all weather performer with sports car performance. I believe that would be the point. A true SPORT Utility Vehicle vs. a Utility Vehicle.

JimmyH
07-27-07, 11:02 PM
I believe that the point was that a blazer can't do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, 12.9 second quarter mile runs and a top speed of 155mph. The Jeep SRT8 is an all weather performer with sports car performance. I believe that would be the point. A true SPORT Utility Vehicle vs. a Utility Vehicle.

yeah, but will the Jeep's suspension hold? I broke one (at the subframe) without breaking a sweat.

Good to see ya C! Glad to see Urb hasn't driven you completely away :thumbsup: haha

Blackout
07-29-07, 01:08 PM
Let's look at the price....... How does GM come up with a sticker for the V at over 50k from a regular CTS?? Old LS6 & LS2 engines, old T56, crap rear, bigger rims and brakes..... and they charge how much for all that??I'm not really following you on this. If anything it sounds like your putting down the CTS-V because it's using old stuff instead of all new stuff. But at the same time I'm not comparing the two to each other I'm just saying that in a drag race it would be neck and neck between the two

Blackout
07-29-07, 01:11 PM
yeah, but will the Jeep's suspension hold? I broke one (at the subframe) without breaking a sweat.lol......I think the SRT-8's suspension is just a tiny bit better then then stock GC's suspension. Kinda like how the CTS-V's is just a tiny bit better then a stock CTS. But if you meant for off roading then you bought the wrong SUV for that then. I think the CTS-V and the SRT-8 might be at a stailmate when it comes to their off roading capabilities

JimmyH
07-29-07, 10:22 PM
yeah, I dont think the SRT8 is at all fit for off-roading, even if you replace the supercar tires with something more to the task. but the one I broke was a mid 90's laredo, and I NEVER even took it off road. i just remember being like :wtf:

you know, the laredo I had was a V8, dont remember the power, but it was no slouch. I embarassed a mustang 5.0 once who wasnt payin attention.

Playdrv4me
07-30-07, 12:45 AM
We've got a 2002 Dinan Performance Package X5 4.6iS pushing somewhere around 369hp and Id gladly give up the slight numbers difference between the two trucks for the X5's *vastly* superior fit, finish and handling, even if it is built in SC. The SRT8 looks impressive from the outside, but thats about it.

The CTS-V is obviously in an entirely different class, but so much more car overall.

Mallet-V
08-01-07, 11:28 AM
I bought a Trailblazer SS for its winter capabilities. I looked at the Jeeps, but their aftermarket isn't very good. Plus I like having the LS2. I'm very confident that my SS will beat 95% of the Jeep Srt's right now and its all bolt ons so far. Its not as fun as driving the V, but I'll bet that it will beat 95% of the V's in the quarter by next spring.

JimmyH
08-01-07, 11:44 AM
I bought a Trailblazer SS for its winter capabilities. I looked at the Jeeps, but their aftermarket isn't very good. Plus I like having the LS2. I'm very confident that my SS will beat 95% of the Jeep Srt's right now and its all bolt ons so far. Its not as fun as driving the V, but I'll bet that it will beat 95% of the V's in the quarter by next spring.

ah, but will it take a 100ft radius expressway exit ramp at 60mph? sub-13 sec 1/4's are a youthful exhilaration only, and frankly, nowadays, too easy for anyone to get their hands on. i like my exit/entrance ramps, SUVs dont.

Blackout
08-01-07, 01:15 PM
I bought a Trailblazer SS for its winter capabilities. I looked at the Jeeps, but their aftermarket isn't very good. Plus I like having the LS2. I'm very confident that my SS will beat 95% of the Jeep Srt's right now and its all bolt ons so far. Its not as fun as driving the V, but I'll bet that it will beat 95% of the V's in the quarter by next spring.There is more support for the LS2 due to it being in the GTO's and Corvette's but if it wasn't for those it would have as good of aftermarket for it as the SRT-8 does but even so the SRT-8 does have a decent aftermarket out there. I suggest looking up the SRT-8 Hennessey package. In the words of Borat, "WOW WOW WEE WOW!!!"

Nevermind I did it for you http://videos.streetfire.net/video/bc2d421c-b3d9-4418-8a9e-98430102514f.htm

Mallet-V
08-01-07, 06:25 PM
There is more support for the LS2 due to it being in the GTO's and Corvette's but if it wasn't for those it would have as good of aftermarket for it as the SRT-8 does but even so the SRT-8 does have a decent aftermarket out there. I suggest looking up the SRT-8 Hennessey package. In the words of Borat, "WOW WOW WEE WOW!!!"

Nevermind I did it for you http://videos.streetfire.net/video/bc2d421c-b3d9-4418-8a9e-98430102514f.htm

Hennessey is a joke. Buy his stuff and you better pray to god that he actually comes through with it. With the scams he has pulled, I'm amazed anyone would give him recognition. For every fast Jeep you'll find five Trailblazers. They do have an aftermarket but it doesn't show the gains of the LS2. Many of their owners have actually gotten slower after mods. Their tunes are just starting to show minimal gains, like .1-.2 in the quarter.

They come very strong from the factory and I love the looks. I'll probably get my wife one after her Denali.

Blackout
08-01-07, 06:48 PM
Hennessey is a joke. Buy his stuff and you better pray to god that he actually comes through with it. With the scams he has pulled, I'm amazed anyone would give him recognition. For every fast Jeep you'll find five Trailblazers. They do have an aftermarket but it doesn't show the gains of the LS2. Many of their owners have actually gotten slower after mods. Their tunes are just starting to show minimal gains, like .1-.2 in the quarter.

They come very strong from the factory and I love the looks. I'll probably get my wife one after her Denali.

Believe me, I would never actually tell someone to give their money to that dirt bag but at the same time the stuff he does decide to do does come out nice. I've been hanging out with the SRT crowd for the better part of 4 years now. I've seen and heard it all about that douche. My only issues with the TB SS is when you get in it there really isn't anything about it that makes you feel that you have the crem de la crem for that vehicle and the white faced gauges for the rpm but nothing else is stupid looking as well and the interior is flat black, atleast on the SRT-8 they have some trim pieces that make it looks more upscale then compared to the TB SS. My only other issue is the tranny. 4 speed automatic? Toss in a T-56 option or atleast give it a 5 or 6 speed automatic and after test driving one it gave me downshifts when I didn't want them and when I did want them it didn't give them to me so the tranny needs a lot of attention IMO. But hey if you bought one then obviously that was the vehicle for you and at the end of the day you drive what you like

Mallet-V
08-02-07, 10:04 AM
I definately agree that the Jeep is a better looking vehicle inside and out. The aftermarket was the main reason I didn't go with it. Along with the fact that the rear seat hip room is a foot narrower. I have a child seat in the middle and an adult can sit on either side. That wouldn't happen in the Jeep. Also, for whatever reason the Jeeps cargo area is 1/2 the size of the Trailblazers.

Having a RPM built tranny along with a Vigilante 3400 stall makes a night and day difference in the tranny. I'm happy with the SS but it certainly has a few shortcomings that need to be addressed.

Blackout
08-02-07, 02:56 PM
I definately agree that the Jeep is a better looking vehicle inside and out. The aftermarket was the main reason I didn't go with it. Along with the fact that the rear seat hip room is a foot narrower. I have a child seat in the middle and an adult can sit on either side. That wouldn't happen in the Jeep. Also, for whatever reason the Jeeps cargo area is 1/2 the size of the Trailblazers.That also surprised me as well about the storage between the two vehicles. By looking at them I would think the Jeep would have more storage but I guess they are using bigger seats and a bigger dash or something. Another issue with the SRT-8's though is the price. I've only really checked out one of them at a dealership and they wanted $40k for it while the TB SS I test drove was something like $30k, so the price prices comes into the equation as well.


Having a RPM built tranny along with a Vigilante 3400 stall makes a night and day difference in the tranny. I'm happy with the SS but it certainly has a few shortcomings that need to be addressed.Well since your an owner of a TB SS I have a question for ya. I'm guessing you hangout on a TB SS forum or something but has there been any talks at all about a revamping of the TB SS wether it be a redesign, different engine, etc?

Koooop
08-05-07, 12:12 AM
We've got a 2002 Dinan Performance Package X5 4.6iS pushing somewhere around 369hp and Id gladly give up the slight numbers difference between the two trucks for the X5's *vastly* superior fit, finish and handling, even if it is built in SC. The SRT8 looks impressive from the outside, but thats about it.

The CTS-V is obviously in an entirely different class, but so much more car overall.

HAHAHAHAHA! X5 sucks, those miserable cars are about as comfortable as a Pogostick. :thepan:

They may have better fit and finish than a Jeep, but that's where it ends.

Hope you wear your back brace in that POS.

Mallet-V
08-05-07, 05:31 PM
Well since your an owner of a TB SS I have a question for ya. I'm guessing you hangout on a TB SS forum or something but has there been any talks at all about a revamping of the TB SS wether it be a redesign, different engine, etc?

It sounds as though it will come back in 2008 being the same, then it sounds as though it will be discontinued with the new body coming out in 2009. Maybe after a year or two with a new design, it will come back.

By the way, a TBSS just went 11.1@120+.:worship:

Blackout
08-06-07, 03:31 PM
It sounds as though it will come back in 2008 being the same, then it sounds as though it will be discontinued with the new body coming out in 2009. Maybe after a year or two with a new design, it will come back.Oh ok. Hopefully it shows back up with a LS3 under the hood:thumbsup:


By the way, a TBSS just went 11.1@120+.:worship:Damn! Thats hauling some ass. Was that all motor or did he go with a F/I setup or juice?

Mallet-V
08-07-07, 05:07 PM
Damn! Thats hauling some ass. Was that all motor or did he go with a F/I setup or juice?

Turbo!

92EldoTC
02-29-08, 04:59 PM
You couldn't have expected more from the SRT-8 comparing a Cadillac to a jeep, a truck to a car at that.

Newmonarch
08-24-08, 05:35 PM
Chrysler is not in Cadillac's class, its a truth, but SRT8 is not as good as Cayenne Turbo etc, but it is cheaper and has got N/A engine so you can put much more hp to it. Interior quality is not good, even we had 2001 Grand Cherokee 4.7, I hate some parts of our car. For example front console, doors insides, steering wheel , seats , armrest are both leather. The roof cloth has got great color and quality too. When you come to trunk, it changes. It has got plastic, it is hard but it has got quality, not cheap plastic. But when we come to center console, especially Automatic Transmission lever, it is rubbish. Very cheap plastic and swinging armrest with creaking noise when you push it hard. But not so bad, overall quality is very good, Chrysler had got workmanship issues in the past, today it is passed but now they reduced the interior quality very much. New Grand Cherokee to compared old, its very very different, new is looking like cheap korean cars, like Kia Sorento. ( Maybe you didnt heard this car before in Canada, I dont think they are selling that wreck in developed Countries like Canada, USA etc. )

Even if you compare MK1 CTS-V with Chrysler, you cant find any car for it. Because Chrysler has got NOTHİNG to offer against CTS, M3 or etc. Dodge Charger&Challenger is way more bigger, comfortable , cheaper traditional muscle cars. ( In fact, when the Muscle cars era was living on the earth, that cars were very very luxury against European rivals I think, they were leader , I cannot sure which time it was, but today, Mopar's economical situation forced to desing Muscle cars again and sell it, they are using the old legend ) . 300C SRT8 is a different offer against Bmw M5, E63 Amg , but still it cant beat them in quality and not fast as them. ( And also Chrysler is not matched with those marques, it is very cheap, M5 or E63 amg doubles the price of SRT8 in truth, you if you buy SRT8 for 45.000$ and spend 35.000$ on it, you will get faster and much better looking car than those I think. ) , the only choice of Americans beat those super sedans is Cadillac STS-V ( Which is faster and better handle than MB E class ) and upcoming CTS-V maybe...( In fact, old CTS-V is fine match up with E46 M3. But new CTS has got much power than M3, RS4 or C63 Amg, also it has got more power than E63, M5 , but CTS wasnt in the class of 3 series or something? And If Cadillac decided to CTS as rival of M5, then what will Cadillac put against Bmw 3 series? BLS-V?

Newmonarch
11-10-08, 11:10 AM
Can anybody reply me...

Blackout
11-10-08, 01:17 PM
Can anybody reply me...

Well it's kinda hard to make out what your saying, but Cadillac is not comparing the CTS to the 5 series. The CTS is Cadillac's entry level car so it would be compared to the 3 series while the STS would be compare to the 5 series. When it comes to the V series then who the hell knows what they're trying to compare it too. The only thing that compares to the XLR-V would be the SL AMG series or the M6. The STS-V "should" be compared to the M5 but it never is, it just seems to be the odd ball of the group. The CTS-V should technically be compared to the M3 but it's always compared to the M5. As for the BLS who the hell knows. 99% of this forum is people from the USA so we really have next to no clue as to what the BLS is even about. From what I remember about the BLS it seems that would be more closely compared to something like the C series from Mercedes or the 1 series from BMW but I could be wrong with that

jwoodie
01-30-09, 07:10 PM
I haven't driven an SRT8, but my '98 5.9 LTD was a helluva car. Never met anything faster 0-30.

Blackout
01-30-09, 07:27 PM
I haven't driven an SRT8, but my '98 5.9 LTD was a helluva car. Never met anything faster 0-30.

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thebigjimsho
01-31-09, 12:02 AM
I haven't driven an SRT8, but my '98 5.9 LTD was a helluva car. Never met anything faster 0-30.
A Forester XT would smoke it.

concorso
02-01-09, 09:42 PM
Well it's kinda hard to make out what your saying, but Cadillac is not comparing the CTS to the 5 series. The CTS is Cadillac's entry level car so it would be compared to the 3 series while the STS would be compare to the 5 series. When it comes to the V series then who the hell knows what they're trying to compare it too. The only thing that compares to the XLR-V would be the SL AMG series or the M6. The STS-V "should" be compared to the M5 but it never is, it just seems to be the odd ball of the group. The CTS-V should technically be compared to the M3 but it's always compared to the M5. As for the BLS who the hell knows. 99% of this forum is people from the USA so we really have next to no clue as to what the BLS is even about. From what I remember about the BLS it seems that would be more closely compared to something like the C series from Mercedes or the 1 series from BMW but I could be wrong with that Its hard for the CTS to compete with a 5 series when it only matches it in size. None of the V6 CTS can keep up with a 535i. The CTS doesnt offer anything to compete with the 550i. The CTS doesnt offer many choices in leather and materials inside, either. Spec-wise, the CTS fights a 3series much better...its just bigger.

The STS-V is redundant. What does it offer that the CTS-V doesnt?

Newmonarch
02-02-09, 07:53 AM
But the CTS-V offers 556 hp and competes with E63 Amg and Bmw M5. I think its not in the class that 3 series or C class. It will smoke them easily...

Blackout
02-02-09, 10:57 AM
But the CTS-V offers 556 hp and competes with E63 Amg and Bmw M5. I think its not in the class that 3 series or C class. It will smoke them easily...
The M3 shouldn't be any problem but the C63 is faster then the E63 so the C63 would be a better race for the CTS-V

concorso
02-04-09, 03:38 PM
The M3 shouldn't be any problem but the C63 is faster then the E63 so the C63 would be a better race for the CTS-VIn a straight line maybe, but in the twisties the M3 will be quicker then the C63. Id bet the CTS-V beats the lighter C63 around a track, too. At least in my less experienced hands. The C63 is a tricky little devil at the limit, before the limit, and nowhere near the limit. :)

The CTS-V competes with the M5, performance-wise. But there are very few people who can afford an M5, that would be willing to go to the Cadillac...
Although since the V is the best sedan out there, it could change the typical buying practices...

Id guess there are many more people cross shopping the M3 And V, instead of the M5 and V.