View Full Version : Passing Emissions Test with B&B Headers and Xpipe?


BigAndyZV
07-24-07, 01:25 PM
Anyone with B&B headers and x pipe (no cats) know if you will pass the emissions test with this set up? I know states vary, I am in Texas which I think has the most lenient policy...any input or experience would be helpful. Ive got to get inspected by Oct. and Im wondering if I need to start looking for a "friendly" shop:) Thanks guys!

bossplayer
07-24-07, 01:31 PM
Anyone with B&B headers and x pipe (no cats) know if you will pass the emissions test with this set up? I know states vary, I am in Texas which I think has the most lenient policy...any input or experience would be helpful. Ive got to get inspected by Oct. and Im wondering if I need to start looking for a "friendly" shop:) Thanks guys!

The friendly shop, is a shop everyone should have....

thebigjimsho
07-24-07, 01:35 PM
In Texas, I think you could give the tech's daughter a good rodgering and still pass emissions.

Now, passing it in MA is the question...

PIMPALLYA59
07-24-07, 02:15 PM
i think you need cats in every state. to burn the unused fuel at least

darkman
07-24-07, 02:16 PM
In Texas all of the original emission control equipment is supposed to be intact, the computer should show no emission-related DTCs, and the exhaust output put must be below certain thresholds. The second two requirements, in theory at least, are easy to enforce. Enforcement of the first one vary's simply because individual inspectors may overlook missing emissions equipment or fail to notice tampering with such devices. For example, at least one forum member has reported passing a Texas test with no cats. This obviously required inspector error.

fredcook
07-24-07, 02:18 PM
Anyone with B&B headers and x pipe (no cats) know if you will pass the emissions test with this set up? I know states vary, I am in Texas which I think has the most lenient policy...any input or experience would be helpful. Ive got to get inspected by Oct. and Im wondering if I need to start looking for a "friendly" shop:) Thanks guys!

In Texas too.... Cats are required. Even if they don't look for them, the tail pipe sniffer will likely fail it.

thebigjimsho
07-24-07, 03:37 PM
Of course cats are required in every state. What the BigAndy is asking is if exhausts sans cats will pass the sensors.

In MA, my healthy '92 SHO passed sans cats...barely.

darkman
07-24-07, 03:48 PM
Of course cats are required in every state. What the BigAndy is asking is if exhausts sans cats will pass the sensors.

In MA, my healthy '92 SHO passed sans cats...barely.

Passing without cats in Texas is unlikely, but not unheard of. Basically, you cannot count on it because: (1) you must pass the sensors; AND (2) your inspector has to forget to look under the car.

thebigjimsho
07-24-07, 03:54 PM
Passing without cats in Texas is unlikely, but not unheard of. Basically, you cannot count on it because: (1) you must pass the sensors; AND (2) your inspector has to forget to look under the car.For #2, not if your B&B headers have gutted cats.

darkman
07-24-07, 04:06 PM
For #2, not if your B&B headers have gutted cats.

And then, of course, there is the deceptive approach.......

BigAndyZV
07-24-07, 04:27 PM
so basically i need to find an inspector who likes a $50 dollar tip for an inspection sticker, lol. Damnit!

darkman
07-24-07, 05:09 PM
so basically i need to find an inspector who likes a $50 dollar tip for an inspection sticker, lol. Damnit!

Known locally as the Enron approach.

BigAndyZV
07-24-07, 05:40 PM
Known locally as the Enron approach.

Im an oil broker so thats actually funnier than u think :)

darkman
07-24-07, 05:55 PM
Im an oil broker so thats actually funnier than u think :)

To live outside the law you must be honest......(Bob Dylan 1966).

ewill3rd
07-24-07, 07:12 PM
It totally depends on the type of test equipment they use.
In VA we use a dyno only for older cars or "remote sensing" cars.
Anything newer than '96 gets what DEQ refers to as an OBD test.
Basically you connect a lead to the DLC under the dash and it checks the computer to see if the flags are set and if there are any codes.
Basically if the car has been driven for a while without clearing the codes and the CEL is not on it will pass.
If you have that kind of aftermarket setup then the catalyst monitors are probably turned off or you have simulators.
Out here you might pass an OBD, but you'd never make it on the dyno with the 4 gas analyzer.

If they use 4 gas on every inspection it is unlikely you will pass, if it is an OBD test and you don't see the CEL, you probably will.
I have no real knowledge of the testing they use in TX so I can't really say one way or another.

Good luck I guess.

darkman
07-24-07, 07:21 PM
Try this.

http://www.tceq.state.tx.us/implementation/air/mobilesource/vim/highlights.html

ewill3rd
07-24-07, 07:33 PM
Test Method: Model Year 1996 and newer vehicles will be subject to On-board Diagnostic (OBD) testing and Model Year 1995 and older vehicles will be subject to Two Speed Idle (TSI) testing.


Heck, they probably use the same equipment we use.
If they look under the car and see something that looks like a catalytic converter you should be good.
If you don't have converters at all you might just fail.
We have to do a visual on the converter, then do the OBD test.
As I said, if you don't have a CEL on you will probably pass an OBD test.
(it has to work... it just can't be on with codes)

darkman
07-24-07, 08:00 PM
Heck, they probably use the same equipment we use.
If they look under the car and see something that looks like a catalytic converter you should be good.
If you don't have converters at all you might just fail.
We have to do a visual on the converter, then do the OBD test.
As I said, if you don't have a CEL on you will probably pass an OBD test.
(it has to work... it just can't be on with codes)

Thank you. Nice to know even though I am currently stock on emissions-related stuff.