: p0336 still coming after cranksensor replacement



dvandentop
06-12-07, 09:50 PM
still getting this issue after putting new cranksensor in
it is causing issues with my ls2 motor in my cts-v
i put in the new crank sensor and it was fine for about 200 miles then it started acting up and quiting every once in a while.

any reccomendations???

StealthV
06-12-07, 09:59 PM
Are you running the LS2 or LS6 trigger wheel? A LS2 has a 58 tooth and the LS6 uses a 24 tooth.

dvandentop
06-12-07, 10:02 PM
it is using the correct 24x crank wheel which is correct for my 05 pcm

StealthV
06-12-07, 10:09 PM
Well, that was the easy one that popped in my head knowing the LS6 > LS2 swap history.

DTC P0336

(http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss1-1465518)Circuit Description (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss1-1465518)

The crankshaft position (CKP) sensor signal indicates the crankshaft speed and position. The CKP sensor circuits are connected directly to the powertrain control module (PCM) and consists of the following circuits:

The 12-volt reference circuit
The low reference circuit
The CKP sensor signal circuit If the PCM detects that the CKP sensor signal is inconsistent, DTC P0336 sets.
(http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss2-1465518)DTC Descriptor (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss2-1465518)

This diagnostic procedure supports the following DTC:
DTC P0336 Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor Circuit
(http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss3-1465518)Conditions for Running the DTC (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss3-1465518)


The engine is cranking or running.
DTC P0336 runs continuously once the above conditions are met. (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss4-1465518)Conditions for Setting the DTC (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss4-1465518)

The PCM detects that the CKP sensor signal is inconsistent for 3 seconds.
(http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss1-727820)Action Taken When the DTC Sets (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss1-727820)


The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) on the second consecutive ignition cycle that the diagnostic runs and fails.
The control module records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. The first time the diagnostic fails, the control module stores this information in the Failure Records. If the diagnostic reports a failure on the second consecutive ignition cycle, the control module records the operating conditions at the time of the failure. The control module writes the operating conditions to the Freeze Frame and updates the Failure Records. (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss1-727824)Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#ss1-727824)


The control module turns OFF the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) after 3 consecutive ignition cycles that the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
A current DTC, Last Test Failed, clears when the diagnostic runs and passes.
A history DTC clears after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles, if no failures are reported by this or any other emission related diagnostic.
Clear the MIL and the DTC with a scan tool. Step
Action
Values
Yes
No
Schematic Reference: Engine Controls Schematics (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=31947&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm)
Connector End View Reference: Engine Controls Connector End Views (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=31943&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) or Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Connector End Views (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=32607&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm)
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Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle?
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Go to Step 2 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S02)
Go to Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=72794&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in Vehicle DTC Information
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Important

If DTC P0335 is also set, diagnose DTC P0335 before proceeding with this DTC.


Observe the Freeze Frame/Failure Records for this DTC.
Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds.
Start the engine.
Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure Records. Did the DTC fail this ignition?
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Go to Step 3 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S03)
Go to Intermittent Conditions (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=31888&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm)
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Inspect all of the crankshaft position sensor (CKP) circuits for the following conditions:

Wiring routed too closely to secondary ignition wires or components
Wiring routed too closely to after-market add-on electrical equipment
Wiring routed to closely to solenoids, relays, and motors
Electromagnetic interference in the CKP sensor circuits Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 14 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S14)
Go to Step 4 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S04)
4

Raise the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=47852&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in General Information.
Remove the starter. Refer to Starter Motor Replacement (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=37552&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in Engine Mechanical.
Disconnect the CKP sensor connector.
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Measure the voltage from the 12-volt reference circuit of the CKP sensor with a DMM. Is the voltage within the specified value?
B+
Go to Step 5 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S05)
Go to Step 13 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S13)
5
Test the 12-volt reference circuit for an intermittent condition or shorted to other circuits. Refer to Testing for Electrical Intermittents (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=62111&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) and Inducing Intermittent Fault Conditions (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=62201&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 14 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S14)
Go to Step 6 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S06)
6
Test the low reference circuit for an intermittent condition. Refer to Testing for Electrical Intermittents (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=62111&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) and Inducing Intermittent Fault Conditions (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=62201&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 14 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S14)
Go to Step 7 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S07)
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Test the CKP sensor signal circuit for an intermittent condition. Refer to Testing for Electrical Intermittents (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=62111&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) and Inducing Intermittent Fault Conditions (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=62201&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 14 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S14)
Go to Step 8 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S08)
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Test for an intermittent and for a poor connection at the CKP sensor. Refer to Testing for Intermittent and Poor Connections (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=62112&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) and Wiring Repairs (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=61965&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 14 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S14)
Go to Step 9 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S09)
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Test for an intermittent and for a poor connection at the powertrain control module (PCM). Refer to Testing for Intermittent and Poor Connections (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=62112&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) and Wiring Repairs (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=61965&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 14 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S14)
Go to Step 10 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S10)
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Remove the CKP sensor. Refer to Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor Replacement (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=31809&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) .
Inspect the CKP sensor for the following conditions:
Physical damage
Loose or improper installation
Excessive play or looseness
Excessive air gap between the CKP sensor and the reluctor wheel
Foreign material passing between the CKP sensor and the reluctor wheel
Insufficient fuel Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 14 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S14)
Go to Step 11 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S11)
11
Inspect the reluctor wheel for the following conditions:

Physical damage
Loose or improper installation
Excessive end play or looseness Refer to Crankshaft and Bearings Cleaning and Inspection (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=44518&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in Engine Mechanical.
Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 14 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S14)
Go to Step 12 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S12)
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Replace the CKP sensor. Refer to Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor Replacement (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=31809&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) .
Did you complete the replacement?
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Go to Step 14 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S14)
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13
Replace the PCM. Refer to Control Module References (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=72864&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in Computer/Integrating Systems for replacement, setup, and programming.
Did you complete the replacement?
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Go to Step 14 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S14)
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14

Clear the DTCs with a scan tool.
Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds.
Start the engine.
Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure Records. Did the DTC fail this ignition?
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Go to Step 15 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S15)
Go to Step 2 (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#S02)
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Observe the Capture Info with a scan tool.
Are there any DTCs that have not been diagnosed?
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Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle (http://www.cadillacforums.com/servlets/CellHandler?CellId=72795&RefDoc=1465518&evc=sm) in Vehicle DTC Information
System OK

thebigjimsho
06-12-07, 10:16 PM
Wow. My brain hurts and my butt itches again...