View Full Version : I have a PRoblem please help


d20903
06-02-07, 02:16 AM
Ive had the car for like 2 months now i woke up one day and the battery was dead the battery was a fairly new one so i got a new one it happened again like after 4-5 days took it to the shop they said i might have a draw or something they took a draw test they said they found nothing wrong they said it might be the battery got me a new one then when i went to pick the car up they said they had to jump it . im worried now that these ****ers at the cadillac shop have no clue wats wrong any ever had the same problem? battery drains in 4-5 days ,draw tests say nothings wrong anyone?

chubbyranger
06-02-07, 05:25 AM
Need to start with more questions:

What kind of car?
Do you drive it regularly in the 4-5 days it takes for the battery to go dead?
Are all of the electrical systems operating normally?

codewize
06-02-07, 09:37 AM
Yeah we need to know what the car is.

d20903
06-02-07, 12:07 PM
its a 03 deville yes i drove it everyday to work and everything seems to be working perfect the service man said no codes are showing up and nothing on the draw test so he's letting the foreman technician take a look

behind-bars
06-02-07, 09:32 PM
Thats weird, My guess would be something is running constantly, maybe a pump or something but you would probably be able to hear it, So that may not be the case.

Are you sure its the battery, maybe replacing the battery and it starting was coincidence? Maybe something like the starter or similar is your problem.

codewize
06-02-07, 09:40 PM
Ok, things to look at.

Is the battery being removed actually dead? It may be a cable issue.

If it is dead then there is a draw regardless of what the test says. I know this is a completely different animal BUT I had a similar problem with my 89 STS.

Intermittent dead battery, no draw showing up on the amp meter, no on could figure it out. Turned out to be a hardwired circuit to the level-ride system. No one noticed it because it was a second unfused circuit. Or at least it wasn't labeled on any fuse. The level-ride head was bad. The dealer finally found it and it's been fine since.

Something is definitely drawing the battery if it is actually going dead.

d20903
06-02-07, 09:54 PM
the battery is actually dead they have to re charge so i should jus wait for the tech to find the draw thats not showing up on the draw test?

behind-bars
06-02-07, 09:58 PM
the battery is actually dead they have to re charge so i should jus wait for the tech to find the draw thats not showing up on the draw test?


This is going to sound stupid, and you may have thought of it too, but is their anything metal in your ashtrays? Any loose change that could be stuck in the cig lighter that could cause a drain, if it takes 4-5 days to drain it seems like it would be a small draw, An air pump or something would probably kill the battery in a matter of hours

Ranger
06-02-07, 11:22 PM
There has to be a draw somewhere. Perhaps it is intermittent.

codewize
06-03-07, 09:39 AM
Well my level-ride compressor didn't do it all the time. It was dependant on what position it got stuck in. stuck closed would not cause a problem and the car could sit for days. Stuck open caused the compressor to run every 5 minutes or so killing the batter over a 2 day span.

Anyway, yes you need to find the draw. This is what I went through. My mechanic was practically sleeping with the car to see when and what was causing it. Again I know they are very different cars but one technique we used was to pull a couple fuses a day and see if the problem went away. Then you know it's one of the circuits you pulled a fuse for.

I think you're in for a long wait. Has the dealer looked at it? They're the ones who found my problem. It took them 2 days but they found it.

d20903
06-03-07, 10:08 PM
its in the shop right now as we speak theyre letting the master foreman look at it monday. THey already had the car for like a week i hope they find the problem tho and how much did it cost u ^^^^^^^^^^?

codewize
06-03-07, 10:51 PM
The level-ride thing. Hmm that was quite a while ago. I want to say it was something like $400 - $500. That was to replace the level-ride control head, is what they called it. Again remember your car is far different from my 89.

d20903
06-03-07, 10:58 PM
yea so alot more i guess ? i got a warranty so nevermind

codewize
06-04-07, 05:14 PM
No I'm not saying more money I'm just saying that the likelihood of it actually being the same problem is slim.

d20903
06-05-07, 01:24 AM
man i jus talked to the tech he said there thinking it might be a defective battery but im almost 100 percent sure its not the battery cause i paid for a new one b4 i brought it to them and they said i needed another one and there sayin the one they put in there is defective ? any suggestions on what i should say ?

behind-bars
06-05-07, 08:20 AM
man i jus talked to the tech he said there thinking it might be a defective battery but im almost 100 percent sure its not the battery cause i paid for a new one b4 i brought it to them and they said i needed another one and there sayin the one they put in there is defective ? any suggestions on what i should say ?

I would tell them that you've put several new batteries in and the problem has persisted, If they say you need a new one again I would tell them that you want them to put in a known working battery they have around, free of charge, so they can see that it isnt the battery.

dabeastro1
06-05-07, 09:31 AM
Do you have an aftermarket soundsystem? Could be something there. I had a similar problem with my 91 and it's power antenna running constantly but I'm pretty sure the 03's don't use power antennas.

d20903
06-05-07, 05:07 PM
uuhh no everything is stock and the poblem wit that is that it takes the car like 4-5 days to draino they cant really jus check right away you kno? but could a battery (new ) be defective ? and and could a not good batter drain in 4-5 days ?

TexasCadillac
06-05-07, 11:58 PM
I hope you don't have a walmart battery. As you probably know walmart buys a lot of rejects and seconds and sometimes they get a whole pallet of problem batteries, and it doesn't do any good to get another battery off of the same pallet of bad batteries. Get one at Oreilleys or anywhere but walmart. Oreilleys even put it on my Fleetwood for me. I hope you get it figured out. I think the dealer will find it. I would check tha alternator and don't use battery cables with added on ends they corrode easy and affect the charging system, buy new cables with molded on ends, I even put axle grease on the battery posts to make waterproof and stop corrosion. Texas Cadillac

TexasCadillac
06-06-07, 12:00 AM
You might have the battery checked for a bad cell. It sounds like the alternator isn't charging. TexasCadillac

cadi197
06-06-07, 03:35 PM
You may take it to a different shop or possible take it to and auto parts store and have the test your altenator and starter. Maybe the altenator is putting out enought for the car to run on but not enough to charge the battery. Also you could have a bad starter. The starter could be using more amps which will cause the batter to drain.

chubbyranger
06-07-07, 04:44 AM
Here's my problem with the whole scenario - every time you drive the car, the alternator spins and recharges the battery. So every time you park it the battery should be fully charged, or very close to it. So your choices would seem to be an intermittent drain that only appears every 4-5 days or possibly a marginal alternator/voltage regulator (or associated bad connnection) that charges the battery just enough to keep it going for a few days until the car consumes the residual capacity in the battery. Drive the car with the battery voltage on the DIC and keep track of it over the 4-5 days that makes it go dead. That may lead you closer to the problem.

d20903
06-07-07, 11:04 PM
OK thanks for all ur help the tech did find the draw
it was funny cause he told me to pick the car up and it waws only the battery then when i called before i was comming he told me they figured it out they said there was a clicking sound comming from the dash ill keep u informed thanks a million everybody

d20903
06-08-07, 06:18 PM
ok the clickin sound they said they heard was the day tim running lights or something they said that wasnt it
so now there sayin a new battery is the way too go this battery number 3 they put in two and i bought a new one b4 i went there .. wat should i do find another shop my problem is that its a cadillac dealership service shop who do i send it to if anyone i would think theyll fix it