I'm fighting a Careless Driving ticket I got about two months ago. I was driving home on I-80 at about 2:30 in the morning and in all honesty going no faster than 70 MPH since I had just totaled my Malibu a couple days before and was still in that post accident state of driving when I almost rear ended a cop car who pulled out into traffic without his headlights on. He then pulled me over and ticketed me for careless driving accusing me of flying up behind him.

I'm asking for everyone to wish me the best since this is a real injustice done to me and I want my true justice.....

Good luck Dope! I hope things work out for you.

I have a solution, unfortunately the law doesn't look too kindly upon justice served with 180 grains of copper jacketed lead. There's a reason I have a general dislike for law enforcement.

Unfortunately, I think you'll lose this one. His word will carry the tone of the courtroom - he'll maintain that you ran up his butt (and you admit to being over the speed limit to start with), hence not being in 100% control of your vehicle.

I would really stress the no lights on police car. The charge against you may involve a subjective evaluation of your driving conduct by the officer. For example, if you are charged with "careless driving", the officer will have to describe conduct which was in fact "careless". It may be possible to counter with an explanation for your driving conduct, based upon events beyond the officer's awareness - like you didn't see him with NO LIGHTS and which may even be consistent with what the officer has described. I assume there was no accident.

How dare you question the autority of the police! Stop resisting citizen!

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Good luck. I sincerely hope you can get out of it easily. After reading a story (a week ago) about a judge who jailed 3 men that showed up in his courtroom wearing shorts, I don't hold much faith for our great justice system. 10 days for wearing shorts - :ill:

Good luck Dopestar! But man oh man you're automotive luck has hit a wall (so to speak) lately.

Good luck Dope, fighting against law enforcement is tough, but we're all pullin' for ya!

Good luck Dope!!

How dare you question the autority of the police! Stop resisting citizen!

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Good luck. I sincerely hope you can get out of it easily. After reading a story (a week ago) about a judge who jailed 3 men that showed up in his courtroom wearing shorts, I don't hold much faith for our great justice system. 10 days for wearing shorts - :ill:
It's called contempt of court. They could have gotten as much as six months with no right to bail. My friend's Uncle Bill was before the judge for stealing the siren off a police car. After a couple of surly replies, the judge announced "I find you're in contempt of this court. That'll be two weeks in jail" Bill answered "Aw! Gee whiz judge. I was trying to conceal it as best I could". He got the six months.

Try to look as much like the average citizen as possible, if you are really in a brown nosing mood put on a jacket and tie. If you go early some courts allow you to bargain with the prosecutor. For the towns it's all about the money. For the drivers it's usually about keeping the points down which in turn is all about the money. Bargain it down to something with little or no points and pay the fine, win win, town gets the money and you save the points which saves you insurance money in the long run.
Good Luck
PS hope your driving record isn't too bad, the judge will have it in fromt of him and makes all the difference.

Let us know how it plays out.

It's called contempt of court.

In my book serving 10 days in the can for wearing shorts into "Mr almighty's" court room is called :bs: . ;)

The theme song to Night Court just got into my head.

Good luck, DS!

The theme song to Night Court just got into my head.

Good luck, DS!

the chick on that show was hot

In my book serving 10 days in the can for wearing shorts into "Mr almighty's" court room is called :bs: . ;)

Bingo

Speaking of TV shows, I'm remembering Home Improvement: "You don't need luck. You need directions!".

Good luck Dope. I just recently beat a case involving cops. I was in an accident with a off duty cop. 20minutes later on duty cops showed up. 10 minutes later I was in jail. It was thrown out of court because one of the arresting officers went through police training with the person who hit my car. I had a lawyer though($4000), the state's attorney and the officer who showed up had the nerve to be angry.:banghead: $4000+$500 decuctable just because a cop hit me.:cookoo: It make me wanna join their gang so I don't hafta go through this again(above the law). If ya can't beat-em, join-em.

Oh, you can beat them alright - with a ****ing louisville slugger

what happened to the Malibu?

My ass hurts.......

NJ is a very corrupt state kids.....

Give me an Address

1715 Rt. 46 W.
Ledgewood, NJ

Strike true....

Bingo
I'll bet that for 10 days for wearing shorts to court there was some mouthing off involved. A usual fine for clothing is $20 and for swearing it's $100 for each magic word. These guys must have acted like major a$$holes. In my rather limited courtroom experience, with every contempt of court citation I've seen handed down there was approval expressed by everyone in the courtroom.

Well it's nice to see that we got some ****ing arbitrary decision on what clothing is ok.

I'll bet that for 10 days for wearing shorts to court there was some mouthing off involved. A usual fine for clothing is $20 and for swearing it's $100 for each magic word. These guys must have acted like major hineyholes. In my rather limited courtroom experience, with every contempt of court citation I've seen handed down there was approval expressed by everyone in the courtroom.

Tha conversation went something like this (paraphrased a little):

Man called up to front of courtroom, standing

Judge: "Do you have something to say for yourself?"
Guy: "Ummm, what do you mean?"
Judge: "10 days in jail for you pal."
Guy: :eek:

The next two fellas called up for the same reason had to BEG forgiveness. One of the guys wasn't even appearing in court, he was there with a friend and sat in the very back of the court room. Any way you cut it that is complete BS. Judges have too much power. JMHO

Oh, you can beat them alright - with a ****ing louisville slugger
Nah, the beating you give is nothing compared to the beating you are going to get when his friends arrive. Trust me.

Tha conversation went something like this (paraphrased a little):

Man called up to front of courtroom, standing

Judge: "Do you have something to say for yourself?"
Guy: "Ummm, what do you mean?"
Judge: "10 days in jail for you pal."
Guy: :eek:

The next two fellas called up for the same reason had to BEG forgiveness. One of the guys wasn't even appearing in court, he was there with a friend and sat in the very back of the court room. Any way you cut it that is complete BS. Judges have too much power. JMHO
I love it. I'll bet they don't do it again. Most jurisdictions promulgate rules of courtroom conduct and a dress code that include EVERYBODY in the courtroom. The judge doesn't just dream this stuff up. If someone trapses in wearing a wifebeater and shorts it'll be a sorry day for him. Judges take the law seriously. If you don't think it's serious going in, you sure as hell will going out. It's very easy for the judge to smack down a wiseass just for rolling his eyes. The simple fact is that the judge is THE MAN. You don't have to like it but you better respect it. He can't force you to respect him and the law but he can sure make you wish you had.

10 days is insane for a dress code violation. A fine would be more suitable. Do you really believe shorts in a court room warrants 10 days in jail?

Eh..10 days may be stretching it a bit, but the point is courtroom dress and decorum are designed to show respect for the LAW - not necessarily for the lawgivers - and unless you're in Bermuda, shorts in a courtroom are not appropriate.

I'll admit it's interesting to see the opinions about my post. As I said, I think 10 days is BS. Having said that, if I had to go to court I would have better sense than to wear shorts and a T.

I havewatched My Cousin Vinny...duh. ;)

I havewatched My Cousin Vinny...duh. ;)

One of my favorite movies. Points!

Around here there's a bailiff about the size of Man Mountain Dean that stands at the door, snatches the hat off your head, and hands it to you as you walk in. If you're not dressed appropriately and aren't on trial he'll turn you right around and back out. I've seen him give a newspaper reporter in grubbys the bum's rush right out the door. The judge sets the tone in the courtroom and can be a real badass. I'm one who thinks society needs some solid underpinnings. If the courtroom descends into the same morass as the rest of society we're in real trouble.

Oh well, you know what I have to say?


I'll throw a ****ing kegger every time one of those judges bites the dust.

Good luck!
although most of the time these things don't go your way unless ofcourse the cop doesn't show up.... let us know how it goes.

Oh well, you know what I have to say?


I'll throw a ****ing kegger every time one of those judges bites the dust.


Good one. Points.