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barry007
11-02-07, 09:11 PM
So when the car is unveiled at Detroit in January, what do Kadonny and I win for posting this info 6 months ago? :D

i think i beat ya, what do i get?
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum/99616-corvette-ss-lives-link.html#post990882

Jon
11-03-07, 01:15 PM
New rumour:

It might get AWD.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.aspx?AR=228987

JimmyH
11-03-07, 01:16 PM
New rumour:

It might get AWD.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.aspx?AR=228987

AWD= A Whopping Differential?

StealthV
11-03-07, 01:38 PM
AWD is not a new rumor. Please submit yourself for banishment.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum/111156-next-cts-v-all-wheel-drive.html

CTSV_Rob
11-03-07, 01:44 PM
AWD, if they do this do you think the car will be heavier then it is now?

StealthV
11-03-07, 01:47 PM
The new V without AWD is heavier so - yes.

lawfive
11-03-07, 01:54 PM
Tony: any insider hints as to whether the V will be offered in coupe form when the CTS coupe and wagon variants (supposedly) arrive in 2009?

CTSV_Rob
11-03-07, 02:31 PM
A station wagon V... The ultimate Sleeper?

CTSV_Rob
11-03-07, 02:34 PM
The new V without AWD is heavier so - yes.
Yuk.

If I buy an 09 with AWD maybe I can take the All Terrains I have on my truck and put them on the V...

35" tires, Lift Kit, It will be time to put a V in 4 wheeler mag!

StealthV
11-03-07, 03:49 PM
Agree - I've already got AWD, 400+ hp L92 and 6-speed. The BFG A/T KOs are going on before the snow flies. :thumbsup:

StealthV
11-03-07, 03:52 PM
And a V will never have a trunk this functional. :duck:

CTSV_Rob
11-03-07, 05:46 PM
Nice truck Rick.

I had the A/T KO's (Great tires) but went with the Nitto's this last time. Real happy with them and Tracy from Trucks gave them a great review. Already siped pretty well for factory, maybe worth looking into?

Like the carpet, did you do that yourself or is it a kit?

If the 09 V comes in AWD then

JimmyH
11-03-07, 06:01 PM
09 CTS-V with auto and awd=4300 lbs
SRT8 won't be the heavyweight anymore

CTSV_Rob
11-03-07, 06:17 PM
4300 Pounds, ouch.

Gonna need some 16" rotors with 6 piston calipers and 550HP for this new V to edge out the Gen 1 V.

JimmyH
11-03-07, 08:32 PM
that's why I dont think the 09 is going to be as good of a sport sedan. Sure with 550 hp, it will be alot faster, but more power does not equal more fun. 400 hp is more than enough for me. I would trade 30hp for 3 more mpg.

CTSV_Rob
11-03-07, 09:17 PM
Oooh Jim, How could you speak words like that. With the price of gas I can understand your momentary lapse of sanity but stay strong, don't give up any HP!

Think they need to make what they have faster, lighter, more responsive, better MPG...

Don't sacrifice one for the other, I would like to think one of the big three could do better then I.

Jon
11-03-07, 09:19 PM
AWD is not a new rumor. Please submit yourself for banishment.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum/111156-next-cts-v-all-wheel-drive.html
But it was a new article. :p

JimmyH
11-03-07, 09:48 PM
Oooh Jim, How could you speak words like that. With the price of gas I can understand your momentary lapse of sanity but stay strong, don't give up any HP!

Think they need to make what they have faster, lighter, more responsive, better MPG...

Don't sacrifice one for the other, I would like to think one of the big three could do better then I.

Well, it is really easy to say I would make that trade when I know it aint ever gonna happen...

I guarantee the 09 V will only be heavier. The 3.6L CTS porked up over 300 lbs.

CTSV_Rob
11-03-07, 10:00 PM
Wow 300 lbs on the 3.6L CTS, wow... I wounder if the weight is coming from the fender side vents and the pop-tart Nav. :D

JimmyH
11-03-07, 10:22 PM
diff mounts :D

CTSV_Rob
11-03-07, 10:25 PM
Has anyone checked to see if that 08 Diff is any better and if so will it fit into the 07 with some "Mod's" ("mod's goooood....")

thebigjimsho
11-04-07, 12:56 AM
Agree - I've already got AWD, 400+ hp L92 and 6-speed. The BFG A/T KOs are going on before the snow flies. :thumbsup:http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachments/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum/37199d1194119298-09-v-rumor-thread-really-dsc01819a.jpgMeh, I'll need something that can tow more...

pfflyer
11-04-07, 07:04 AM
Article dicussing 09 CTS-V and AWD....

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/228987/

CIWS
11-04-07, 07:25 AM
Thanks for the post.

IBTL/A

Flyboy
11-04-07, 07:54 AM
08 Diff is any better

There isn't an '08. '09 will be COMPLETELY different.

JonCR96Z
11-04-07, 09:04 AM
An all new four-wheel drive, Corvette Z06-engined, BMW M5-baiting Cadillac CTS-V will become the flagship of the re-launched US brand’s line-up next year - but Autocar has learned that US bosses have yet to approve the car for right-hand drive production.
The snorting 500bhp CTS, previewed by the CTS Sport concept shown at this week's SEMA show in Las Vegas, is still under development in the US. Over there bosses remain unconvinced of the financial case for exporting the super saloon to the UK, despite Cadillac bosses here fighting for the car to be imported as hard as they can.
US bosses are worried that the limited number of cars likely to be sold in right-hand drive markets doesn’t justify the millions of dollars needed to engineer the car properly for them.
If the new CTS-V is four-wheel drive, unlike any CTS gone before, the nature of its all-wheel drive system may make it all-the-more expensive to convert for right-hand-drive. All-wheel drive versions of Mercedes' C-class and BMW's 3-series, with a front-mounted engine and rear-mounted transaxle gearbox, require an extra driveshaft running forward from the transmission to the front wheels. In left-hand-drive models, this is routed through part of the front passenger footwell, and makes converting to right-hand drive prohibitively expensive. The same could be true for the new CTS-V.
However, a decision to bypass the UK market with its halo CTS could still be interpreted as proof that Cadillac still doesn’t take Britain seriously, and given this week’s re-launch of the struggling GM luxury brand, that's exactly what the firm doesn't need.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/228987/

Florian
11-04-07, 09:44 AM
dont bet on it....


F

darkman
11-04-07, 09:57 AM
dont bet on it....


F

Okay, I'll bite. Bet on what? AWD or a Right-side version?

rand49er
11-04-07, 10:19 AM
Though granted, not much, sales could also go to Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and (yeah right!) Japan.

caddyv8v
11-04-07, 10:28 AM
first i have heard/read of awd for the v. think of all the new threads regarding those weak front difs.

CTSV_Rob
11-04-07, 11:54 AM
There isn't an '08. '09 will be COMPLETELY different.
Funny, I thought there was a 08 CTS...

I was thinking whatever they use for the base CTS will be in the V but I could be wrong on that. Anyways, the mount should be the same so if you can conceptually install the 08 CTS Diff into a Gen 1 then the V should require the same changes (for example, the cradle will need to be swapped.)

I'm not sure what your definition of COMPLETELY different is but I looked underneath a 08 CTS and it looks very similiar and a retrofit does look possible. Now the retro might be cost prohibitive but I had to ask the question.

Never say die, don't give up to easily there is always a solution.

Koooop
11-04-07, 09:54 PM
AWD would be an Audi.

AWD would be twice as many diffs to explode.

AWD would suck.

JimmyH
11-04-07, 10:05 PM
AWD would be twice as many diffs to explode.

:rofl:

NormV
11-04-07, 10:23 PM
AWD would be an Audi.

AWD would be twice as many diffs to explode.

AWD would suck.

Twice as many complaints too! Gm would go on the cheap and use open diff with the brakes stopping wheel spin just likr MB and SRT/MB rear. Audi's quattro is too expensive.

They'll have their financial hands full with a coupe and wagon to see a V with awd.

Norm

JimmyH
11-05-07, 06:14 PM
a little photoshop (for the folks who have sigs turned off)

http://www.cooleywire.com/jimmyh/pics/cars/ctsv09.jpg

urbanski
11-05-07, 06:19 PM
a little photoshop (for the folks who have sigs turned off)

http://www.cooleywire.com/jimmyh/pics/cars/ctsv09.jpg

dear lord
do a bigger wing, some chrome around the front lights/fogs, and put a sticker in the front windshield, too :p

JimmyH
11-05-07, 06:28 PM
c'mon that would be over doing it

CTSV_Rob
11-05-07, 06:29 PM
Hmmm....

You don't think this is overdone? I think the rims have gone a little too far, wonder what the interior looks like... :hide:

Koooop
11-05-07, 07:50 PM
The interior looks like it has a bunch of dull chrome plastic crap that's probably going to chip more than our radio buttons.

If the car has 600hp I don't car if the console is made from DUNG! I'll drive it!

CTSV_Rob
11-05-07, 09:21 PM
I really like the purr of a solid V8 but if I had to smell DUNG all day I think I would keep my '07

Kadonny
11-06-07, 09:15 AM
So when the car is unveiled at Detroit in January, what do Kadonny and I win for posting this info 6 months ago? :D


:cool2::cool2: I just read this from a few days ago. Yup, Tony and I had it called a long time ago. I'll pm all of those interested my address for a backrub with scented oil :bouncy:

If you waded through the info GM was throwing out there, apply a little bit of common sense, there was really no other alternative the the blown LSA at the mid 500 hp number.

I just would love to see it carry a DSG or SMG or something equivalent, now that would be sweet.

Florian
11-06-07, 09:42 AM
Okay, I'll bite. Bet on what? AWD or a Right-side version?

awd

F

JimmyH
11-06-07, 03:23 PM
I took the bling out

http://www.cooleywire.com/jimmyh/pics/cars/ctsv2009.jpg

Silver Dollar
11-06-07, 03:53 PM
Fixed it for Jimmy
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x103/Old_Dollar_Bill/Project15.png

JimmyH
11-06-07, 04:20 PM
Fixed it for Jimmy

watch out for parking stops

CTSV_Rob
11-06-07, 04:25 PM
I took the bling out

http://www.cooleywire.com/jimmyh/pics/cars/ctsv2009.jpg
Much better but the Hood still reminds me of Corvette Summer! (done playing in the STS-V forum for now)

JimmyH
11-06-07, 04:49 PM
Much better but the Hood still reminds me of Corvette Summer! (done playing in the STS-V forum for now)

that hood bulge is from the M coupe in case you were wondering (or one of those little BMW shitboxes)

StealthV
11-06-07, 06:59 PM
:cool2::cool2: I just read this from a few days ago. Yup, Tony and I had it called a long time ago. I'll pm all of those interested my address for a backrub with scented oil :bouncy:.

Hate to burst your bubble but you weren't the first.

CTSV_Rob
11-06-07, 09:25 PM
Hate to burst your bubble but you weren't the first.
Do you?

thefred
11-06-07, 10:32 PM
Much better but the Hood still reminds me of Corvette Summer! (done playing in the STS-V forum for now)
Love that movie! Or at least the car. As a kid, I always wanted to build that one day. And then when I could, I wasn't interested...I guess that's life....

(Early bird special was over so I came here for some dessert. Florian ate all the pudding!)

CTSV_Rob
11-07-07, 12:35 AM
When I was a kid and I saw that car I thought there was none better and I wanted one! Once I could afford it I decided it was just a tad much. Funny how that works...

I really liked the movie also but I won't watch it now. I watched phantasm (sp?) (the flying silver ball with the built in drill) the other day and told my friend it was one of the scariest movies. Man I was never so embarrassed, it sucked. I'm afraid the same might be true for that movie.

You got to watch out for Florian, always wants to be first and to get it all! Looks like he's no different with the Pudding! I'll bet he cheats at Bingo :D

Well I digress...

Jimmy, I had no idea what that hood came from. You are an artist when it comes to modifying pictures - I am quite impressed.

Kadonny
11-07-07, 08:27 AM
Hate to burst your bubble but you weren't the first.

Don't burst my bubble, we were the first damnit :thehand:

:want::stirpot::thumbsup:

JimmyH
11-07-07, 11:05 AM
Jimmy, I had no idea what that hood came from. You are an artist when it comes to modifying pictures - I am quite impressed.

thanks, but Tony is better :cool2:

CTSV_Rob
11-07-07, 11:31 AM
A bit Modest, You and Tony can work miracles with Photoshop!

trukk
11-07-07, 01:40 PM
<SNIP>

I really liked the movie also but I won't watch it now. I watched phantasm (sp?) (the flying silver ball with the built in drill) the other day and told my friend it was one of the scariest movies. Man I was never so embarrassed, it sucked. I'm afraid the same might be true for that movie.

</SNIP>

The only think I remember about that movie was that AWESOME black Hemicudu. Even if the rest of that movie sucked, the car saves the day!

-Chris

Koooop
11-07-07, 03:03 PM
Much better but the Hood still reminds me of Corvette Summer! (done playing in the STS-V forum for now)

One of my friends owned the "Corvette Summer" car in High School (what a POS).

I'm betting there isn't going to be a bicycle chain and gear under the dash in that V to complete a Right hand steering conversion like the Corvette Summer car had. :banghead: I RODE AROUND IN IT LIKE THAT! :cookoo:

The Tony Show
11-07-07, 03:30 PM
thanks, but Tony is better :cool2:

Hey- thanks, man! :thumbsup:

I spent a lot of time in Photoshop and used my insider knowledge to come up with this rendering of the '09- Tell me what you guys think:

JimmyH
11-07-07, 03:35 PM
uh-oh, you leaked the real deal, kiss your cushy sales job goodbye now...

CTSV_Rob
11-07-07, 04:27 PM
Hey- thanks, man! :thumbsup:

I spent a lot of time in Photoshop and used my insider knowledge to come up with this rendering of the '09- Tell me what you guys think:
Damn, now I think I will trade in my '07 for one of these! :hide:

Did you train Jimmy in the art of Photoshop?

Jon
11-07-07, 05:20 PM
Took about 45 minutes:
http://www.ontariocts.com/images/09v.jpg

urbanski
11-07-07, 05:36 PM
Took about 45 minutes:
[IMG]http://www.ontariocts.com/images/09v.jpg[/IG]

thread title ok for you?

urbanski
11-07-07, 05:36 PM
cool chop, Jon

Jon
11-07-07, 05:39 PM
thread title ok for you?
Sure... Why not?

Cadillac Tony
11-07-07, 06:02 PM
Jon:

Awesome chop! The hood bulge needs to be a little taller, and the side skirts a little lower.....I'll stop talking now. :sneaky:

Expect to see that image stolen and posted on Jalopnik and LeftLane within 48 hours.

Jon
11-07-07, 06:13 PM
Bigger bulge, lower skirt, V emblem.

So what else needs to changed, Tony? :D

http://www.ontariocts.com/images/09v2.jpg

Cadillac Tony
11-07-07, 06:20 PM
:canttalk:

lusterblade
11-07-07, 06:27 PM
five lug wheels:shhh:

Jon
11-07-07, 06:28 PM
five lug wheels:shhh:
Yeah, but I couldn't find any decent 5 lug wheels that I wanted to put on lol.

Silver Dollar
11-07-07, 07:23 PM
Bigger bulge, lower skirt.......


Sounds like tranny trouble to me.

04 Z06
11-07-07, 07:23 PM
Pretty damm close... The car looks damm amazing with that grill.. :worship::worship:

http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2007/09/thumb800x800_1464606631_aaebd7bbcc_o.jpg

http://www.ontariocts.com/images/09v2.jpg

Florian
11-07-07, 08:17 PM
I think Gen I looks better.


F

CTSV_Rob
11-07-07, 08:26 PM
:yeah:

Black out the chrome on the fender AC vents and the Brake duct's Jon.

V-Beach
11-07-07, 08:42 PM
Rear rubber looks skinny?

JimmyH
11-07-07, 08:44 PM
nice work :thumbsup:

lawfive
11-07-07, 09:13 PM
Bigger bulge, lower skirt, V emblem.

So what else needs to changed, Tony? :D



Tires need Armor All. :lol:

Nice job!

Silver Dollar
11-08-07, 11:58 AM
**THIS JUST IN****
GM has just announced a change in design strategy.

The new CTS-V will have more "MHOR!"

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x103/Old_Dollar_Bill/Project16-1.png

Jon
11-08-07, 12:04 PM
**THIS JUST IN****
GM has just announced a change in design strategy.

The new CTS-V will have more "MHOR!"

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x103/Old_Dollar_Bill/Project16.png
I should kick you in the nuts for butchering my picture lol

Silver Dollar
11-08-07, 12:49 PM
I should kick you in the nuts for butchering my picture lol

YbwPm-BgkvE

JimmyH
11-08-07, 01:07 PM
yeah baby, 315 rear tires! AWD 600+ hp, 4400 lbs; the new V should be good for at least 8 mpg right?

heavymetals
11-08-07, 01:12 PM
With the price of gas, I can see more then a few becoming "garage queens".

Silver Dollar
11-08-07, 03:09 PM
It needed more cowbell
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x103/Old_Dollar_Bill/Project17.png

Florian
11-08-07, 03:27 PM
If it looks like that, Im buyin....


F

urbanski
11-08-07, 03:36 PM
It needed more cowbell
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x103/Old_Dollar_Bill/Project17.png

****ING WIN

lawfive
11-08-07, 04:07 PM
it needs teh lambos

CTSV_Rob
11-08-07, 04:20 PM
Holy crap, :histeric:

Should put a double wing on it and show the Nitrous spray coming out of the grille! :helpless:

Silver Dollar
11-08-07, 05:32 PM
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x103/Old_Dollar_Bill/Project18.png

Jon
11-08-07, 05:45 PM
lmao @ better than jon.com

urbanski
11-08-07, 05:56 PM
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x103/Old_Dollar_Bill/Project18.png



PERMANENT supporting membership

CTSV_Rob
11-08-07, 06:16 PM
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x103/Old_Dollar_Bill/Project18.png

Sweet! I'm in for an 09 now!

Nice touch on the web site, You must be wearing a cop...

Jon
11-08-07, 08:17 PM
PERMANENT supporting membership
wtf do I get for making the original picture that he butchered??!

RightTurn
11-08-07, 08:40 PM
You get a "good job, Jon." :highfive:

lawfive
11-08-07, 08:48 PM
Jon!! You got the "good job" and "the hand"! You're THIS CLOSE to the "good hand job"!!

Jon
11-08-07, 08:49 PM
Jon!! You got the "good job" and "the hand"! You're THIS CLOSE to the "good hand job"!!
Wow, I'll take a good hand job over a free membership anyday!

Wait... who's giving?

Silver Dollar
11-08-07, 09:19 PM
Here's Jon working on his photochop

http://supradesign.ytmnd.com/

Venomous-V
11-08-07, 09:39 PM
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x103/Old_Dollar_Bill/Project16-1.png



In all seriousness, I would drive that in a second....Those steam rollers are sick. (hood could be a smidge smaller)

lawfive
11-08-07, 10:45 PM
smidge smaller :rofl:

urbanski
11-09-07, 07:48 AM
wtf do I get for making the original picture that he butchered??!

some silly joke about living in canadia haha :lesley:

The Tony Show
11-09-07, 10:20 AM
Canada:

Leading the world in being North of the United States!


(that joke is so old it can vote, but it's still funny) :lol:

JimmyH
11-09-07, 10:42 AM
Jon getting handjob

[The Tony Show]SD getting goatsed[/The Tony Show]

Jon
11-09-07, 10:46 AM
some silly joke about living in canadia haha :lesley:
http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.phpi/5de73104/canadatop.jpg?cb=1115204527

lawfive
11-09-07, 12:06 PM
i'd make some joke about the canadian currency but... given the state of the u.s. dollar, that shit just ain't funny anymore.

Jon
11-09-07, 12:07 PM
i'd make some joke about the canadian currency but... given the state of the u.s. dollar, that shit just ain't funny anymore.
It's bad for my business (I sell a lot to the US), but good for my dad since he wants to buy a C6.

TexasLonghorn
11-09-07, 12:52 PM
Here are the latest shots. Notice it still has five lug wheels that now look production ready and it also has no sunroof. I don’t think they would track test it this late with out a sunroof if they are not going to offer it without one.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-cts-v-future.html

TexasLonghorn
11-09-07, 01:45 PM
Never mind, I believe those are the Holden wheels. They are also on the G8 that was at SEMA.

The Tony Show
11-09-07, 03:33 PM
That's what I'm talkin' about....

lusterblade
11-09-07, 07:12 PM
you guys have no idea how close to production those wheels are, well now you do:hide:

Venomous-V
11-10-07, 09:44 AM
M2C: dont like the wheels, exhaust, mirrors, little quarter window on back door, vents on the side......but whi knows what the rreal finished project will look like.

WhtDmnd04CTS
11-10-07, 01:00 PM
I was bored just looking around some websites and stumbled onto this..

http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied_vehicles/112_0711_2009_cadillac_cts_v

Cadillacboy
11-10-07, 01:06 PM
Looks cool ,I hope it will be the best car in its class against its rivals

v84life
11-11-07, 01:16 AM
These shots also confirm very nice Brembo's all around with 6-pot fronts. Oh yeah:lildevil: This car is going to kick ass.:D

Kadonny
11-12-07, 09:04 AM
The front camo does a reasonable job of concealing the hood bulge that accommodates the Corvette ZR1's 600-some horsepower supercharged 6.2-liter V-8's blower (for the CTS-V, the engine may be detuned to somewhere around 580 horsepower)

Lol, where do these guys get their information.

Florian
11-12-07, 10:23 AM
you guys have no idea how close to production those wheels are, well now you do:hide:

great, nothing like 2001 Camaro SS wheels......those look like shit. :banghead:


F

StealthV
11-12-07, 11:05 AM
Lol, where do these guys get their information.

From this thread. We've got more inside scoop than :foxnews:

StealthV
11-12-07, 11:09 AM
great, nothing like 2001 Camaro SS wheels......those look like shit. :banghead:


F

Parts-bin engineering. :thumbsup:


Threads a year from now...

My '09 V wheelhops with drag radials, is Doug making a kit?

Took my '09V to the track and guess what happened?

Just put a smaller pulley, headers, exhaust and CAI on my '09V and the diff shattered going 30 mph down the street in second gear.

StealthV
11-12-07, 11:12 AM
Parts-bin engineered pop-tartTM

urbanski
11-12-07, 11:17 AM
Parts-bin engineered pop-tartTM

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n201/therealurbanski/manatee.png

JimmyH
11-12-07, 11:52 AM
Parts-bin engineering.

Is why the V is affordable and the M5 is not.

Koooop
11-12-07, 12:06 PM
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n201/therealurbanski/manatee.png

U are one sick puppy.

Koooop
11-12-07, 12:12 PM
Is why the V is affordable and the M5 is not.

Parts bin engineering is also why the cost of repairs on an aging M5 will be insane and the Caddy won't be so bad.

JimmyH
11-12-07, 12:19 PM
:yeah:

that too

atdeneve
11-12-07, 02:02 PM
From the side it looks like the current gen STS-V.

Anyone else think the rear window looks abnormally small. Almost like the top section was replaced with sheetmetal. Possibly to compensate for the larger moon roof's detraction of chassis rigidity?

JimmyH
11-12-07, 02:39 PM
I don't think the new CTS looks very good. But then I don't think the first gen looks all that great either. Styling is not a CTS-V strong point. But beauty is only skin-deep, and what the V has underneath is what counts.

TheRooster
11-12-07, 03:38 PM
Parts-bin engineering. :thumbsup:


Threads a year from now...

My '09 V wheelhops with drag radials, is Doug making a kit?

Took my '09V to the track and guess what happened?

Just put a smaller pulley, headers, exhaust and CAI on my '09V and the diff shattered going 30 mph down the street in second gear.


Maybe, but have fun doing it!

thebigjimsho
11-12-07, 04:51 PM
I don't think the new CTS looks very good. But then I don't think the first gen looks all that great either. Styling is not a CTS-V strong point. But beauty is only skin-deep, and what the V has underneath is what counts.You are certainly developing into a Prattin' tool in front of my internet eyes...

The current CTS-V is a beast. And a damn fine looking one at that.

StealthV
11-12-07, 05:11 PM
Maybe, but will be whining doing it!

Fixed it for you. No pun intended.

lawfive
11-13-07, 03:21 PM
I don't think the new CTS looks very good. But then I don't think the first gen looks all that great either. Styling is not a CTS-V strong point. But beauty is only skin-deep, and what the V has underneath is what counts.
I love the looks of my CTS-V. As with anything aesthetic, though, one man's art is another man's pool of maggot infested monkey puss.

lawfive
11-13-07, 03:21 PM
BTW: enjoy your lunches.

JimmyH
11-13-07, 03:25 PM
I don't think the CTS-V is a bad looking car. I would not have bought it if I did. I just don't think it is great. There are many sedans that look much better. But the V looks good from the rear. Which on this car, is the most important (and most commonly seen) view.

onebadcad
11-13-07, 04:27 PM
The Gen I CTS-V will become a classic once the Gen II '09 hits the showroom. A conservative estimate is that the value will triple and each of us will become a shareholder with Barrett-Jackson. A Gen I with mileage under 50K will fetch minimum bids of no less than $120K, and if the dollar continues to bottom out, some foreigners would be willing to pay $160+K. My advise is to take out a third mortgage, get a really big warehouse and start storing some Vs for a rainy day.

Okay, I have to remember to put down the pipe before posting...

Silver Dollar
11-13-07, 05:04 PM
......beauty is only skin-deep,....

You don't have to tell this guy......

http://media.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2006/jul/bodydisplay/biker200.jpg

CTSV_Rob
11-13-07, 05:15 PM
I love the looks of my CTS-V. As with anything aesthetic, though, one man's art is another man's pool of maggot infested monkey puss.
Wow, that conjures up some nasty images, surprised no one has posted pics on this yet...

The Tony Show
11-13-07, 05:27 PM
pool of maggot infested monkey puss.

Wow, that conjures up some nasty images, surprised no one has posted pics on this yet...

Here you go:

urbanski
11-13-07, 06:55 PM
New Poll

JonCR96Z
11-13-07, 07:24 PM
I like the new poll

CTSV_Rob
11-13-07, 08:03 PM
Still likin the Gen I V look better and I am hoping for a rear end swap from the 09.

StealthV
11-13-07, 08:53 PM
Amen. Power to the mod hellers.

Shaken, not pop-tarted please. Thank you.

JimmyH
11-13-07, 11:42 PM
Everytime you click you get more casino cash

Why does voting in a poll automatically take you back to page 1.

Annoying.

CTSV_Rob
11-14-07, 12:40 AM
Amen. Power to the mod hellers.

Shaken, not pop-tarted please. Thank you.
Praise the lord of the PCM's!

More strength, more mod, less PT! :bouncy:

Shake it up and spit them out!

Kadonny
11-14-07, 10:19 AM
That poll stinks. DEMOD!

LUVMY04V
11-14-07, 11:41 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RmXgLwzAw7o

ZEUSROTTY
11-14-07, 11:46 AM
Yeah so... I cant wait till January. I want one. Really bad. No I mean really, really bad...

LUVMY04V
11-14-07, 11:48 AM
Yeah so... I cant wait till January. I want one. Really bad. No I mean really, really bad...I know but alot of guys in here hate 20's :D

CopperHead
11-14-07, 12:04 PM
He also mentioned 19s?

FIVEOH!!!
11-14-07, 12:12 PM
I am not going to judge at all till I see the final product of the V line.

LUVMY04V
11-14-07, 12:23 PM
He also mentioned 19s?yeah i just thought that thread title would arouse some cotroversy :yup:

atdeneve
11-14-07, 12:33 PM
It's got two piece rotors.

The Tony Show
11-14-07, 12:47 PM
I only hate 20" wheels if they're heavier and uglier than stock.

I know you were posting the video to try and be a smartass, but notice the part where the styling guru says that the engineers are always fighting for smaller, lighter wheels to reduce chassis load and improve performance? More proof that CTS guys are ruining their cars with heavy aftermarket wheels.

csp3000
11-14-07, 12:55 PM
20inch rims wouldn't bother me at all as long as the following was happening...

At least having 550hp to 600hp with a warranty from GM
New very strong rearend with wheelhop drastically reduced or eliminated
:bouncy:

csp3000
11-14-07, 12:58 PM
Oh ya I just bought lightweight 3 piece 20inch rims from HRE and i believe that that they are lighter than the stock one that we have now if not the same weight...:D

urbanski
11-14-07, 12:59 PM
iata

CIWS
11-14-07, 01:07 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RmXgLwzAw7o


Posted last week.

JimmyH
11-14-07, 01:08 PM
More proof that CTS guys are ruining their cars with heavy aftermarket wheels.

no proof required

JimmyH
11-14-07, 01:09 PM
iata

??

I am not keeping up with my acronyms :bang2:

StealthV
11-14-07, 01:33 PM
Doug Schumacker "There's nothing on a V that's not there for a purpose."

Please explain the pop-tart navTM.

---------------

19" wheels, functional hoodscoop and Recaro seats.

The seats I like. The rest? Trash bin.

LUVMY04V
11-14-07, 01:38 PM
PWNED
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f321/brentman2006/0423071905.jpg

JimmyH
11-14-07, 01:39 PM
Please explain the pop-tart navTM.

It helps to guide you to your destination.

ylwjacket
11-14-07, 02:54 PM
Not sure if this is any more reliable than anything else, but it seems to be emerging as the concensus rumor.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-cts-v-future.html

slothV
11-14-07, 04:08 PM
Not sure if this is any more reliable than anything else, but it seems to be emerging as the concensus rumor.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-cts-v-future.html

Points for posting a link to an article with accurate information.

urbanski
11-14-07, 04:15 PM
*accurate rumors

lawfive
11-14-07, 04:58 PM
??

I am not keeping up with my acronyms :bang2:
"In after the assimilation."

lawfive
11-14-07, 05:04 PM
Doug Schumacker "There's nothing on a V that's not there for a purpose."

Please explain the pop-tart navTM.

:horse::helpless:



It helps to guide you to your destination.

:lol: Dry and deadpan. Nice delivery, Jimmy!

BTW: I've heard that it also displays information about audio programming and other more or less useful data.

urbanski
11-14-07, 05:18 PM
BTW: I've heard that it also displays information about audio programming and other more or less useful data.

pen0r size

StealthV
11-14-07, 05:36 PM
Pop-tart navTM sucks.

Successful companies of the world learned along time ago - Don't let marketing make product decisions.

wildwhl
11-14-07, 05:41 PM
Who is Mark Eting?

:alchi:

StealthV
11-14-07, 05:42 PM
Mark Eting is credited with creating the pop-tart navTM.

urbanski
11-14-07, 05:43 PM
haha

wildwhl
11-14-07, 05:48 PM
Did you say (corn) poop-tart?

lawfive
11-14-07, 06:47 PM
Pop-tart navTM sucks.

So... don't get one, CVP.

lawfive
11-14-07, 06:49 PM
Fender "vents" pretty much suck, too, but why :horse:??

JimmyH
11-14-07, 06:52 PM
fender vents are awesome, I am gonna get some stick ons for my V to complement the dash kit

wildwhl
11-14-07, 06:53 PM
CVP - what are you doing here?

WW ($2)

lawfive
11-14-07, 06:56 PM
Bill!!

urbanski
11-14-07, 06:58 PM
i want fender vents for my dash

wildwhl
11-14-07, 07:02 PM
I can laser cut those, urby!

wildwhl
11-14-07, 07:02 PM
I keep going broke in the casino, dammit!

StealthV
11-14-07, 07:28 PM
News Flash - The casino doesn't exist to make you rich.

And I'm not going to buy a pop-tart navTM.

Tired of it yet? :crying2:

urbanski
11-14-07, 07:39 PM
I can laser cut those, urby!

you need to work on your waterfall :)

CTSV_Rob
11-14-07, 08:10 PM
I keep going broke in the casino, dammit!
I'm going to beat this one into the ground...

What can you do for a Backlit V logo for the instrument cluster?

CTSV_Rob
11-14-07, 08:11 PM
Oh yeah,

09 V

Heavier, Pop tartier, Uglier - When can I trade mine in?

StealthV
11-14-07, 08:15 PM
Remember to get it with a slushbox too!

CTSV_Rob
11-14-07, 08:17 PM
Remember to get it with a slushbox too!
Yeah, got to get the slushbox, I want to be more like Florian!

StealthV
11-14-07, 08:20 PM
What soul the V had is dead in Gen-II.

All the media, which means all the lemmings as well, will rave about the new interior.

http://blogs.webmd.com/eye-on-vision/uploaded_images/lipstick-700032.jpg http://oldbluejacket.com/images/lipstick_on_a_pig.jpg http://blogs.webmd.com/eye-on-vision/uploaded_images/lipstick-700032.jpg

JimmyH
11-14-07, 09:07 PM
i want fender vents for my dash

ill hook ya up

wildwhl
11-14-07, 09:56 PM
you need to work on your waterfall :)

They're out there again, this weekend, with grass, pavers, trees, etc.

:bouncy:

(the economy only sucks when people stop spending cash (not credit, but cash))

wildwhl
11-14-07, 09:57 PM
I'm going to beat this one into the ground...

What can you do for a Backlit V logo for the instrument cluster?

For MY V - anything. Breaking instrument clusters for others is somewhat of a :nono:
:lies:

CTSV_Rob
11-14-07, 10:01 PM
For MY V - anything. Breaking instrument clusters for others is somewhat of a :nono:
:lies:
I can handle breaking the Instrument cluster, I was just wondering if you could make the logo. I am going to rip it out and change the LED's (like I did in the climate control) and I think it would be cool to back light that sweet V logo.

Any ideas?

BTW, if I get a donor Instrument panel how you feel about playing with THAT one?

StealthV
11-14-07, 10:03 PM
You're letting WW play with yours?

TMI.

wildwhl
11-14-07, 10:19 PM
PM please...let's keep Stealth in the dark ;)

StealthV
11-14-07, 10:36 PM
That would be different than....?

'09 V Coupe, stick, AWD, pop-tart delete...hmm....

lawfive
11-14-07, 10:56 PM
'10 V coupe, slush, rwd, nav, sunroof delete... hmmm...

JimmyH
11-14-07, 10:59 PM
paddle shifters.....mmmm......

JimmyH
11-14-07, 11:00 PM
you would think they would offer the V in different content levels like the base CTS. Not that I care, I am not buying one, but it would make sense considering they are upping the volume for genII

StealthV
11-14-07, 11:23 PM
'09 V Coupe, stick, AWD, pop-tart delete...hmm....

On second thought, AMG.

CTSV_Rob
11-14-07, 11:27 PM
You're letting WW play with yours?

TMI.
I let you play with mine, and there is enough to go around.

StealthV
11-14-07, 11:29 PM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachments/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum/36985d1193686384-09-v-rumour-thread-get-ur-thread_direction-1.jpg

lawfive
11-15-07, 12:00 AM
I let you play with mine, and there is enough to go around.
I could make this post pretty gross pretty quickly, but I choose not to.
















Where's F?

StealthV
11-15-07, 12:47 AM
http://www.bork.ca/pics/cars/cadillac/2002%20Cadillac%20Cien%20V12%20concept-fVl%3Dmx%3D.jpg

CTSV_Rob
11-15-07, 12:53 AM
Now THAT is the car Cadillac should put into production! I would probably go into Hock up to my left and right nut to get one of those.

Drem specs:
1000 RWHP
1100 RWTQ
395's on the rear
NO Pop tramp nav
M7
Lambo Doors (JUST kidding!)

StealthV
11-15-07, 12:57 AM
What exactly would you do with that much power? Drive sideways everywhere?

Dream specs:
500 RWHP
550 RWTQ
315's all around (AWD)
NO Pop tramp nav
M8 paddle dual-clutch
Lambo Doors (it's a must)

CTSV_Rob
11-15-07, 01:00 AM
It could be a new form of ALL wheel steering.

Driving sideways doesn't sound like a bad thing to me as long as there is nothing to stop the car!

70eldo
11-15-07, 04:15 AM
What exactly would you do with that much power? Drive sideways everywhere?


Just to impress the neighbour... :D

Kadonny
11-15-07, 08:18 AM
On second thought, AMG.


And the AMG is different how? Slushbox with paddles, heavy boat, reliablity issues..........all you lose on the AMG is the pop tart.

I know you want to preserve the originality and uniqueness of the V, but let's be real here, GM needs to sell cars and adding a 7 speed automatic will help sell cars.

CIWS
11-15-07, 06:04 PM
Can't let the 09 V rumor thread drift too far off the front page :D

JimmyH
11-15-07, 06:14 PM
http://www.cooleywire.com/jimmyh/pics/gif/cts08bling.gif

Cadillac Tony
11-15-07, 06:18 PM
Needs moar spoiler on the back window. :lol:

onebadcad
11-15-07, 06:27 PM
C. Tony,
I heard a rumor that D3 is going to be selected as the official V-series Performance Tuner, and will have sales and tech staff at every Cadillac dealership. True, or is someone just trying to get us excited?

urbanski
11-15-07, 06:36 PM
....

CVP33
11-15-07, 07:04 PM
So... don't get one, CVP.

HUH? I happened to hate the pop up NAV, but I've kept that to myself. I still can't make up my mind. I may keep the SRT-8 and just add a Z06 and get it over with. If I can find a used one this winter for $55K or if GM offers GMS pricing, I'm in. A new 1LZ Z06 is $61K with GMS.

onebadcad
11-15-07, 07:59 PM
A new 1LZ Z06 is $61K with GMS.

Damn, is that $11-12K off MSRP? Buying a new C6Z would be a great choice, but on the downside you would never drive your SRT-8 again, well maybe to the grocery store:lildevil:.

StealthV
11-15-07, 08:28 PM
And the AMG is different how? Slushbox with paddles, heavy boat, reliablity issues..........all you lose on the AMG is the pop tart.

I know you want to preserve the originality and uniqueness of the V, but let's be real here, GM needs to sell cars and adding a 7 speed automatic will help sell cars.

#1. There one advantage that AMG has over ANY GM vehicle - dealer capability. Frankly I'm tired of cheap shitty support.

#2. A 7, 8, 9, bazillion speed transmission is not going to sell more Vs. See #1.

StealthV
11-15-07, 08:29 PM
Selling cars is about building relationships between dealers and customers with trust that lasts for years (and lifetimes!). It's not about building a better mousetrap; Toyota has proven this for years by building crap but supporting it with a "painless" dealer network.

StealthV
11-15-07, 08:33 PM
C. Tony,
I heard a rumor that D3 is going to be selected as the official V-series Performance Tuner, and will have sales and tech staff at every Cadillac dealership. True, or is someone just trying to get us excited?

It's not D3; think Big Bertha Sledgehammer.

CVP33
11-15-07, 09:44 PM
Selling cars is about building relationships between dealers and customers with trust that lasts for years (and lifetimes!). It's not about building a better mousetrap; Toyota has proven this for years by building crap but supporting it with a "painless" dealer network.

Bong, bong, bong we have a winner. Man does that resonate with me.

thebigjimsho
11-15-07, 10:09 PM
Bong, bong, bong... Hey Man! does that resonate with me...No wonder why you can't drive worth a poop...

thebigjimsho
11-15-07, 10:11 PM
Selling cars is about building relationships between dealers and customers with trust that lasts for years (and lifetimes!). It's not about building a better mousetrap; Toyota has proven this for years by building crap but supporting it with a "painless" dealer network.

Bong, bong, bong we have a winner. Man does that resonate with me.So you're saying that you drive crap. Admission is the first step to rehabilitation...

CVP33
11-15-07, 10:56 PM
So you're saying that you drive crap. Admission is the first step to rehabilitation...

I'd rather take a painless crap than put up with a leaking rear end. 'Er, wait a minute. Nevermind, I gotta go peel some NAV buttons. :lildevil:

Cadillac Tony
11-15-07, 11:15 PM
C. Tony,
I heard a rumor that D3 is going to be selected as the official V-series Performance Tuner, and will have sales and tech staff at every Cadillac dealership. True, or is someone just trying to get us excited?

Sorry it took me so long to respond, but I had to finish laughing (not at you, but at whoever told you this). :lol:

D3 rebadges other people's parts and sells them at a profit. There's a market for roof spoilers and heavy wheels I guess, but they aren't a tuner- think of them like JC Whitney.

If Cadillac is going to have an "Official V-Series Tuner", it would most likely be a company that has experience working with the LS series motors and GM, such as Katech, Lingenfelter, Callaway or Mallett.

Also, I wish them the best finding someone for my Dealership that knows more about the V-Series then I do. :devil:

thebigjimsho
11-16-07, 01:10 AM
I'd rather take a painless crap than put up with a leaking rear end. 'Er, wait a minute. Nevermind, I gotta go peel some NAV buttons. :lildevil:Damn! And now I've got the words anal seepage back in my head again...

JimmyH
11-16-07, 11:20 AM
Most of the reviews I have read of these 7 and 8 speed transmissions say that the lower gears are too far apart, and the upper gears are too close together.

Silver Dollar
11-16-07, 11:43 AM
Damn! And now I've got the words anal seepage back in my head again...

bOVmSw6wTZk

Kadonny
11-16-07, 04:15 PM
Selling cars is about building relationships between dealers and customers with trust that lasts for years (and lifetimes!). It's not about building a better mousetrap; Toyota has proven this for years by building crap but supporting it with a "painless" dealer network.

Agreed, but I know more than my share of people who you can't give a Benz to because of the exact same issues. Face it, all cars have problems, certain dealers are better than others no matter what brand car you buy.

lawfive
11-16-07, 04:19 PM
wut kadonny sed

urbanski
11-16-07, 05:14 PM
wut L5 said

urbanski
11-16-07, 05:14 PM
*sed

JonCR96Z
11-16-07, 05:16 PM
*sed
:lies:

CVP33
11-16-07, 05:46 PM
:lies:

:jesda: Whammy.

JimmyH
11-16-07, 06:23 PM
:chad: im hungry for sum moar rumours please

StealthV
11-16-07, 07:35 PM
Just got this juicy one - Mhor raceway in Colorado will be testing the '09 V the first week of December.

MHOR Raceway (http://www.mhorrc.com/)

trukk
11-17-07, 12:45 PM
Just got this juicy one - Mhor raceway in Colorado will be testing the '09 V the first week of December.

MHOR Raceway (http://www.mhorrc.com/)

'09 CTS-V mule was at VIR Nov 5th. Some of the guys that went down for the Chin event indicated that they saw one, up close and personal :D

-Chris

mole177
11-18-07, 04:33 PM
holy crap... 173 pages?

can we get a new thread started about this?

RightTurn
11-18-07, 05:07 PM
:umno: If you start a new one, urby will just merge it into this one. :lol:

urbanski
11-19-07, 08:34 AM
holy crap... 173 pages?

can we get a new thread started about this?

no. not until we have confirmation.

onebadcad
11-19-07, 12:01 PM
This thread should never die, it is much more fun that the '09 CTS-V could ever be.

JimmyH
11-19-07, 01:07 PM
no. not until we have confirmation.

even then, no new threads. The 09 is gonna be a lead sled. Make a new forum for those folks interested in the GM version of the SRT.

Kadonny
11-19-07, 01:35 PM
holy crap... 173 pages?

can we get a new thread started about this?


No, how about you spend a little more time to learn why this thread is 173 pages.

Thank you, back to the regularly scheduled programming.

CTSV_Rob
11-19-07, 04:44 PM
even then, no new threads. The 09 is gonna be a lead sled. Make a new forum for those folks interested in the GM version of the SRT.
:yeah:

onebadcad
11-19-07, 04:52 PM
even then, no new threads. The 09 is gonna be a lead sled. Make a new forum for those folks interested in the GM version of the SRT.

... and please bury on the bottom of the front page. I really do not need to interact with the newbies and their 'better' Vs. I would rather hang out with the 'Old School' guys who wear their V battle scars proudly.

verbs
11-19-07, 06:12 PM
Just curious as to who has put deposits down, how much, and did they give you any price guarantee as far as locking in MSRP.

CIWS
11-19-07, 06:15 PM
Not going to put a deposit down on a car that there are very little if any details about yet. Much less one I haven't driven.

Slapshot
11-19-07, 06:29 PM
Motor Trend is saying that the corvette bluedevil will be the renamed the ZR-1. ZR being shorthand for "Zora's Racer" in honour of Zora Arkus Duntov the Father of the modern 'Vette. MT goes on to say that the '09 CTS V will get the supercharged 6.3 vette engine "detuned" to "less than 600" HP...

That sounds like pretty good news... 500+ horse power should make a "lead sled" haul the mail don't you think Jimmy?

verbs
11-19-07, 07:08 PM
Just curious as to who has put deposits down, how much, and did they give you any price guarantee as far as locking in MSRP.

I'm not sure why the mods decided to merge my thread about actual deposits on 2009 CTS-Vs into a rumors thread...:suspense:

JimmyH
11-19-07, 07:08 PM
... and please bury on the bottom of the front page. I really do not need to interact with the newbies and their 'better' Vs. I would rather hang out with the 'Old School' guys who wear their V battle scars proudly.

Well, for a while, I think the newbs with their "better" V's are going to be rich old guys, most of whom do not know what an internet forum is.

500+ horse power should make a "lead sled" haul the mail don't you think Jimmy?

Yeah, in a straight line. The SRT does not have close to the handling prowess of the CTS-V, yet is has a far more punishing ride. Why? Because of 500 lbs of extra dead weight. I would give up 50 hp (from my bone stock 400) if I could give away 500 lbs with it. And supposedly, the 09 V is going to be about the weight of an SRT (4300 lbs). The current CTS-V is already a pig at 3800 lbs. I don't understand why it was anymore than 3500 lbs.

JimmyH
11-19-07, 07:10 PM
I'm not sure why the mods decided to merge my thread about actual deposits on 2009 CTS-Vs into a rumors thread...:suspense:

Because this is the first gen CTS-V forum. I have been saying for months there should be a second gen CTS-V forum. Many of us do not care about the next gen V and do not care to discuss it.

RightTurn
11-19-07, 10:15 PM
Because this is the first gen CTS-V forum. I have been saying for months there should be a second gen CTS-V forum. Many of us do not care about the next gen V and do not care to discuss it.

:confused::confused: Then why participate in this thread? :hmm:

JimmyH
11-19-07, 11:07 PM
:confused::confused: Then why participate in this thread? :hmm:

because like you, I have nothing better to do

I just want to dole out some dissing on the car I won't be buying. :thepan:

ehem, mrs-I-am-too-afraid-to-buy-an-STS-V

thebigjimsho
11-19-07, 11:18 PM
Poop...

RightTurn
11-19-07, 11:35 PM
:yeah:

CTSV_Rob
11-19-07, 11:38 PM
One heavy Pop tart Poop..

CTSV_Rob
11-19-07, 11:40 PM
Saw a nice Mallet V in the classified's. RT should sell her CTS and buy that one.

JimmyH
11-19-07, 11:49 PM
Saw a nice Mallet V in the classified's. RT should sell her CTS and buy that one.

oh good God do not say that