: Talked to GM-500+ hp



Dean400hp
05-24-07, 09:25 AM
wow-we had a show at the Cadillac dealership for the pre race here in Charlotte NC today. so they introduce me to big wig GM guy and I also talked with 2 drivers, #8 Pilgrim and #1 Lawson!! what a blast, we compared cars!
any how, the GM guy said for a fact that the fall of 2008 the 2009 V vill be out and will definatley have over 500hp!! it will have STS rear end.

P.S. both drivers signed my sun visor----is that an instant $5000 added to value of car..:)

kjr39
05-24-07, 09:39 AM
Sweet!

I've been seeing more Vs around Charlotte... Gotta a black/black with the only personalized plate I've seen in town...

12race
05-24-07, 09:40 AM
I would think you should get value add on the signed visors. When Carrol Shelby signed the dashboard of a GT500 recently, it jumped in value.

BTW - I watched your videos posted on the web, the oh @#$% its a cop, the car overview and when you picked it up after the upgrades.... Nice and you are a hoot....

So, I am getting ready to do a cam, headers and CAI. I have B&B on the car already with a resonator. Did you run resonator or x pipe with the headers. Also, if you will share, what cam did you install?

Thanks,

Tim - 12race

ahahnu
05-24-07, 10:41 AM
"I'll give you $5 for the used Kenny Logins record."
"But it's signed!"
"Ok I'll give you four."

trukk
05-24-07, 11:27 AM
In a story about the G8 in GMHTP mag, they indicate that "it is unlikely that the G8 GXP will get the 500+ HP LSA (supercharged LS3?)". More food (or rumor) for thought I guess.

Btw, whatever engine ends up in there I bet it will "Do zero to sixty in zero seconds. You're there before you left" ;)

-Chris

OzarksHillbilly
05-24-07, 11:45 AM
I confess to having mixed emotions about the likelihood of a 500+-hp V for 2009.

On the one hand, I'd love to see Cadillac continue to develop our wonderful vehicle, even if it causes me (owner of a 2005) extreme fits of jealousy.

On the other hand, if GM experiences a crisis of conscience and decides the path to a successful future is eco-green, then maybe there won't be another V, in which case we'd have instant collector'$$$ items in our garages.

I guess we win either way, either long-term or short-term...

Florian
05-24-07, 11:51 AM
it will have STS rear end.


Dean,

They want you to buy a new car....it wont have 500HP, and the fact that it has the shitty STS rear tells us they havent learned a thing....too bad.



F

V-Max
05-24-07, 12:43 PM
..and you don't know the guys name?

Figure less than 500HP but torque to win the stop watch race. :)


Norm

ronr
05-24-07, 01:07 PM
Dean,

They want you to buy a new car....it wont have 500HP, and the fact that it has the shitty STS rear tells us they havent learned a thing....too bad.



F

A good friend of mine is working on troubleshooting procedures for the new rear and it may be "an STS rear end" but it certainly isn't the current STS rear end.

LV_V
05-24-07, 02:04 PM
I think the guy you spoke with was VERY misinformed. He probably had no idea what the F he was talking about. An "STS rearend", what does that even refer to? An STS-V rearend? An STS V6 rearend? And "500HP"? Highly doubt it; I WISH, but doubt it. It appears that he is just rambling about heresay and is full of shit.

Would you like to know how I really feel about it?? :rant2:

Kadonny
05-24-07, 02:06 PM
In a story about the G8 in GMHTP mag, they indicate that "it is unlikely that the G8 GXP will get the 500+ HP LSA (supercharged LS3?)". More food (or rumor) for thought I guess.

-Chris

Chris, I read the same thing, but I thought GMHTP said without question that the 2009 V will be the blown LSA.

I believe that article stated something like (paraphrasing): "The G8 GXP will not have the same engine as the 2009 CTS-V (which will have the LSA, a supercharged LS3) boasting over 500 horsepower.

It read somthing like that........I think.

TXSilverV
05-24-07, 02:37 PM
I think it will have the new LSX at 500CI with a procharger! and a 9" rear! LOL
does anyone really know a thing about the new V?

trukk
05-24-07, 02:50 PM
Chris, I read the same thing, but I thought GMHTP said without question that the 2009 V will be the blown LSA.

I believe that article stated something like (paraphrasing): "The G8 GXP will not have the same engine as the 2009 CTS-V (which will have the LSA, a supercharged LS3) boasting over 500 horsepower.

It read somthing like that........I think.

DOH, i forgot to add the rest of the quote. "..like the 2009 CTS-V". I'll edit my post to add that part.

-Chris

Hmm, it won;t let me edit that post. Odd.

mbiker97_old
05-24-07, 03:01 PM
does anyone really know a thing about the new V?

I only know what I have seen with my own eyes at a certain prototype building for a certain auto manufacturer. ;)

Can't say specifics since they don't exactly list them for motor and which rear end, but there will be a few really big changes as far as the car itself.

kjr39
05-24-07, 03:27 PM
mbiker, you certainly should sneak your phone in 4 a pic.

nickc50310
05-24-07, 03:48 PM
Glad to see youre still around Dean!!

I sure hope the new V can get me there before I left!! LOL!! Actually Im not that much of a fan of the new CTS. Sadly I am eyeballing the V8 G8 as my next ride.

Anyway, I might be in Charlotte in October for a panthers game. If thats the case I must meet the legend that is Dean400hp!! Ill keep ya posted on that one!

GO PANTHERS!!!

jasaero
05-24-07, 03:48 PM
Why so much doubt that the new V will have 500+hp??? I am quite sure it will. They benchmarked the last gen M5 for our cars, only makes sense they benchmark and better the current M5 for the next one.

mbiker97_old
05-24-07, 04:55 PM
mbiker, you certainly should sneak your phone in 4 a pic.

Not worth my job. ;) I know of at least 2 people that have tried that before and are no longer employed.

ZEUSROTTY
05-24-07, 05:33 PM
I would think you should get value add on the signed visors. When Carrol Shelby signed the dashboard of a GT500 recently, it jumped in value.

BTW - I watched your videos posted on the web, the oh @#$% its a cop, the car overview and when you picked it up after the upgrades.... Nice and you are a hoot....

So, I am getting ready to do a cam, headers and CAI. I have B&B on the car already with a resonator. Did you run resonator or x pipe with the headers. Also, if you will share, what cam did you install?

Thanks,

Tim - 12race

Carol Shelby is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different than a driver... I say no added value and maybe even a decline...

The Tony Show
05-24-07, 06:09 PM
Carol Shelby is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different than a driver... I say no added value and maybe even a decline...

F-that: I'll give you $200 cash to switch sunvisors with me right now.

Would the average dealer give more for it? No way- but for someone who knows it's cool as hell.

Silver Dollar
05-24-07, 06:12 PM
....does anyone really know a thing about the new V?

The only thing I know for sure is that it will come standard with lambo doors and whistle tips.

urbanski
05-24-07, 06:22 PM
The only thing I know for sure is that it will come standard with lambo doors and whistle tips.

sweet, im in

Silver Dollar
05-24-07, 07:18 PM
of course, who wouldn't be :)

rand49er
05-24-07, 09:30 PM
... whistle tips.Geez, am I out of it.

Got no idea what these are. :confused:

Gettin' old ... :helpless:

Dennisscars
05-24-07, 09:55 PM
Geez, am I out of it.

Got no idea what these are. :confused:

Gettin' old ... :helpless:
s'up?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA





why would anyone spend money on a Ford wagon?

Lindsay Cadillac
05-24-07, 10:09 PM
F-that: I'll give you $200 cash to switch sunvisors with me right now.

Would the average dealer give more for it? No way- but for someone who knows it's cool as hell.
Did you watch the V-series IDL today???

V-Love
05-24-07, 10:40 PM
s'up?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA



Those are cool! If your 12. Its like baseball cards in your spokes, or the soda can trick in your forks. That 'nappy headed ho' loves her some decorations.
I like Marcello Cabrera's comment, "whatever people want, I'll sell it". I believe it.

bossplayer
05-24-07, 10:45 PM
I want whistle tip cutouts.... :want:

Woo wooooooo!!!!

V-Love
05-24-07, 10:52 PM
wow-we had a show at the Cadillac dealership for the pre race here in Charlotte NC today. so they introduce me to big wig GM guy and I also talked with 2 drivers, #8 Pilgrim and #1 Lawson!! what a blast, we compared cars!
any how, the GM guy said for a fact that the fall of 2008 the 2009 V vill be out and will definatley have over 500hp!! it will have STS rear end.

P.S. both drivers signed my sun visor----is that an instant $5000 added to value of car..:)

Sweet story. My neighbor sat next to Pilgrim on a plane and said he was a real nice guy. I would let Pilgrim sign my visor. Jimmie Johnson too. 500+ here we come!!! I hope they leave it naturally aspirated, make lots of aftermarket parts from the race team available, honor our legit warranty work, bring the interior up to date with options, put in front and rear cameras for tracking and backing, more bells and whistles, and of course......less weight. A guy can dream.

heavypedal
05-25-07, 09:52 AM
p.s. Talked to a Caddy service manager the other day....he stated next Z06 (500HP) will be in the next V.

I'm at the point now I want to put a BS chart together...and whichever lie has the most points wins (and must be true) ;)

T'

heavypedal
05-25-07, 09:54 AM
Ah.... Bubb Rubb and Lil Sis never get old....

"Dats only in da mournin....you should be up cuking brekfast or sumtin"

T

The Tony Show
05-25-07, 09:57 AM
Did you watch the V-series IDL today???

No, crap- I missed it. Was busy with a delivery.

arr0gant
05-25-07, 10:25 AM
I confess to having mixed emotions about the likelihood of a 500+-hp V for 2009.

On the one hand, I'd love to see Cadillac continue to develop our wonderful vehicle, even if it causes me (owner of a 2005) extreme fits of jealousy.

On the other hand, if GM experiences a crisis of conscience and decides the path to a successful future is eco-green, then maybe there won't be another V, in which case we'd have instant collector'$$$ items in our garages.

I guess we win either way, either long-term or short-term...

I think GM has to decide if the V is the direction they want to continue to take. They are losing money and they need to do whatever keeps them afloat.

I mean, do you guys think GM see's the GM performance division as a viable business decision to keep the V's going forward? Has the V gotten a big enough following? Will it continue to grow? I'm not so sure GM thinks so... :( I just don't see enough of them, and they had SO many problems...

I disagree that it's good for V-owners if the V goes away. I would not count on it being a collectors Item.

CMON 500BHP!!!

DEAN, WE NEED MORE VIDEOS, BRO!!!

Future quote (I hope)
Dean500hp: The 500BHP CTS-V, 0-60 in... NEGATIVE 1 seconds, you're LITERALLY there, before you left. The CTS-V, Timetravel in style! W0000t! :highfive:

CIWS
05-25-07, 11:34 AM
The trick will be if GM/Cadillac has learned anything from it's first V design. If they have and incorporate design changes to improve the model and give it a wider possible buyer demographic, it can be more succesful.

trukk
05-25-07, 12:43 PM
Did you watch the V-series IDL today???

Spill the beans!

-Chris

Dean400hp
05-25-07, 04:56 PM
Hey you guys! sorry I dont get in here much anymore, got the big raise and they expect me to work from now on..hehe

Good to see all the response from this, there was actually more I just didnt have time to tell you. Pilgrim and Lawson sat in my car and jaws dropped when I started it! they said it sounded like there race car- lawson is 23 and has a silver V of his own that he drives, he loves the car. I told the GM guy about some of the problems we all have had and he said they have been aware of all of them and have fixed everything for 2009, I told him the only way I would by another is if it could compete with z06, he said that was the plan! otherwise I am just going to put more HP into the one I have.

To answer the question about CAM, I have the Patrick G cam, all torque. B&B headers and exhaust, loud as hell! Dealer is taking my B&B cats off next month after they do inspection sticker.....hold your ears!

Miss all of you freaks-Ill check back in a month :)

BeagleBrains
05-25-07, 05:54 PM
Supercharged. Turbocharged. Unreliable.
Anything other than a naturally aspirated LS7 505+ engine is pure bull crap!

lonestranger
05-25-07, 06:01 PM
I was under the impression that the "06" V diff (which has found its way into most of our V's), is the same as the STS-V now!! Was I misinformed??:confused: Inquiring minds want to know!!:bouncy: