: '70 Deville Tires



3rd
04-16-07, 10:27 AM
I finnaly got my baby insured and registered and on the road legally:thumbsup: , took it to goodyear and got her a checkup, they told me the belts are crackin and need to be replaced, the carburetor needs to be cleaned and....... the tires are a lil bit rotted and need to be replaced:gasp2:, theyre HUGE, goodyear says they dont make tires that big anymore and would have to be special ordered whitewalls, so Im askin yall, do you know anywhere where I can get a good deal on some big ass whitewalls that fit on a 1970 sedan deville? Thanks alot people, ur always a help:worship:

eldorado99
04-16-07, 01:24 PM
Look for some Broadway Classics, cheap, big white wall, decent performing tire.

fleetwood76
04-16-07, 01:29 PM
Hello.

If it is the standard wheels for the full size cadillacs is the size the same as on the later broughams and Fleetwood broughams, in other words, all the RWD cadillacs have tires with the "modern" size 235/75 R15 or 225/75 R15 or 215/75 R15 that is only the witht that differ slighty between the tires i wrote.
They are pretty easy to get hold of if you settle with only the thinner whitewall (3/4" i think) if you want the wider i give you this link from this forum where the subjekt was up not long ago.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/rwd-19xx-1985-deville-fleetwood-1985/100017-discontinued-tires.html?highlight=whitewalls

Good luck

jolle

3rd
04-16-07, 01:32 PM
yea I was trynna pm u eldorado99 about the tires but it wouldnt let me because i didnt have enough posts yet, wut size tires fit on urs? I havnt had to change them until now som im not really sure wut size im lookin for


o ok, thanks fleetwood76

eldorado99
04-16-07, 02:28 PM
I bought the Broadway Classics for my '70, and they are 235/75 R15.

3rd
04-16-07, 05:01 PM
just to be positive something like this would be ok?

http://store.coker.com/product.php?productid=16734&cat=0&page=1

also this link was very helpful in understanding tire size info, saved me from askin another question

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=46

jayoldschool
04-16-07, 08:02 PM
[QUOTE=3rd;1051437]just to be positive something like this would be ok?

http://store.coker.com/product.php?productid=16734&cat=0&page=1

QUOTE]

Yes, but you can get them for about $30 less per tire than that price... email this place:

http://myworld.ebay.com/tuckertire/

Benzilla
04-16-07, 08:42 PM
just to be positive something like this would be ok?

http://store.coker.com/product.php?productid=16734&cat=0&page=1



Yes, but you can get them for about $30 less per tire than that price... email this place:

http://myworld.ebay.com/tuckertire/
I don't even need to talk anymore, lol.

mharker
04-16-07, 09:35 PM
Yeah I too lament that Michelin and other big names have abandoned us.

However a couple months ago I found some WSW Goodyear Regatta 2s for my 96 Roadmaster. I'm no expert but I imagine they would fit your 70.

At first it took some time to get used to the unusual sidewall texture but now I kinda like it.

Come to think about it I should store a set now for my 68 before they also stop making them.

Johnny Bravo
04-16-07, 10:03 PM
I finnaly got my baby insured and registered and on the road legally:thumbsup: , took it to goodyear and got her a checkup, they told me the belts are crackin and need to be replaced, the carburetor needs to be cleaned and....... the tires are a lil bit rotted and need to be replaced:gasp2:, theyre HUGE, goodyear says they dont make tires that big anymore and would have to be special ordered whitewalls, :
Don't listen to those idiots at Goodyear, you can find 215, 225, or 235-15 inch white walls no problem, (I wouldn't trust them for mechanical work either).
Keep in mind, mail order tires are going to bang you for shipping, then you'll pay over $20 per tire to get them mounted and balanced.

If you want a modern, quiet, smooth riding tire check out a Firestone store for the Bridgestone Insignia SE-200. They have a 1 inch white wall and none of those hideous serrations like on the Goodyears and Michelins.

http://www.roadwaywholesaletire.com/Bridgestone-Insignia-SE200.htm

By the way, tires prices are negotiable, try to haggle them down a little before signing anything.

Benzilla
04-16-07, 10:28 PM
Go with the Broadway classics/Dimension IV's. Your Cadillac will thank you and the stares you get will repay you.

For your 1970, get the 235 series. It has a slightly wider whitewall than the 215/225 series. About 1.5 inch. It will make your car stand out in a great way.

And their not that expensive, they ride wonderful, it's great!

Cadillac Giovanni
04-16-07, 11:06 PM
Yeah, totally go with the 235s. I put a set of them on my 89 Brougham, and I love them. The wider whitewalls really help the car stand out, whether it's what was original or not.

Here are the 215s on Benzilla's coupe.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/Cadillac_guy/100_0888-1.jpg

And here's the 235s on my 89 Brougham.

http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs15/f/2007/090/7/a/My_Car__s_Tire_by_HoratioGiovanni.jpg

The whitewall is a beet beefier and the tire fills out a bit more, but don't listen to anyone who says they look too big or wide for a Cadillac. They're just fine. I got mine from Tucker Tire, that ebay link that's been thrown around here lately. Great deals, indeed.

They sure do help the car stand out. There's not much else out there with a white wall like that nowadays.

moai
04-16-07, 11:57 PM
I am not sure where you live, but I found these guys:

http://www.stocktonwheel.com/Nostalgia_Tires.htm

The prices are pretty good, and you can get WIDE whitewalls. They are over the hill from me, so i can enjoy a nice drive to get there, too.

I am putting the 235's with the 3" whitewall on mine as soon as I get the $$$ together. A week or two.

eldorado99
04-17-07, 01:46 AM
I too think the beefier 235s look better than the 215s. Something about the fat looking tire with the fat whitewall looks good to me, more like a Cadillac should be IMO. The slim looking tires look kinda wimpy to me, at least on a bigger car like my 70' it does, it might be ok on the smaller late seventies Devilles, but even then I'd be inclined to go for 235s. :)


Yeah, totally go with the 235s. I put a set of them on my 89 Brougham, and I love them. The wider whitewalls really help the car stand out, whether it's what was original or not.

Here are the 215s on Benzilla's coupe.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/Cadillac_guy/100_0888-1.jpg

And here's the 235s on my 89 Brougham.

http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs15/f/2007/090/7/a/My_Car__s_Tire_by_HoratioGiovanni.jpg

The whitewall is a beet beefier and the tire fills out a bit more, but don't listen to anyone who says they look too big or wide for a Cadillac. They're just fine. I got mine from Tucker Tire, that ebay link that's been thrown around here lately. Great deals, indeed.

They sure do help the car stand out. There's not much else out there with a white wall like that nowadays.

3rd
04-17-07, 04:39 PM
thanks alot for all your answers people, Ill check these places out:worship:

deVille33
04-19-07, 11:24 PM
Personally I've found more wear problems with 235's on narrow rims ( 6" ). I prefer to mount 235's on 6 1/2 - 7" rims.

cadillacmike68
04-21-07, 11:59 PM
The original size for your car was either 9.00-15 or L78-15.

The 9.00-15 refers to the cross sectional width of 9.00 inches or 229mm wide. the L78-15 refers to the old letter coded diameter (L being just about the largest diameter for a car) with the 78 being the percentage of the tire height compared to the width (the height being 78% of the width in this case)

I think these two sizes are identical or nearly identical. But tires aren't sold in those sizes anymore.

The closest modern sized tire is 235-75R-15. The idea is to keep the same overall diameter as the original tires to keep the speedometer accurate, etc.

The 235 is the width in mm (as opposed to the 229mm of the 9.00 inch size).

The 75 is the percent of the height to the 235mm width (makes sense a bit lower profile - 75 to 78 - offset by a bit wider 235 vs 229mm).

The 15 is still the wheel diameter.

I don't like that size and use 235-70-15 on my 1968 DVC and my 1995 Fleetwood. This is the proper size for the Fleetwood. It's getting hard to find this size in whitewall though! The tire is a bit smaller in overall diameter but it's less than 5% off. (I think - someone do the math please) but looks much better and this way I don't have two different sizes to deal with. the wheels actuall fit either car!

Does anybody have a letter size conversion table???? :confused:

mharker
04-22-07, 12:03 AM
Hey Cadillacmike68. Just thought I'd let you know my name is also Mike and I have a 68. Small world.

3rd
05-09-07, 11:10 AM
Well I just found the piece of paper they gave me with the stuff that needed to be fixed and they have the tires listed as 255... could they have been tellin the truth?


also, these tires...

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUTO-TRUCK-OR-TRAILER-TIRES-235-75R15_W0QQitemZ5617550794QQihZ015QQcategoryZ1467QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

..say whitewall in the description one time but theres no picture of it and the dude WILL NOT email me back when I ask him, are these really whitewalls or wut?

z06bigbird
05-09-07, 11:38 AM
Michelin makes a Symmetry tire with a thin whitewall. Avail at Sams and Walmart plus "tire dealers everywhere."

Old Fleetwood
05-09-07, 01:08 PM
Tire size chart coming right up:

3rd
05-09-07, 02:48 PM
*sigh* trucker tire's tires only have a 5/8th inch white wall.... ruined my day, now Im gonna have to find a different place that sells cheap whitewalls

cadydaddy
05-09-07, 08:20 PM
My 94 fleetwood has 235/70/15...is that the stock tire or is it 75? thanks.

3rd
05-10-07, 10:46 AM
Ok Im havin a hard time with the chart Old Fleetwood, since goodyear wrote something on the paper saying 255 can I assume the tire size is 255/70R15 like the last cell under the 70-series says, so should I be getting a 235/70 or 235/75 or would it really make a difference?

3rd
05-16-07, 10:56 AM
anybody?:confused:

Old Fleetwood
05-16-07, 02:24 PM
Just like the chart above, TIRE RACK can be thanked for the goodie below.

3rd
06-21-07, 11:15 AM
hahahaaaaaaaaaiiii suck at math...

anyway I want these > http://www.rrrclc.org/images/06_Lahaska%20(68).JPG
I think the whitewall is the perfect size for what Im lookin for, also this is the same car as mine so I know theyll look just as good, anybody know where to get some whitewalls this size for cheap? Trucker Tire let me down and Tire Rack and Tires-Easy arent showin me any whitewalls, they do have wheels in 255/70 like Goodyear said my IMPOSSIBLE TO REPLACE without a SPECIAL ORDER tires are - is this somethin I should be looking at? And Coker isnt really helpin me find anything cheap, also, ebay is a joke when it comes to this Im seeing

z06bigbird
06-21-07, 06:02 PM
I finnaly got my baby insured and registered and on the road legally:thumbsup: , took it to goodyear and got her a checkup, they told me the belts are crackin and need to be replaced, the carburetor needs to be cleaned and....... the tires are a lil bit rotted and need to be replaced:gasp2:, theyre HUGE, goodyear says they dont make tires that big anymore and would have to be special ordered whitewalls, so Im askin yall, do you know anywhere where I can get a good deal on some big ass whitewalls that fit on a 1970 sedan deville? Thanks alot people, ur always a help:worship:

Don't spend $$ on carb repair. Buy a $3 can of spray Gum Out. You can also pour some in gas tank for another $3.

Try Walmart and Sams computer mail order for tires.

3rd
06-22-07, 01:17 AM
Im still VERY open to suggestions on a good whitewall source...

3rd
06-22-07, 10:36 AM
why dont I have an edit option for all my posts?

anyway... the P255/70's thats on my car right now musta cost the previous owner an arm and a leg because I cant find any whitewalls that size for under 190 a piece:rant2:

turaboy
06-25-07, 12:15 AM
These aren't the wide whitewalls, but they ride nice, and are inexpensive...
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Solus+KR21&partnum=375TR5KR21&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=3

I just bought my second set for my 74 6-door Limo (I got the XL version). If you really need tires, it might be a good way to "make do" until you can scrounge up $800 for wide whites. :bigroll:

3rd
06-25-07, 05:47 PM
awwww man

is this really the only thing Im lookin at unless I wanna spend over 3 hundred?