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#1 ·
Below is a paste of my contact with them
any and all people who WILL buy, ie NO DREAMERS NO MAYBES this is YES I WILL BUY IT, they estimate about a 45 hp increase (thats what they got with the 4.6 07 DTS) and cost to be like all of their tunes, roughly 400 dollars.
I NEED THE VIN NUMBERS AND SERVICE NUMBERS FROM THE ECM OF ALL TRULY INTERESTED PARTIES!
List them below in IN THIS FORMAT PLEASE (to make it easier to follow)
thanks alot guys

YEAR: 1997
MODEL: Eldorado Touring Coupe
VIN: 1G6ET1293VU616146
SERVICE #: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (i have to look at mine i cannot right now)




EMAIL:

If you want a start on this,
have people on the forum submit to you their VIN numbers with computer Service numbers.

We need both. When it gets to the tuning point after the intitial R&D is done, we'll need a couple vehicles here.

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com
MAHA Chassis Dyno
1-888-WESTER-1


----- Original Message -----
From: <plzbreakthecycle@aim.com>
To: <nwester@eidnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:39 AM
Subject: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune


> I understand what you mean about the r&d and then no buyers however
> youd have several things going for you 1. youd be the only source to
> go to for this tune seeing how everyone else
wont touch it.
> 2. it cant be that much harder or more involved than what youve
> already
done to crack the 04+ 4.6 FWD northstar in the DTS and the rwd STS.
> 3. I spent 1k for a prototype chip built by JET performance alone and
> all
it did was modify shift points and advance the curve slightly, several people on the forum have offered to buy it from me for the 1k, your tunes cost half as much and do so much more so i know the interest it there
> thanks alot!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwester@eidnet.org
> To: plzbreakthecycle@aol.com
> Sent: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Northstar Tune
>
>
> We've heard this a lot. And this is what happens--we spend 30-40K in
> R&D
and
> sell two editing systems.
> We're planning to have a solution for the Cadillac customers
> (1996-2003)
as
> soon as possible.
>
> Lyndon
> www.ecmprogrammer.com
> MAHA Chassis Dyno
> 1-888-WESTER-1
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason" <plzbreakthecycle@aol.com>
> To: <nwester@eidnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:13 AM
> Subject: Northstar Tune
>
>
> > I see you guys offer tuning for the 4.6 L OBD2 N* as well as for the
> > new 4.4 S/C N* Do you guys have any tuning available for the OBD2
> > FWD 4.6 Northstar used from 96-99?
> > Many people on my forum are dying for some tuning software
> > Thanks alot
> >
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#11 ·
if your in then do as i said
i really need to get this ball rolling please provide me with the info i asked for
the serivce number is as i said on the computer itself and it will state it is a service number THIS IS NOT THE PART NUMBER!

Jadcock= they state the claim but OBVIOUSLY b/c this is a different version of the northstar used in the DTS the numbers wont be the exact same but when it comes down to it, its the only possibility PERIOD! once this is hacked we can add cams, pistions etc etc etc to a stock car that in itself is worth it!
 
#16 ·
Theyve been working with it
theyve come to the decision due to the proof i provided them about the failed supercharger project on caddy info that people really want to mod these cars
that added to the fact that they would be the ONLY source for this made it easy to convince
heres the deal
they need cars to be brought to this address:

Westers Garage
218 Centre Street
Tilley, Alberta Canada

any person who brings their car there will recieve a free tune (about 450 dollar value) more than enough to reimburse someone for driving a little ways to go there.
 
#61 ·
hey I PMd tbyrne, they're a Vendor here and they may sell Westers tunes. I'd feel better if a Vendor was involved in all this. Dont know, maybe they can help

Thanks for the "heads up"! :)

We've been carrying the Westers tuning for years and I've run it in a number of my own vehicles with very good results. I'll see what they have to say about these on Monday.

Have a good weekend!
Tom
 
#23 ·
thanks Urb
i sent a PM to Sal requesting to speak with him but never herd back
i was going to ask if it was possible to post like an alert or something because i really need those vins can service numbers and also i wanted you guys to know about it so its not like im trying to sell anything

clark again im just speakin for what they told me not the site, we could do anything turbo s.c etc etc but in stock form we look to gain roughly 40 hp
 
#29 ·
We'd probably need some STS cars to start with--ultimately, we always start
with the computers only--and then get in some cars to do dyno work with.
Gains are estimated at around 40 hp

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com
Westers Garage
218 Centre Street
Tilley, Alberta Canada
T0J 3K0
1-888-WESTER-1
1 403 377 CARS
1-403 377 2270 (Fax)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason" <plzbreakthecycle@aol.com>
To: "'Programmer'" <lwester@telusplanet.net>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune


> Perhaps I can help believe me I have time whats the amount you are
> looking to spend on a car? In my opinion finding a 96-99 Eldorado
> would be the best, they are the cheapest when compared to the Seville
> and Deville and from 96-99 the Eldo used the same computer and
> programming as the 96-97 Seville STS (98 was a redesign for the
> Seville and in only 98-99 would the computer be identical because the
> northstar was redesigned in 00) and 96-99 Deville Concourse.
> those models all used the 300 HP vin 9 N*, how much in gains are estimated?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Programmer [mailto:lwester@telusplanet.net]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 4:48 PM
> To: Jason
> Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune
>
> I'd need it for several weeks. I don't think you want to 'hang around'
> while we decrypt everything...LOL...it's ok, we'll try find a local
> car.
>
> Lyndon
> www.ecmprogrammer.com
> Westers Garage
> 218 Centre Street
> Tilley, Alberta Canada
> T0J 3K0
> 1-888-WESTER-1
> 1 403 377 CARS
> 1-403 377 2270 (Fax)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason" <plzbreakthecycle@aol.com>
> To: "'Programmer'" <lwester@telusplanet.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 2:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune
>
>
>> Westers Garage
>> 218 Centre Street
>> Tilley, Alberta Canada
>> That's the address correct?
>> School is almost over for me and I can probably drive my car up there
>> for testing however it depends on how long this would take and your
> sure
>> you can hack it correct?
>>
>> Thanks a lot!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Programmer [mailto:lwester@telusplanet.net]
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 4:24 PM
>> To: Jason
>> Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune
>>
>> We'd need them here, unfortunately. We'll be looking for cars in the
>> next months...we've normally had to buy them to figure out every
>> quirk...
>>
>> Lyndon
>> www.ecmprogrammer.com
>> Westers Garage
>> 218 Centre Street
>> Tilley, Alberta Canada
>> T0J 3K0
>> 1-888-WESTER-1
>> 1 403 377 CARS
>> 1-403 377 2270 (Fax)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jason" <plzbreakthecycle@aol.com>
>> To: "'Programmer'" <lwester@telusplanet.net>
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 2:06 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune
>>
>>
>>> Were do you need the cars?
>>> are there several locations throughtout the US we can take them or
>> only
>>> the main building?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Programmer [mailto:lwester@telusplanet.net]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:47 PM
>>> To: plzbreakthecycle@aim.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune
>>>
>>> We're not going to want any money up front. We ARE going to need
>>> some cars here in a month.
>>>
>>> Lyndon
>>> www.ecmprogrammer.com
>>> Westers Garage
>>> 218 Centre Street
>>> Tilley, Alberta Canada
>>> T0J 3K0
>>> 1-888-WESTER-1
>>> 1 403 377 CARS
>>> 1-403 377 2270 (Fax)
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <plzbreakthecycle@aim.com>
>>> To: <lwester@telusplanet.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune
>>>
>>>
>>>> Oh i know how to find the vin its also on my windsheild theres
>> several
>>>
>>>> numbers on the pcm and wanted to be sure i was getting the right
> one.
>>>> i have let everyone know and thus far we have about 8 with money
>> ready
>>> to
>>>> deposit as soon as theres a tune and i have about 20 cars PCM and
> VIN
>>> info
>>>>
>>>> just curious and they wanted to know too we've been waiting for a
>> tune
>>> for
>>>> several years since the 96 switch to obd2. major projects were
>> planned
>>> to
>>>> produce a supercharger for it, JETalong with XMS (www.x-m-s.com)
>>>> was designing the hack but couldnt do it and gave up after several
> years,
>>>> believe me there IS the interest heres the page dedicated to the N*
>>>> supercharger http://www.caddyinfo.com/northstarsupercharger.htm
>>>> everything was done for it, the charger, piping EVERYTHING several
>>> people
>>>> had already made deposits with XMS for the package however the N*
>>> couldnt
>>>> be hacked and they gave up...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: lwester@telusplanet.net
>>>> To: plzbreakthecycle@aol.com
>>>> Sent: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Serv. No. XXXXXXXX on the computer.
>>>>
>>>> VIN number is on the door and windshield lower drivers' side.
>>>>
>>>> That's how it's found.
>>>>
>>>> Lyndon
>>>> www.ecmprogrammer.com
>>>> Westers Garage 218 Centre Street Tilley, Alberta Canada T0J 3K0
>>>> 1-888-WESTER-1
>>>> 1 403 377 CARS
>>>> 1-403 377 2270 (Fax)
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason"
> <plzbreakthecycle@aol.com>
>>>> To: "'Programmer'" <nwester@eidnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:29 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune
>>>>
>>>>> Where would we find the computer service number there are several
>>>>> numbers on it If need a break down of the computers ECM wise 96-99
>>>>> was one break
>>> down
>>>>> and then 00-05 used the newer Northstar which had lower emissions
>> and
>>>>> ran on low grade fuel. > I will pass this on and start on it asap,
> I
>>>>> myself am located in
>>>>> Pittsburgh PA so id love to help but I don't assume you guys have
>>>>> a
>>> shop
>>>>> near me.
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Programmer [mailto:nwester@eidnet.org] > Sent: Thursday,
> March
>>> 15,
>>>>> 2007 3:34 PM
>>>>> To: plzbreakthecycle@aim.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune
>>>>> > If you want a start on this,
>>>>> have people on the forum submit to you their VIN numbers with
>>> computer
>>>>> Service numbers.
>>>>> > We need both. When it gets to the tuning point after the
>>>>> > intitial
>>> R&D
>>>>> > is
>>>>> done, we'll need a couple vehicles here.
>>>>> > Lyndon
>>>>> www.ecmprogrammer.com
>>>>> MAHA Chassis Dyno
>>>>> 1-888-WESTER-1
>>>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From:
>>>>> > > <plzbreakthecycle@aim.com>
>>>>> To: <nwester@eidnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:39 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Spam] Re: Northstar Tune
>>>>> > >> I understand what you mean about the r&d and then no buyers
>>>>>> however youd have several things going for you
>>>>>> 1. youd be the only source to go to for this tune seeing how
>>> everyone
>>>>> else
>>>>> wont touch it.
>>>>>> 2. it cant be that much harder or more involved than what youve
>>>>> already
>>>>> done to crack the 04+ 4.6 FWD northstar in the DTS and the rwd
>>>>> STS.
>>>>>> 3. I spent 1k for a prototype chip built by JET performance alone
>>> and
>>>>> all
>>>>> it did was modify shift points and advance the curve slightly,
>>> several
>>>>> people on the forum have offered to buy it from me for the 1k,
>>>>> your tunes cost half as much and do so much more so i know the
>>>>> interest it
>> there
>>>>>> thanks alot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nwester@eidnet.org
>>>>>> To: plzbreakthecycle@aol.com
>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:01 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Northstar Tune
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've heard this a lot. And this is what happens--we spend 30-40K
>> in
>>>>> R&D
>>>>> and
>>>>>> sell two editing systems.
>>>>>> We're planning to have a solution for the Cadillac customers
>>>>> (1996-2003)
>>>>> as
>>>>>> soon as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lyndon
>>>>>> www.ecmprogrammer.com
>>>>>> MAHA Chassis Dyno
>>>>>> 1-888-WESTER-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jason"
>>> <plzbreakthecycle@aol.com>
>>>>>> To: <nwester@eidnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:13 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Northstar Tune
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I see you guys offer tuning for the 4.6 L OBD2 N* as well as
>>>>>> > for
>>> the
>>>>> new
>>>>>> > 4.4 S/C N*
>>>>>> > Do you guys have any tuning available for the OBD2 FWD 4.6
>>>>> Northstar
>>>>>> > used from 96-99?
>>>>>> > Many people on my forum are dying for some tuning software
>>>>>> > Thanks alot
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> __
>>>>>> Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and
>>>>> industry-leading
>>>>> spam and email virus protection.
>>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> __
>>>> Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and
>>> industry-leading
>>>> spam and email virus protection.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
#33 ·
We'd probably need some STS cars to start with--ultimately, we always start
with the computers only--and then get in some cars to do dyno work with.
Gains are estimated at around 40 hp

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com
Westers Garage
218 Centre Street
Well, there it is. Just like when a contractor says, "I estimate it to take 2 weeks to finish your kitchen" . We all know how that turns out.
 
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