: Is it terrible in the snow



Doctore
02-27-07, 01:07 AM
I live in Toronto, sometimes very snowy. I saw a 2007 STS-V I could probably get for $56 or $57K in the U.S. and bring it up here. It's got 1400 miles. I'm concerned, however, about how it'll handle Canadian winters. Any advice? (In Canada this car sells for equiv of $85K U.S. Thanks.

RunningOnEMT
02-27-07, 01:09 AM
get some really nice snow tires and keep your foot off the floor and you'll be ok ...

i drove my CTS-V 425 miles in a winter storm over the weekend, did ok except around 1 turn i had the stability system kick in for a second

steveLT1
02-27-07, 09:27 AM
I also am considering a CTS-V...my wife is making me get down to one car. I currently have a vette which never sees a bad day. But, with one car, I need something that can get me through all the seasons. The V made sense as it is comfortable, yet I would still have the power I have grown to love. Would a V still get me to work? Has anyone else had any snow experience they could offer? Hell, currently my winter ride is a '93 Ford Escort, if the V at least matches that then I'm good!!

Kadonny
02-27-07, 09:28 AM
I won't drive mine in the snow. God bless those who do.

me_dimitri
02-27-07, 01:02 PM
I live in Toronto as well...

The car would be unusable without snow tires in the Winter, but with them it is fine.

I have had mine for about a month and have Blizzaks installed on the stock rims, (seems like a very good tire). It has bought me to work safely through the last two snow storms that everyone whined about.

Just go easy on the accelerator and enjoy the comfy cabin and heated seats / steering wheel.

Now that I'm getting the feel of the car, (the threshold when the traction control kicks in / braking times etc.), I am feeling very comfortable in the Canuck Winter.

I leased mine and there was a very good package offered. I downsized from a Corvette Vert and a GMC Jimmy.

Dimitri
T.O.

Doctore
03-01-07, 12:05 AM
I live in Toronto as well...

The car would be unusable without snow tires in the Winter, but with them it is fine.

I have had mine for about a month and have Blizzaks installed on the stock rims, (seems like a very good tire). It has bought me to work safely through the last two snow storms that everyone whined about.

Just go easy on the accelerator and enjoy the comfy cabin and heated seats / steering wheel.

Now that I'm getting the feel of the car, (the threshold when the traction control kicks in / braking times etc.), I am feeling very comfortable in the Canuck Winter.

I leased mine and there was a very good package offered. I downsized from a Corvette Vert and a GMC Jimmy.

Dimitri
T.O.
Thanks for your reply. What do you think of the price I'm quoted for the car?

Berger 93
03-01-07, 11:55 AM
On stock tires I just stuck in a small snow storm . . . very unfriendly to drive.

When Pirelli say the tires are not meant for snow use they mean it.

Now stab on some nice M+S tires, and I'd say it would be fine.

me_dimitri
03-01-07, 07:10 PM
Your price looks very good to me...
I am assuming that warranty and inclusive service would be intact in Canada?

you chould definitely check on that, as it is a big part of the value of the car.

Get some Blizzaks or other good snows right away if you are going to drive it in weather like we have today, the Pirellis are not even functional in very cold / albeit dry conditions.

As mentioned there are some very attractive lease incentives on the car in Canada, (.5% financing over 39 months with some price reductions as well).

So if the Warranty and all-inclusive service does not work on a cross border car, you may want to consider this.

Either way, I am loving the car more every day...
Way faster than it feels and decadent inside.

Regards,

Dimitri
T.O.

Albertan
03-02-07, 06:57 PM
I brought a CTS-V in from the USA. Re Warrenty: Gm will NOT warrenty the car UNTIL it is 6 months old AND 12,000KM on odometer. Canada also needs daytime running lights and kilometres on the speedo which is no problem. Make sure you go through a customs broker to do the importing, it will make things easy. You do not want to import it wrong and have it seized!
Bruce

JimKathy1
03-15-07, 10:27 PM
Hello..........I'm buying my STS-V next Feb and I live in Chicago and travel often to Wisconsin.............Since I live in a condo and lack storage room, I need to have one set of tires all year round for both snow and dry weather.

Any suggestions would be appreciated..............I love this website.

Jim

Davidstan
03-16-07, 09:34 AM
Nice planning ahead! :)

me_dimitri
03-16-07, 10:49 AM
Hello..........I'm buying my STS-V next Feb and I live in Chicago and travel often to Wisconsin.............Since I live in a condo and lack storage room, I need to have one set of tires all year round for both snow and dry weather.

Any suggestions would be appreciated..............I love this website.

Jim


You must be a Boy Scout with that kind of advance preparation...

My personal opinion, (I'm in Toronto and have had my V for just over one month), is the car is not drivable in the Winter without _high quality_ snows.

Find a dealer that will store your Summer tires if you buy the snows from them, (they exist, mine did it).

I have Blizzaks on the stock rims and they have worked fine in some brutal weather.

Best of luck,

Dimitri
T.O.

JimKathy1
03-16-07, 12:12 PM
Well, I'm not a boy scout but I've been around long enough to know that timing and planning are two of the secrets of success in life.

Do you have all four snows on there or just the rear tires? I saw that the recommendation by the manufacturer is for all four. (I know they are trying to sell their tires)

Does anyone in the Chicagoland area have a tire dealer that will store your summer tires for you?

Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it.

Jim

z06bigbird
03-30-07, 08:35 PM
I also am considering a CTS-V...my wife is making me get down to one car. I currently have a vette which never sees a bad day. But, with one car, I need something that can get me through all the seasons. The V made sense as it is comfortable, yet I would still have the power I have grown to love. Would a V still get me to work? Has anyone else had any snow experience they could offer? Hell, currently my winter ride is a '93 Ford Escort, if the V at least matches that then I'm good!!

Dang!! Are people lining up to buy that Escort? Hell, I thought I was embarassed to drive an Olds Cutlass.

Just yanking your chain.

Ed

Doctore
04-20-07, 02:59 AM
I would love to speak to you more about the car. Maybe you could e-mail me and I'll give you my number. I live in North York. Address is drhealthclinic@rogers.com Thanks, L.

Jesda
04-22-07, 12:44 PM
Heck, just stack the snow tires up in your bedroom. Chicks will think you're super manly.

z06bigbird
04-26-07, 12:07 AM
Thanks for your reply. What do you think of the price I'm quoted for the car?

I have seen threads about new STS Vs for 57 to 58 here over the past few weeks. ???

ryneV
05-03-07, 08:02 AM
get some really nice snow tires and keep your foot off the floor and you'll be ok ...

i drove my CTS-V 425 miles in a winter storm over the weekend, did ok except around 1 turn i had the stability system kick in for a second

:highfive:

z06bigbird
05-03-07, 11:58 AM
I keep a beater car, esp when my main drive is an expensive car.

rgettyshill
05-16-07, 04:45 PM
Should be warned if you are considering buying an STS

I have a three year (prepaid) lease on a 2007 STS. I took delivery the last day of November 2006.

I would like to begin my critique by saying there are features on my new STS that I think are marvelous. The Adaptive Cruise Control augmented by the Head Up Display puts the STS in a class by itself. I know of no other vehicle that offers this and I can tell you I would never buy another car with out it. For someone who is always balancing safety against making the best time, this relieves an immense amount of stress. It is so much fun to drive I wish I had an excuse to drive cross-country and back.

In addition to the above mentioned amazing attributes I find the performance of the car, in general, resembles that of the Mercedes Sports Car I drove over the Alps a few years ago. Lotís of fun. Amazingly sporty. But, you feel every bump in the road.

Now for the problem:

I have been driving automobiles for 65 years. You may be sure in 65 years I have driven over tens of thousands of miles on wretched, snowy, icy, treacherous roads. I have always felt completely in charge though, admittedly, sometimes scared.

Therefore, imagine my astonishment on trying to maneuver my new STS on its first snowy day to find the car is tortuously unmanageable in slippery conditions. For two hours of terrified driving I was astounded to find that attempting to accelerate was painfully slow and unnerving while trying to control the vehiclesí direction Ė and, while feeling distressing chagrin for the poor soul behind me who, Iím sure, could not believe than any car could be so unresponsive.

This carís performance in snow is simply unacceptable with the tires with which it is equipped. On yet another day, with one and a half inches of snow on level asphalt I stopped to open my garage door and then spent the next half hour trying to go the next 30 feet. I finally got out and swept two tracks in the snow before my two front tires (they seem to act more like snow plows) would allow me to enter the garage.

This car should not be sold without a warning concerning its hopeless winter performance. And, its on-line description should make this clear. (I have here to admit that I purchased this car without ever seeing or driving one. Something I have never been so foolish to do before in my life.)

I took the on-line descriptions as being gospel. Oh how imprudent can you be?

I have written twice and visited the dealer that sold me the car requesting a change of tires. No response or satisfaction. I would think someone that sells you a $65,000 automobile would feel some responsibility for their customerís safety if not their satisfaction but apparently not.

I am hopping that, with this blog, I can warn anyone thinking of purchasing an STS to be aware of this problem and, maybe, even get a response from someone higher up in the Cadillac Corporation. Weíll see.