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    Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    Well this year I decided I should do something with my 2008 Escalade or get something else. If you could get a CTS-V in all wheel drive it would likely be gone. I hardly ever drive it, only has ~14,000kms on it but when I take a road trip in the winter AWD is a must.

    Anyway decided to build as close to a V as I could get in a SUV, I already had the basics like CAI, exhaust and a programmer done from new but that was nowhere near enough. So went with makeover stage #1. lowered it 2-3 and put a set of Hotchkis sway bars (hcvone is dead on with this being a must). Stage #2 brakes, my Baer 6 piston Extreme + 15" front and 14" rear (couldn't get 15" in the Baer for the back) kit just came in and is getting installed tomorrow (looks simple enough and if I had the time would do it myself). Stage #3 planned to happen before the end of Jan is a supercharger, long tube headers and Y with a custom tune.

    I'll try to get some pics up tomorrow with the new stopping power
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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    This is what I did with mine, its the best mod yet!! Reworked heads, long tube headers, new computer, built tranny, monster injectors, bigger fuel pump, larger throttlebody, coldair intake, intercooler, high flow cats and custom exhaust.

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    If yours has an 8.5 rear, consider also putting a 9.5 in it as well. I broke an axle in my 8.5 so changed to ESV 2WD 3.42 limited slip 9.5 unit. Requires bastard ujoint or new driveshaft. Recommend driveshaft because nose is about 1 in longer on 9.5, and it takes a larger ujoint. Bigger axle tubes on 9.5 might also hit exhaust if lowered three inches.

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    They do make the 15" rotors for the rear in extreme +, I was the first and second customer with them, think they were custom but there is a part number, when I find some pics I will post them. You should be good with what you want to do, have done that to many of my trucks and never had an issues, really want to supercharge one of the 12's

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvone View Post
    They do make the 15" rotors for the rear in extreme +, I was the first and second customer with them, think they were custom but there is a part number, when I find some pics I will post them. You should be good with what you want to do, have done that to many of my trucks and never had an issues, really want to supercharge one of the 12's
    Damn wish I would have known that, would have prefered 15 all around

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    hcvone have you ever had problems with the front factory 22" rims not fitting in the front? Shop just called and said the spokes touch the calipers on the front with stock rims?? Not happy right now.

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by 71Dragtruck View Post
    hcvone have you ever had problems with the front factory 22" rims not fitting in the front? Shop just called and said the spokes touch the calipers on the front with stock rims?? Not happy right now.
    if its not off by much, you can get spacers to clear the calipers. they fit between the hub and rim.

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by 71Dragtruck View Post
    hcvone have you ever had problems with the front factory 22" rims not fitting in the front? Shop just called and said the spokes touch the calipers on the front with stock rims?? Not happy right now.
    No even my 20" GM wheels fit, never had a rubbing issue caused by the Baer calipers, it was close but no rubbing, I know a few people using the same brake setup in the front and never heard of rubbing or needing shims, my shop guy said the same thing

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    WTH mine need spacers to clear??

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    My shop guy said make sure it's not the flashing from the casting of the wheel that is causing the issue of the rub, he claims one of my wheels needed the extra casting flashing to be sanded off, I don't remember that but he is much younger than me so it maybe true, he said like I said there is not much clearance but they don't rub

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    No it's not just flashing, I have 1/4" spacers in and they barely clear. No sure if Baer changed something or what is up, im going to call them today.

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    Can anyone confirm this story????


    The rumor/story I heard and possible reason for my delema is that at one point in time when GM was having issues with pealing rims they changed suppliers only to have the same issues and worse in some cases, so they went back to the original supplier. So even though all the rims look the same when compared side to side there are sets out there that are a bit different in the spoke area that don't clear big brake kits as well as others.

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    Sounds cool, but I guess I just don't understand the logic in spending all of that money on an ~6000 pound tank trying to make it fast and sporty.
    Spend that money on a sports car. That's what they are made for. Maybe it's just me.

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    What about the actual rotor thickness? Or the caliper bracket. The caliper itself can be the same size and fit differently on different trucks and wheels if the rotor is different thickness near the hub or 2 piece vs. one piece rotor etc. A thick rotor would be the equivalent of having a spacer built in. I am suggesting that your wheel might not be different from another wheel that does work with this setup. I'm not ruling it out either. Even a difference in front hubs (originals vs replacements) could affect the caliper when the fit is that tight.

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    Re: Stage 2 will be complete tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by ELUSIVE View Post
    Sounds cool, but I guess I just don't understand the logic in spending all of that money on an ~6000 pound tank trying to make it fast and sporty.
    Spend that money on a sports car. That's what they are made for. Maybe it's just me.
    Guess I like outside the box, everbody and their dog has a sports car, also the reason I have a all steel street legal NHRA spec truck that runs mid 10's in 3800DA.

    Quote Originally Posted by prosseda View Post
    What about the actual rotor thickness? Or the caliper bracket. The caliper itself can be the same size and fit differently on different trucks and wheels if the rotor is different thickness near the hub or 2 piece vs. one piece rotor etc. A thick rotor would be the equivalent of having a spacer built in. I am suggesting that your wheel might not be different from another wheel that does work with this setup. I'm not ruling it out either. Even a difference in front hubs (originals vs replacements) could affect the caliper when the fit is that tight.
    I checked and Baer has not changed any of the above in their kits like I have. It works with spacers, I just don't like using them.

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