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    corroded brake lines

    I have a 2005 escalade, front brake line rusted out and popped anyone else have this problem?also does anyone have an idea of what it might cost to fix?

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    Wow. I'll have to look at mine to see if I have a problem.

    I'm a little paranoid lately about brake lines, had one burst in my driveway on my 98 Olds. Lucky it was there and not on I95 the last time it was moved. It appears to be the same problem as yours, brake corroded lines. On my 98 I guess I can see it happening, but on something that much newer?

    I'm starting to wonder if we need to paint/coat some of these vulnerable parts under our vehicles in the winter salt areas.

    Depending on the brake line length, fittings, etc you might be able to make one cheaply. I've done a few in my younger years when you could buy the fittings, brake line, and a bending tool. It was kind of fun to make my own hard lines for only a few dollars and some of my time.

    If you buy one already made I'd be surprised if you're not paying a lot of money, even more if you're having the dealership install it.

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    I just replaced a line on a 2001 Tahoe for a friend. I got a loaner tool from Advance to flare tubing I had left over from another brake job. The Tahoe needed a double flaring tool. Advance sells 3/16" tubing also. Recently I have seen a lot of issues with brake lines. I, myself had one on the rear blow out on 95 at 70 mph when the fuel tanker in front of me locked up all 18 wheels. When we stopped there was only inches between us. Thank the Lord.

    Personally, I believe the tubing may be foreign or a lower grade. Never had problems before.

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    Same problem here. Line feeding left rear developed a pinhole. Every line appears to be unpainted, thin, mild steel; everywhere they touch something and can collect salt - bad rusted. Dealership sold me a "kit" with every hard line; pre-flared and pre-bent. (did not feel like trying to make my own 4 foot long line with a dozen bends in it). Guess what - they appear to be powder coated with a really thick, nice coating.

    Also saw this link:

    http://www.abcactionnews.com/money/c...t1376563067304

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    Quote Originally Posted by cbuttre835 View Post
    Same problem here. Line feeding left rear developed a pinhole. Every line appears to be unpainted, thin, mild steel; everywhere they touch something and can collect salt - bad rusted. Dealership sold me a "kit" with every hard line; pre-flared and pre-bent. (did not feel like trying to make my own 4 foot long line with a dozen bends in it). Guess what - they appear to be powder coated with a really thick, nice coating.

    Also saw this link:

    http://www.abcactionnews.com/money/c...t1376563067304
    Interesting although not surprising considering that a lot of us have this problem. The news report you referenced showed an NHTSA investigation that I found here. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...h&summary=true

    It looks like they've expanded the investigation thru the 2006 model year. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...001-53286P.pdf

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    It sounds like a common problem with trucks in areas that use a lot of road salt. I imagine the factory lines are regular steel. It would probably be a pain but you could make them or have an Indy shop make them out of stainless steel.

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    Quote Originally Posted by Retrax View Post
    It sounds like a common problem with trucks in areas that use a lot of road salt. I imagine the factory lines are regular steel. It would probably be a pain but you could make them or have an Indy shop make them out of stainless steel.
    The problem is that it isn't only trucks, but cars suffering from this problem as well. I lost the brake line on my 98 Oldsmobile due to severe rust/corrosion.

    The other issue is that the manufacturer should never have made the brake lines with regular steel to begin with on such a critical safety item.

    The Germans don't use regular steel, I found that out when researching replacement brake lines for my Oldsmobile. They also aren't using stainless but a nickel-copper blend that is easy to bend/form, strong, and not susceptible to rusting. I ended up buying this type of line for my Olds, sold under the brand 'ni-copp'. It was super easy to install and I should never have to worry about that section of line again. And it only costs about twice as much as regular replacement brake line, in the scheme of things that might be what, $20 more per vehicle? Skimping on something like paint, trim coating, etc. to save $20 I understand, but brake lines? I would hope a manufacturer wouldn't do something like this on airbags or seatbelts.

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    Wake in this day and times they try to cut corners as much as possible

    Given the amount of recalls lately I have seen it seems to come back and get them but some (cough Toyota) thinks they are above all when they're cars runaway or cause public safety issues

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    I had a line pop in December, less than a week before I was going to take the truck on a 700 mile road trip! I almost wrecked into the back of someone in front of me. In fact, I had a dashcam running at the time and put the video on Youtube. It turned out to be one of the flex sections under the master cylinder. I had to take it to a shop and have them replace the bad section, but after researching this problem, I made the decision right then to replace all of them in the spring.

    Mission creep set in, and I now have a whole set of prebent stainless lines from Inline Tube (www.inlinetube.com), front calipers and rotors for an 07+ (13" rotors as opposed to 12"), new rear rotors, new pads, and a set of stainless flex lines all waiting to go in. Brakes are one thing I do not want to have to worry about. That was scary as hell.

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    Black 88 I know how you feel on brakes

    Lately I have had two people decide to get right in front of me(knowing it takes me longer to stop) and slam on the brakes making me have to slam on the brakes( my rear brakes tend to lock up at times)

    The old guy knew I was coming and had a lane free beside me yet pulled out in front of me(not fun)
    I think I will be upgrading my brakes soon as I can't stand people trying to get me to hit them for they're stupidity

    The old lady decided to slam on the brakes even though the person in front of her was turning off causing me to have to slam on the brakes and when I went to pass her she wanted to speed up

    I think I am surrounded by nuts in my area who want people to hit them just for fun

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    Seen a rig dynamite its rear axel when the driver locked her up the freeway to avoid a crash. I was right beside him in the other lane and some lucky nobody was behind him as the rear wheels and axel skidded to a stop brakes locked up solid and no longer attached to the trailer. Don't follow behind anything that is being towed after that one longer then I have to.

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    The hydro boost brake booster seal leaks in these trucks also and you will see a leak on the ground as far back as your driver door and around the drivers side tire area. If you take the old line off and use it to bend you up a new line based on what you took off probably whole thing line and all would be $50 even if you got someone to bend it. The hydroboost unit is pricy I think was $300 but very easy to change.

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    I plan on painting critical areas like that with POR-15 soon. I'm moving to CT this summer and from living up North before, I know how the salt takes a big toll on steel! I had the brake line rust out on my '94 Deville, luckily I was able to get the car stopped.

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    Quote Originally Posted by Black88GTA View Post
    Mission creep set in, and I now have a whole set of prebent stainless lines from Inline Tube (www.inlinetube.com), front calipers and rotors for an 07+ (13" rotors as opposed to 12"), new rear rotors, new pads, and a set of stainless flex lines all waiting to go in. Brakes are one thing I do not want to have to worry about. That was scary as hell.
    Ouch! $175.00 per line looks like almost $1600.00 just for the brake lines plus additional parts and labor.

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    Quote Originally Posted by Retrax View Post
    Ouch! $175.00 per line looks like almost $1600.00 just for the brake lines plus additional parts and labor.
    Wow, no way I would have paid that just for the lines...I bought a kit that cost about $450 plus $20 or so for shipping. They have a premade kit for our trucks, since this is such a common problem. The kit includes 10 lines - the only one that's missing is a short one under the hood that goes to some kind of power modulation valve. I got an OEM replacement for this one, since it's high up and completely under the hood, away from the salt spray that destroys the others. I'll be doing all the work myself once it warms up.

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    Re: corroded brake lines

    $450.00 is much better. I'll have to take a closer look. All I found the first time was a list of nine lines that were needed to do the whole truck indicating the factory steel lines were $140.00 each and their stainless ones were $175.00 each X 9 lines. I'll have to look for the pre made kit.

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