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Cadillac Escalade, EXT and ESV Forum - 1999 - 2006 Discussion, Off-Roading with the Escalade? in Cadillac Escalade Forums; I used to drive a '99 Yukon before the '04 Escalade that I currently own and proud of. I used ...
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    Wink Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    I used to drive a '99 Yukon before the '04 Escalade that I currently own and proud of. I used the Yukon for a number of off-road activities, ranging from towing stuck vehicles to transporting camping equipment to 4-wheeling on sand dunes, I even used it as an overnight shelter a couple of times. (Desert camping is a favorite past-time during the winter season in Kuwait, where I live)

    I know this is too much to ask of an Escalade, but i was just wondering if anyone was curious enough to try the AWD system on it and going offroad. I just bought an '04 model, sans the DVD & navi equipment, and i was hoping to find anyone testing the AWD in an environment that demanded AWD.

    My apologies if i raised some eyebrows in shock & awe! :-)

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    Your Escalade will be as good as your Tukon was off road, I drive my Escalade through foot deep mud, and through snow that is several feet deep at my upstate NY home without any problems, don't try that with the stock tires, but with good tires you will not have any problems.

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    Won't he loose some traction in sand with AWD?
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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    Quote Originally Posted by slk230mb
    Won't he loose some traction in sand with AWD?
    I have not noticed a difference from the Suburban's to the Escalade in traction, I only have been in the sand twice that I remember.

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    My 2000 sees sand a lot more than it should.. atleast my giovannas seem to think so. But anyhow, I surf and I'm on the beach quite often. After a few dry spells the sand gets really deep and soft. A few times I bogged down in 2wd and threw it in 4wd and crimbed right out with no problems on my Perilli Scorpion Zeros. I wouldn't say I'd go nuts in the dunes... But I have been considering lifting her and getting some of those 35" all terrain Nittos that fit 22s. The only problem I see with escalades off roads is the cost of replacing broken parts. If your running her hard off-road theres not much avoiding a broken part once in a while. If you got the cash for it and a mechanic you trust, knock yourself out.

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    If you REALLY want to go off-roading, I'd save the Escalade as a posh luxury road cruiser and get something like a HUMMER H1 or H2, a Jeep CJ or YJ, or a LandCruiser. My wife and I have our toys (my Blingscalade/family wagon and her H2 off-road behemoth) and it works out nicely.

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    I had a Denali and it was great in the sand. I would advise much reduced air pressure if you do any serious sand driving though.

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    I have my escalade at the sand dunes quite often. However you need to spinn your wheels to move the sand. If you have the AWD version, you will need to turn off the stability control, otherwise the computer will not allow the wheens to spin in the deep sand. I had to turn mine off just to pull my ATV trailer out of the sand

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    I remember reading an article where they test several trucks off-roading. There was a 2003 AWD Escalade with them and it was the only truck that got stuck in deep mud.

    They also say stabilitrac actually freezed the vehicle and wouldn't let it move. They had to tow it out!

    I think it is a known fact that if you want to go in deep sand or mud you'd better switch off stabilitrac.

    Don't remember which site was it but they seemed professional to do this mistake.

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    I dunno about off-roading, but here in Calgary in February we drive in deep snow. Not a problem. The All-Wheel Drive is seamless in its' operation and makes the road feel like it is contaminant free.

    I have found the Stabilitrak to be a little overprotective - nanny-ish - but with my Wife driving the kids around I can live with it. Being able to turn it off is a good feature.

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    Just like Sambossa said- the AWD and traction control will immobilize your truck in a low traction sandy condition. I experienced this crippling condition in a Deville one time while high centerd on a stump with one wheel not touching the ground. I wouldn't move. The OBS with the low range transfer case and locking diff can function with only one wheel on the ground. I have bent my running boards up on both sides rock climbing in Wa state where no 02 dare show its face. Fun indeed!

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    I agree, Stabilitrak, ground clearance, tires, cost of replacement parts, all these factors do play a significant part in the lower-than-desired off-road capability of the Escalade, compared to the Yukon, at least.

    Regarding the broken parts, assuming that the warranty ran out on the Escalade, you can pretty much use any Denali-specified GM part that's compatible. H2 is another distant cousin...the Escalade shares the same 6.0 as the H2, doesn't it?

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    I agree with the above, one of the things that drew me to my Avalanche and away from the Escalade EXT this time around (though next time I probably will get a last series Escalade anyway) is the fact that I found it somewhat odd that the Chevy has BOTH switchable ALL/2WD AND a USABLE low range gear. It has been beyond me why the Escalade doesnt have the same system, but I can guarantee you the Escalade would find many situations where getting stuck would be a possibility with just AWD. Its just not designed for that kind of abuse. Its primary goal is to provide pavement pounders with just enough to save themselves if found in a sticky situation, and then to protect them in slippery or loose traction surfaces with the Stabilitrac.

    On the flipside of the argument, my 04 Av does not have Stabilitrak, but I have found the AWD system to be adequate for most situations on pavement. 05's have it now.

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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    I would like an AWD/2WD drive selector, my reasoning for it being left off the Escalades is that Cadillac probably figured that the people who would buy an Escalade didn't need the ability to choose between the modes. They probably figured that the people who wanted that ability would go the Yukon/Tahoe route.
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    Re: Off-Roading with the Escalade?

    See, that's what i don't get! Just below it in the luxury hierarchy, you got your fully-loaded Denali readily available, and it has an area just right of the driver's A/C vent that houses a selector switch that responds to the driver's off-roading whims. That's because it's 6.0 is coupled with a part-time 4x4 tranny, whereas in the Escalade, the same housing is an empty orifice!

    OK, fine, caddy owners are less prone to going off-road for their Starbuck's, but wouldn't it be nice to have the option of having the AWD system switched on or off?

    More to the point, i drove my Escalade off-road last night, just to feel it out. It wasn't the fine sand terrain, just a couple of miles of dirt road with pockets soft sand. I was delighted to find the following:

    1-I can't make any difference between the drivability of the AWD on-road or off-road. The feeling was the same, no slight pulls on the sterring wheel while cornering or turning.

    2-The suspension system is a dream! On rippled dirt roads you can feel the ripples, but significantly LESS than my old Yukon, or a Mitsubishi Montero (AKA Pajero in the Middle East) or even a Ford Expedition. I drove it over sand dunes and it swiftly cruised over them like silk!

    3-Switching off the Stabilitrak DOES help in forced driving on dirt roads, where you use the understeer/oversteer physics to your advantage as part of controlling the vehicle.

    4-My escalade comes equipped with HID's for driving lights, but standard ones for high-beams and foglights. I found that with all three lighting systems on, there's no "significant" improvement in illuminating my dirt path at night than with just simply having the HID's on.

    I'll post more remarks as i make them.

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