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    Re: Odometer Fraud!!!!

    I agree about the nav which is most likely the wire was cut in the first place. Unless you have proof the the odo was unhooked you are wasting time/money getting a lawyer. To answer this and to put all the myths to rest we need to find out if there is mileage stored somewhere else in the car(which I doubt). Somebody has to know someone at GM who can answer this question.

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    Re: Odometer Fraud!!!!

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    I'll put the question out to a reliable source. It could be late Monday before I get an answer, but I'll post it as soon as I get it.

    The areas I recall are very general and I'd like to precisely accurate.

    The only one that can changed, and only with professional assistance, is on the IPC, Instrument Panel Cluster. The other locations are permanent.
    Sorry about the long delay.

    The server my contact uses is down until Firday or Saturday. I'll try another method to reach him see what he comes up with.

    Hang in there.

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    Re: Odometer Fraud!!!!

    Any news yet?????????

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    Re: Odometer Fraud!!!!

    New to the forum... but I know a little about the gm clusters... As stated above If you disconnect the wire and hook it to a toggle switch it will prevent miles from being put on the cluster. The speedo doesn't work when disconnected either. Another way you could do it is just buy a cluster with low miles on it.
    BUT>>>
    The actual miles are stored in the computers somewhere. Think about it... do you think GM would make it THAT easy to screw with the milage of the vehicle. Take it to a good GM dealership... they will tell you what is up. But the aftermarket Navigation could be true too.
    You probably need to hurry up and figure out what is up and report back to carfax to straighten things out...

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    Re: Odometer Fraud!!!!

    FYI on Mercedes, Lexus, Chry., Toyota, Honda, and many others the mileage is stored ONLY in the cluster. I have friends who are factory techs and say for a fact that the mileage is no where else in the car. If Mercedes, one of the most advanced cars on the road does not store it why would GM????????

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    Re: Odometer Fraud!!!!

    Sorry for the long delay in providing what I expected to be a quick and simple answer. As silly as it seems, the advent of the digital age may have not provided relief from the issue of OD Fraud.

    With the relatively simple analog odometers and rolling them back, it looks even easier with an Instrument Cluster Panel change out or wire/switch intercept. We all know there has to be a location somewhere in the vehicle to permanently store the information, but it is not being provided to the consumers.

    I have a resource, though not related to GM or any other vehicle manufacturer, he is extremely technically oriented, particularly with the GM line of products and this is the gist of his long delayed reply to my question when I asked him to look into this subject;


    >
    > Some cars DO store the mileage in another module. A TechLink article
    > said so. I believe it was a GTO or Grand Prix. No doubt other's in that
    > family.
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    > It appears to me they are leaning more toward the trend of storing the
    > ODO and engine hours in the designated master mode module for the
    > vehicle, rather than in the cluster.
    >


    Any and all issues of fraud and deceit rub me the wrong way.

    I know we'll all be keeping an eye open along this subject.

    I wish I had a more definitive reply.

    He is still looking into the subject and I will provide any information he can provide.

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    Re: Odometer Fraud!!!!

    I'm not trying to boost my post count with the replies to myself but this was a simple reference my resource provided that probably provides for more speculation than answers.

    Tech Link Reference

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