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    Smile fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    good morning! THANKS for all your help!

    i have a 2008 DTS. do i ever need to CLEAN or REPLACE my fuel injectors?

    i use Shell V Power with high amounts of PEA injector cleaner. i dont know if that helps!

    as an aside, for the first time ever, saw the NHRA drag races yesterday in New Hampshire. unbelievable! 500 cubic inches 8000 horsepower.

    check out this video


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VF0JwxQqcA

    if you can ever see a drag race, make sure to do so! you must have a death wish to strap yourself into one of these! amazing!!

    best regards,

    Bob

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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    Quote Originally Posted by Maunus View Post
    good morning! THANKS for all your help!

    i have a 2008 DTS. do i ever need to CLEAN or REPLACE my fuel injectors?
    i use Shell V Power with high amounts of PEA injector cleaner. i dont know if that helps!

    as an aside, for the first time ever, saw the NHRA drag races yesterday in New Hampshire. unbelievable! 500 cubic inches 8000 horsepower.

    check out this video


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VF0JwxQqcA

    if you can ever see a drag race, make sure to do so! you must have a death wish to strap yourself into one of these! amazing!!

    best regards,

    Bob
    I have 140,000 miles on my 2006 that I bought brand new.
    I have NEVER used any type of chemicals in my gas.
    The injectors have never needed any kind of service.
    The car runs as good as it did the day I bought it.

    In my younger days, I did a lot of drag racing and dirt track racing.
    It finally just got too expensive and I got out of it.
    I have even ran my DTS down the track a few times...LOL

    The white '66 Nova is my friends car... I sometimes go to the track and help him a bit.
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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    You do NOT need to run any sort of "injector cleaner" with a Top Tier gasoline, especially Shell V-Power - Google two things - "top tier gasoline" and "chevron techron". TECHRON is a powerful fuel system cleaner that is used only once in 5,000 miles. Running other additives does nothing but add to the cost of a tank of gasoline. Nothing (except send the snake oil company's CEO to Cancun for a week)

    NHRA - been there, done that. Chrysler AA Fuel. Adrenalin rush. Expensive. Fun. Deadly. Pure amateur - Quit while I was still alive.

    Superjim, Did you ever do any motorcycle racing ?? I was a partially Works sponsored Triumph rider in the 60s - dirt track scrambles. Been run over a lot.

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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    Quote Originally Posted by Submariner409 View Post
    NHRA - been there, done that. Chrysler AA Fuel. Adrenalin rush. Expensive. Fun. Deadly. Quit while I was still alive.

    Superjim, Did you ever do any motorcycle racing ?? I was a partially Works sponsored Triumph rider in the 60s - dirt track scrambles. Been run over a lot.
    I rode street bikes a lot, did a little bit of hill climbing back in the late 60's, but not a lot.
    Riding the bike "ALMOST" to the top of the hill, and then it RIDING YOU all the way back down to the bottom, kinda got old after a while. LOL
    I had a Triumph Bonneville T120 for a couple of my teenage years.
    650 cc and pretty fast for it's time.
    Later had a BSA Super Rocket.

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    EDIT: Maunus, Sorry for the thread hijack - You start posting car videos and the memories come rushing back ............

    Memories - My first machine was a 1956 AJS Matchless 500 single. The next was a '60 BSA Super Rocket 650 vertical twin - mine had the tank with chrome side panels. Next came two 1964 Triumph Bonnevilles - one road machine, one dirt track. Had a Triumph Tiger 500 for trials. Also went through a couple of Bultacos. Used to watch hillclimbs at Monson, Mass. - no thanks. My Dad rode for Indian in the 30s.

    I only skirmished with drag racing because a friend owned a speed shop in Kensington, MD - Internal Combustion Engines - used to drive when I was home on leave from the Navy - which was illegal as hell. One of the guys owned a McLarenElvaChevy out of Nickey Chevrolet in Chicago. We drove it through Bethedsa, MD one night - straight up Wisconsin Avenue - and never got stopped. Here he is - Charlie Hayes in the same car - #97 - at Nassau.
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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    Quote Originally Posted by Submariner409 View Post
    Memories - My first machine was a 1956 AJS Matchless 500 single. The next was a '60 BSA Super Rocket 650 vertical twin - mine had the tank with chrome side panels. Next came two 1964 Triumph Bonnevilles - one road machine, one dirt track. Had a Triumph Tiger 500 for trials. Also went through a couple of Bultacos. Used to watch hillclimbs at Monson, Mass. - no thanks. My Dad rode for Indian in the 30s.

    I only skirmished with drag racing because a friend owned a speed shop in Kensington, MD - Internal Combustion Engines - used to drive when I was home on leave from the Navy - which was illegal as hell. One of the guys owned a McLarenElvaChevy out of Nickey Chevrolet in Chicago. We drove it through Bethedsa, MD one night - straight up Wisconsin Avenue - and never got stopped. Here he is - Charlie Hayes in the same car - #97 - at Nassau.
    That Matchless was a real THUMPER...I remember how they sounded...LOL
    My Super Rocket was also a 1960 model.
    I was always kinda partial to drag racing... I had good reaction time at the lights and always enjoyed drag racing.
    Couple of years ago I took the DTS out...
    It was a hot humid day (100 degrees)
    Ran a 15 flat... couldn't get off the line HARD at all... it would either spin too much or not enough... Never got a really good launch all day.

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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    thanks superjim and submariner!! i will use v power gas and ignore the injectors! love that white 66 Nova!

    you guys are brave! i would NEVER strap myself into one of those rockets!! amazing machines, the ground shakes!! wow!!!! must be a REAL rush!!

    have a great day!

    Bob

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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    Quote Originally Posted by Maunus View Post
    thanks superjim and submariner!! i will use v power gas and ignore the injectors! love that white 66 Nova!
    you guys are brave! i would NEVER strap myself into one of those rockets!! amazing machines, the ground shakes!! wow!!!! must be a REAL rush!!

    have a great day!

    Bob
    Bob,
    You will KNOW if or when your injectors need service... till then, just leave 'em alone and let 'em do their job.
    I don't know about BRAVE... maybe a little CRAZY... LOL
    It is a big adrenaline rush, going down the track. I love it...
    Jim

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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    What will a stock DTS do in a quarter mile?

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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    Quote Originally Posted by CBOYLE View Post
    What will a stock DTS do in a quarter mile?
    14.9 and 103..."IF" you can get it to launch off the line properly.

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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    Thanks. not bad for a lead sled. Would give my old GTX Mopar a good run. Unless the old Mopar had the M&H slicks on it.
    Thanks for the memories!
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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    > Ever wonder why a Top Fuel dragster gets a rebuilt engine after each run?
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    > Stay with this - even if you aren't a 'car nut', this is stunning.
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    > * One Top Fuel dragster outfitted with a 500 cubic-inch replica Dodge
    > (actually Keith Black, etc) Hemi engine makes more horsepower (8,000 HP)
    > than the first 4 rows of cars at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
    >
    >
    >
    > * Under full throttle, a dragster engine will consume 11.2 gallons of nitro
    > methane per second; a fully loaded Boeing 747 consumes jet fuel at the same
    > rate but with 25% less energy being produced.
    >
    >
    >
    > * A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to merely drive
    > the dragster's supercharger.
    >
    >
    >
    > * With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the
    > fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders
    > run on the verge of hydraulic lockup at full throttle.
    >
    >
    >
    > * At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane the flame
    > front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.
    >
    >
    >
    > * Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the
    > stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water
    > vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
    >
    >
    >
    > * Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. Which is typically the
    > output of a small electric arc welder in each cylinder.
    >
    >
    >
    > * Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way
    > thru the run, the engine is 'dieseling' from compression and the glow of the
    > exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by
    > cutting the fuel flow.
    >
    >
    >
    > * If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in
    > the affected cylinders and then explodes with enough force to blow the
    > cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half !!
    >
    >
    >
    > * Dragsters reach over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading this
    > sentence.
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    > * In order to exceed 300 MPH in 4.5 seconds, a dragster must accelerate an
    > average of over 4 G's. In order to reach 200 MPH well before reaching
    > half-track, at launch the acceleration approaches 8 G's.
    >
    >
    >
    > * Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!
    >
    >
    >
    > * Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under
    > load.
    >
    >
    >
    > * The redline is actually quite high at 9500 RPM.
    >
    >
    >
    > * THE BOTTOM LINE: Assuming all the equipment is paid for, the pit crew is
    > working for free, & NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run will cost an estimated $1,000
    > per second.
    >
    > 0 to 100 MPH in .8 seconds (the first 60 feet of the run)
    >
    > 0 to 200 MPH in 2.2 seconds (the first 350 feet of the run)
    >
    > 6 g-forces at the starting line (nothing accelerates faster on land)
    >
    > 6 negative g-forces upon deployment of twin 'chutes at 300 MPH
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    > An NHRA Top Fuel Dragster accelerates quicker than any other land vehicle on
    > earth . . quicker than a jet fighter plane . . . quicker than the space
    > shuttle....or snapping your fingers !!
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    >
    >
    > The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.420 seconds for the
    > quarter-mile (2004, Doug Kalitta).
    >
    >
    >
    > The top speed record is 337.58 MPH as measured over the last 66' of the run
    > (2005, Tony Schumacher).
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    >
    >
    > Let's now put this all into perspective:
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    > Imagine this...........
    >
    > . You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered
    > Corvette Z-06.
    >
    > .. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged & ready to
    > 'launch' down a quarter-mile strip as you pass.
    >
    > . You have the advantage of a flying start.
    >
    > . You run the 'Vette hard, on up through the gears and blast across the
    > starting line & pass the dragster at an honest 200 MPH....
    >
    > . The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that exact moment.
    >
    > . The dragster departs & starts after you.
    >
    > . You keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly you hear an
    > incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your eardrums & within a
    > mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches & passes you.
    >
    > .. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away from where you
    > just passed him.
    >
    > .. Think about it from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you
    > 200 MPH.....and it not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the planet
    > when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race !!!!
    >
    >
    >
    > That, my friends.....is acceleration.
    >
    >
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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    everything Danog said is true! you MUST see them at least once! they shake the ground!!!! it is a controlled explosion!!!!

    bob

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    Re: fuel injectors! and a drag race!

    Well written

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    Rumor has it they're pushing 10000HP's!!!!! I heard that that there's a group of Cadillac owners in Maryland that drag nothing but Cadillacs!!! anybody heard of this!

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