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Old 06-15-03, 11:23 PM
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I doubt either one of you would like riding in my noisey 87' it squeeks and rattles and the viberation is terrible! and there is this very loud banging sound comming from some where in my trunk.
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I doubt either one of you would like riding in my noisey 87' it squeeks and rattles and the viberation is terrible! and there is this very loud banging sound comming from some where in my trunk.
It's probably knocking around from the people you kidnapped in your trunk, and they are trying to escape!
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Old 09-25-03, 10:27 PM
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Re: Consumer Report: What's YOUR opinion? We'd like to know...

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I've had my DTS for about 15 months now. I bought it new in January 2002. It has every option except the sunroof (I wanted more headroom) and the cellular integration package (wouldn't work with my phone). I got the adaptive seating, night vision, navigation system, zebrano wood trim package, side airbags, etc etc. The first thing I did was have the interior gutted, and I added 432 square feet of noise damping material, along with a few layers of acoustic foam. The car is dead silent. 63 Db at 70 mph. It gained a little weight, but performance didn't seem to suffer too much. I did experience a couple of problems (before the modifications, so those can't be blamed on the modifications). The navigation system has worked great with one exception. Maybe once or twice a week, I start the car, and all I hear is a buzzing sound from the stereo. It's loud, and annoying and it won't go away untill I turn the car off for about two minutes. Other than that, no problems with the nav system. I had a little trouble with brake squeal, but I got over that by trying to drive more like an old man. I had to have a wheel speed sensor replaced (under warranty) and one factory recall (again, no cost). Overall I've been happy with the car and the service I've received.

The acceleration isn't quite "fast" but "authoritative" wouldn't be a bad discription. Braking is a little weaker than I'd like and it could use some more grip in the corners, but in general it handles very well for a car of it's size and weight. I drive my cars hard. This car is NOTHING like my Z06, but when pushed to the limit it has a nice feel to it and the stabilitrac does a good job of keeping things under control if you get a little crazy. I plan on replacing the tires with something wider and stickier, which will hopefully improve my cornering. I'm also seeking thicker sway bars to quell the body roll.

Performance in the snow is fantastic, easily allowing me to go out under almost any conditions I've seen in my area (Massacusetts).

I've done several road trips with it. I haven't found a car that's better for long drives in terms of comfort an smooth easy cruising (although I sat in the new Rolls Royce, and i'm pretty sure that'd be one hell of a road tripper). Much nicer on long trips than my brother's Audi A8L. However at high speeds (say over 115) it feels too mushy. Not enough grip, and not stiff enough suspension....especially when the car is loaded. But if you plan to cruise at even vaguely legal speeds it's fantastic. There's plenty of room for four in the car. Five is ok if the third person in the back is small, or you aren't travelling too far. Trunk space is generous, but not mind blowing. Interior appointments are excellent, and everyone likes the seats (nice leather in my opinion), the seat heaters, the multizone climate control, and the reading lamps that are well placed to prevent glare to the driver. The trim impresses most people, but there are a few pieces that get on my nerves. The plastic panel surrounding the climate controls and the nav screen is really cheap and doesn't fit flush. Some of the controls on the dash look and feel cheap (although ergonomics are great) and the center console isn't as rock solid as those of other high end cars (it creaks if you lean on it).

I've got 24,000 miles on the car now and I've driven it under virtually any sort of circumstances. I've been please over all with the car and with all of it's features. Even the night vision has made itself useful, saving me from a definite collision with pack of three moose on one occasion and several times with deer. If I could change a few things about the car, this is what they'd be:

1. Dual pane windows...a good bit of the cabin noise comes from the windows

2. Another 50 hp

3. Stiffer swaybars

4. Slightly better interior trim

5. Slightly stiffer suspension

6. 255/45/18 tires (I think that'd be about the right width and would maintain enough sidewall to be comfortable.

If anyone has any specific questions about my car or my experience with it, feel free to ask.

Scott


Did you find out what the noise is from the stereo? It sounds like you are describing the same problem I had on my 2001 DTS. It hasn't happened yet to my 2003 though. The dealer fixed it and it didn't take them that long to figure out the problem. There was an amp or some connection on the back of the rear seat where the electronics are mounted that had a bad connection and was causing the loud sound out of the speakers..just a loud roar/buzz. It was so loud when I pulled it into the dealer when it was occuring that people started to walk outside to figure out what the noise was...they thought there were low flying jets! It was loud...anyway they fixed it and it never happned again.
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Old 10-07-03, 11:02 AM
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I've got an "88 DeVille, am the 2nd owner, but have known the car since new. She is well over the 170K mile mark now. Still no rust (she has gotten undersprayed every year around this time) and twice a year she has had SLICK 50 oil, tranny and power steering treatments done.

I got her in the summer of '98. I didn't like the external colour much so I had a 1995 Caddy colour applied (Mocha Metallic). It is a perfect match for the taupe interior. I also shaved off the caddy emblem on the hood, filled in the hole and mounted a larger emblem in the centre of the grille. Also reefed the "script" emblems of Cadillac and Sedan De Ville in favour of the 1998 DEVILLE block letter emblems.

This summer I treated her to an upgrade of sorts. She now has NGK Iridium plugs, K&N air and oil filters, MOBIL 1 synthetic oil and tranny fluid. Next up on the agenda will be a new exhaust system. You can see photos of her in the DeVille photo section.

Would I change anything else? Well, I wouldn't mind having a 4.9 instead of the 4.5 and I saw in a local boneyard that the Fleetwoods' of the same year had real wood trim for the interior - I may go back to that boneyard, pull the trim and use it as a template to fashion new ones out of walnut - I have the perfect slab of wood at home.

No real huge expenses other than regular upkeep on a car that is approaching the 200,000 mile mark. She is still ultra quiet (each Spring and Fall I go over the interior and tighten anything remotely loose - can't STAND rattles in a luxury car. It is the ultimate turn-off for me), still rust free and still turns heads - especially with the exterior mods.

Would I get another? Damn straight I would, but the money tree is in hibernation right now so I will continue to shower this one with affection.
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Old 10-08-03, 10:39 AM
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Re: Consumer Report: What's YOUR opinion? We'd like to know...

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I bought this car about a month ago with 67,xxx miles on it. It is Diamond White exterior with the black ground effects around the car. There is nothing wrong with the exterior except the passenger side door. It has a large gouge in the molding that should be fixed as soon as i get some extra cash. The interior is PERFECT. The only thing is the normal wear and tear of a 11 year old car. About the car in general it is a well rounded coupe. A few things that i don't really care for are the frameless windows b/c of the noise it makes at high speeds. My car didn't come with any cup holders and that really bothers me ALOT i love my coffee in the morning. I also have the base model coupe so i dont' have the wood accents in the car. That adds a touch of class to it. The stock rims are abosolutly horrible to keep clean b/c of the 30 spokes and its very time consuming. It is also basically a 4 person car. There is no way 5 adults can fit into it.
The things that i do like are endless. The interior is really comfortable and elegant. It turns a lot of heads to see a youngin driving it. It will smoke most stock cars on the road even though its the 4.9L. Gas milage is great for a v8 (no matter what anyone says im used to 10 MPG). The handling is perfect for a car of that size and how I'd expect it to handle. Well that's really about it. Would i get another one YES. But i would make sure i get the North* and a 95 or newer.
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Old 10-12-03, 11:36 AM
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Even being a Cadillac, I'll stick with trusty Nissan. With only 62,000 miles, my Caddi has needed the A/C replaced, new front rotors and calipers, new upper radiator hose, new transmission fluid cooler, and the EGR is throwing code P048 (not to mention it sounds like a washing machine!). I know for a fact it hasn't been abused because my mother bought it new!

My other car is a '93 Nissan 240sx with 141,000 miles. It's need a clutch, A/C recharged, and the catalytic converter is clogged. It has had half as many problems with twice the mileage! The fit and finish is also a ton better...

American cars just aren't the same. Big quality difference.
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Old 10-12-03, 01:06 PM
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If you're still reading Scott LymanSS - Hello, remember me????

I have a 1993 Sixty Special, and it's a fabulous car. Outside of blowing one of the electroluminescent "C" pillar crest lights (2 times) I have never had a gripe or a problem. Granted, car has 9,400 miles on it, but it was money well spent. I have never warmed up to the 1994 - 2003 style, but am hopefull the next re-design will be more to my liking. The CTS is growing on me, however.
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Re: Consumer Report: What's YOUR opinion? We'd like to know...

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Even being a Cadillac, I'll stick with trusty Nissan. With only 62,000 miles, my Caddi has needed the A/C replaced, new front rotors and calipers, new upper radiator hose, new transmission fluid cooler, and the EGR is throwing code P048 (not to mention it sounds like a washing machine!). I know for a fact it hasn't been abused because my mother bought it new!

My other car is a '93 Nissan 240sx with 141,000 miles. It's need a clutch, A/C recharged, and the catalytic converter is clogged. It has had half as many problems with twice the mileage! The fit and finish is also a ton better...

American cars just aren't the same. Big quality difference.
You need to read an interesting thread under the "Non-Specific Discussion" called "Cadillac Vs Other Manufacturers." We had a large discussion about Cadillac quality, etc.
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The only things that I would change about my 1990 DeVille (that I can think of at least) would be to have a non-Bose AM/FM/CD option and have an adjustable lumbar support in the driver's seat (an air bladder system would be sweet).
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Re: Consumer Report: What's YOUR opinion? We'd like to know...

I have a 1995 Sedan DeVille, I bought it pre-owned with very low mileage given the year I bought it. They are all highway milage as the car is local, and we are in a very rural area. I paid $6000 for it. You could not ask for a smoother ride, or a better running vehicle. It's very roomy and perfect for my family. My husband is very tall and I have two children. I no longer have to hear about a cars lack of head room, leg space etc from my husband, or listen to my kids complain about leg space and cramping. (That alone is worth the purchase lol). Everything electronic works. Everything is holding up (meaning pieces aren't coming apart, leather is excellent etc). I do hear that clicky noise some of you mentioned once in a while. I wondered what it was. Nothing major I see. The car is very quiet. No road noises or tire humming can be heard inside the car. I love the climate control panel too.


I had my car about three months when a beast of a truck slammed into the back corner of it. I can not believe how little damage it had. That's impressive to say the least.

I could've lived without my heater core problem, and I could live w/o the fact that the transmission already has problems, but overall I am happy with my car.


I also want to mention I live in an area where icy roads and snow are a problem, and last month I finally got to see how this car would handle it.
Well it handled it with no problems. That is a huge plus for me and anyone else who lives in areas where road conditions are a problem.

I was also amazed as the gas milage this car got. 22.4 MPG is excellent for a car this size. I recently lost some MPG but that's more than likely a sign that I need to tune her up when I get her back from the Tranny shop.
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