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1985-1992 Fleetwood, 1993 Sixty Special, All FWD Forum Discussion, check engine light is out in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Possible the replacement cluster SES light was out also......
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    Re: check engine light is out

    Possible the replacement cluster SES light was out also...

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    Re: check engine light is out

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    If you bought it from a lot you'll have a much harder time prosecuting. Car lots simply flip cars and put as little money into them as possible. Move 'em in and move 'em out. They get them on trade or from the auction and that pretty much insulates them from liability. Most won't do something illegal like disabling the SES light or clocking the odometer anymore.
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    If you bought it from a lot you'll have a much harder time prosecuting.
    I actually had the exact opposite thought -

    buying from a private party -
    the car is always assumed SOLD AS-IS-AND-SHOWN -
    and comes with a "driveway warranty" -

    an auto dealer MUST follow federal guidelines -
    basically - "you can't RETAIL a car that won't pass emissions"

    and - so there isn't any question about what selling "retail" means -
    collecting sales tax - transfering registration - applying for license plates -

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    Re: check engine light is out

    I think we are talking about two different things. You will have one hell of a time trying to prove in court that the dealer disabled the MIL. If it can't pass emissions, that's another story and you probably can get a refund however, the OP simply said that the MIL does not illuminate. The car still may pass an emissions test, in which case the only problem is a burnt out or disabled MIL, and that may be his problem because in fact, used cars ARE sold AS-IS.

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    Re: check engine light is out

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    I think we are talking about two different things. You will have one hell of a time trying to prove in court that the dealer disabled the MIL. If it can't pass emissions, that's another story and you probably can get a refund however, the OP simply said that the MIL does not illuminate. The car still may pass an emissions test, in which case the only problem is a burnt out or disabled MIL, and that may be his problem because in fact, used cars ARE sold AS-IS.
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    You will have one hell of a time trying to prove in court that the dealer disabled the MIL
    you don't have to prove anything
    except that the DEALER sold the car - RETAIL -
    and the SES light is not functioning -


    the law says a DEALER can not sell a car RETAIL -
    that will not pass emissions testing -

    OP simply said that the MIL does not illuminate
    correct -

    a failed SES light -
    whether simply burned out - or tampered with -
    will cause a failed test -


    The car still may pass an emissions test
    the car would not even proceed to the actual testing -
    a failed SES light stops the emission test - because it failed already -

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    Yes it wont pass emissions, it passed safety though. ?..

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    It has a 0650 code along with a 0741 code...

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    Re: check engine light is out

    Any P code will prevent it from passing an emissions test.

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