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    Yes, the MA822 shocks are the correct passive ones.

    I would recommend the "prettier" resistor install. It's more secure, and more "professional". Worth the extra ~$20 in supplies IMHO. I'm heading out the door for the day. basscatt can explain it well, or just do a search.

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    Re: 03 DTS.. Rear Shock Leaking and messing up tire.. help

    So this is one I bought...

    http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...ier=92009_0_0_

    Can someone please explain to me, now what? People were talking about resistors and other things that I don't understand. These are the ones I bought so what do I have to do next... Thank you... I changed brakes on wifes car yesterday, im not totally new to cars.. but with this CV system, I wanna make sure I get it right.. plus I love my Caddy

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    There are wire harnesses coming out of your old shocks. When you remove them, you'll have to follow the harness up to the connector, and disconnect it.

    Cut the harnesses off of the old shocks (DO NOT CUT ANYTHING ON THE HARNESS ATTACHED TO THE CAR).

    Each of the harnesses only have 2 wires in them. Essentially, all you're going to be doing, is making a loop, with a resistor between the 2 wires. You can use butt connectors, or solder. Either way, use heat shrink tubing over everything. If you're not familiar with wiring, just ask, and someone will explain further.

    Once you have the resistors in place, you just need to plug the harnesses back into the connectors on the car, and secure the wiring away from moving parts with zip ties.

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    Re: 03 DTS.. Rear Shock Leaking and messing up tire.. help

    Cabbage,

    Let me see if i have this correct.. sorry, i just know how costly this could be, if i make a mistake...

    so i unhook the harness that connects the car and the shock...
    cut the end of the wiring that came from the shock before it gets to the harness...
    take a butt connector and put each wire in the end and clamp them down, so they are connected to each other...
    then reconnect the harness and zip tie down the wires to something?

    I am reading the book on how to remove the shock and i will be trying it tomorrow... so this could save me a large amount of money.... i think this is right????

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    Lol, you have everything right except the most important part, the resistor.

    You're going to use two butt connectors, one attached to each wire. Then, insert one side of the resistor into each of the butt connectors. You'll end up with the sane loop you described, but with the resistor in the middle.

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    Re: 03 DTS.. Rear Shock Leaking and messing up tire.. help

    I found everything you are talking about.. found resistor on RadioShack.com... local one has it.. I found threads for the CVRSS resistor bypass... and it just appears that I cut the wires between shock and harness, put on butt connector, then make a U with resistor and clamp them into the butt connector...

    I am going to be starting soon... if I am wrong, can someone call me and let me know.. 267-971-5014 .... Deno..... Thanks everyone...

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    Yup, that's pretty much it. Make sure you use a long enough piece of heat shrink tubing to cover the resistor and both butt plugs, and don't forget to put it on BEFORE you clamp down on the connectors.

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    Re: 03 DTS.. Rear Shock Leaking and messing up tire.. help

    I don't have heat shrink tubing... now what?? it took me 3 different radio shacks to finally get resistors...

    don't forget to put it on BEFORE you clamp down on the connectors????? do you mean the air lines and other stuff to the shock??? should I also disconnect the battery to the car while I do this?

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    how does this darn wiring come out of the bottom of the shock??? wow.. I should not do this.,,,,

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    Re: 03 DTS.. Rear Shock Leaking and messing up tire.. help

    Quote Originally Posted by monty_n_philly View Post
    I don't have heat shrink tubing... now what?? it took me 3 different radio shacks to finally get resistors...

    don't forget to put it on BEFORE you clamp down on the connectors????? do you mean the air lines and other stuff to the shock??? should I also disconnect the battery to the car while I do this?
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    you are making this sound a lot more difficult than it is -

    cut the plugs off the old shocks - include as much wire as possible -

    trim the wire down to a few inches -
    the exact length isn't important - enough to work with -

    bare the ends of the wires -
    prepare the resistors by cutting the wire ends down to an inch or so in length -
    again - the exact length isn't important - enough to work with -

    I would prefer to solder the wires and resistors together -
    but crimping butt connectors will work too -

    here is where you would slide a piece of heat-shrink-tubing onto the wire -
    you obviously can't do it after the butt connectors are on -

    the heat-shring-tubing has to be large enough - and long enough -
    to slide over the butt connectors - and resistors -
    it has to completely waterproof the "new" resistor assembly -

    so - crimp a butt connector to the wire -
    stick the wire end of the resistor in the other end of the butt connector and crimp it -

    crimp another butt connector to the other end of the resistor -
    then crimp the other wire into the butt connector -

    you now have a big loop -
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    plug from the old shock -
    one wire of the plug - to a butt connector -
    one wire from resistor to the other end of the butt connector -

    butt connector on the other wire of the resistor -
    other wire of the plug to butt connector -

    now check that all the crimps are secure -
    slide the heat-shrink tubing over the "assembly" -
    use a heat source of your choice - and shrink the tubing -
    to make a permanently waterproof "resistor assembly" -

    plug your new "resistor assembly" into the plug on the car -
    secure it up - and out of the way with zip-ties -

    do the other side -

    you have now by-passed the electronics -
    and will NOT get the SERVICE SUSPENSION message -

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_n_philly
    how does this darn wiring come out of the bottom of the shock??? wow.. I should not do this.,,,,
    It doesn't, it unplugs at a connector further up the wiring. Follow the wire up the control arm.

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    Re: 03 DTS.. Rear Shock Leaking and messing up tire.. help

    Basscatt,

    Thanks, that makes a lot of sense now...

    SOOOO... sry guys but I got the tire off and was going through it and then I pulled out the new shock.. it is completely closed and the stock air hose is different then the hose that is given to me... I went through the directions and they said that I have to drill holes and there was a T at the end of the air lines.. this looks so complicated now... So i think i bite off more then i can chew... or

    Do i cut the wire do it.. then put the shock in place.. follow the old air hose and replace it with the new one and figure out how it goes in the compressor... but how is the shock going to open up so i can get it in place??? it seems with the big coil, i can't raise the arm high enough to put the shock in place...????? I called and my mechanic said, $250 for labor to do it,, so sorry guys but i think i have to do this.. money tight with 2nd baby on way... and i know if i make a big mistake it will cost me even more money,, so that is why i am asking for so much help....

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    The MA822s work with the stock air lines. You don't have to cut anything.

    Remove the protective cap from the nipple on the new shock, and pull the shock at each end to extend it.

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    Re: 03 DTS.. Rear Shock Leaking and messing up tire.. help

    you got the wrong shocks

    if you had purchased the MA822 they would be direct fit
    but the gabriels you got use a different air line fitting connector (screw on right? not snap on like the OEM)

    i would suggest returning the shocks and getting the MA822
    if not then you'll have to splice into the OEM air lines to switch the end of the lines over to the style that came with your gabriels

    we used to do that here until we wised up and just started getting the MA822s instead
    (the ACDelco replacements are the same as the Gabriels so we used to run into this a lot)

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    fyi the air line kit that they sent is for manual fill
    they want you to forget about the air compressor and run the new lines they sent you to somewhere on the back bumper and drill a hole so you can pump up the rear air shocks with a tire pump (manual style like for a bike or compressed air like you pay a buck for at the gas stations)

    doing it this way you will have to pump up the rear yourself when you load it down and then release the air yourself when you unload it
    (why it's called manual fill)

    not many people actually do that
    they either splice the lines so the OEM lines have the screw on style fittings (as i mentioned we used to do)
    or they just say screw it and forget about the level ride
    or they return them and get the MA822s
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    Re: 03 DTS.. Rear Shock Leaking and messing up tire.. help

    Quote Originally Posted by MoistCabbage View Post
    The MA822s work with the stock air lines. You don't have to cut anything.

    Remove the protective cap from the nipple on the new shock, and pull the shock at each end to extend it.
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    The MA822s work with the stock air lines.

    he didn't buy the Monroes - for some reason -
    he bought something else - from autozone -

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_n_philly View Post
    Basscatt,

    Thanks, that makes a lot of sense now...

    SOOOO... sry guys but I got the tire off and was going through it and then I pulled out the new shock.. it is completely closed and the stock air hose is different then the hose that is given to me... I went through the directions and they said that I have to drill holes and there was a T at the end of the air lines.. this looks so complicated now... So i think i bite off more then i can chew... or

    Do i cut the wire do it.. then put the shock in place.. follow the old air hose and replace it with the new one and figure out how it goes in the compressor... but how is the shock going to open up so i can get it in place??? it seems with the big coil, i can't raise the arm high enough to put the shock in place...????? I called and my mechanic said, $250 for labor to do it,, so sorry guys but i think i have to do this.. money tight with 2nd baby on way... and i know if i make a big mistake it will cost me even more money,, so that is why i am asking for so much help....
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    I called and my mechanic said, $250 for labor to do it
    that is an INSANE price for 2 rear shocks -
    it would take a shop less than one hour to replace both -
    the guy is ripping you off -

    return whatever it was you got from autozone -

    go to the website I supplied in post #4 -
    and order the Monroe MA822 kit -

    report back when you get them -
    and we can walk you through the install -

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    Ah, didn't realize he didn't get the Monroes.

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