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    Cadillac a wise decision ?

    I have own numerous of Cadillacs and seem to be all that i drive.
    Right now, i'm gearing myself towards school.
    I've been considering the late 90's Deville/Northstar but i heard the
    good and bad about those motors and think that's risky.
    I figure i try to switch it up since i have the late 80's and early 90s Deville
    with the 4.1 , 4.5 and 4.9 and never had any major problems.
    Other then my 4.1 that blew a headgasket.

    I've been looking at Nissan Maxima though they are very nice.
    But i am a true Cadillac lover, seem to all i know and really like.
    Just wanna switch up from the usual Caddy's i have own and figure
    i get something a little more up to date and different.
    Would this be wise choice or look outside of Cadillac ?!

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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    School, time, money, repairs, reliability, gas mileage = Find a nice recent Hyundai Sonata.

    The absolute WORST years to look at for a FWD Cadillac would be 1998/9. Read the head gasket poll in the top of the Northstar Performance stickys.

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    Cimarrons are pretty cheap to maintain.

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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    If you like the looks of the '98 & '99, how about a '94-'95 instead?
    Similar style, but they have the 4.9L that you know and love.
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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigm57ict View Post
    If you like the looks of the '98 & '99, how about a '94-'95 instead?
    Similar style, but they have the 4.9L that you know and love.
    I figure , i would have to past that Northstar up and go back to the 4.9 at least.
    Now if i was financial stable to maintain the life of a Northstar then i would take that chance.
    I figure since i owned two 91's before. Why not give the 94-95 the chance.
    Something with a different feel and style, of course.

    What are some of the special features the 94-95 Deville have ?!
    Do u think they ride better then the 86-91 Sedan Deville that i have owned.

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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    I have an 89 Deville. I've only had it for a short time, but now that I do, I can't imagine driving anything but. I'm getting a little scared reading these posts about repair costs, though!

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    Repair costs are pretty low for non Northstar, non active suspension cars. The water pump is a bit of a PITA on 4.X cars though.
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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Faith76 View Post
    I have an 89 Deville. I've only had it for a short time, but now that I do, I can't imagine driving anything but. I'm getting a little scared reading these posts about repair costs, though!
    I would choose a 88-93 Deville any day. They are the most reliable cars ever!
    I never had a issue out neither that i owned. I'm very familiar with the 4.5 and 4.9 motors.
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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jojostar25 View Post
    I would choose a 88-93 Deville any day. They are the most reliable cars ever!
    I never had a issue out neither that i owned. I'm very familiar with the 4.5 and 4.9 motors.
    I'd say look outside - or stay with what you have, are familiar, and feel comfortable with. I had a polished 99 Seville and nothing but (mechanical) trouble with it. 70% of it related to the North-/Deathstar engine and rest just normal wear and tear. Fault was mine, I did not know at that point in time that those cars may have serious issues but I found out quickly. Since January, I am also an involuntary care taker of a 04 Deville that, despite of being in almost mint interior and exterior condition, is more shine than substance as well. What started out as a list of small annoyances quickly matured into a list of costly problems - all with the Damocles sword of blown head gaskets. My experience: every time when you fix (or have it fixed) a problem, two new turn up.

    I have received invaluable help from the guys here at the boards over time and it did save tons of money, but, at first instinct the experts here leave me puzzled from time to time. "Simply drop the engine ..." or "It's an easy fix, simply remove the intake manifold ..." are an invalid start of a sentence to any normal person (slight exaggeration with a wink Moist, Ranger, Sub, and Bas.!) Especially when you buy the car in the open market and not from someone you can actually trust, you might get a polished shell with a foul core. 3 years ago I was irritated by a 98/99 Cadillac and a Corolla being offered at the same price but not any more!

    My advice (as an interested amateur) is: stay far away from any Northstar if you don't have indefinite time and money and haven't been working on this particular engine for a century.
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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    Quote Originally Posted by c_d View Post
    I'd say look outside - or stay with what you have, are familiar, and feel comfortable with. I had a polished 99 Seville and nothing but (mechanical) trouble with it. 70% of it related to the North-/Deathstar engine and rest just normal wear and tear. Fault was mine, I did not know at that point in time that those cars may have serious issues but I found out quickly. Since January, I am also an involuntary care taker of a 04 Deville that, despite of being in almost mint interior and exterior condition, is more shine than substance as well. What started out as a list of small annoyances quickly matured into a list of costly problems - all with the Damocles sword of blown head gaskets. My experience: every time when you fix (or have it fixed) a problem, two new turn up.

    I have received invaluable help from the guys here at the boards over time and it did save tons of money, but, at first instinct the experts here leave me puzzled from time to time. "Simply drop the engine ..." or "It's an easy fix, simply remove the intake manifold ..." are an invalid start of a sentence to any normal person (slight exaggeration with a wink Moist, Ranger, Sub, and Bas.!) Especially when you buy the car in the open market and not from someone you can actually trust, you might get a polished shell with a foul core. 3 years ago I was irritated by a 98/99 Cadillac and a Corolla being offered at the same price but not any more!

    My advice (as an interested amateur) is: stay far away from any Northstar if you don't have indefinite time and money and haven't been working on this particular engine for a century.
    I am currently out of transportation right now. I sold my 87 Deville 4.1 at 87k Miles due
    to blow headgasket. Man, i have a history of Cadillac ownership. I really miss the 4.5
    that my 88 Deville had W/ 120k Miles and never had any issues with it.
    Honestly, i loved my 87 and hated to see it go but i was never happy with lack of performance
    from the horrible HT4100 motor. Now if it come push and shove, i would mind a 88 or a 91
    both were very reliable and easier to maintain compare to the stories i heard about Northstar.

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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    Northstar - I would go with a 2000+

    4.9 -

    4.1 -

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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    Northstar - I would go with a 2000+

    4.9 -

    4.1 -
    I agree Ranger with the 4.9 I love the 91-93 Devilles.
    I still have a soft spot for the 4.5 88 that was by baby i must add. lol
    I still have a video on youtube " 1988 Cadillac Sedan Deville * Truly Missed *
    also a video driving my 87 Deville on there too. Check it out if interested!

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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoistCabbage View Post
    Cimarrons are pretty cheap to maintain.

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    YOU ARE A BAD - BAD - MAN -

    besides - Cimarron - is a COOKING SPICE - not a Cadillac -

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojostar25 View Post
    I figure , i would have to past that Northstar up and go back to the 4.9 at least.
    Now if i was financial stable to maintain the life of a Northstar then i would take that chance.
    I figure since i owned two 91's before. Why not give the 94-95 the chance.
    Something with a different feel and style, of course.

    What are some of the special features the 94-95 Deville have ?!
    Do u think they ride better then the 86-91 Sedan Deville that i have owned.
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    I had a 95 Deville - LOADED -
    with every option Cadillac offered - except the heated windshield -

    one of the BEST - if the THE BEST cars I ever owned -
    it is also the car I kept longer than any other car I ever owned -

    at 176K miles - it gave it's life to save mine -
    I was "T-BONED" - on the drivers side - by a drunk - going 60+ MPH -
    car was totaled - with the exception of a couple scratches from broken glass -
    I was uninjured -

    in that 176K miles - other than "normal maintenance" -
    I replaced the trans at 136K - and replaced fuel injectors at 145K -

    Do u think they ride better then the 86-91 Sedan Deville
    YES - feels like a MUCH bigger car -

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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    Quote Originally Posted by basscatt View Post
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    YOU ARE A BAD - BAD - MAN -

    besides - Cimarron - is a COOKING SPICE - not a Cadillac -

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    I had a 95 Deville - LOADED -
    with every option Cadillac offered - except the heated windshield -

    one of the BEST - if the THE BEST cars I ever owned -
    it is also the car I kept longer than any other car I ever owned -

    at 176K miles - it gave it's life to save mine -
    I was "T-BONED" - on the drivers side - by a drunk - going 60+ MPH -
    car was totaled - with the exception of a couple scratches from broken glass -
    I was uninjured -

    in that 176K miles - other than "normal maintenance" -
    I replaced the trans at 136K - and replaced fuel injectors at 145K -

    Do u think they ride better then the 86-91 Sedan Deville
    YES - feels like a MUCH bigger car -
    Oh, No....Glad you're okay now!
    Thanks to the bubble body Deville taking the final ride for ya.
    I just like happen to like the front end of the 97-99 a little better.
    but i guess anything is better then a Northstar, right ?!
    I heard stories how smooth and powerful that motor is. Too bad i can't find out right now!
    Not a risk i can afford. lol

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    Re: Cadillac a wise decision ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jojostar25 View Post
    Oh, No....Glad you're okay now!
    Thanks to the bubble body Deville taking the final ride for ya.
    I just like happen to like the front end of the 97-99 a little better.
    but i guess anything is better then a Northstar, right ?!
    I heard stories how smooth and powerful that motor is. Too bad i can't find out right now!
    Not a risk i can afford. lol
    I'm not advising you do what I do, as Northstars can be very expensive.

    HOWEVER, if, down the road, you find a low miles, well maintained Northstar Cadillac, and you have funds to support it accordingly, I'd say why not. They are very nice cars, the Northstar is an awesome engine, and if you take care of them, they definitely return the favor.
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