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    1999 concours HG decision.

    Alright, the more I analyze the issue (posted in some of my few threads) the more I feel this is a HG failure.
    I'm taking the liberty to post this as a new thread so people could jump in on what I think is the main issue.

    The smoke even though it doesn't seem to smell like coolant, it does have a sweet idea to it and it does seem like it's closer to STEAM!

    Now what? I have 314+ km or 194+ miles. The AC compressor needs to be replaced and it seems to me that the rear suspension isn't pumping back up to level when the car is fully loaded. The antenna is not retracting and I do seem to have a small coolant/oil leak.

    I have rebuilt the alternator, cleaned the injectors, changed the transmission fluid recently and the transmission shifts very nicely, I have lots left on the tires and the car seems in good shape. I have not paid much for the car, since a friend pretty much GAVE it to me. He has it from his grandpa who bought it new (and to all accounts drove it like a grandpa.) The car was driven most of its miles in a highway/rural setting.

    I need some advice. What do I do now? Try to fix it or get rid if it? Should I expect the engine+transmission to last me longer if I do fix the HG? I know these engines cannot be "rebuilt" in the full sense of the word because the cylinders are somehow cast inside the engine.

    How much would it cost me and does anybody know anyone doing a great job on this HG issue up here in BC or Washington, Oregon or Idaho? From what I read in the forum Northstar Performance seems like the best solution. Jake is over 2000km away, though. Please chime in.

    Thank you.

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    Re: 1999 concours HG decision.

    Talk to Carroll Custom Cadillac. Not far from you. Either up in Vendors or down in Clubs. Tim can do the whole car.

    If the rest of the car is in excellent to mint condition it's well worth repairing the engine - it will then faithfully go another 200,000 miles.

    The cylinders don't wear like other engines, so forget that aspect. If a cylinder or the block is cracked, you replace the entire block.

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    Re: 1999 concours HG decision.

    194k+ highway miles in wintery Canada? Needs struts and AC work? Like mentioned, make damn sure the rest of the car is worth it (that'll be subjective to a degree - I can tell you right now that I'm betting I'd bail on it given that info). That's a lot of miles and years on a Canadian car, and you don't have anything into it considering it was free - so you aren't financially locked into it. There's still A LOT to go wrong outside of a refreshed engine.

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    Re: 1999 concours HG decision.

    I agree with Drew.

    A 13 year old car that's been driven in the snow and salt for 194K miles... your going to put more money and time in it than it will ever be worth... dump it.

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    I only brought the car in Canada 2.5 years ago. This is an Idaho vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsdeville
    There's still A LOT to go wrong outside of a refreshed engine.
    What should I expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsdeville
    Needs struts and AC work?
    I was referring to the self leveling rear suspension system.

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    Re: 1999 concours HG decision.

    ............how about the entire rear subframe and attachment pads ???

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    I wouldn't know what that is and what to look for. What should I inspect?

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    Re: 1999 concours HG decision.

    Look for rust and rot.

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    Underneath the car? Will check.

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    Re: 1999 concours HG decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn Delwood View Post
    What should I expect?
    The drivetrain is just a small part of overall vehicle maintenance. Repairing the engine might extend the life of THE ENGINE, but the entire chassis and the rest of the vehicle still has 194k on it...

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    I know that. Obviously the car is a consumable item and the entire thing gets lots of friction. Out of all that friction the drivetrain gets the most of it though. I was thinking there would be more specifics.

    My idea was that since I didn't put much in this since I have it, I could just put a few thousand now and still have it for a few good years. I do most of the accessible work myself so if "easier" things come up later, I might tackle them then.
    I still haven't made a decision yet.

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    Re: 1999 concours HG decision.

    The bodies of these cars are pretty tough as long as they don't get too rusty. There is one guy on the forum who has over 500k on his '98 Deville.

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    Re: 1999 concours HG decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn Delwood View Post
    I know that. Obviously the car is a consumable item and the entire thing gets lots of friction. Out of all that friction the drivetrain gets the most of it though. I was thinking there would be more specifics.

    My idea was that since I didn't put much in this since I have it, I could just put a few thousand now and still have it for a few good years. I do most of the accessible work myself so if "easier" things come up later, I might tackle them then.
    I still haven't made a decision yet.
    I think you just answered your question.

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