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1985-1992 Fleetwood, 1993 Sixty Special, All FWD Forum Discussion, Still receiving PMs and e-mails asking the difference between de Villes & 60 Specials in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; I am still getting private messages & e-mails asking for "what makes a Sixty Special....'special' and/or what do they have ...
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    Still receiving PMs and e-mails asking the difference between de Villes & 60 Specials

    I am still getting private messages & e-mails asking for "what makes a Sixty Special....'special' and/or what do they have that deVilles don't, so for one final time, hopefully with the PROPER title I used this time, it can be searchable in the future.

    The following items were optional at extra cost on the deVille; and were standard equipment on the Sixty Special:-

    Power Trunk Lid Pull Down - Trunk Mat - Trunk Convenience Net
    Driver & Passenger Illuminated Visor Vanity Mirrors and Automatic Dimming
    Exterior Driver's Mirror and Interior Rear View Mirror.
    Remote Fuel Door lock/Release
    Digital Dash - Trumpet Horn - Illuminated Entry System
    Full Length Padded Vinyl Roof - Traction Control -
    Buyer's Choice of Wire Wheel Discs -OR- Cast Aluminum Lacy Wheels.

    The following items were EXCLUSIVE to the Sixty Special, and were NOT AVAILABLE on the deVille:-

    Electroluminescent "C" Pillar Wreath & Crest
    Dual Illuminated Rear Seat Visor Vanity Mirrors (Deleted when MoonRoof was ordered)
    Fender Skirts
    Genuine American Walnut Wood Interior Trim
    Rear Seat Individual Reading Lamps with Individual on/off Switchs
    Unique Sew-Style Cloth Seats in "Esteem" Fabric
    Unique Sew-Style Leather Seats (when optional leather was ordered).
    Unique Sixty Special Specific Wheel Style

    The Following Options were offered on the Sixty Special, BUT were NOT available on the deVille:-

    Driver "Memory" Seat, with two setting positions, plus "EXIT" function.
    Driver & Passenger Power Seat Recliners
    ULTRA Feature Model:-
    Includes the above two items, plus:-
    Power Seatback Side Bolsters; Triple Element Power Lumbar Supports;
    Power Thigh Supports; Power Adjustable Headrests; Heated Front
    Seat Cushions & Seatbacks; Rear Seat Armrest has Dual Cupholders;
    ITAL DESIGN of TURIN, ITALY Designed seats in ULTRA Soft Leather;
    Double Hand Stitched "French" Seams.
    (This option {ULTRA} was $3,500.00). 688 were made.

    The Sixty-Special had a MSRLP that was $4,240.00 more than a Sedan deVille, however when the above items in the first group were added to the deVille, then then price difference dropped to $2,072.00 more for the Sixty Special. Their dimensions were identical, with the Sixty Special weighing 44 pounds more. They shared the same interior & exterior colors.

    5,292 Sixty Specials were produced, of which 688 had the ULTRA Feature Package.

    How the Sixty Specials Were built:-
    250 in Platinum (Includes 55 Ultra)
    110 in Light Sapphire Blue (Includes 13 Ultra)
    707 in Black Sapphire (Includes 198 Ultra)
    849 in Cotillion White (Includes 110 Ultra)
    578 in Sable Black (Includes 100 Ultra)
    228 in Carmine Red (Includes 43 Ultra)
    445 in Dark Cherry (Includes 78 Ultra)
    226 in Academy Gray (Includes 43 Ultra)
    310 in Sapphire Blue Firemist (Includes 68 Ultra)
    518 in Slate Green (Includes 56 Ultra)
    477 in Light Beige (No Ultra)
    326 in Taupe (Includes 5 Ultra)
    059 in Dark Plum (Includes 4 Ultra)
    206 in Slate Bronze (Includes 2 Ultra) (Only New Color for 1993)
    003 in Mary Kay Pink (Mountain Laurel) (All 3 were ULTRA).

    4604 Sixty Specials plus 688 Sixty Special ULTRA = 5,292 Grand Total !
    I have option installation as well. PM me if desired. (Or) e-mail:-
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    Re: Still receiving PMs and e-mails asking the difference between de Villes & 60 Specials

    But..... what about my Fleetwood... Just kidding!

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    Re: Still receiving PMs and e-mails asking the difference between de Villes & 60 Specials

    What about it ? I do have the color breakouts on it as well the Coupe, as well the Sixty Special Edition '92 Fleetwood.

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    Re: Still receiving PMs and e-mails asking the difference between de Villes & 60 Specials

    What about it ? I do have the color breakouts on it as well the Coupe, as well the Sixty Special Edition '92 Fleetwood - and likewise the 1991 & 1990 & 1989 as well. Coupes, Sedans and Sedans with 60 Special Pkg.

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    Re: Still receiving PMs and e-mails asking the difference between de Villes & 60 Specials

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy
    What about it ? I do have the color breakouts on it as well the Coupe, as well the Sixty Special Edition '92 Fleetwood - and likewise the 1991 & 1990 & 1989 as well. Coupes, Sedans and Sedans with 60 Special Pkg.
    Well if you aren't sick of these numbers yet, I'll ask. I remember last year you gave me a breakdown for my car but I lost it! From what I recall I think you said there were something like 115,000 C bodies made for 1991? 20,000 were Fleetwoods, most the others were Devilles (1 in 10 were Fleetwoods)) I can't remember about the 60 spec, and they were even more rare than the Fleet. but I THINK you said there were around 2,000 Fleets with my color? Obviously though, it would be impossible to know exactly how many were made like mine (for example) with regard to the EXACT same options. I know the dealership ordered the optional "Lace" alum. rims for mine but probably half of the others like mine had the standard 5 star spoke. Just like it would probably be impossible for us to know how many Fleetwoods my color/year had the optional Astro roof. Right?

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    Question Re: Still receiving PMs and e-mails asking the difference between de Villes & 60 Specials

    Sandy / Would it be possible to obtain from you the color breakouts for the '89, '90, '91, and '92 Fleetwood coupes?

    Thanks / Pete B.

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    1991 Fleetwoods:-

    The 1st # is for the Sixty Special; the 2nd # is for Fleetwood 4-Dr & the 3rd # is for the Fleetwood Coupe. Got it?

    Platinum Silver >>>>> 97 / 802 / 23
    Black Sapphire >>>>> 309 / 1,699 / 97
    Light Sapphire Blue >>>>> 42 / 495 / 45
    Cotillion White >>>>> 213 / 2,862 /236
    Sable Black >>>>> 161 / 1,168 / 72
    Cameo Ivory >>>>> 0 / 3 / 1
    Carmine Red >>>>> 51 / 608 / 94
    Royal Maroon >>>>> 103 723 / 56
    Sapphire Blue Firemist >>>>> 98 / 748 / 43
    Antelope Firemist >>>>> 0 / 2,270 / 140
    Slate Gray >>>>> 10 / 109 / 2
    Light Auburn >>>>> 0 / 101 / 4
    Dark Auburn >>>>> 0 / 193 / 23
    Medium Slate Blue-Gray >>>>> 70 / 604 /38
    Dark Slate Gray >>>>> 84 / 573 / 20
    Mary Kay Pink >>>>> 15 / 1 / 0

    Total Sixty Special = 1,253
    Total Fleetwood Sedan = 12,979
    Total Fleetwood Coupe = 894

    Grand Total = 15,126

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    Re: Still receiving PMs and e-mails asking the difference between de Villes & 60 Specials

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy
    1991 Fleetwoods:-

    Antelope Firemist >>>>> 0 / 2,270 / 140
    Supercool! Thanks, and I know where one of the 140 Antelope coupes is because I talked to the lady who owns it. I didn't think it was that rare. It certainly didn't look as big as mine but I think they were a shorter wheelbase for the coupe.

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    1989 Fleetwoods:-

    1st # is the Sixty Special; 2nd # is the Fleetwood 4-Dr. & 3rd # is the Fleetwood Coupe .......

    Platinum Silver >>>>> 189 / 1729 / 209
    Pearl Grey >>>>> 13 / 379 / 36
    Light Sapphire Blue >>>>> 52 / 1115 / 150
    Black Sapphire >>>>> 519 / 3290 / 363
    Cotillion White >>>>> 318 / 4982 / 904
    Sable Black >>>>> 293 / 2170 / 416
    Cameo Ivory >>>>> 0 / 1 / 0
    Dark Antelope >>>>> 0 / 392 / 39
    Carmine Red >>>>> 74 / 1302 / 497
    Royal Maroon >>>>> 167 / 1734 / 253
    Rosewood >>>>> 3 / 1111 / 139
    Antelope >>>>> 0 / 360 / 58
    Academy Gray >>>>> 175 / 1882 /190
    Sapphire Blue Firemist >>>>> 201 / 1958 / 249
    Antelope Firemist >>>>> 0 / 4235 / 605
    Mary Kay Pink >>>>> 3 / 1 / 0

    02,007 Sixty Special
    26,641 Fleetwood 4-Door
    04,108 Fleetwood Coupe
    32,756 Grand Total

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    1990 Fleetwoods:-

    1st # is 60 Special; 2nd # is Fleetwood 4-Dr. & 3rd # is Fleetwood Coupe...

    Platinum Silver >>>>> 133 / 1317 / 91
    Light Sapphire Blue >>>>> 67 / 869 /95
    Black Sapphire >>>>> 421 / 2751 217
    Cotillion White >>>>> 344 / 4573 / 535
    Sable Black >>>>> 240 / 2046 / 263
    Cameo Ivory >>>>> 0 / 8 / 0
    Carmine Red >>>>> 85 / 1098 /243
    Royal Maroon >>>>> 129 / 1414 / 125
    Sapphire Blue Firemist >>>>> 139 / 1453 / 155
    Antelope Firemist >>>>> 0 / 3858 / 416
    Slate Gray >>>>> 26 / 323 / 17
    Light Auburn >>>>> 0 / 411 / 56
    Dark Auburn >>>>> 0 / 578 / 58
    Medium Slate Blue-Gray >>>>> 109 / 1131 / 87
    Dark Slate Gray >>>>> 129 / 1057 / 80
    Mary Kay Pink >>>>> 2 / 2 / 0

    01,824 Sixty Special
    22,889 Fleetwood 4-Door
    02,438 Fleetwood Coupe
    27,151 Grand Total

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    1993 Sixty Specials and Sixty Special ULTRA are in POST # 1 above. There was one ( 1 ) 1993 Sixty Special Coupe made. It was made in Dark Cherry. You bet I'm looking for it & will pay a finder's fee of $300.00 if I buy it.
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    1992 Fleetwoods:-

    1st # is Sixty Special; 2nd # is Fleetwood 4-Dr. & 3rd # is Fleetwood Coupe.

    Platinum Silver >>>>> 51 / 425 / 21
    Light Sapphire Blue >>>>> 17 / 212 / 15
    Black Sapphire >>>>> 182 / 1062 / 41
    Cotillion White >>>>> 138 / 1525 / 107
    Sable Black >>>>> 134 / 825 / 40
    Carmine Red >>>>> 41 / 402 / 40
    Royal Maroon >>>>> 45 / 359 / 16
    Academy Gray >>>>> 51 / 397 / 15
    Sapphire Blue Firemist >>>>> 62 / 473 / 26
    Slate Green >>>>> 46 / 569 / 26
    Light Beige >>>>> 9 / 860 / 53
    Taupe >>>>> 7 / 565 / 25
    Autumn Brown >>>>> 0 / 126 / 5
    Dark Plum >>>>> 23 / 341 / 13
    Mary Kay Pink >>>>> 9 / 0 / 0

    0,815 Sixty Special
    8,141 Fleetwood 4-Door
    0,443 Fleetwood Coupe
    9,399 Grand Total

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    Thank You, Sandy ! That's Terrific !!

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    Sandy / Thanks a million for all the Fleetwood color breakout info. You must spend a hell of a lot of time compiling this data, and I think it's great that you're so generous with it.

    / Pete B.

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    I have a friend in the right place, at Cadillac. It used to be much easier to get (1985-1999) than it has been 2000-2003 ! Getting tougher.

    I enjoy sharing it with those who would enjoy it. I wanted the same info from Lincoln, for my 2003 Town Car, and they'd only give me the # made of MY color, so I am not able to see where it fits in the scope of things. I begged & pleaded, but they will not. Obviously they think I am going to stand on the corner and attempt to sell the 2003 color installation listing to the shoppers entering the local paint store, or perhaps the town's shoe store! Annoying as________ !!

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    Re: Still receiving PMs and e-mails asking the difference between de Villes & 60 Specials

    I've never read an entire sticky...until now!

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