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10-19-08, 07:14 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac Sls | | | | | 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems hello, i am new to the site and i am a new owner of my first cadillac  .
i have had it for roughly 2 months and everything was fine until recently.
Car : 2003 Cadillac dts
Problems: there were/are times i would park my car then later put it in drive to leave and the car would shut off.car would start back up like nothing happened.numerous times i have been at a red light and the car would just shut off and start back up with no problem.recently i was leaving work when my car would not start.when i turned the key all i heard was clicking noises throughout the entire car.after letting it sit for fives minutes the car finally started.tonight i went to get food and the car cut off in the drive-thru   .i put it in park and turned the key, it started but it strained to start (if that makes any sense).the car still runs good besides the random points where it has a mind of it's own and decides it wants to cut off.also for the past 2 to 3 weeks i have been seeing a message in the dash that says "Service Theft System" and now i hear a very faint knocking sound when the car is idle.
Pulled Codes: DDM u1301, DDM u1713
DIM b1983
IPC u1016
IPM b1652
MSM u1000
PCM p0385 (current)
RIM u1255
VTD b1327
TTM u1016
b1581, b1591
i have an appointment with the cadillac dealer monday morning.i came to these forums to get feedback or any suggestions before i drop my car off to them.any help and tips are greatly appreciated. | 
10-19-08, 11:03 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): White Diamond '03 DHS | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodstock Ill. Age: 61 | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems P0385 - Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor B Circuit
Common problem on the 2000 - early '03's. Do a search for CKP sensor, You need to change them both. | 
10-19-08, 11:06 AM
|  | Zeeee-yaaaa Cadillac(s): 07 STS 1SG, 03 STS, 74 Eldo, 98 Z28, PAST: 97 ETC | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cheswick, PA Age: 23 | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems rangers dead on
you need to replace the CKPs
common problem | 
10-19-08, 11:24 AM
|  | If it won't run, chrome it..... Cadillac(s): 2002 Cadillac F55 STS/53000mi., 2004 Ford F150 Super cab 4x4 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland upper Eastern Shore Age: 69 | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems Search in here, Seville, and Northstar Performance for threads concerning stalling, coast-down stall, DTC P0300, P0385/6, P0335/6.
New CKP's (CranKshaft Position sensor) are: one gray, one black, made in Japan, not Mexico (siemens). Try Luke in Parts at Lindsay Cadillac, M-F, 9-5 EDT -----------> over there, or www.rockauto.com.
You might need a few of the plastic retainers which hold the lower splash shield - they tend to break - pull the center button out 1/4" and wiggle the retainer out. The CKP's are retained with 10mm bolts and can be a pain to remove: there isn't much room. | 
10-19-08, 06:15 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac Sls | | | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Sls System Problems thank you all for the responses.also i gave the wrong model.it is an SLS not Dts as i previously stated.  .besides the ckp, do any of the other codes pose a serious problem or something i should look into ? | 
10-19-08, 08:58 PM
|  | If it won't run, chrome it..... Cadillac(s): 2002 Cadillac F55 STS/53000mi., 2004 Ford F150 Super cab 4x4 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland upper Eastern Shore Age: 69 | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems I just read your original post (OP) again, and if you are going to have the dealer do the CKP's, I would hope the work is under warranty because the dealer will charge a non-warranty about $350 - $450 to do the job.
All of the U codes are communications and voltage hiccups and can generally be ignored unless one particular U code keeps coming back or stays Current.
There are several recent (many, many older) posts which give links to DTC (codes) translation. Search these recent threads and also in Northstar Performance. | 
10-20-08, 12:56 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 2003 Cadillac Sls | | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems thanks for all the help and info.both ckp's were changed this morning  also found out i have a cracked motor mount.was informed that was also a common problem with these cars.now i will have that fixed.besides that the dealer told me nothing else was wrong with the car (nothing else the computer could find) 
just pulled the codes to see if anything would pop up and now there is a new code DDM b1715 (current).i have search all over these forums and have found nothing about this code.does anyone have knowledge on it ? this is a good forum, thanks for all the help! | 
10-20-08, 01:43 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): 1989 STS / 2001 DTS / 2002 DTS | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upstate NY | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems All of the OBDII codes are listed here but I don't see a B1715. If I had to guess, based on the codes around it I would say it has something to do with a power mirror. http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/dtcobd2m.html#man
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10-20-08, 03:43 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): White Diamond '03 DHS | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodstock Ill. Age: 61 | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems | 
10-20-08, 04:04 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): 1989 STS / 2001 DTS / 2002 DTS | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upstate NY | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems Hey, you're right.
C1715 - Right Front Damper Actuator Short Circuit to Battery
I didn't look at that. But he did say B not C | 
10-21-08, 11:27 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): White Diamond '03 DHS | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodstock Ill. Age: 61 | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems Yeah, I tend to disregard the prefix. I've seen so many posted wrong. If I don't find it in one section, then I try another and usually find it there. | 
10-24-08, 03:38 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2003 DeVille DTS - Black inside and out | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 45 | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems So how do you tell if a motor mount is cracked? | 
10-24-08, 04:05 PM
| | my name is Tiffany Cadillac(s): 05 CTS-V | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San 'tone, TX | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems so do we need to be in the seville forum or deville forum? | 
10-24-08, 05:02 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): 1989 STS / 2001 DTS / 2002 DTS | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upstate NY | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems Easy, if it's been more than 20k miles since you replaced it, it's cracked or completely ripped from the chassis like mine was at 24k.
Seriously this is really a regular maintenance part. just do it like every 30k and you'll be all set. Quote:
Originally Posted by skippydts So how do you tell if a motor mount is cracked? | | 
10-25-08, 08:22 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic | | | | | Re: 2003 Cadillac Dts System Problems Quote:
Originally Posted by codewize Easy, if it's been more than 20k miles since you replaced it, it's cracked or completely ripped from the chassis like mine was at 24k.
Seriously this is really a regular maintenance part. just do it like every 30k and you'll be all set. |
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