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Old 04-19-08, 02:27 AM
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I have a 1986 cadillac deville sedan 4.1
I having a problem with my deville . I tried to start it after driving and it wouldn't start. I jumped it and I know the charging system needs to be upgraded I need a bigger battery and a ho alternator. Aftwr I gotit started the service now light came out and stayed on till I turned it off then turned it back on then the light was off. So after it sat for 6 hours it started with no problem the after 20 minutes the service soon light came on. I checked my manual and it said that I needed to replace my ecm. So anyone have any issue like this.
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Re: sevice soon/service now

Pull codes and find out what is tripping the Service light. How do you know you need a bigger alternator/battery? And if its running I would doubt your ECM is cooked - there is another problem somewhere.
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Re: sevice soon/service now

The reason I said I need a bigger battery and alternator is I have a aftermaket system in my car and and it was going ok for a while then I had to jump the battery time after time and usally when I'm tryin to start it sevice electric sys would light and no charge. If I was to drive without the stereo on I wouldn't have the lights come on.
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The reason I said I need a bigger battery and alternator is I have a aftermaket system in my car and and it was going ok for a while then I had to jump the battery time after time and usally when I'm tryin to start it sevice electric sys would light and no charge. If I was to drive without the stereo on I wouldn't have the lights come on.
I drove the car after it sat for 8.5 hours it started no problem and this time I drove for 30 minutes I had the radio on but at a moderate level and no service lights came on I'm thinking its the alt/battery going to autzone to get tested then look at my starter and battery connections
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Re: sevice soon/service now

On board computers in cars tend to get a little freaky when the battery goes dead, or partially dead. I had to get a new battery last week. I checked the codes and had a bunch of strange ones that have not appeared again.

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Re: sevice soon/service now

I went to autozine and I got a new battery 800 cca 1000 and I checked my battery ground connection some weren't loose but not very tight I drove it after putting the battery no peoblems. So I'm gonna change out the alt due that I was told if your headlights blink when the car is idle or power windows goinh up when the car is off its either loose connections or the alt. Ill keep you all posted thanks
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Re: sevice soon/service now

So the update is I check the power grounds to see if their lose no problems added a new battery no problem my service soon/now lights doesn't come on. I added my amplifer for my subwoofers . Lets say for a hour of continious usage at a moderate level the service soon light will come on. I will turn off the car let it sit for 10 seconds restart it and no problem . But usually after the light comes on I turn off my subwoofers. But I haven't got my ho alternator its still on order. Any suggestions
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Re: sevice soon/service now

I don't mean disrespect here, but I think you may want to keep the stereo turned down or use it less.

The engine is a 4.1 V8. It doesn't have a whole lot more power than many 4 cylinder engines. The engine and overall electrical system were not meant to generate the current required for a massive stereo, which weren't even heard of when this car was first designed and engineered almost 30 years ago. If I were you I'd take it easy on the stereo before you cause more serious damage to the car.

Drive it on the freeway for a half hour, at 65 mph, with NO electrical accessories running (including your stereo or headlights) at least twice a week. That will give the alternator a chance to charge the battery to where it needs to be to start your car.

Remember, the battery and alternator are constantly working back and forth - when you start the car, it pulls massive current from the battery to turn the starter, engine, and pump the fuel. After the engine starts and you release the ignition switch, the alternator begins to attempt to recharge the battery back to the level it was at before you started the car. After the battery is fully charged, all the electrical in the car runs off the alternator. Usually it's best when you drive on the freeway to get the battery charged back up.

When you introduce electrical accessories the engine and electrical system were not designed to handle, you decrease the alternator's ability to properly charge the battery and run the accessories by itself after the battery is charged. Hence, the alternator is always working hard and putting extra load on the engine. That might be where your check engine lights are comming from.

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Re: sevice soon/service now

Updated I put the alternator in and no problems at all
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Re: sevice soon/service now

If you still have trouble you might consider a second battery and alt
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