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Old 04-14-07, 07:54 PM
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Mom (88 years young) has a mint 90 Fleetwood that came up with multiple problems all at once. Her Cad has 103K on it, has always run fine. Went to the Cad dealer for plugs and wires and a Air Cond Compressor about 3 years and 3K ago ( yes mom drives to the store and amasses about 1000 miles a year. I usually go over a couple times a year and replace her battery because she doesn't go far enough or often enough to keep it up.

Well a couple days ago she was at the market and her "airconditioning" wouldn't go off and then it wouldn't start. She was able to get it cranked and got home and siad her "airconditioning" still wouldn't go off. She checke dit later and said it was off and to come and see what was wrong.

I got there and naturally the battery was dead ( that's why the fan motor stopped). I put a new battery in it and fired it up. The dash lights would flash and blink like it was trying to go crazy, but after a few minutes the dash lights settled down with a couple of exceptions. The blower motor still runs with the ignition off or on, the check engine light is on, and there is a "d" or a backwards "6" in the climate control window and the same letter or numeral shows up in the mileage display!!!!!

I have read here about the fan module and there suspect reliability, the the other two conditions happened at the same time

Got any ideas about a common cause for all three indications?

Thanks in advance

Joe Wilkerson
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Re: 90 Fleetwood Sedan

Lot of wierd stuff going on there. Are the battery cables clean and corrosion free?
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Re: 90 Fleetwood Sedan

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Lot of wierd stuff going on there. Are the battery cables clean and corrosion free?

Yes, all looked corrosion free, I will check between the two parts of the Positive terminal to make sure there is no junk hiding in there. Battery is fresh and I just installed it and the same conditions are present. The cables were tight on the old battery when I took it out.
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Re: 90 Fleetwood Sedan

I do not think that the low mileage VS the year has anything to do with it. I have a 1993 Sixty Special (Identical car to your Mom's) and I actually have less miles per year than your Mom has. At 14 years "old" - I have 9,845 miles and I disconnect my battery every year when she goes into storage (early October) and re-connect it in May, when she comes out. When I re-connect it, I put a battery charger on it for 1 hour on "trickle" and have had no problems. I have replaced the battery 3 times in the 14 years, so like every 4 & 1/2 years. I think that the switch for the automatic fan is at fault and the fact that the fan keeps running after the AC is shut off. I think that is the cause of the weird graphics in the display area.
I'd take it to a Caddy dealer and only talk about the constantly running fan. I have a hunch once that is fixed, the computer will re-set itself, and all wioll be good again.

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Re: 90 Fleetwood Sedan

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I do not think that the low mileage VS the year has anything to do with it. I have a 1993 Sixty Special (Identical car to your .................................................. ..................................... I think that is the cause of the weird graphics in the display area.
I'd take it to a Caddy dealer and only talk about the constantly running fan. I have a hunch once that is fixed, the computer will re-set itself, and all wioll be good again.

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Thank you for your reply!!! I was thinking that the computer had gone bonkers trying to deal with all the shock of dealing with being disconnected a bunch of times ( when i put the negative post in it makes and breaks several times as I screw it down)... Luckily I have an 89 fleetwood coupe that probably has the same fan module, I'll rob it this afternoon and see if that cures the problem. I was saying that she doesn't put many miles on it because my 89 has only 70K on it and it's almost ready for the bone yard. It just has deteriated from setting around some times for a year or more with out moving. Here in the west it doesn't get cold enough to worry about "storing" anything and an unused car seems to go down hill as fast or faster than one being used everyday. We should take the same precautions here as in the East to make sure we arn't killing our cars from nonuse

Thanks again

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Re: 90 Fleetwood Sedan

Joe, I've been waiting on and waiting on and waiting on a 1992 (Final Year) Fleetwood Coupe (Slate Green with Neutral leather) with every option made and 8,860 miles from the original owner. Seems tied up in an estate. Nice Sister to my 60 Special !

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Joe, I've been waiting on and waiting on and waiting on a 1992 (Final Year) Fleetwood Coupe (Slate Green with Neutral leather) with every option made and 8,860 miles from the original owner. Seems tied up in an estate. Nice Sister to my 60 Special !

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My 89 Fleetwood coupe is a sad story. My wife received the car from her uncle's estate in 1993 and the car was showroom with 11,000 miles. She drove it till 2000 and the car has 76K on the clock.

My wife was on her way to our cabin and the tread seperated on the right rear tire and scattered the skirt and associated plastic trim all over the freeway. I drove back and scooped up the parts(most intact) and the skirt had the tabs deformed when it was forced out by the rapidly exiting tread from the tire.

The car sat while I looked for a skirt which are hard to find in the yards here.
She was just using it to run to the store and she was rear ended ( the second nail in the coffin) and pushed the mid bumper in about 3-4 inches and made the trunk latch misalign an inch or so.

Then the car sat dormant till the end of 2006. I was in need of a vehicle, mine had expired and I needed a driver for awhile. I thought why not fire up the 89 cad and use it till I made arrangements to replace my truck. It only had 76 K on it, I could put it back on the road for a small expense(third mail in the coffin is coming).

I paid the back license and smogged it, had the wires and plugs along with rotor and stuff replaced. Put new tires on it and replaced the hood struts and off I went for a few days. My wife needed to take a trip for the week end of about 500 miles. The Cad made better mileage than her SUV, had new tires and a tune-up so she used it to visit her relatives.

On the return trip it started to heat up and she pressed (naturally)on till she got home. Yep, she drove it far enough hot to take out the head gasket. So although it still runs fine, it will suck all the water in the radiator and out the tail pipe in about 15 minutes....

So now I own a low mileage fleetwood coupe Parts car LOLOLOLOLO

too bad I let it set so long and did not check the radiator , it was full of junk from setting so long. Had I checked it and serviced it I would of had a car good for another 50,000 miles for the $1000 it took me to put it back on the road. alas..... it's wasn't the first mistake I ever made and won't be the last, but I sure liked that car , fleetwood coupes were my favorite of that era.

The pics of your "60" are beautifull hope you land the fleetwood coupe soon, that will be a great pair to own..

Thanks for your post

Joe

PS>>>>>>The aboslute best Cad I ever owned was a 64 coupe deville, the best riding handling and great performance. By todays standards probably not much of a car, but in 1964 it was God on 4 wheels
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Re: 90 Fleetwood Sedan

A retired friend owns a pristine, show car, 100 point princess 1964 Coupe deVille in black, original paint. Car has a greyish Blue leather interior and original hub caps. The entire car looks like it was 1st put on the road, last week. You should see the grille shine! The car is amazing. The owner is around age 79-81 and is in similiar condition to his Caddy.

What color is your 89 Flwd Cpe ?
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Re: 90 Fleetwood Sedan

Old car parts prices:
shocks: $18
coil: $45. Uses only one.
ignition module: $25
Fuel pump replacement: $120 or less.
alternator: $100 plus labor
Not much technology, nothing much to break.


Newer car parts prices:
shocks (struts): some are $600 each
coil: $75 X 3.
Ignition module: couple hundred probably
fuel pump replacement $400 to $500, mostly labor.
alternator: several hundred $$

I sure miss my 87 Fleecewood Brougham. I just sold my 97 SDV with 27k on it. I would like to buy a 92 Sedan de Ville with 4.9. While the newer Northstars are bullet proof, the early ones are suspect, in my mind. I always worried about a potential oil leak, a potential head gasket, etc. Never any problems, but lots of owners had those problems.

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Re: 90 Fleetwood Sedan

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A retired friend owns a pristine, show car, 100 point princess 1964 Coupe deVille in black, original paint. Car has a greyish Blue leather interior and original hub caps. The entire car looks like it was 1st put on the road, last week. You should see the grille shine! The car is amazing. The owner is around age 79-81 and is in similiar condition to his Caddy.

What color is your 89 Flwd Cpe ?
Its red on red and "was" Gorgeous, but pretty edgy now
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A retired friend owns a pristine, show car, 100 point princess 1964 Coupe deVille in black, original paint. Car has a greyish Blue leather interior and original hub caps. The entire car looks like it was 1st put on the road, last week. You should see the grille shine! The car is amazing. The owner is around age 79-81 and is in similiar condition to his Caddy.

What color is your 89 Flwd Cpe ?
Its red on red and "was" Gorgeous, but pretty edgy now
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