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"Cold" markings on the ATF dipstick ('97 DeVille)

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A) My understanding is that ATF levels in my '97 DeVille (and every other car with automatic I've ever owned) have to be checked with the engine at normal operating temps and while idling. But I noticed that there was a very prominent "COLD" range on the dipstick between the tip and the normal markings used to check the fluid levels. What is the purpose of this range? Can you indeed reliably check ATF levels with the engine temperatures relatively cool? If so, that would eliminate a lot of the risk for burnt knuckles when pulling the stick from one of these cramped Northstar engine setups. Or is this yet another example of mysterious GM part markings with no real functionality?

B) On a somewhat related topic, I've always wanted to know why you can't check ATF levels on a stone cold engine at a dead stop, even if only for the purpose of seeing whether you have a major problem that deserves a closer look. Assuming that the fluids drip down to the "sump" of a transmission overnight, why can't you check the level in the morning before starting and use some other marking way up the stick to see if there is **approximately** enough fluid in the car? I'm not talking about checking whether it's a half pint too low; I want to see if there is more or less enough fluid to get to work. What makes ATF fluid levels so much different than oil levels and the like?

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Re: "Cold" markings on the ATF dipstick ('97 DeVille)

A), Not sure on that one! I've never noticed the "cold" mark. I always check it when it is hot.

B) Since the trans does hold more than twice the amount of oil that the engine does, there's more to expand. That, and the oil does drain down, so you want to check the level when the oil is pumped up through it.
When the trans is cold, if the level shows up on the dipstick, It'd be safe to say that there's enough to run it.
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