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    What are they?

    Anyone know what I’ve got? They are 15” FWD wire wheels and fit on a 90 Seville. The center is approx 2 1/2" dia with a spinner or knock-off cap that is threaded onto a cast alum hub. The hub attaches to the wheel with setscrews. There is also an outer perimeter trim ring. I’ve lost 1 of the hubs as well as 2 of the caps and all 4 trim rings. Help I need replacement parts.
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    Re: What are they?

    Try to find the Dayton Wire Wheel website. Google brings it up immediately.

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    Re: What are they?

    Been there done that. They are not Daytons. They are similar to the cadillac 14" large hub spokes found on a lot of 80's and early 90's caddy's. I've heard of them refered to as "Vouge's". I've seen almost the same wheels on Fleetwoods except for the knock offs and outer trim ring that is evedent on FWD's.

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    Re: What are they?

    Well I found a potential supplier for the missing components for my spokes. Excalibur Wheel Accessories website show a “Mclean” 30 spoke bolt-on wheel in their catalog that looks very much like my set. They also list a full complement of accessories. Cool! Set of 4 knock off kits w/hardware cost about $140. Although this doesn’t answer the question, “WHAT ARE THEY?” Could they be swangers? They do stick out past the rim by at least 1”, I’ll have to messure.

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    Question Re: What are they?

    Well I’ve measured the wheels and the center inside dia is 3 3/16”. The number of outer spokes is 30 with 20 inner spokes at the rim. The distance the spokes protrude past the rim is 1 ½”. I read somewhere that the 1983 and 1984 Eldo’s came with the infamous 30 spoke wheels as an option. That Cragar manufactured these wheels for Cadillac. The double rim feature was a necessity for FWD applications and received an outer rim trim ring. I’ve tried but these wheels will not fit my 83 Eldorado. They do fit my 90 Seville. I doubt they are swangers or 84’s but could they be Cragar Stars? Did Cadillac offer them as an option in 1990? Are they original Caddy or aftermarket? Come on, I’m challenging all you Caddy buff’s out there to solve this mystery.

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    Re: What are they?

    oops, didnt read your last post before i replied...mybad

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    Re: What are they?

    I guess none of you caddy experts have seen this type of wheel on a 90's era FWD Cadillac.

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    Re: What are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by 83CADMAN View Post
    Are they original Caddy or aftermarket? Come on, I’m challenging all you Caddy buff’s out there to solve this mystery.
    Anyone?????
    I'm still in the dark about these wheels.

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    Re: What are they?

    Bump!

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    Re: What are they?

    RE-BUMP!!
    I'm starting to think that these spokes are extremly rare. Any one seen them before?
    Hard to know how to Insure/value.

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    Re: What are they?

    They aren't any optional Cadillac wheels and the only way they'd have a whole lot of value is if they either belong on some sort of other car or are a common add-on to one that are hard to find. Drive over to some wheel shops and ask them what they are. Someone might have seen them or sold them at some point.

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    Re: What are they?

    If they are not a G.M. option either for Caddy or Buick FWD's (not uni-lug wheels) then they must be aftermarket FWD Cragar Stars. They are excatly like what Cragar/Tru-spoke manufactured for FWD Cadillacs in the 1980's and use the same outer beauty trim ring. As far as checking around town...been done. Well what the hell, they look badass on my Seville.

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    Cool Re: What are they?

    The mystery wheels have finally been identified and authenticated.

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    “Congratulations, you have a very, very rare set of FWD Truespoke wire
    wheels. They are very hard to find and desirable.”
    Truespoke Wire Wheels – [truespoke.net]

    As listed in 1988 catalog
    TRUESPOKE Complete Packages / 17 Series
    Part Number: 17-5877# Cadillac Package 15x7; 115mm Bolt Circle; 5 ¾” offset
    (includes: Lug Nuts, Trim Ring, Valve Stem, Cap, Cadillac Medallion)
    Suggested Retail Price (in 1988): $342.73 ea. Weight: 37lbs.

    These Wheels were offered thru Cadillac dealerships as an option few people bought.
    The more commonly selected Wire Wheel Package option was the (27 Series), they look like the big hub “CLASIC” style, which by the way was offered with gold spokes.

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    Red face Re: What are they?

    Man I’m sure stuck with these wheels, literally, they’ve rusted to the brake rotors!!!

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    Thumbs up Re: What are they?

    Wow! I just discovered a product that’s been around awhile that’s definitely going to replace WD40 in my war bag. I used this new stuff on my rusted on wire wheel/lug problem. It was amazing! Within 15 min. from application the worse of the rusted wheels wiggled loose.

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